YTSEJAM Digest 1911
Today's Topics:
1) Videos & Ytsecon
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
2) Re: DT International Fan Club
by Neil Elliott <101352.3261@CompuServe.COM>
3) drum solos
by mike olekshy <mmo@direct.ca>
4) Three Days!
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
5) Room at the hotel
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
6) The next album....
by te95mne@student.hgs.se (MIKA NUMMINEN)
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1908
by Henrik Gustafsson <henrik@thn.htu.se>
8)
by Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
9) Re: fan club
by bosox1@ix.netcom.com (Craig Moran)
10) Re: skid row
by Andrew Berry <andy@aberry.demon.co.uk>
11) solo in OLIVER'S TWIST = solo in EROTOMANIA
by richard@capitale.qc.ca (Richard James)
12) Rush @ Fleet Center!!!
by Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu>
13) Lady Di to join Dream Theater
by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
14) Con and stuff...
by John Mastin <johnny@psa.pencom.com>
15) Re: a FAQ, a Band I Have Never Heard Of, and A New Me
by Wessel Marquering <Wessel.Marquering@econ.kuleuven.ac.be>
16) ?????
by "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaserla.fi>
17) A change of email!
by Hans-Christian Nilsen <johnnil@sn.no>
18) The CDCellar
by Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
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Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:53:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Videos & Ytsecon
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.961007210459.29668F-100000@homer18.u.washington.edu>
> From: Mike Estok <estok@teleport.com>
> Subject: New and exciting thread!
>
> I got a cool idea - How about this question?
>
> If you could make a music video for any Dream Theater song,
> which one would it be, and how would you do it?
"Long Island Expressway" from Acoustic Dreams. The boys would all be
sitting on the back of a flatbed truck, cruising down the expressway. All
dressed as progressive-metal beatniks. All seated cross-legged. Large
bonfire in the middle. Perhaps some real scenes of the cordial environment
known as Any Highway In New York would add drama and dignity to the
overall project, as well as a touch of nostalgia for those who have since
left the NY area...
Perhaps a few shots of 18-wheelers with large silver Bulldogs on their
hoods, people flipping each other off, police pulling people over for
speeding/cursing/driving, people waving firearms out their windows,
18-wheelers jacknifing all over the place, police flipping each other off,
police waving firearms out their windows, etc. Sherinian would be roasting
marshmallows or chestnuts or something since there are no keyboards in
this song. Portnoy would be smoking. LaBrie could do his parts just by
screaming at passing cars. This would attract little attention as the
usual backdrop of screams and threats encountered while driving anywhere
in New York would camouflage it completely.
Yes sir, Dream Theater could SWEEP the MTV video music awards if only they
would come around to my way of thinking. :)
> When "death the first dance eternal" is released, they could maybe have
> a big bomb drop and a bunch of people would die.
Then right after the line "somewhere, like a scene from a memory" they
could superimpose Mike Bahr into the video, doing his LaBrie-choreography
impressions, lip synching to the backup line, "scene from a memory," while
simultaneously waving a copy of the actual cd he put together right in the
camera... (advertising, people, think! THINK!!)
> Then, with deceit, I don't know, people fighting and lying to each other
> or something.
For this they could just grab some footage of the audience during the
Birch Hill show.
Come to think of it, that same footage could probably be used for the
"swimming in a lake of fire" line, too... Or some shots of the band in a
200-meter butterfly relay through laplanes of fire.
> Then comes the big bang...the instrumental portion.
Are you telling me that before the existence of the universe, The Void was
busy laying down vocal tracks?
> "Back when I was in University, I used to beat up hippies during lunch
> break."
> -my history teacher, October 1, 1996.
Oh-HO, so we've opened up the doors to allow TEACHERS to be quoted along
with our favorite bands???
"He was ahead of his time. If he were alive today he could probably get a
job working at Disney."
-my psychology teacher, October 1, 1996 (on Rene Descartes)
---- > From: John Dea <jdea@creighton.edu> > Subject: Re: Glad He's Dead > > Well said, Babs. Thank you for those words. It chills me to think > that there are people out there who take joy in someone's death.It chills me to think that there are people out there.
---- > From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> > Subject: Disappointing > > You know, I am reading more and more and hearing more and more about > who can't make it to the con. This is disturbing.
Hey Damon. I can't make it to the con.
:)
> come on, if Mike Bahr can come from across the country, then why can't > the rest of you?
Are we supposed to guess? Uh... Mike Bahr doesn't have a job. Mike Bahr isn't in school taking 18 credits of classes. Mike Bahr isn't busy crafting new changes with his eyes. Mike Bahr didn't just drive from Bethesda, MD, to Seattle, WA, and feels rather peppy about travelling across the country. Or maybe it's just that Mike Bahr has more power than Donald Trump and Pat Choate put together.
Bafu Vai
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Date: 08 Oct 96 02:08:51 EDT From: Neil Elliott <101352.3261@CompuServe.COM> To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: DT International Fan Club Message-ID: <961008060850_101352.3261_JHP54-1@CompuServe.COM>
Just a reminder to those people who wanted to know how to join the International Fan Club.
E-mail me on: 101352.3261@compuserve.com
and I'll send you the details.
As has been mentioned several times already, if you're gonna do it, do it before December,or you're gonna miss out.
Cheers,
Neil Elliott Director - DTIFC
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Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:53:08 -0700 From: mike olekshy <mmo@direct.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: drum solos Message-ID: <96Oct7.235311-0700pdt.270042-270+577@aphex.direct.ca>
Yeah, I always look forward to a good long drum solo..... its a great opportunity to go to the can.
mmo
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Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:56:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Three Days! Message-ID: <199610080656.AA12879@crl2.crl.com>
Well, only three days and counting 'til Y'Con III.
I'm looking forward to it. Whether or not anyone from the band is there, it'll be good to see some old friends from Y'con II and meet some new ones.
My airfare, all $201, is nonrefundable. Someone asked me on IRC if, had my airfare been refundable, I would cancel it (and the entire trip) since it appeared DT wouldn't be there. I thought about it and said "Nahhh." DT fans are among the coolest music fans -- or just people -- around!
I'm looking forward to three days in NY and I'm hoping to hook up with anyone arriving Fridayish and leaving Mondayish. I'm sure there's some trouble we can get into, places we can explore.....
-- Paul W. Cashman, vanyel@crl.com Rush Dream Theater KoRn Bonedance --- www.crl.com/~vanyel ------ Metallica Ozrics Enya Superior Mutha's Day Out Sisters of Mercy Dead Can Dance Blue Oyster Cult "You can find all you need in your mind / If you take the time.." -DT
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 00:11:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Room at the hotel Message-ID: <199610080711.AA13039@crl2.crl.com>
Mike Bahr, we have a hotel room there (two of us) and you could crash with us if you'd like, to save on costs.
If we need a meeting point on Sat. night, my room (also under Chris Oates' name) might suffice. For $100, might as well get -some- use out of it. :)
Someone give Damon a ride, sheesh!
Merlo: Taco Bell? Should be safe from sudden disappearances.... hehehe
-- Paul W. Cashman, vanyel@crl.com Rush Dream Theater KoRn Bonedance --- www.crl.com/~vanyel ------ Metallica Ozrics Enya Superior Mutha's Day Out Sisters of Mercy Dead Can Dance Blue Oyster Cult "You can find all you need in your mind / If you take the time.." -DT
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Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 10:27:01 +0200 From: te95mne@student.hgs.se (MIKA NUMMINEN) To: The end of the world as we know it <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The next album.... Message-ID: <199610080826.KAA18793@adeptus.student.hgs.se>
Howdy jammerz!
Here's my vision of the new DT album:
It'll be a double CD (Yeah, I know they said they won't do it but...), on CD is normal audio with like 80 mins crammed on.... And the second one is a CD-rom for PC and Macintosh with the video for the first single, and some clips from the studio, perhaps an interview (Uuhhh, better stop druling.....) and so on....
I could settle for a normal double audio-CD though.... :)
Uuuhh, better stop dreaming and get some work done......
Cheers,
Mika Numminen, aka Viking
MAIL: te95mne@student.hgs.se URL: http://www.hgs.se/~te95mne ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you."
Nietzsche "Beyond good and evil" ------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 96 12:30 DFT From: Henrik Gustafsson <henrik@thn.htu.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1908 Message-ID: <m0vAZQm-0002kvC@tellus.thn.htu.se>
Has the thing double-sided CD=B4s reached the market yet !?!
>From: "Miguel Farah F." <miguel@ns.rdc.cl> >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: 92 minutes of music? > >I saw the two new song titles -which I didn't expect-. This makes me >think: there were 73 minutes of music, and now there are 92...=20 -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Henrik Gustafsson Quality deployer
henrik@thn.htu.se +46 (0)520 47 50 49 (fax +46 (0)520 47 50 98)
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Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 07:42:14 -0600 From: Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <325A5A36.7553@mo.net>
HEY!!! I got some kewl CDs the other day I ordered (2112, Chronicles, Dead Winter Dead, Fates' No Exit (I thought I ordered Paralells, but this is cool, too, I guess. I haven;t listened to it yet), and some others). I'll be kept busy listening here for a while. Later all.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 05:51:39 -0700 From: bosox1@ix.netcom.com (Craig Moran) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: fan club Message-ID: <199610081251.FAA03058@dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com>
the fan club that everyone was suggested to join, is that the official "Dream Theater International Fan Club" located at midtown station in ny, ny?
could someone please reply? thanks.
craig
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Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 10:09:33 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Berry <andy@aberry.demon.co.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: skid row Message-ID: <Marcel-1.08-1008090933-b49evuQ@aberry.demon.co.uk>
On Mon 07 Oct, BRENDEN R. THOMSON wrote:
> > "Subhuman Race" is their worst album by far.
Thanks goodness someone agrees with me here! I'm not normally into the Skid Row type music, but I thought their debut was good and "Slave to the Grind" was awesome. I bought the new one when it came out and was *very* disappointed.
> Actually Sebastian > doesn't do much singing at all on this album. This guy has a really > good voice - it's just a pity he doesn't use it on this album. This > album has that shitty grunge sound on too many songs - maybe that's > why he doesn't sing like he used to!
Yep. It's the general sound which makes the album so bad. The guitar and drum sounds aren't a patch on "Slave to the Grind". It seems as though Skid Row were trying to lose the glam image but I really can't stand the grunge sound they use on the new album.
I can't really understand why so many people like it, although if you're into the grunge stuff I suppose you would prefer it to the first two albums.
I sold my copy after a month.
Cheers, -- +---- Andrew Berry --------------------- http://www.aberry.demon.co.uk ----+ | Metal Links - 1195 links to 548 metal bands' pages across the internet | +--------------- http://www.aberry.demon.co.uk/metallist/ -----------------+ +- URLs wanted to be added to the list - mailto:andrew@aberry.demon.co.uk -+
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 09:12:40 +0500 From: richard@capitale.qc.ca (Richard James) To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: durnik@goodnet.com Subject: solo in OLIVER'S TWIST = solo in EROTOMANIA Message-ID: <9610081312.AA02563@jason.qc.ca>
maybe somebody had already mentionned it but the solo at 6:50 in Oliver's twist (new part) is the same solo that we have in erotomania
rj
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 09:39:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Rush @ Fleet Center!!! Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91a.961008093607.6942D-100000@christa.unh.edu>
I have heard through the local rock radio station that Rush WILL be at the Fleet Center on November 9th. The show starts I believe at 7:30 pm. Tickets will go on sale this Saturday at 10 a.m. They are between $25-$35 each. I'll be there!! See you all New Englandites at the Rush show!
Tony
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 96 15:54:11 +0200 From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de Subject: Lady Di to join Dream Theater Message-ID: <9610081354.AA00340@sundoc13.software-ag.de>
Hi all
a bit later than I expected, but I promised a report of the Out Of The Dark concert that I went to last week, so here it is.
ROTTING CHRIST Can't say anything about them, because I got held up in a big traffic jam on the way. Does anybody know anything about them?
THEATRE OF TRAGEDY Orgasmic. The contrast between the two singers (she: soprano, he: gothic metal grunter) is even greater live than on the albums. They played a set of about 45 minutes, mixing a couple of older things together with lots from the new album. Beautiful, melodic doom/gothic metal, very atmospheric, and vocals that give your goose pimples goose pimples. If any of you ever get the chance to see this band, do yourselves a huge favour. I also got my CDs autographed by the whole band (the female singer is just so cute -nearly got trouble with my girlfriend for looking at her too much when they were on stage).
MOONSPELL Like Theatre of Tragedy, they featured the new album heavily. A lot darker than Theatre of Tragedy, but musically just as good. They put on more a of a show, and the audience got more involved. The show and the back projections reminded me a lot of Tiamat live. Once again, my CDs were autographed by the whole band. Nice guys, too.
SAMAEL Brutal and powerful and excellent. The keyboarder, XY, plays keyboards, operates/programs the drum machines and plays drums. This guy reminded me more of Animal from the Muppets than even Mike Protnoy does. It was impossible not to move around to this music, so much power, hardness, drive and aggression. Let the sweat run. Also a great light show. Guess what: my autographing pen (special silver ink) did some more work.
GOREFEST Sounded like Thin Lizzy meets Motorhead. Yuk. The singer sounded like every note have to battle its way through six inches of phlegm before it could drop out of his mouth. I left after half an hour and another beer. No autographs this time.
As always in this club, the sound was excellent. Just another 17 days before I see Superior and Angra at the same venue (eat your hearts out, suckers). Just to really rub it in, Stratovarius and Rage will be playing there this weekend and I've nearly talked myself into going.
No responses yet about my proposed Ytsejam Album Of The Year poll. Let me know asap if you are interested, so that I can make my plans more concrete.
'nuff said for today.
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag) Currently playing: Pantera - The Great Southern Trendkill
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:57:52 -0500 (CDT) From: John Mastin <johnny@psa.pencom.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Con and stuff... Message-ID: <199610081357.IAA22759@psa.pencom.com>
Well, most of this is about the Con. :D
Some people are upset because DT may not be at the Con. You are missing the point as Pat said. It would be nice to have the "honored guests" but the Con is a gathering of the members (and non-member) to gig together. They are invited, just like you. If you cannot make it because of one reason or another, the rest of us aren't pissed. We understand. We should take that stance with DT. If they can make it, I'm sure they'd like to be there. If they can't, they can't. Afterall, not every cast member makes it to all of the Star Trek conventions. I know that there are many people who risked reputation, money as well as time and effort on organizing this. It wouldn't be nice to pull out just because someone isn't going to show. We're all above that sort of game or at least should be. Yes, money doesn't grow on trees and the expense can be high to go depending on where you are coming from. But don't go to the Con with the wrong ideas. It isn't a press meet and greet with the band members. It is a gathering of a group of friends that have a common interest. Face it. This list is like a giant group of penpals. Modern technology has made it so that we don't have to wait for days (or weeks) for the next message. In many cases, members have not met each other or only on a limited basis. This is an opportunty to come out and meet your penpals. Take the opportunity as such.
I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna meet up with some old and new friends. If I meet DT, that will be an added bonus but if they are not there, I will group them with the other friends who just could not make it this time around. ;-)
I plan on bringing some stuff (depends on what I wrestle from NEC for the weekend.) that will help make this Con an event to remember.
Johnny Motown
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Date: Tue, 08 Oct 96 16:42:00 DFT From: Wessel Marquering <Wessel.Marquering@econ.kuleuven.ac.be> To: "'jitseejam@aks.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: a FAQ, a Band I Have Never Heard Of, and A New Me Message-ID: <325A6B75@econmsmail.kuleuven.ac.be>
Graham Borland <graham@grelb.src.gla.ac.uk> wrote on Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:35:36 +0100 (BST)
>Hi guys :-) > >Here is a FAQ: > >Why did James LaBrie leave the stage at one of the England shows leaving >Mike to sing the end of Surrounded? > >Here is the FGA (Frequently Given Answer): > >Because a drunk guy in the audience kept shouting out during the quiet >parts of the song. James repeatedly asked him to be quiet, but he refused. >James lost his temper and left the stage. I know someone who was actually >there, and he said that James actually jumped into the crowd to go after >the guy, but this is entirely unverified ;-) > >Wanna stick this in the FAQ, Chris?
This not true! I happened to be at that concert (in Nottingham). You were right about that drunk guy shouting and singing during the quiet parts of Surrounded, but James did NOT jump into the crowd. He walked off the stage after singing "...I know it's easier to walk away" and dropped his microphone. The crowd started to laugh, but got worried when he didn't show up again. Mike started to sing a short passage of Surrounded (didn't sound too good however;) ). After that DT had to play 3 instrumentals. But let's forget about this, it happened 4 years ago... Reliving stabs of the past...
Wessel Marquering
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Date: 8 Oct 96 17:43:10 +0200 From: "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaserla.fi> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ????? Message-ID: <9610081743.aa10@tppalv2.metsaserla.fi>
'Ello Jamanoids...
Has anyone recently gotten the CDs they've ordered from Tim Lodge? I know we've been over this before, but I doubt anyone has gotten anything since the last time we discussed this?
Is there any real chance anyone gets their CDs from him anymore? Or do we need a "silent man"? Volunteers?
Rapidly getting very p****d off...
_Mape_
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:03:05 +0200 From: Hans-Christian Nilsen <johnnil@sn.no> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: A change of email! Message-ID: <199610081603.SAA25374@hasle.sn.no>
Hello! It's been a while since I've had my mail program working, but now, finally everything is okay. But there has been a small change.. My email adress has changed. It used to be <aagnilse@telepost.no> but is has been changed to <johnnil@sn.no> I would appreciate it if this could be changed so that I still can be able to read the ytsejam digest. I've lost the first mail, where my code for the digest is, so.....well I don't know..
Thanks, Hans Christian Nilsen
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 12:28:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu> To: the cool people <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The CDCellar Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.961008122334.25177A-100000@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Hi folks-
Let me ask you a question about The CDCellar, a place that specializes in bootlegs and imports (in Ohio). I sent in money for a double Rush CD called "mirrors" about a month and a half ago and I never got my CD. It's weird because I ordered a Queensryche CD from this place back in July and it came to my house nine days later. So I'm curious (and worried) about why it's taking so damn long for the Rush CD. If anyone can shed some light on this place or anything, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
Brandon (Taco Belhai)
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