YTSEJAM Digest 2035
Today's Topics:
1) Re: DT screen saver
by "DREG Records" <DREG@hutman.com>
2) Close, but no cigar
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
3) about the blurb and FW
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
4) IRC
by Polo <ytse_jammer@mail.utexas.edu>
5) Re: IRC
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
6) Jason Becker Benefit
by svjohnson@amoco.com
7) Re: DT screen saver
by Wronskian <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
8) Horrors! An Exploding Whale!
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
9) Eric Johnson
by Ann M Sutton <asutton2@Bayou.UH.EDU>
10) RE: prog / rock / metal opera
by Juha Leinonen <joshua@utanet.fi>
11) Homepage
by Marcel Coenen <mcoenen@cobweb.nl>
12) Providence
by psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
13) Boston -> Providence rides...
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
14) Re: Rock Operas
by blane@nla.gov.au
15) Nevermore, introductions, Itchy's excesses (NDTC)
by "Kevin W. Madden" <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
16) Re: Jason Becker Benefit
by Wronskian <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:40:08 +0000
From: "DREG Records" <DREG@hutman.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: DT screen saver
Message-ID: <1363802161-1689493@hutman.com>
> From: "Marquering, Wessel" <Wessel.Marquering@econ.kuleuven.ac.be>
>
> I'm looking for a DT screen saver as I'm bored of my Windows 95 screen
> saver.
>
> Wessel Marquering
you can get a free one here:
enjoy!
-steve
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:05:27 -0500 (EST)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Close, but no cigar
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9611181307.D22482-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
So, I'm going through every link I can find, trying to find Sebastian
Bach's web page, because I apparently never bookmarked it. (Can anyone
help me out, btw?) And as I'm going from page to page, I'm seeing a lot
of pages that purport to have famous musicians' e-mail addresses. How
people would collect this knowledge, I don't know. Then I saw Carl
Cadden-James' e-mail address (whether it's right or not, I don't know),
and I figured, well, at least the designer of this page has taste. So,
I'm scrolling down, and what do I see, but an e-mail address for none
other than Mike Portnoy. Wow, I think, I didn't know the general world
knew his address. Then I look at what the address actually is:
durnik@indirect.com.
Wrong address, *and* wrong Mike. I hope Mr. Bahr isn't getting a lot of
mail because of this. :)
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:17:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: about the blurb and FW
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.961118130852.13656B-100000@joust.rs.itd.umich.edu>
FW first: new album in June: does it contain anything BESIDES the 21
minute track, or are they pulling a black aria on us??
About the blurb below....
"Attracted to guitar while watching a neighborhood band in action
and inspiried by Iron Madien, Black Sabbath, Rush, and Yes, and later
Steve Vai, AL DIMEOLA, and Allen Holdsworth, Dream Theater's
JP taught himself to play......"
that DiMeola guy is a freakin' GOD.....saw him play the other night, a
show with him, Paco De Lucia and John McGloughlin.....beyond my meager
vocabulary to describe how awesome a show that was.....from seats sorta
high in the Michigan Theater, sometimes I couldn't distinguish fingers,
those three were moving 'em so fast....McGlouglin's strum hand looked like
some wicked protoplasm most of the night, he was shaking it quite
quickly (the others' hands' prolly looked the same at another angle)
I really liked how they played the show....first, each of them came out
and did a solo piece, then, they did duets (paco and al, al and john, paco
and john).....about 1:10 for that.....after intermission, they came out
and did trios for another hour plus.....
Now, I had deliberately held myself back from getting a preview of these
guys, and my impressions were that I like DiMeola best, De Lucia second
and McGlaughlin third--but it may have been because of the
arrangements of the pieces played).....if any McGloughlin fans would like
to argue, please send yer recommendations to ahtrap@umich.edu
partha
p.s.: i'm back.....anyone care? :)
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:32:35 -0600
From: Polo <ytse_jammer@mail.utexas.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: IRC
Message-ID: <3290ABC3.4E4A@mail.utexas.edu>
I've been trying unsuccessfully for a while now to get into the dt irc.
Can someone post a link, or point me to the necessary software?? I keep
getting the same old damn screen that I can't decipher...
Polo
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:18:58 -0400 (AST) From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: IRC Message-ID: <199611181918.PAA29556@mail.caribe.net>
At 10:34 AM 11/18/96 -0800, you wrote: >I've been trying unsuccessfully for a while now to get into the dt irc. >Can someone post a link, or point me to the necessary software?? I keep >getting the same old damn screen that I can't decipher... > > Polo >--=20 >=FFWPC=06=03 > > you need either Mirc or Pirch (irc chat programs for use with a tcp/ip account) and in the server name you put irc.dreamt.org and in the port number 2112 and when youre already connected.. /JOIN #ytsejam
We Can Learn From the past..but those days are gone.. We can hope for the future..but there may not be one... < DREAM THEATER: A CHANGE OF SEASONS> WOWOWOWWWWWW hoooo wowoW WOWWwwwwww hoooo -Devin Townsend=20 WoWoW WoWoW WoWoW - Mike Portnoy Email: Calfaro@Caribe.net = Calfaro@dreamt.org
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 08:30:35 -0600 From: svjohnson@amoco.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Jason Becker Benefit Message-ID: <199611181909.AA15499@interlock.amoco.com>
My thoughts: First: Brian (?), excellent job of your group putting this thing together! It was probably quite monsterour, but well worth it!!!! quick HI: IMO, Tony MacAlpine stole the show! He was the only person besides the headliners (Van Halen, Sheeahan, Torpey, Lukather) to get the crowd to pump fists, cheer during songs and scream for MORE! He was awesome and just performed with class! The best there was! Billy Sheehan was killer! quik lows: - Time between acts.....sometime no interlude music (makes the wait seem longer).....my back started hurting by hour 6 of being on my feet in one spot....Van Halen fans who were so fucking rude to constantly call "Eddie!" while other acts were on stage---classless buttholes....other stuff, maybe. Bottom line was it was worth the money and really pulled on the heart strings when video of Jason wa shown. If you can learn anything about ALS and support the fight (or at least ANY fight), do so. I think this benefit was outstanding! STeve
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:19:23 -0600 (CST) From: Wronskian <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT screen saver Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.961118131816.1215A-100000@eehpx43.cen.uiuc.edu>
Speaking of screen savers, has anyone seen the QR screen savers? Is there anyway that someone would be able to make some like that? If you havent seen them then check out the QR pages and check them out. later.
Ed
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On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Marquering, Wessel wrote:
> Hi Yammers, > > I'm looking for a DT screen saver as I'm bored of my Windows 95 screen > saver. Please, e-mail me personally. > > Wessel Marquering > (My '96 top 3: 1. Lemur Voice - Insights; 2. Working Man 3. Marillion - > Made Again.) > > >
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:06:06 -0800 From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Horrors! An Exploding Whale! Message-ID: <199611181906.LAA14423@main.cfmc.com>
Comments, mostly about guitarists:
Bafu nailed it where Eric Johnson is concerned. EJ is phenomenal not because he does everything, but because the man never runs out of ideas. Stylistically, he's more flexible than he's being given credit for here, I'd say, but he's of more value as a unique voice than a jack-of-all-trades. Zappa, I think, is one of the few guys who could qualify as both....though I'm still not sure he was quite as strong as any of the guys playing on G3.
Kirk Hammett is awesome. He's basically defined a new style of guitar playing. Remember that when "Kill 'Em All" and "Ride The Lightning" were released, there wasn't any formula for soloing over thrash rhythms. Now, if you listen to any band working anything like a thrash/speed style, you can usually hear at least a little Hammett in it. "Fade To Black" is "Stairway To Heaven" for the thrash generation, right down to the amazing solo.
Eddie Van Halen is most important, probably, as an innovator. Even if you credit Steve Hackett with tapping, Van Halen really brought a whole new approach to the table. His soloing is, obviously, impressive....Alvin Lee, even more wound-up. I get off more, though, on his rhythm playing, which has always been phenomenal.
Vito Bratta's another good one, though you can really hear him working through a Van Halenesque style. Still, I think his sense of melody alone makes him a unique voice...and he was able to kick in another gear where a lot of guitarists don't have one.
Well, though for now....
Adam D. Barnhart adamb@cfmc.com ydnt85a@prodigy.com
Five Gratuitous CD's: ===================== 1. Rush: Test For Echo 2. Rush: Counterparts 3. King's X: King's X 4. Candlebox: Lucy 5. Miles Davis: Sketches Of Spain
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:43:35 -0600 (CST) From: Ann M Sutton <asutton2@Bayou.UH.EDU> To: Ytsejam posting address <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Eric Johnson Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.93.961118134136.11704H-100000@Bayou.UH.EDU>
I am very glad I went to G3. It turned me on to Satriani, who I'd already vaguely liked in a noncommittal way. Then this weekend, I bought my first Eric Johnson CD and I fell in love. Would I be right in thinking he's from England? What does the music in "Cliffs of Dover" have to do with the actual cliffs of Dover? I've been there - they're cliffs...white chalk cliffs with some water at the bottom. I dunno, man...:-) Ann
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 22:34:24 +0200 From: Juha Leinonen <joshua@utanet.fi> To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: prog / rock / metal opera Message-ID: <3290C850.4010@zeus.utanet.fi>
>> >> Hey, does anyone else out there think it would be cool if DT did a >> rock/prog. metal opera. >> >While we're on this subject, has anybody heard of the "Ayreon" CD's ? Anyone >from Holland, perhaps? There's this Dutch guitar player, Arjen Lucassen, who >has created two rock opera's, which are really EXCELLENT! Buy it, if you >ever run into it!
Yes of course that would be cool, but now I'm just waiting for the new DT album :-) However if DT would do opera, I think there must be a good orchestra with them. And orchestra's part must be almost dominating, otherwise it would not be opera = then it would be just another DT song. ...Did you get it?
..Well I have never heard about "Ayreon" CD's but if someone is lookin' for good metal opera (symphony) that is WALTARI's "YEAH! YEAH! DIE! DIE! Death metal symphony in deep C". Anyone heard about this???
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:51:53 +0200 From: Marcel Coenen <mcoenen@cobweb.nl> To: YTSEJAM@ax.com Subject: Homepage Message-ID: <199611181951.VAA04731@spider01.cobweb.nl>
Hi there,
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Check it out, it's there now !
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:57:37 -0500 From: psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Providence Message-ID: <199611182048.PAA01378@uhura.ici.net>
>GO. Please help me here. Is the show on the 12th? Is it on the 13th? Is >it on both days? The ticket vouchers are non-refundable, so if there's a >show on the 13th, does anyone know if I could get the tickets exchanged? >::sigh:: Someone please tell me it's the 13th.. :'(
Sorry, it's on the 12th. It was originally scheduled to be on the 13th, and was changed after the date had been announced, which is what led to the confusion. I haven't heard a reason as to why the date was changed, but I have a hunch that somebody involved with the show is superstitious (doesn't want to risk having it on Friday the 13th).
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> I know the Providence show at the Strand is on Dec 12th, but >when and from where are the tickets being released? Alos, if anyone has any >information on the prices, could the please e-mail them to me. Thank You,
The tickets are on sale as of 11/16. The cost is $10.50, plus any applicable service charges. They are available at the Strand, Strawberries, Newbery Comics, and by phone through NEXT.
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:24:51 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Boston -> Providence rides... Message-ID: <199611182124.QAA23733@hematite.cs.brandeis.edu>
I just wanted to let people know, I still have one, possibly 2 seats left in my car for the trip from Boston - Providence for the show... Right now, Skadz & Brian Wherry are going... nobody else has claimed seats...
I am nto sure when I will be leaving from Boston, b/c I will probably want to get together w/ some friends at Brown before, but should not be too early...
-- +--------------------------------+--------+-------------------------+ | Driven to the margin or error | Rush | Michael Burstin | | Driven to the edge of control | Driven | Brandeis University | | Driven to the margin or terror |--------+-------------------------| | Driven to the edge of a deep, dark hole | Lets go Pens & Steelers | +-----------------------------------------+-------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:48:33 +0000 From: blane@nla.gov.au To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Rock Operas Message-ID: <199611182151.IAA29695@email.nla.gov.au>
Blessings Devotees of the Jam,
Last episode SchuBert groaned:
>While we're on this subject, has anybody heard of the "Ayreon" CD's ? Anyone >from Holland, perhaps? There's this Dutch guitar player, Arjen Lucassen, who >has created two rock opera's, which are really EXCELLENT! Buy it, if you >ever run into it!
I must agree here. I have Ayreon's 'The Final Experiment', it goes off in a big way. Set in medieval times, 15 singers and 13 musicians, ranging from Death to Opera, its well worth a listen.
Have they done anything beside The Final Experiment? anyone?
Catcha later, Brett
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:37:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Kevin W. Madden" <kwmadden@pipeline.com> To: This Anastasios character <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Nevermore, introductions, Itchy's excesses (NDTC) Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19961118172104.353f4090@pop.pipeline.com>
First of all, Dusty asked about the new Nevermore, "The Politics of Ecstasy." I am actually listening to it right as we (well - *you*) read... It is defintely going to rate among the best cds of the year, if not *the* best in *my* poll. (BTW, it's coming, Syrinx) This cd is heavy, complex, and every other adjective you can think of (not *you* Bafu - you'll make some shit up) with regard to thrash/prog/power metal. Warrell Dane once again shows his mastery of the vocal realms. The cool thing about this cd is that you don't *get* it all right away. One (/me assumes grey poupon smirk) must listen, and listen again. I haven't even come close to catching all of this stuff yet. On a lyrical note, the songs tend to deal with media manipulation, lsd (like usual) and other stuff. But, you see, THIS SHIT PACKS A CRUNCH! Enough of that descriptive imagery.... The cool thing about it is that you can listen to it as background and it rocks. But if you *pay attention* your jaw may scrape the pavement. Ah. A segue. Jen talked about how to introduce someone to Dream Theater (the music, wise-asses), and mentioned the "Music as a Background" method. I am not sure I agree with this. Dream Theater, in specific, and prog music, in general, strikes me as a band/style to which one must pay close attention. There have been instances where I have been driving in the car with my wife, and Fates or DT or whoever plays in the background. Holding a conversation and *casually* listening to the music, I get the impression that the music is aimless and unpleasing to the ear. Of course, alone in the car on the way to work each day, volume up (a variable I am not even going to touch), I can focus, and the intricacies become apparent. I think this may be why the average music listener, who listens to music as *background* instead of *focus* tends not to enjoy progressive/intricate music so much as easy-to-digest popular pap. But I could be wrong. Itchy! You post too much about polls, you goon. ;-)
GO PACKERS - DEFENESTRATE THEM COWBOYS FROM THE PENTHOUSE!!
GO WINGS - DROP SOME FINE ACME PRODUCTS ON THOSE ROADRUNNERS (or whatever the hell they call the Phoenix team)
Good evening,
Kevin
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:25:41 -0600 (CST) From: Wronskian <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Jason Becker Benefit Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.961118162519.17371A-100000@glibm25.cen.uiuc.edu>
speaking of this. i was unable to attend this. did anyone happen to record it?
Ed
Chat with: talk polzin@isr1165.urh.uiuc.edu WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/ BOOTLEGS: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/boots/boots.htm ------------------------------------------------------------ - Duct Tape is like The Force: It has a Dark Side, it - - has a light side, and it holds the Universe together. - ------------------------------------------------------------
On Mon, 18 Nov 1996 svjohnson@amoco.com wrote:
> My thoughts: > > First: > Brian (?), excellent job of your group putting this thing together! > It was probably quite monsterour, but well worth it!!!! > > quick HI: > > IMO, Tony MacAlpine stole the show! He was the only person besides > the headliners (Van Halen, Sheeahan, Torpey, Lukather) to get the > crowd to pump fists, cheer during songs and scream for MORE! He was > awesome and just performed with class! The best there was! > > Billy Sheehan was killer! > > quik lows: > > - Time between acts.....sometime no interlude music (makes the wait > seem longer).....my back started hurting by hour 6 of being on my feet > in one spot....Van Halen fans who were so fucking rude to constantly > call "Eddie!" while other acts were on stage---classless > buttholes....other stuff, maybe. > > Bottom line was it was worth the money and really pulled on the heart > strings when video of Jason wa shown. If you can learn anything about > ALS and support the fight (or at least ANY fight), do so. I think > this benefit was outstanding! > > STeve > > >
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