YTSEJAM Digest 2029
Today's Topics:
1) Re: wacky band names
by shields@onr.com (Jim Shields)
2)
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
3) tapestry
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
4) Yngwie, Yngwie, Quite Contringwie
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2028
by Stan <sstys@earthlink.net>
6) bootlegging
by <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
7) the names
by <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
8) THERION THELI
by Jean Francois Cloutier <ebe@videotron.ca>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2028
by acook@tiac.net (acook)
10) END OF YEAR POLL.
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
11) Re: The lurker awakens, with a hunger unsurpassed...
by "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
12) band names...
by "Richard A. Bond, Jr." <rickbond@concentric.net>
13) Guitar Heroes. (very low DTC)
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
14) New FAQ Update
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
15) DT relevancy... where????
by "JB (hokkkiieeessss)" <beamup@vt.edu>
16) DT members
by "JB (hokkkiieeessss)" <beamup@vt.edu>
17) Re: Guitar Heroes. (very low DTC)
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:47:31 -0600
From: shields@onr.com (Jim Shields)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: wacky band names
Message-ID: <v01530500aeb2a2088977@[206.104.9.27]>
My first band was ARSENIC. Then I had a band called LEGALLY INSANE,
changed name (and Drummer) to AUREUS, then changed name (and drummer) again
to Room 213. We finnaly have a good drummer (we have had him for a year
now, though)!
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:03:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: Yitz-see-jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.961115180228.18684C-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Hey, Kids.
Thought you Echolyn fans might want this.
m.
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:54:47 PST
From: finneus gauge <finneus-gauge@juno.com>
To: finneus-gauge@webcom.com
Subject: PHILLY SHOW!!!
Hi all,
Well, we've got a show at the MIDDLE EAST in PHILADELPHIA scheduled for
SATURDAY, DECEMBER 7, 1996!! finneus gauge will be the opening band and
should begin their set around 9:30 pm. I will send out (and post on the
web site) more details plus directions from I-95 North and South very
soon. Please stay tuned.
This will be the hometown debut of finneus gauge and we ask one and
all to join us for this event. Please call all your friends and bring
'em out to the show. We are all very excited about this and now it's
time to bear down and get organized for it!
Again, stay tuned as more detail will be on the way shortly!!
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:07:21 -0600
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: tapestry
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961115230721.006ec274@mail.inlink.com>
mike, man, theres nothing much else to say but
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAH!!!!!!!!! YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i'm more excited about this than precious things! hehe!
my money already went out this morning in fact :) i think i speak for
everyone when i say "i'll be right back, i gotta go change my shorts"
~Rip
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:24:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Yngwie, Yngwie, Quite Contringwie
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.961115152318.76657E-100000@homer30.u.washington.edu>
> From: ORBITMIS@aol.com
> Subject: G3
>
> So, how come we can have an educated discussion about these three
> artists, but whenever anyone mentions Yngwie Malmsteen, people go
> ballistic? Is it his attitude?
One of the adjectives in your first sentence describing the present
discussion is why Yngwie hasn't been included.
> Can't we discuss his playing without ignoring his ego?
You mean discuss his playing without ADDRESSING his ego?
> Would somebody who plays guitar (I don't) please write a quick Yngwie
> overview, on his playing, style, strengths & weaknesses?
Howabout I let him describe himself? Here, I'll address each of your
subjects, but I'll Yngwie provide some of his own answers. These are
direct quotes.
His playing - fast: "How does a classical pianist or violinist differ in
overall speed from what I do?"
His style - graceful: "Unlike a lot of other guitarists, I don't play
rubbish."
His strength - omniscience: "I know basically all the music theory there
is to know."
His weaknesses - envy, lust, wrath, pride, gluttony, and avarice. He's
immune to sloth, just listen to his albums.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:57:21 +0000
From: Stan <sstys@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2028
Message-ID: <328CBD11.2EE@earthlink.net>
ok folks, heres the deal i have an extra dt ticket for
birch hill that was supposed to be for a friend of mine who
decided to become an asshole on me and back out the day
after i ordered the tixs. if anyone needs a ticket, i will
be glad to let it go for the face value of 12.50. as i feel
it would suck to pass off the ticketcrapper charges of
almost 5 bucks a ticket to anyone. obviuosly it is of no use
to me since i have a ticket, and no-one sems to be into them
enough around here to go.
-- Stan Tyszka drums and bass SSTYS@EARTHLINK.NET STYS@HOTMAIL.COM (((THIS SPACE FOR RENT)))------------------------------
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 06:21:28 +2000 From: <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool" To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: bootlegging Message-ID: <199611150515.HAA16291@pepe.online.ee>
I bet you all can find it on the King Crimson website if you search hard enough.
Robert Fripp said something like this about bootlegging: there's something special about every concert. Now, if you try to can it, or tape it, for that matter, the aura just won't be there anymore. Ever wondered why the gig you just went to and what sounded so great sounds like shit when you see some clips on the TV or hear it on the radio? It's the aura thing. You can't capture the thought you're thinking in words in its entirety.
I agree with him exactly 50%. I leave the rest for my burning desire for bootlegs. Where're those Motley Crue, Faith No More, Dream Theater and Steve Vai bootlegs, I wonder? Some Cynic and Soundgarden wouldn't hurt either. :-)
raitz
Don't look at me-- I'm ugly in the morning
-- patton
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 06:58:20 +2000 From: <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool" To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: the names Message-ID: <199611150515.HAA16297@pepe.online.ee>
>wonder if Mike and Ayn Rand were related, but it was probably a pipe >dream of mine. Portnoy might be a common name in Russia.
The country where I come from is geographically and was until lately politically connected to the former Soviet Union, which many people have been referring to as Russia. I had a buttload of Russian friends, and although none of them, as far as I know, were named Portnoy, I know enough of Russian names as to claim Portnoy is a Russian name, or rather a Russian Jewish name, if you catch my drift. The infamous chessmaster Kortchnoy... You do know of him, don't you? And Derek... Most Armenian names end with an "ian". And take a look at the guy, too. There's no doubt. Gosh, the band is like "druzhba narodov", the friendship of nations, as praised in the Soviet time. I *love* it. :-)
raitz
Don't look at me-- I'm ugly in the morning
-- patton
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:27:57 -0500 From: Jean Francois Cloutier <ebe@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: THERION THELI Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19961116002757.00689f1c@pop.videotron.ca>
everybodies into gothic progressive doom metal band must listen to the new= =20 dream come true cd :THERION =A8THELI=A8 =20
this is a weird mixture of doom with lots keyboard and strings and choir!!!
this is hot stuff....man, these guys are crazy pavaroti and friends meet dream theater meet crematory .....greath!!!
anibodies have any comments.....
HAARP aka JF Cloutier
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:46:49 -0500 (EST) From: acook@tiac.net (acook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2028 Message-ID: <199611160046.TAA09378@zork.tiac.net>
> >> Don't get the wrong impression, I love all of them almost equally >> composition wise, but I USUALLY find Johnson takes the cake when it >> comes to pure guitar playing. > >Define "pure" guitar playing. >
Gladly,
By saying this I mean that in terms of straight-forward notes and rhythms, ie not making weird sounds or bending harmonics with whammy and whateve. I'd love to see Vai or Satch do an improv solo without their whammy bar, because people often occuse them of using it as a "crutch". Would they be able to play well without it? I think they have enough licks in their vocabulary to do a good job, but live Vai always seems to jump back to it. Also, Johnson is by far the superior at covering wide intervals and the entire fretboard in single lines. This is because most people visualize the fretboard patterns available closest to wherever they are playing, but Johnson jumps around aimlessly and always seems to hit the note he's going for. Check out Camel's Night Out for some brilliant improv in this style.
Adam Cook acook@tiac.net visit me at, http://www.tiac.net/users/com (hard hat construction area!)
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:19:54 -0500 (EST) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: Yitz-see-jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: END OF YEAR POLL. Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.961115201620.14758A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Hey, There Ytsefreaks.
Just reminding all of you who haven't voted yet:
VOTE, YOU PRICKS!
"but syrinx!@# what the hell are you talking about?"
i'm talking about my end of year poll@!
you e-mail me your 5 favorite cd's of the year!@@#!@!#!@
It's that simple!@ E-mail me, and on (or around) Janruary 1st, i will print out the results. I've gotten over 30 people in the poll, and i know there are HUNDREDS of you out there, just lurking.
ARE YOU WAITING FOR A GRAND INIVITAION?
"yes."
good. i'm inviting you.
e-mail me at syrinx@dreamt.org with your 5 favorite Cd's of 1996, and be part of the frenzy@&^@!*(&
A few things i must point out:
1) Spock's Beard DOES NOT COUNT, 'cause it came out in 1995.
2) Although Bernd will kill me, Superior DOES NOT COUNT because the initial run came out in 1995. I should know, i have it. :)
3) ANY AND ALL of Mike Bahr's 1995 releases do count.
any other questions? e-mail me!@!@!
____________________________________________ michael b. ostrich - musical consultant e-mail: syrinx@dreamt.org syrinx@wicked.stigmata.org syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu
"..and now you're trembling on a rocky ledge, staring down into a heartless sea. done with life on a razor's egde, nothing's what you thought it woule be.." - neil peart.
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 21:41:56 +0000 From: "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: The lurker awakens, with a hunger unsurpassed... Message-ID: <199611160447.VAA00772@cyberhighway.net>
> liked the softer side of DT. Do any of you have any suggestions as far > as a playlist, order of songs, etc., which may have worked for any of you in the past?
Moderate, and be subtle at first. The way my friend got his girlfriend away from country music and into prog rock was to hide it in the background. This way, you'll not realize consciously for awhile, but eventually, you may catch yourself tapping your foot to it. Later on, you'll pick up on the words, and eventually find yourself droning along with it. You'll end up liking it whether you like it or not. :)
He used the same trick to get me into DT, too. I was really surprised the other day when I was playing Wait for Sleep (the old folks at the care center love this one) on the piano, and Jen (Matt's gf) started singin along with it. Heheh, this's a cool and unfair trick indeed. :)
Anytime I've tried to straightforwardly tell people, "Check this out!" They seem to not like it as well. Holding a gun to their head and saying "Enjoy or die!" doesn't fare well either. Some people prefer death to listening to different styles of music....
Anyway, try this, you may kill me if it doesn't work...
Also, just got my Dregs of the Internet CD today. Al I can say is: ROCK! Get it! I haven't really heard anyhing on here that I don't like (just about, there is one song I heard that I didn't but don't know the name, the songer sounds like me probably and I hate my voice).
Disclaimer: All entries posted in this text are copyrighted by IbnzRG570 and are subject to applicable laws. Unauthorized reproduction of any entry contained within without written consent of the owner is strictly forbidden. "Rokz nadz, kikz butz, and hott chikz" are trademarks owned by IbnzRG570. :)
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:19:36 -0800 From: "Richard A. Bond, Jr." <rickbond@concentric.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: band names... Message-ID: <328D40D8.ED3@concentric.net>
> You think spelling Dream Theater, Dream Theatre is funny. When Jake E > Lee played there solo they wrote Badlands featuring Jack Eilee
This reminds me....I play drums and I used to be in a band called Blind Justice. We were playing at a sports bar out of our area, and when we got there, the sign said that tonight featured the Blind Jesters. :) Then, with all the noise, we told them the name, and they changed it to Blonde Jesters, so we spoke a little louder and had it corrected. :) Other bands were White Lightning (I was only 15, leave me alone), and Voodoo Child (cover trio).
Rick Bond
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 23:53:30 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Guitar Heroes. (very low DTC) Message-ID: <199611160653.XAA30916@nevis.u.arizona.edu>
Hi all, Since we've been on the topic of incredible guitarists lately (namely Satch, Vai, Johnson, and of course Petrucci), I was wondering what you all thought of Gary Hoey. I just went out and bought "Bug Alley" (his new CD) today and I just must say it kicks ass. I've always respected him and I'm wondering what you all think of his music.
Later,
Peace be with you and God bless.
~Vince
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 02:47:25 -0500 (EST) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>, Voices <voices@arastar.com> Subject: New FAQ Update Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9611160204.E27531-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
Hey, kids. I'm trying to make it a regular habit of updating the Dream Theater FAQ twice a month, so there is a new version out as of a few mintues ago. Besides a couple of cosmetic changes (I stole the background from Mesa Boogie, but it looks so damned cool!), there is actually new information! Thanks to Mark "Itchy" Bredius, I have included information about the samples in "The Mirror."
Please check out the FAQ, and let me know if there's anything that's wrong, anything that should be there but isn't, or anything that is there but shouldn't be.
HTML: http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html Text only: http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.txt Anonymous FTP: 132.198.8.4 /pub/dt/dtfaq.txt or 132.198.250.43 /pub/dt/dtfaq.txt Usenet: alt.music.dream-theater
There are also mirror sites in Florida, Oregon, Chile, and the Netherlands, if that helps you out. Please let me know what you think - this is *our* list! Thanks! -Chris
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary & Webmaster cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 04:37:53 -0500 From: "JB (hokkkiieeessss)" <beamup@vt.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT relevancy... where???? Message-ID: <199611160937.EAA11704@sable.cc.vt.edu>
On Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:40:34 -0800 (PST), vanyel@crl.com spewed forth the following :
>(That's the Cockney way of saying it :)) > >> Captain Horacio and the Hornblowers >> >Wow, cool, -someone's- been doing some quality reading. :) >This is a reference to the great Horatio Hornblower series of naval >adventure books by C.S. Forester, set during the Napoleonic Wars >(roughly 1800-1815 plus afterwards). They are widely regarded now as >the second-best series of historical novels of ther period, maybe >ever. The first-best? Why, the books I'm reading now. :)
of course this is relevant on the ytsejam, because everyone knows Mike Portnoy's great grandfather's uncle was a novelist at the time of C.S. Forester, though never read, due to the overwhelming popularity of Mr. Forester. notes from Virginia Tech the desk of Computer EngIneering Jason Brindel & VT a cappella beamup@vt.edu (JUXTAPOSITION) www.vt.edu:10021/B/beamup www.vt.edu:10021/org/juxtap ------------------------------------------------- If there's a pensive fear, a wasted year A man must learn to cope. If his obsession's real, suppression that he feels Must turn to hope -=Dream Theater=- -------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 05:25:33 -0500 From: "JB (hokkkiieeessss)" <beamup@vt.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT members Message-ID: <199611161025.FAA06269@sable.cc.vt.edu>
>> Is anyone in the band very religious??? I have all of DT's albums, >> and there seems to be many refrences about God, heaven and Christanity, but >> I could be mistaken. Please let me know if you have an answer. > > As far as I know: > James Labrie: ? > John Petrucci: Catholic > John Myung: Catholic > Mike Portnoy: Jewish > Kevin Moore: Catholic > Derek Sherinian: ?
I'm not sure about Kevin Moore.... In I&W it seemed somewhat like a possibility that he was holding to something, but starting in Awake, and ESPECIALLY now in his demo's, it seems as if he's holding Religion (esp. Christianity/Catholicism) in quite a bit of contempt...
Awake --------- "Never been much of a doubting Thomas, but nothing breaks like a broken promise, You tell me 'bout your two-more coming, but once is just enough for me"
Demos ---------- "In the first place get that book out of my face, man, he never tried to call me anyway. Now hanging out with prophets ain't no crime, but I never search for nothing I can't find. Jesus had his own life, I got mine. Just call me hollow"
"Heaven is empty you'll find out it's a wonderful story staring."
etc...
does anyone know if anything happened (besides his musical tastes changing- and thus leaving the band) to KM betweend I&W and Awake? There is a night/day difference in his outlook on everything between the two albums.... notes from Virginia Tech the desk of Computer EngIneering Jason Brindel & VT a cappella beamup@vt.edu (JUXTAPOSITION) www.vt.edu:10021/B/beamup www.vt.edu:10021/org/juxtap ------------------------------------------------- If there's a pensive fear, a wasted year A man must learn to cope. If his obsession's real, suppression that he feels Must turn to hope -=Dream Theater=- -------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 08:49:05 -0400 (AST) From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Guitar Heroes. (very low DTC) Message-ID: <199611161249.IAA05777@mail.caribe.net>
At 10:59 PM 11/15/96 -0800, you wrote: >Hi all, > Since we've been on the topic of incredible guitarists lately >(namely Satch, Vai, Johnson, and of course Petrucci), I was wondering what >you all thought of Gary Hoey. I just went out and bought "Bug Alley" (his >new CD) today and I just must say it kicks ass. I've always respected him >and I'm wondering what you all think of his music. > I used to own Animal Instincts ...i loved it ..it was very good... but i lend it to a friend of mine..and he lost it..hehe dammit.. i like him...hes like a cross between Satch and Marty Friedman (IMO)
We Can Learn From the past..but those days are gone.. We can hope for the future..but there may not be one... < DREAM THEATER: A CHANGE OF SEASONS> WOWOWOWWWWWW hoooo wowoW WOWWwwwwww hoooo -Devin Townsend WoWoW WoWoW WoWoW - Mike Portnoy Email: Calfaro@Caribe.net Calfaro@dreamt.org
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