YTSEJAM Digest 1912
Today's Topics:
1) the con/Magna Carta
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
2) right to be ticked?
by ReaLiTy iMPaiReD <slowhand@wam.umd.edu>
3) drum solos
by ReaLiTy iMPaiReD <slowhand@wam.umd.edu>
4) Rush at the FleetCenter
by Jeff Falk <jefffalk@bu.edu>
5) A little something...
by John Mastin <johnny@psa.pencom.com>
6) stuff
by btomko@glasscity.net
7) crashing at the con
by Tim Spear <veilmaya@dircon.co.uk>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1909
by Tim Spear <veilmaya@dircon.co.uk>
9) YtseCon I
by mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
10) King's X
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
11) clarification
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
12) Metropolis Watch update/major delay
by Jaime Kimpton <jaimekimpton@vwc.edu>
13) Rush in MA, Ytsecon
by psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
14) Classy Jammer
by CPRS92A@prodigy.com (MR JAN-MICHAEL SOUTER)
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:30:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: the con/Magna Carta
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961008132456.14674B-100000@bdmserver>
bafu writes:
>Are we supposed to guess? Uh... Mike Bahr doesn't have a job. Mike Bahr
>isn't in school taking 18 credits of classes. Mike Bahr isn't busy
>crafting new changes with his eyes. Mike Bahr didn't just drive from
>Bethesda, MD, to Seattle, WA, and feels rather peppy about travelling
>across the country. Or maybe it's just that Mike Bahr has more power than
>Donald Trump and Pat Choate put together.
Quit whining Bafu. I am sure no one held a gun to your head and said "You
must go to school as far away as possible". Then again maybe your parents
did.... :P
On another topic:
How do people rate the Magna Carta groups?
For me I would list them as:
Shadow Gallery
Enchant
Lemur Voice
Altura
Magellan
Cairo
Thats of the bands I have cds....
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:31:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: ReaLiTy iMPaiReD <slowhand@wam.umd.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: right to be ticked?
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.961008132544.27518A-100000@rac4.wam.umd.edu>
yeah, i do have some right to be ticked ... just a reminder to the
organizers of the event to always keep some sort of "liability" clause ...
i remember reading for a LONG time that the band would be there ...
without any reason to believe they wouldn't. it is a meet to meet
jammers, agreed, but still ... (yet i whine and whine!)
well, someone better make it worthwhile! i'm risking this month's
college payment by going to this ...
-still kinda ticked, but understandably so
-john
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:33:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: ReaLiTy iMPaiReD <slowhand@wam.umd.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: drum solos
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.961008133128.27518C-100000@rac4.wam.umd.edu>
bah. i've only seen a few good drum solos before. i think that
lars ulrich (metallica) is a much better drum solist than MP is ... lars
just gets me going, while MP reminds me of almost exactly of neil peart,
whose solos are generally kinda dull too ... MP is an amazing drummer, but
not a great soloist ...
JP on the other hand ... different story ... <all bow down to
god!>
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:52:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeff Falk <jefffalk@bu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush at the FleetCenter
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9610081347.A283369-0100000@acs1.bu.edu>
>I have heard through the local rock radio station that Rush WILL be at
>the Fleet Center on November 9th. The show starts I believe at 7:30 pm.
>Tickets will go on sale this Saturday at 10 a.m. They are between $25-$35
>each. I'll be there!! See you all New Englandites at the Rush show!
>
>Tony
Now what about those of us who are going to Ytsecon III and won't
be able to wait in line? I was afraid that this was going to happen.
Jeff Falk
jefffalk@bu.edu
"you can tell me that I've got no class, look around you'll see who's
laughin' last"
Rush, "Best I Can"
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:03:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: John Mastin <johnny@psa.pencom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: A little something...
Message-ID: <199610081803.NAA10463@psa.pencom.com>
A little something for you air travelers to contemplate on your way out
to the Con... From Dennis Miller...
Your friend and mine,
Johnny Motown
Forwarded message:
> ->
> ->Now I don't want to get off an a rant here, but flying in this country
> ->has turned into an amazingly arduous process, especially boarding the
> ->plane, which has now become this tedious Bataan death march with American
> ->Tourister overnight bags. I get stuck behind this one guy, who takes
> ->forever to get situated. He's clogging the aisle like a piece of human
> ->cholesterol jammed in the passengerial artery. You just want to get that
> ->soft drink cart and flush his ass out the back door. He's folding that
> ->sport jacket like he's in the color guard at Arlington National Cemetery.
> ->
> ->Or else I get stuck behind a wizard who wants to beat the system by
> ->gaffer-taping a twine handle onto a refrigerator-freezer box and calling
> ->it "carry on." Wedging it into the overhead with hydraulic jacks. It's
> ->like trying to get Pavarotti into a wet suit, for Christ's sake.
> ->
> ->And exactly when did stewardesses in this country get so fucking cranky?
> ->I know it's a tough job. There's got to be a thousand different ways to
> ->tie that neckerchief but why piss on me, huh? You know the worst thing
> ->about it is they don't even come clean with you and tell you much they
> ->hate you. They treat you with that highly contrived air of mock civility,
> ->that tight, pursed-lip grin where they nod agreement with everything you
> ->say. You know right behind that face plate they barely tolerate your very
> ->existence. I'd rather they just come out in the open and say, "Hey,
> ->listen asshole. When I was eighteen years old, I made a horrible
> ->vocational error, all right? I turned my entire adult life in for cheap
> ->airfare to Barbados. Now I've got hair with the tensile strength of Elsa
> ->Lanchester in 'Bride of Frankenstein.' I haven't met Mr. Right. I'm a
> ->waitress in a bad restaurant at thirty thousand feet. Jam your Diet Slice
> ->up your ass, all right?" At least show me something. Come down the aisle
> ->like the old broad in 'From Russia with Love' with the knife point coming
> ->out of her shoe. "Peanuts, Mr. Bond?"
> ->
> ->What about when you leave the plane and they've got them propped by the
> ->front door in that complete android catatonic stupor where they look like
> ->the Yul Bryner robot from 'Westworld' when he blew a headpipe and iced
> ->Marcus Welby's assistant. "Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye." It's like your
> ->stockbroker on Thorazine or something.
> ->
> ->And am I the only one who likes to get on a plane and unwind with a good
> ->book? Sit there in a little peace and quiet. I'm constantly in
> ->conversation with complete strangers - always being approached by these
> ->overly ebullient Jonathan Livingston Human types. This eighteen-year-old
> ->kid who's on his way back from Aruba and wants to show me this skull bong
> ->he purchased there that's carved out of volcanic rock. You know he's
> ->always got a dream he wants me to interpret for him. What am I, Queequeg?
> ->And you're afraid to not talk to him. You never know who the fucking
> ->terrorist is on the plane. I'd hate to alienate anybody who's looking
> ->for a prom date to Valhalla.
> ->
> ->There's a lot of terrorism in the air, but you know when you walk through
> ->the air terminal and see the crack security people manning the perimeter,
> ->I think we all sleep the sleep of angels. Came into Phoenix the other
> ->day, the woman working the X-ray machine had the attention span of Boo
> ->Radley. She's sitting there like Captain Pike from "Star Trek." She had
> ->a channel flicker. She's watching baggage from other airports, for
> ->Christ's sake.
> ->
> ->You think pilots make fun of those guys who bring them the last ten feet
> ->into the terminal with those cone flashlights? "Well, thank you, Vasco
> ->da Gamma. I kited in from Malaysia, you're going to take me the last
> ->furlong, Captain Eveready. I hope you don't blow a D-cell. I'd hate to
> ->be stuck out here in the Bermuda Tarmac for the rest of my life."
> ->
> ->What about those masks that drop down in the event of decompression?
> ->That's a pretty flimsy-looking apparatus, isn't it? Doesn't this look
> ->remarkably like a Parkay margarine cup on the end of an enema bag or
> ->something? They always have these bizarre instructions to start the flow
> ->of oxygen. "Tug down lightly on the cord." Yeah, you know when I'm
> ->shoulder-rolling at seven hundred miles per hour, "lightly" just isn't in
> ->my fucking vocabulary, all right? You know people are going to be
> ->Conaning those things right off the bulkhead. Something intrinsically
> ->cruel having the last forty seconds of your life turn into a "Lucy" skit.
> ->
> ->I think instead of oxygen, they ought to pump in nitrous oxide. This way,
> ->if the plane does wreck - that first rescue team comes onto the scene -
> ->you're up in a tree still strapped in your seat just laughing your ass
> ->off. Guys say, "Bobby, get over here. Look how hip this guy is. I mean,
> ->he's naked, he's blue, he's howling. This cat is centered, huh?"
> ->
> ->You know what I hate is when you're sitting in coach class and they pull
> ->that curtain on first class. Oh, I see, they paid and extra forty dollars
> ->and I'm a fucking leper. I always get the feeling that if the plane's
> ->about to wreck, the front compartment breaks off into a little Goldfinger
> ->miniplane. They're on their way to Rio and I'm a charcoal briquette on
> ->the ground.
> ->
> ->You know who I feel sorry for in the whole air-travel scenario? It's the
> ->poor bastard who has to drive the jetway. You know that little accordion
> ->tentacle that weaves its way out to meet the plane? Everybody else is
> ->Waldo Pepperin' around in their Bobby Lansing leather bomber jackets, the
> ->right stuff coursing through their veins as they push the outside of the
> ->envelope. Your job is to drive the building.
> ->
> ->A lot of qualifications to sit next to that exit door, huh? When did that
> ->happen? I've been a physical klutz for years. I'm like Clouseau.
> ->Nobody's ever said a word. All of a sudden they want me to be a fucking
> ->Navy SEAL. I guess they want to be sure the person sitting there doesn't
> ->panic in the event that the plane goes down in water. Item number 8 on
> ->the qualification list was "You must not be Ted Kennedy."
> ->
> ->Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
> ->
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Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 14:57:00 -0400
From: btomko@glasscity.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: stuff
Message-ID: <B0000551948@home.glasscity.net>
Does anyone know where I can get in touch with Dan Lakin (a bass
maker/dealer) and Traktor Marketing (the people who sell the used Sticks)?
I'm thinking it's time to sell the ol' worn Fender.
I just bought THRaKaTTaK. It's awesome. I can scare the neighbors
with this one. I also got the new Jonas Hellborg cd, "Temporal Analogues of
Paradise". It's with Shawn Lane and Apt. Q-258. This thing kicks some
serious aRSE.
I had tickets to the Toledo Rush show, but it got cancelled because
they couldn't get their damn vid screen in the door. I did, however, manage
to get some good seats to see Phish on Nov. 9 at the Palace.
This'll be my last plug for my website for awhile. It's just been
finished, and, despite bugs I'm still finding, pretty neat. I'd appreciate
some comments or three.
Mark Tomko
spector@dreamt.org
Keeper of The Website at the End of the Universe
http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/8243/index.html
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:52:02 +0000
From: Tim Spear <veilmaya@dircon.co.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: crashing at the con
Message-ID: <l03010505ae80610a915b@[194.112.35.39]>
ok..
i need to find a place to crash also after the con..
im well up for seeing power windows or whatever afterwards but it'll be
nigh on impossible to find my way back to new jersey after about 8pm i
think?
im just guessing this, being sort of from out of err town!
if anyone can help me out, mail us!
cheers n beers
Speak soon, Tim.
PLEASE NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: VEILMAYA@DIRCON.CO.UK
New Web Site: http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~veilmaya/
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:45:42 +0000
From: Tim Spear <veilmaya@dircon.co.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1909
Message-ID: <l03010504ae805e91fc97@[194.112.35.39]>
Here is a FAQ:
>
>Why did James LaBrie leave the stage at one of the England shows leaving
>Mike to sing the end of Surrounded?
>
>Here is the FGA (Frequently Given Answer):
>
>Because a drunk guy in the audience kept shouting out during the quiet
>parts of the song. James repeatedly asked him to be quiet, but he refused.
>James lost his temper and left the stage. I know someone who was actually
>there, and he said that James actually jumped into the crowd to go after
>the guy, but this is entirely unverified ;-)
i wanna make it clear, it was NOT me! I know i did alot of shouting at the
london shows, but this incident wasnt in london.
> Amen to what Pat said... the con will be a blast whether or not DT
>is there!!
yup, it doesnt bother me that dt aren't going..i wanna meet all the jammers
and have a blast.
>
> D-Man: I e-mailed you about this too, but this is for everyone! I
>have a room with 2 beds, and only 1 occupant (my traveling companions
>couldn't make it). Anyone want to split the cost of Saturday night
>lodging? Make it cheap for ya...
>
mike,
im up for that too... ill spllit the cost with ya dude..
Speak soon, Tim.
PLEASE NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: VEILMAYA@DIRCON.CO.UK
New Web Site: http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~veilmaya/
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Date: Tue, 08 Oct 96 09:11:43 PST
From: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YtseCon I
Message-ID: <9609088448.AA844801934@CCGATE.HAC.COM>
>Actually the best part of the first Con for me was getting to meet
>everybody that I was writing to and watching Mike Portnoy hustle his butt
>across the room to get Marlene a brownie (does anybody else remember
>that?) - that was funny.
Yes, that was good... But Mike trying to get everybody to take a shot
of Jagermeister was pretty good too...
But the best part was terrorizing the hotel wedding reception
afterwards <G>....
>No wait a minute, really the best part was after Mike P played the tape of
>ACoS and when it was finished he nabbed the tape saying "I'd better grab
>this before someone else does..."
Or when Derek turned down the volume during the "Mercy Fuck" section.
<G>
~Mike
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 12:16:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: King's X
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.961008121039.73044F-100000@homer08.u.washington.edu>
> From: pgor@netcom.com (Paul Goracke)
> Subject: Seattle G3!
>
> Finally! The G3 Tour is coming to Seattle!
(nice to see my reminder made it through, but I wouldn't have bothered had
I known Paul was already on top of things!)
> (now, if we can just get Rush and King's X to swing through...)
Speaking of King's X, I saw them twice in Maryland this past summer, and
they mentioned they were going to hit the Northwest on this tour. They
specifically mentioned the city "Seattle." Keep your fingers crossed.
Before you ask about the setlist...
Everything from Ear Candy EXCEPT "American Cheese." (no piano, oh well)
"Dogman" from Dogman. "Black Flag" and "Lost In Germany" from King's X.
"It's Love" from FHL. "Over My Head," "Summerland," and "Pleadies" from
Gretchen. No songs from OOTSP were played. Two optional songs on an encore
sheet I noticed in a roadie's hand, but still unplayed at the two shows I
attended, were "Manic Depression" and "Moanjam."
And if you haven't seen Jerry Gaskill drum, you're in for a treat. Pretend
the drums are directly in front of you. Now turn your head so you are
looking directly to your left, but keep your shoulders facing forward.
Count out the rhythm of your drumbeat, and on each count, "1, 2, 3, 4,"
sporadically jerk your head even further to the left as if you've just
been slapped. Close your eyes halfway and look upwards. Now hold your jaws
closed while moving your lips as if you're conversing with your drumkit.
Voila. You're Jerry Gaskill. Hey, he rocks, but when he started getting
into the opener ("The Train") I thought he was having a malfunction of
some sort. He really looked like he was either going into a seizure or too
tired to play but the snare hits kept waking him up, thus the constantly
jerking head.
(and if you're really lucky you might get to hear Doug Pinnick do a
spontaneous vocal performance, a la "Sometimes I fee-ee-e-e-eeel... like
a... MWOOAAAH-THAH-LUSSS chiiild.")
---- > From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu> > Subject: King's X > > Someone asked if it was true that King's X was dropped from > Atlantic Records. It's true. I work for Atlantic and was very pissed > when I heard it. Hopefully they'll sign a deal with a label that knows > how to promote a band of such talent.When was this statement issued? In August the guys were reassuring everyone after the shows that they were not dropped, no such thing, just a rumor, etc. Did Atlantic drop them last week or something?
---- > From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry) > Subject: Wham! > > In hockey, if you touch an official, you can be gone for 10 games > with no problem.
In boxing, if you touch an official by cutting them down with a fast hook, they can be gone.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 12:20:31 -0700 (MST) From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: clarification Message-ID: <199610081920.MAA29239@goodguy.goodnet.com>
To clarify: I have a 2-bed hotel room already paid for, for Friday night. So it's basically open to he (or she) who needs it. (well, maybe not she... because Melissa might get upset).
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - Scoobaca RULES!
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:21:50 -0300 From: Jaime Kimpton <jaimekimpton@vwc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Metropolis Watch update/major delay Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19961008152255.0ec78c46@mailhost.vwc.edu>
Greetings folks...
I'm not sure as to whether or not there will be a fall issue of the fanzine. Shortly after I published the summer issue, my printer crashed (something about the polarity of the motor reversing) and the two closest repair shops for the model are in Richmond and Fairfax - about 2 and 3.5 hours away from Norfolk, respectively. That wouldn't have been a problem; I know people here with spiffy laserjet printers that I could have used until I got the fundage to repair or replace mine.
About a week and a half ago, my entire *computer* crashed. My mother was trying to free up enough space so I could upgrade my version of DOS, but evidently she deleted something she wasn't supposed to (along with about 90% of my software, being that I don't have a whole hell of a lot of memory to begin with), because now I can't even BOOT the damn thing, and I'm in the process of trying to get DOS 5.0 on a 5.25" disk... not even sure if that will work, but right now that's my only option. If not, I'm pretty much screwed until Thanksgiving at the very earliest, maybe until Christmas, because neither I nor my family has the money to get it fixed right now. Even if I somehow get my computer to boot, I have to reload most of my software, including the program I use to create the fanzine, the disks for which I do not have here at college with me.
No, Jaime has not been having a very good year with computers. Almost destroyed my monitor last Thanksgiving, my 3.5" drive got scratched in the spring when a cheapshit disk left the metal thingie behind and had to be pulled out, and my computer has been acting really strange for at least a year... no, things are not going well electronically.
Anyway, as you can see, it's going to be virtually impossible for me to publish the fanzine right now, unless some miracle happens.
However, people are still more than welcome to send me submissions for whenever I do get back in gear - I still have my school account, and I have lots and lots of disks on which to save material.
(Too bad I didn't do that before my mother started messing around with my computer, since I've basically lost all 250 pages of a manuscript I've been working on for several years, and I have maybe a third of the most recent edits printed)
arrrrrrrghhh...
Jaime the Dragon, irritated at all things electronic...
"It's only water drowning me..." Toy Matinee
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Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 16:03:49 -0400 From: psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Rush in MA, Ytsecon Message-ID: <199610082008.QAA24404@uhura.ici.net>
>I have heard through the local rock radio station that Rush WILL be at >the Fleet Center on November 9th. The show starts I believe at 7:30 pm. >Tickets will go on sale this Saturday at 10 a.m. They are between $25-$35 >each. I'll be there!! See you all New Englandites at the Rush show!
How *dare* they put the tickets on sale the day of the 'con! Now I have to find a friend who *isn't* a DT fan to camp out for tickets while I'm at the con.
Wow...
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Re: Ytsecon
I agree that the possibility of the band showing up was always secondary in my mind to the privilege(heh) of meeting REAL LIVE YTSEJAMMERS in person. If anyone needs me, I'll be staying at the Marriott that weekend, if you catch me early Friday afternoon I should be sober, but after that, I'm not making any promises. :)
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Date: 08 Oct 96 From: CPRS92A@prodigy.com (MR JAN-MICHAEL SOUTER) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Classy Jammer Message-ID: <199610081944.PAA19710@mime3.prodigy.com>
-- [ From: Jan-Michael Souter * EMC.Ver #2.5.1 ] --
> From: kurt@fgallery.com > Subject: Classy Jammer
> Hey...id just like to make known a very classy action by a cool > jammer called Jan-Michael Souter, he had dubbed me acoustic dreams. > and the very first day my car stereo ate it... then i told him > (not expecting him to do anything since it wasn't his fault at all) > Today i received another copy...completely unsolicited... man > i have to say this guy has class.. thanx for the tape souter!
Wow, thanks Kurt !! I'm just -now- getting around to reading this message you posted way back in September :) Yep, I read ALL of the jams. Even right now when there are at least 60 in front of the one I'm reading now.
Heard this morning on Howard Stern's show in the news segment that Gary from Extreme is officially in the band just waiting on a few legal issues to be cleared up. Looks like we got the scoop on this one pretty early. I LOVE this DT list :) Guess I'll have to dig out my 1 or 2 Extreme cassettes (augh) and give them another listen. Never got into Extreme and with that said, I probably won't get into the 'new' Van Halen, either. Oh well.
Heard a rumor that VINCE NEIL has re-joined Motley Crue and are planning a tour.... Now that I will go see !! But it's just a rumor that I hope comes true. I'm so far behind on reading jams that this has probably already been brought up and hashed already. On with the Jam !
Jan-Michael
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