YTSEJAM Digest 2030
Today's Topics:
1) Re: DT TIX!!!!
by "Jill M. Lentchner" <jmlentch@mailbox.syr.edu>
2) NEW FAQ IN ARCHIVES
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
3) Whammyland
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
4) Fates Warning's IGoD
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
5) Re: bootlegging
by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
6) re: Yngwie Malmsteen
by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
7) More on Yngwie
by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
8) Vicious Rumors (NDTC)
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
9) hippocrate
by <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
10) Myung
by "Susan Ostroske" <spatz13@msn.com>
11) Steve DiMadgio
by <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
12) myung's nationality
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
13) New Spock's bearD!@
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
14) Re: myung's nationality
by saveur <saveur@cais.cais.com>
15) tix, conciously unreal
by al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Dan Abosso)
16) Hi Hi Hi Hi Hi
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
17) Re:guitar heroes
by smilodon@data.net.mx (Raul Rodriguez)
18) Wacky Band Names
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 09:21:36 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jill M. Lentchner" <jmlentch@mailbox.syr.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: DT TIX!!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.961116091749.10028A-100000@gamera.syr.edu>
I don't know anything about another band but I would call if
anyone runs into tickets coming early or with anything wrong with them.
When I ordered my tickets,they refused to send them any more than
fourteen days in advance, I begged and pleaded and they said no, the only
thing I could do to get them earlier would be FedX them but they wouldn't
release them any earlier. I may have gotten wrong information but if
people run into tickets saying Dream Theatre or anything else wrong, I
would give our good friends at TM a call.
Quazel---------Jill
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 11:53:23 -0500 (EST)
From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: NEW FAQ IN ARCHIVES
Message-ID: <199611161653.LAA04595@wicked.stigmata.org>
Hi All ...
I'm almost all caught up :) More in a bit. Just wanted to let
everyone know the latest and greatest version of the FAQ is now in the
archives. You can get it by:
send mail to ytsejam-request@ax.com
with the subject:
asdf
and in the body of the message put:
get ytsejam dtfaq441
Later!
Skadz
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 11:17:37 -0600
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Whammyland
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961116171737.006f02d8@enteract.com>
>From: acook@tiac.net (acook)
>Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2028
>By saying this I mean that in terms of straight-forward notes and rhythms,
>ie not making weird sounds or bending harmonics with whammy and whateve. I'd
>love to see Vai or Satch do an improv solo without their whammy bar, because
>people often occuse them of using it as a "crutch". Would they be able to
>play well without it? I think they have enough licks in their vocabulary to
>do a good job, but live Vai always seems to jump back to it. Also, Johnson
>is by far the superior at covering wide intervals and the entire fretboard
>in single lines. This is because most people visualize the fretboard
>patterns available closest to wherever they are playing, but Johnson jumps
>around aimlessly and always seems to hit the note he's going for. Check out
>Camel's Night Out for some brilliant improv in this style.
I don't understand how utilizing all of your guitars hardware can
make your playing impure unless you.... nevermind. But seriously, I really
heavily disagree with you and Bafu about Vai ad Satriani playing off a bunch
of licks they've memorized, whereas Johnson doesn't. I hear a lot of the
same licks from Johnson, just in different keys. Satch plays songs without
the whammy anywhere in them. Vai probably does too (I know he didn't use it
THAT heavily on Zappa's Man from Utopia) but the goal of guitar playing is
to make music, no? Does using a whammy bar to do things that you CAN'T do
without one make the music less valuable or less tasteful? That's like
saying bassists who play fretted bass are less of musicians than fretless
bassists because with fretless bass you have to watch your technique more so
you don't go out of intonation. Fretted bassist (and guitarists for that
matter) use frets as a crutch? No, it's part of the design of the
instrument you play, and if you can use it well, what reason is there not to
use it?
> Just reminding all of you who haven't voted yet:
>
> VOTE, YOU PRICKS!
Since you asked so nicely... :)
Chris W. Ptacek Musician and Listener
A.K.A Madsman, on IRC
"Can we search for inspiration -- those ideas that just come
from 'nowhere'? They don't surface when you're tHiNKinG.
They just come. What we CAN do is make fertile the ground
on which idea seeds fall."
- Michael Hedges
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 11:39:21 -0600
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Cc: drbewb@mo.net
Subject: Fates Warning's IGoD
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961116173921.006e34ac@mail.inlink.com>
ok, one of my all time gripes about fates warning's "The ivory gate of
dreams" on cd was that it was split up into tracks. I was just over at a
friends house, and he has a copy on cd with different artwork (or less, the
back is all black with the tracklist) BUT its all on one track! anyone know
anything about which version was released when and stuff? dale, i'm hitting
you with a carbon copy of this cuz i know you just got it from a cd club..
which way is yours?
~Rip
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 12:43:10 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: bootlegging
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.961116123102.29436E-100000@oak.liii.com>
On Sat, 16 Nov 1996 Raivo Hool wrote:
>
> I bet you all can find it on the King Crimson website if you search
> hard enough.
>
> Robert Fripp said something like this about bootlegging: there's
> something special about every concert. Now, if you try to can it,
> or tape it, for that matter, the aura just won't be there anymore.
Fripp said this many years ago when recorders were primitive by today's
standards.
> Ever wondered why the gig you just went to and what sounded so great
> sounds like shit when you see some clips on the TV or hear it on the
> radio? It's the aura thing.
I don't know about that. The WHo show that sounded so great last night
still sounds great this morning :)
> You can't capture the thought you're
> thinking in words in its entirety.
I'll agree with that.
BTW- the Fripp comments you refer to can also be found on the back of a
Crimson bootleg LP. I think it's the "Dancing with Dr. D" LP.
It's also interesting to note that Crimson just played the HORDE festival
which allows taping.
Andy
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 96 12:51:52 EST
From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: re: Yngwie Malmsteen
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+VrTXmA@tcx.tcco.com>
| Malmsteen is a guy who "blows his wad in 5 minutes"
| meaning, in 5 minutes, you've heard all that he is.
| he has incredible speed and execution, but that's about it.
What about his songwriting/composing skills? Sure, his singing sucks, he runs
his mouth a little too much and his "radio-friendly" songs have made him just
another shredder trying to cross-over - but songs like "Black Star", "Evil
Eye" and "Trilogy Suite" are monstrous!
Does anyone agree with the following - No other guitarist (except Eddie Van
Halen) spawned more clones than Yngwie in the 80s. Hell, I was one of them!
I went so far as to destroy one of my necks by attempting to scallop them like
Yngwie.
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 96 12:56:33 EST
From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: More on Yngwie
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+AzTXmA@tcx.tcco.com>
Has anyone seen Yngwie play recently? I saw him about 6 months ago and he
looked horrible. His face looked very fat and he must've had about 20 extra
pounds around his gut. Although, his wife was the exact opposite - a total
knockout! Just wondering...
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:56:06 -0500
From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Vicious Rumors (NDTC)
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961116195606.006779e8@ici.net>
I had gotten some inquiries on IRC and other places about the band Vicious
Rumors (because my IRC nickname is taken from one of their songs), so I put
up a page with a couple of zipped .RA files of some VR songs. Anyone that is
interested can get them at http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/sounds.html
If you download them, listen to them, and *like* them, you can e-mail me for
more info about the band/albums/etc.
________Pat Sullivan__________________________________
E-mail: psull@ici.net
WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html
IRC: DDictator
NP: Vicious Rumors - "Word Of Mouth"
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 23:46:57 +2000
From: <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: hippocrate
Message-ID: <199611162146.XAA26698@pepe.online.ee>
> "I'm sick of all you hippocrites......holding me at bay,
Wasn't he an ancient Greek who basically founded medicine as such?
:-)
Or are you referring to "hypocrites"? ;-)
Raitz
"One of nature's greatest wonders is the ability of the human ear
to distinguish among a million of sounds around us. Listen!"
"BBBBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!"
Devin Townsend & Strapping Young Lad
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 96 21:46:22 UT
From: "Susan Ostroske" <spatz13@msn.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Myung
Message-ID: <UPMAIL08.199611162150130811@msn.com>
I'm sure this has probably been asked here before, but I have a memory worse
than swiss cheese.... so...
What nationality(ies) is John Myung? I thought he as Japanese....then I saw
something written here about him knowing very little Korean... ???
Kamsahamnida... (that's Korean for thank you).
Suz
http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/3781
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 23:59:44 +2000
From: <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Steve DiMadgio
Message-ID: <199611162159.XAA26931@pepe.online.ee>
Hello again
A friend of mine wanted to me to ask what Steve DiMadgio is up to. He
played bass in Sadus once and then in Death on their 1993 album (the
name of which escapes me). Private email please, if anybody does have
the information.
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:03:00 -0600
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: myung's nationality
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961116220300.006d5584@mail.inlink.com>
>
>What nationality(ies) is John Myung?
from what i've heard he's korean. :)
~Rip
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 17:38:50 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: Yitz-see-jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: New Spock's bearD!@
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.961116173709.3463A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Hiya, Kids.
Just wanted to let you know about the two new Spock's Beard albums.
1) The Light LIive + 1: This is their whole first album LIVE at Progday
'95. Along with those four songs are a new studio track. i'll have the
cd in the next week, and i'll let you know how it sounds.
2) Their new album is slated for release in mid-December. Telnet to
ghostland to get all the details.
syrinx.
np: tony banks - still.
____________________________________________
michael b. ostrich - musical consultant
e-mail: syrinx@dreamt.org
syrinx@wicked.stigmata.org
syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu
"..and now you're trembling on a rocky ledge, staring down into a
heartless sea. done with life on a razor's egde, nothing's what you
thought it woule be.."
- neil peart.
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 18:07:56 -0500
From: saveur <saveur@cais.cais.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: myung's nationality
Message-ID: <3.0b34.32.19961116180744.006b4a7c@cais.cais.com>
>>What nationality(ies) is John Myung?
>
>from what i've heard he's korean. :)
from what i've herad, he's american of korean descent :)
j . c h r i s t i a n j j e n s @ g m u . e d u
e
n
s h t t p : / / w w w . c a i s . n e t / j j e n s /
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 18:48:54 -0500 (EST)
From: al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Dan Abosso)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: tix, conciously unreal
Message-ID: <199611162348.SAA23901@osfn.org>
Got DT tickets for the Providence show - who else is going?
Anyways, has anyone noticed that on the Consciously (sp?) Unreal
set that when Charlie announces himself, he gets a poor "audience review",
so he says the Portnoy's name like a second after he realizes they don't
really like him? (just thought I'd add that in..)
-- An echo of a distant time..------------------------------
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 19:14:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hi Hi Hi Hi Hi Message-ID: <199611170014.TAA13678@wicked.stigmata.org>
Hey All ....
Miracles do happen and I have proved it. Check this out:
At home: Elm says: Mailbox is '/var/spool/mail/skadberg' with 0 messages [ELM 2.4 PL25] The directory where I keep all my sorted mail says: wicked:~$ ls newmail/ wicked:~$ At work: Elm says: Mailbox is '/var/mail/skadz' with 0 messages [ELM 2.4 PL24]
This is amazing. I am completely caught up :) I even cleaned out the ytsejam moderator mailbox :):)
So, on to some real stuff. First, since the above is the truth, if you think I owe you mail, please email me. I don't have anymore, so it must have gotten lost or something. And since this is the situation, you will probably get a very quick response from me :)
Ytsejam Stuff -------------
Current Subscribers: 931
Just thought everyone should know :) I unsubbed anyone who was bouncing, so that should be a real number too :)
I have been trying to keep the archive up lately too. Mike's updates will be going in when he sends them to me and the FAQ updates will be going in when D-Man sends em to me. I mailed Mike Backoff for a copy of the discography, so I can put an update one of those in the archive as well.
I am going to clean the archive up a bit in the near future too. If you have anything that you think should be in the archive, please email it to me and if I feel it should be there, I will add it in.
I am also going to be updating the message that people get when they subscribe. If you have anything you feel should be added or changed in this, please tell me SOON. I am hoping to do this in the next day or two.
Dream Theater IRC Server ------------------------
First off, if you don't know about this, I run an IRC server for all the ytsejammers to come and chat on. The info on the server is:
irc.dreamt.org port 2112
Some of you who use the server alot have seen a message about the server moving soon. Well, it has. Nothing has to change, I just moved it to a new machine and pointed irc.dreamt.org to it. The old server is still up and the two are connected until the machine that holds the old server goes offline.
There will be a day where the new server will be down while it is being physically moved to its new location. I will post about this when the time comes.
Dreamt.org accounts -------------------
As many of you know, I own the domain dreamt.org. There is a possibility that the aliases that are set up for these accounts may go down for a day or two when things start to move around. I will inform everyone if this is going to happen, but this is just a prewarning.
Rush ----
Saw them last weekend :) Had a group of 14 (I know because I counted to it many times) It was an amazing show. It was also real cool to see alot of the ytsejammers who live in the area and even some who don't (Wisha, D-Man). Had a real good time, I hope everyone else did too.
December DT Shows -----------------
I am planning on being at the shows in CT, RI, and NJ :) Just so everyone knows :) Should be another blast just like last year :)
The Explanation ---------------
So, by now, I guess alot of people are wondering what the hell is going on with me that I have time to answer all my email and am moving all kinds of stuff around. Well, the company I used to work for Blue Sky is closing. They are closing because things became a bit too much for me to handle all by myself and I decided to leave the company. They should be closed in about 2 weeks and that is why things are moving. Some friends of mine are putting a new T1 up which will have a machine that I use attached to it, so the new server will be going there. Because of the move, there is a possibility that my dialup, which hosts the dreamt.org mail will go down for a day or two while things get set up.
I am now working for Pencom System Adminstration. Its the company that Johnny "Motown" Mastin character works for. I am really enjoying it so far and there's alot of potential for that enjoyment to increase, so things are real good these days. :)
OK, I think that should be everything.
Later! Skadz
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 18:27:46 -0600 From: smilodon@data.net.mx (Raul Rodriguez) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re:guitar heroes Message-ID: <199611170027.SAA29375@nic.data.net.mx>
=20 >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Guitar Heroes. (very low DTC) >Message-ID: <199611160653.XAA30916@nevis.u.arizona.edu> > >Hi all, > Since we've been on the topic of incredible guitarists lately >(namely Satch, Vai, Johnson, and of course Petrucci), I was wondering what >you all thought of Gary Hoey. I just went out and bought "Bug Alley" (his >new CD) today and I just must say it kicks ass. I've always respected him >and I'm wondering what you all think of his music.
could you tell us more about the new album, i have the Animal Instinct, i really love this album, Gary is a guitarrist with style and good technique. Does anybody have a Hammer guitar like Gary Hoey i have not seen any,i would like to know about the brand.
Talking about band names, I know a band call "The electric shoes", like the band of Kevin Arnold of Wonder years( well in the spanish version ) cool name don=B4t you thing?
See you=20 Omar Rodriguez=20 smilodon@data.net.mx
"This world is spining arround me"....DT
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 18:57:33 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Wacky Band Names Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.961116185637.125119A-100000@homer28.u.washington.edu>
> From: "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> > Subject: Re: > > What other people have wacky old names for their first bands?
Don't you mean who HASN'T? :) The only band I've ever been in (years ago) had an identity-crises in that the think-tank comprised of the vocalist/rhythm guitarist and bassist would change the band-name at will without discussing things first with the drummer or lead guitarist. We ended up bouncing from this to that:
1. Journeymen (used previous to the addition of the bassist and drummer, carried over without their consent) 2. Anvil 3. Sphere of Influence
This was over the course of one year, summer of '92 to summer of '93. After I moved in '93 the name was changed again to
4. Trial By Fire. (the band dis-banded in '95)
The only names I ever suggested and pushed for were "Longshot" and "Hourglass," but they ended up in the Great Band Name Dumpster.
---- > From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u..arizona.edu> > Subject: Re: band names > > How 'bout: > > Polaris
YES!! The X-Men rule!
---- > From: saveur <saveur@cais.cais.com> > Subject: Re: band names (NDTC) > > no, *i* was in Polaris...
YES!! The X-Men rule EVERYWHERE!
> 4 weeks, 2 days til DT @ Birch Hell :)
Okay, so who's going to tally up the number of ACOS's until the show? :)
Bafu Vai
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