YTSEJAM digest 2034

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Mon Nov 18 1996 - 12:22:14 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 2034

    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2030
     by Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
      2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2032
     by "Richard A. Bond, Jr." <rickbond@concentric.net>
      3) Conversions?
     by Jennifer <jenibear@gvn.net>
      4) Metal Edge Stuff
     by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
      5) Re: opera
     by "Joseph M. Lofft" <jmlofft@buffnet.net>
      6) Re: Lemur Voice official homepage
     by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
      7) Lemur voice Home Page
     by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
      8) Providence Show- NEED INFO!
     by edwilk@juno.com (Ed J Wilk III)
      9) Re: Lemur voice Home Page
     by Kain <kain@caribe.net>
     10) "Oh God not again !"
     by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
     11) Providence show/DT shows in general
     by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
     12) Providence tix
     by Rick <Richard_Harris@brown.edu>
     13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2032
     by "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
     14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2033
     by jrbower@iastate.edu
     15) #YTSEJAM, having a sucky Monday...
     by MIKA NUMMINEN <te95mne@student.hgs.se>
     16) Re: THERION THELI
     by MIKA NUMMINEN <te95mne@student.hgs.se>
     17) RE: YTSEJAM digest 2032
     by "SchuBert" <H.M.Peeters@stud.tue.nl>
     18) DT screen saver
     by "Marquering, Wessel" <Wessel.Marquering@econ.kuleuven.ac.be>
     19) CONVERETED!!!
     by Ryan_Rafaloff@tanagraphics.com (Ryan Rafaloff)
     20) DREG info
     by "DREG Records" <DREG@hutman.com>

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    Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 19:04:56 -0500 (EST)
    From: Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2030
    Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.961117190418.2766A-100000@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>

    I got my tickets for Birch Hill like 3 days ago! (November 14th) See ya
    all there!!!

    Dan

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    Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 19:08:46 -0800
    From: "Richard A. Bond, Jr." <rickbond@concentric.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2032
    Message-ID: <328FD33E.22CC@concentric.net>

    > Vicious Rumors. I have a few of their CDs
    > and would highly recommend them to anyone. For those who don't know,
    > the singer, Carl Albert, was tragically killed in a car accident last
    > year and now one of the guitar players now does the singing.
    > Carl was an amazing singer and it's another tragic loss in the
    > world.

    Wow...you've like...totally just put me in awe. I didn't know of this,
    and now I feel lost. I'm glad to know this though, so thank you for the
    information.

    Rick Bond

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    Date: Sun, 17 Nov 96 16:12:44 -0000
    From: Jennifer <jenibear@gvn.net>
    To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Conversions?
    Message-ID: <199611180012.QAA23137@pawn.ax.com>

    Robert queried in Ytsejam #2028:

    > So here's my question (flame away if it's been overthreaded in the
    >past): I'd like introduce my new girlfriend, Jenny, to DT in a
    >manner that best guarantees her coming to like them as I do.

    I've come to conclude that it's not about any one song. If you want to
    be really fair and let her form her own opinion, take a drive with her
    one day and just play the entire I&W album. Heck, you can sort of play
    it in the background. That's pretty much what Keith did for me. :)

    Jen

     o.-.o For millions of years mankind lived just like animals.
     ((^)) Then something happened which unleashed the power of our
    O) _ (O imagination...we learned to talk. (Steven Hawking)
     O/ \O

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    Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 19:13:18 -0500 (EST)
    From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
    To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Metal Edge Stuff
    Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.961117185930.59058B-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>

            Greetings all. Here's some info I got from the latest issue of
    Metal Edge that is relevant here. Some of it you know, some you don't.

            Galactic Cowboys: Working on a follow-up to "Machine Fish," due
    out in April.

            The Queen Tribute Album: will feature JP and JL (singing "Sheer
    Heart Attack" and "One Vision). Other notables on the album are Bruce
    Kulick and Eric Singer (ex-Kiss), Marty Friedman, Yngwie Malmsteen.

            Fates Warning: new album due out in June, containing one 21
    minute track. Supposed to be very dark and aggressive, featuring Joey
    Vera o n guitar and our very own KM on keyboards. The magazine also sayst
    that Kev will have an album out next year

            Queensyrche: a live Promised Land vide will be issued strictly
    for fan club memebers.

            This issue is also focuses on guitar players, and the little
    blurb on JP is as follows:
                    
            "Attracted to guitar while watching a neighborhood band in action
    and inspiried by Iron Madien, Black Sabbath, Rush, and Yes, and later
    Steve Vai, Al DiMeola, and Allen Holdsworth, Dream Theater's JOHN
    PETRUCCI taught himself to play at age 12 on a cheap acoustuc and studied
    at the Berklee College of Music after high school graduation. He now uses
    Ibanez electrics, including his signature model and will be heard on DT's
    in-the-works- disc, due out in '97.

                            Richie

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    Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 19:52:54 -0500
    From: "Joseph M. Lofft" <jmlofft@buffnet.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: opera
    Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19961118005254.006a205c@buffnet.net>

    > Hey, does anyone else out there think it would be cool if DT did a
    >rock/prog. metal opera. I think if they did it would kick Tomy and
    >Quadrophenia's butts. Or maybe they could do the entire music score for a
    >major motion picture. That would be cool as well. I would go see any movie
    >that had DT listed in the music credits. Just a thought.

            Can you say "Operation:Mindcrime" ???

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    Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:28:16 -0400 (AST)
    From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Lemur Voice official homepage
    Message-ID: <199611180128.VAA16763@mail.caribe.net>

    At 03:04 PM 11/17/96 -0800, you wrote:
    >New tourdates:
    >
    >26 november - Noorderligt, Tilburg (support of Yngwie Malmsteen)
    >29 november - Metropool, Hengelo
    >07 december - Exit In G, Landgraaf
    >08 december - Headbanger's heaven, Houten
    >17 januari - Blokhut, Rotterdam

    eheheh you guys are gonna kick Yngwie's fat ass there.. hehe ....at least i
    hope so

                                                                                
                                          Cheers....

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    Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:33:09 -0400 (AST)
    From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
    To: Ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Lemur voice Home Page
    Message-ID: <199611180133.VAA16973@mail.caribe.net>

     I tried the url and it didnt work...

                 We Can Learn From the past..but those days are gone..
                 We can hope for the future..but there may not be one...
                            < DREAM THEATER: A CHANGE OF SEASONS>
             WOWOWOWWWWWW hoooo wowoW WOWWwwwwww hoooo -Devin Townsend
                               WoWoW WoWoW WoWoW - Mike Portnoy
                                    Email: Calfaro@Caribe.net Calfaro@dreamt.org

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    Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 20:14:34 EST
    From: edwilk@juno.com (Ed J Wilk III)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Providence Show- NEED INFO!
    Message-ID: <19961117.201111.8295.1.EdWilk@juno.com>

    Hey Fellow Jammers,

            I really need some help here. I was informed that the Providence
    show was on Friday, December 13 at the Strand. It says that in the DT
    FAQ, and it also says that on the Strand webpage. So, I went to
    Strawberry's (me and two friends) and bought our ticket vouchers. On the
    voucher it says that the date for the show is 12/12. Now this is VERY
    VERY bad. It would be my first DT show, and if it is on 12/12, I CANNOT
    GO. Please help me here. Is the show on the 12th? Is it on the 13th? Is
    it on both days? The ticket vouchers are non-refundable, so if there's a
    show on the 13th, does anyone know if I could get the tickets exchanged?
    ::sigh:: Someone please tell me it's the 13th.. :'(

            -- Ed

    "Hey, friend I can feel your pain,
    even heroes cry in the rain..."

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    Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:19:47 -0500
    From: Kain <kain@caribe.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Lemur voice Home Page
    Message-ID: <328FC7C3.73EE@caribe.net>

    Carlos Alfaro wrote:
    >
    > I tried the url and it didnt work...
    He said it wouldn't till next week. So you should start checking from
    Monday on till the weekend.

    -- 
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    Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 11:25:45 +0100 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'The Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>, "'Freaks Mailinglist'" <freaks@ax.com> Subject: "Oh God not again !" Message-ID: <01BBD3CC.E8E91880@Picard.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>

    *Damn*, I hate my ISP... It's been exactly one week since I set up those Marillion and Dream Theater polls on my homepage... I've had 150 visitors since then... But I only got 11 entries in the Marillion poll and 15 in the Dream Theater poll... Most people entered both...

    I should have gotten at least 5-8 times as many, but (as usual) my ISP phuqed up again... I was told someone mailbombed himself, screwing up all the e-mail for the rest in the process... (if you mailed me over the last week, please mail it again!)

    I'm gonna keep a list of those who entered my polls on my homepage... If you're not on it yet, please please please enter it again :-< I hate to think I went to all this trouble for nothing just because of a sucky internet provider... I'll update the list of entrants every day from now on... If you're not on the list the day after you've entered, then something went wrong again...

    If you don't feel like going to my homepage *again*, to sign the form (that took me hours to make) then just e-mail me your top 10, and I'll enter it myself... That's how desperate I am, right now... Just mail me at bredius@globalxs.nl... It *should* be working again :-/ Here are the categories :

    Marillion poll : Dream Theater :

    1. Favourite Fish/Marillion albums 1. Favourite album 2. Favourite Hogarth/Marillion albums 2. Favourite WDADU songs 3. Favourite Fish solo albums 3. Favourite Images & Words songs 4. Favourite Fish/Marillion songs 4. Favourite LatM songs 5. Favourite Hogarth/Marillion songs 5. Favourite Awake songs 6. Favourite Fish solo songs 6. Favourite ACOS songs 7. Favourite songs

    I'll put an update on the polls on my homepage today... Check it out :-)

    Mark _______________________________________________________itchy@dreamt.org__ All of us get lost in the darkness _ _____ ___ _ _ _ _ Dreamers learn to steer by the stars (`)(_```_)/``_)(`)_(`)(`)_(`) All of us do time in the gutter RUSH | | ) ( ( (_ | _ | \_ / Dreamers turn to look at the cars THE PASS (_) (_) \___)(_) (_) (__/ ____________________________________________________bredius@globalxs.nl__ Maintainer of the Freaks, Ytsejam and Voices "Most Frequent Poster Lists" http://www.prognosis.com/itchy http://www.globalxs.nl/home/b/bredius/

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    Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:24:07 -0500 From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Providence show/DT shows in general Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961118022407.00679c0c@ici.net>

    >Having just got my tix to the Providence show (on the 12th, by the way), I >noticed that the tickets say "all ages". Could this be true ?? I recall >many younger fans really being pissed at the 18+ thing last time around. I >hope they still sell beers .....

    Yes, the Strand does have all ages shows, and yes, they still sell alcohol. If I remember correctly, they wristband all the Over-21's.

    >And, will there be a mini Ytsecon like before the show in New London ?? If >so, could it be a bit more lively this time ??!! Nice people for certain, >but it had the feeling of a morgue.

    I had mentioned the possibility of grabbing something to eat at the Trinity Brewhouse before the show, but I didn't get much of a response. I figure, at least if we do that, we'll have something to do (eat/drink) besides talk. :)

    So what's up, Providence show-goers? I plan to be at Trinity beacuse I always go there before Strand shows. You may all feel free to join me. :)

    -----

    >It's the 12th, I just got tickets for it :) Also, does anybody know if >Strand is a seated place? My tickets say GA, which would most likely imply >standing, but I know it's an old movie theater place, so I thought it had >seats. Anybody know???

    No seats in the main area, although I believe there are seats in the balcony. I don't think they're going to open the balcony for this show, though, so I guess the answer to your question is: No - no seats. :)

    -----

    >and where >is the bestest place to be during the show. personally i had planned on >cramming myself as close to the stage as possible, but i have heard that >the balcony/patio/other spot is the best place to be.

    I usually stand near the soundboard, if I can. It stands to reason that if the sound guy is adjusting it so it sounds good to him, then near him is where it'll sound the best. :)

    Seriously, I try and stay back from the stage because I like having a little room to move. Plus, for some reason, DT always has the sound WAY WAY too loud for the venue they're in, so you get ear-bleed if you get too close to the stage.

    -----

    ________Pat Sullivan__________________________________ E-mail: psull@ici.net WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html IRC: DDictator NP: Vicious Rumors - "Word Of Mouth"

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    Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:30:48 -0500 From: Rick <Richard_Harris@brown.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Providence tix Message-ID: <199611180231.VAA18556@golden.brown.edu>

    I know the Providence show at the Strand is on Dec 12th, but when and from where are the tickets being released? Alos, if anyone has any information on the prices, could the please e-mail them to me. Thank You,

    Rick

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    Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 20:30:02 +0000 From: "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2032 Message-ID: <199611180334.UAA03059@cyberhighway.net>

    > I hate having conversations through the jam like this because no matter what > you type you can't seem to represent yourself as a whole. For instance I > originally stated that I feel Johnson is the best of the G3 players and was > jumped on because people took it as ragging on the other 2 guys, even though > I enjoy listening to all of them. Not to mention what I say gets taken out > of line, as with what happened above.

    (Break lurker mode here...)

    That's why I've gone to lurking (and alot of ohers here are doing the same, I'll bet) Opinionated responses anymore only wind up in a huge flame war. You can't admit anything unless you have proof to back it up anymore. I only plan on posted on matters of informational services and in the event that someone says something kewl or to piss me off severely. Saves me from getting my scalp burned. Flame away....

    (Re-entering lurker mode)

    Disclaimer: All entries posted in this text are copyrighted by IbnzRG570 and are subject to applicable laws. Unauthorized reproduction of any entry contained within without written consent of the owner is strictly forbidden. "Rokz nadz, kikz butz, and hott chikz" are trademarks owned by IbnzRG570. :)

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    Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:45:10 CST From: jrbower@iastate.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2033 Message-ID: <9611180545.AA02212@las1.iastate.edu>

    Hey--I was in a band in HS and we covered Pull Me Under and The Silent Man. How did it sound? Like a bunch of HS kids playing on Fenders in a gym. It went ok, we could hardly keep from ytse-gizzing all over the place though, I still smile every time I listen to the tape. It was for a fundraiser, the kids loved PMU, the old folks turned off their hearing aids. =) Our band was/is called Aphasia. We had no permanent singer--look up the word in the dictionary and you'll see how it fits. =) For 2 extra credit points, where did we get the word Aphasia?? =)

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    Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:42:52 +0100 From: MIKA NUMMINEN <te95mne@student.hgs.se> To: The end of the world as we know it <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: #YTSEJAM, having a sucky Monday... Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19961118094252.0837fb00@pop.student.hgs.se>

    I thought my I'd had a sucky Monday, but then I came to school, and got this little message from my mIRC, as I tried to reach my friendly #ytsejam neighbours....

    *** Connecting to irc.dreamt.org (2112) - Local host: (130.238.201.61) - *** Unable to connect to IRC server -

    BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!! I hate Mondays!!!!

    Mika Numminen, aka Viking

    MAIL: te95mne@student.hgs.se URL: http://www.hgs.se/~te95mne ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you."

    Nietzsche "Beyond good and evil" ------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:51:37 +0100 From: MIKA NUMMINEN <te95mne@student.hgs.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: THERION THELI Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19961118095137.0837afd2@pop.student.hgs.se>

    At 16.40 1996-11-15 -0800, Jean Francois Cloutier wrote: >everybodies into gothic progressive doom metal band must listen to the new >dream come true cd :THERION THELI >

    I agree totally, I'd recommend this to anyone who is into _HEAVY_ (is that big enough.. :) high quality doom (VERY melidc), with choirs chanting away in great arrangements, and keys that further give it another dimension....

    The production is also superb, crisp and clear, no muddiness at all, all instruments are audiable and very cleverly mixed, so this is a must have for anyone into metal!!!

    Cheers,

    Mika Numminen, aka Viking

    MAIL: te95mne@student.hgs.se URL: http://www.hgs.se/~te95mne ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you."

    Nietzsche "Beyond good and evil" ------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:05:54 +0100 (CET) From: "SchuBert" <H.M.Peeters@stud.tue.nl> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 2032 Message-ID: <47157.H.M.Peeters@stud.tue.nl>

    > Hey, does anyone else out there think it would be cool if DT did a > rock/prog. metal opera. > While we're on this subject, has anybody heard of the "Ayreon" CD's ? Anyone from Holland, perhaps? There's this Dutch guitar player, Arjen Lucassen, who has created two rock opera's, which are really EXCELLENT! Buy it, if you ever run into it! WW /__\ Groeten! | oo | (|_()_|) +-------------------------+ \__/ | H.M.Peeters@stud.tue.nl | /|\/|\ +-------------------------+ |||||||| |||||||| |||||||| Bert

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    Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:39:41 +0100 From: "Marquering, Wessel" <Wessel.Marquering@econ.kuleuven.ac.be> To: "'jitseejam@aks.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT screen saver Message-ID: <c=BE%a=_%p=K.U.Leuven%l=ECONSRV8-961118123941Z-926@econsrv8.econ.kuleuven.ac.be>

    Hi Yammers,

    I'm looking for a DT screen saver as I'm bored of my Windows 95 screen saver. Please, e-mail me personally.

    Wessel Marquering (My '96 top 3: 1. Lemur Voice - Insights; 2. Working Man 3. Marillion - Made Again.)

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    Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 10:55:20 -0500 From: Ryan_Rafaloff@tanagraphics.com (Ryan Rafaloff) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: CONVERETED!!! Message-ID: <274014.ensmtp@tanagraphics.com>

    Yup, you guessed it.

    I had the pleasure of converting 2 "Rush, Yes, VH, and Pink Floyd" fans onto the DT sound. These are the type who comapre Alex, to Eddie, to Dave, among others. I figured that all the elements were there. Well now it's time to add JP to the list. Perhaps the top of the list. It happened in my car during a discussion about unique time signatures. They were sold on the band, then sold on JP when they heard the UAGM solo. guess how many times we replayed it? I can still hear 'em now "...how the hell does he do that?..."

    Later,

    -Raf-

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    Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:12:06 +0000 From: "DREG Records" <DREG@hutman.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DREG info Message-ID: <1363803840-1588622@hutman.com>

    Here's the info again, for those who asked for it:

    "DREGs of the Internet - Volume 1"

    Including a dozen independant bands and over 70 minutes of the internet's best progressive rock and metal. Hear this ground-breaking new music BEFORE these bands make it big! All original music influenced by the greats (Dream Theater, Rush, Yes, Fates Warning, Queensryche, ELP, Kansas, Metallica, etc.)

    Featuring the bands:

    * Clockwork * Happenstance * Mirror * Cold Front * 3250 * Psychedelic Lullabies * Facade * Inferno * The Age of Reason * Naked * Natures Call * Atlantis

    *** LAST CALL ***

    This will probably be the last chance you'll have to get the FREE Naked 5-song tape since we're down to the last few.

    FREE bumper stickers with every order! (while supplies last) Or get one free, along with our catalog, just by sending us a SASE.

    Send check, money-order, postal-order, or carefully hidden cash for just $12 (+ $2 s/h, $4 for international orders) for each CD to:

    DREG Records "DREGs of the Internet - Volume 1" 1912 Old Stonemill Drive Cranbury, NJ 08512

    or check out the official website for song samples, reviews and info:

    http://www.hutman.com/dreg/compcd.html

    "A bargain at twice the price!"

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