YTSEJAM Digest 1803
Today's Topics:
1) Fortunate things for Brits/other notes
by Jennifer <jenibear@gvn.net>
2) Ass hair.
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@bu.edu>
3) Autoreply Message
by svjohnson@amoco.com
4) Re: New songs that will be good!
by Galactic Cowboy <belhai@drew.edu>
5) late night
by Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
6) GW - JP
by "Susan Ostroske" <spatz13@msn.com>
7) Mike Bahr
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
8)
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
9) Venus Isle vs Freddy Jones Band
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
10) Prog Nite 9/4
by Matthew Erwich <merwich@interport.net>
11) catch-up on Superior
by fini@eci1.ucsb.edu (Paul T. Fini)
12) RUSH's release.
by Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu>
13) James Murphy / DT new album stopwatch
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
14) Re: Portnoy Clinic / DT double CD / Portnoy shaved ;)
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
15) BL
by akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch
16) SG and Stuph
by akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch
17) Just a quickie ...
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 96 21:34:07 -0000
From: Jennifer <jenibear@gvn.net>
To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Fortunate things for Brits/other notes
Message-ID: <199609050433.VAA29781@mindcrime.ax.com>
Comments in Ytsejam #1796:
>4) On about lack of DT material etc - spare a thought for us.I managed to
>see
>them live 3 times on the I&W tour but they only played ONE gig in England +
>the Ronnie Scott show for the Awake album. Both of these were in London. Now
>it might be a shock to some of you abroad but most of the population of
>England doesn't live in London! Although I know the lack of Dates wasnt DT's
>fault it doesnt make it any better!
Okay, maybe it doesn't compare when the only shows are in London, but I
would think a lot of Americans would have liked to be in attendance for
the Ronnie Scott's gig. I think it was a side of DT no one had really
been able to see before.
>5) I've noticed a couple of references to Red Dwarf on the Jam - I didn't
>realise you got Top Class British comedy like this in the US. We used to be
>the best at making Rock Music but we still rule the world when it comes to
>comedy. Do you get or have you seen any of these other top comedies in
>US?? :
>Dads Army, Fawlty Towers, One Foot in The Grave, In Sickness and in Health,
>Only Fools and Horses?? P.s.A new series of Red Dwarf is in production as I
>write!
Personally, I am partial to the likes of "Fawlty Towers," "Mr. Bean,"
"Whose Line is It Anyway?", and "French and Saunders."
It looks like I now have a line on the best place in town for prog...
Keith has befriended someone at work with a huge passion for prog. Last
night, we visited with this guy, and he played stuff I'd maybe heard of,
but not heard, like Djam Karet and 801. That makes me a bit of a happy
camper...although my CD "wish list" has grown to gargantuan proportions!
<g>
Jen
o.-.o "This is perhaps the greatest lesson we learned from
((^)) our patients: LIVE, so you do not have to look
O) _ (O back and say, 'God, how I have wasted my life!'"
O/ \O -- Elisabeth Kubler-Ross
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Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 00:33:04 -0400
From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@bu.edu>
To: Da Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Ass hair.
Message-ID: <322E5800.24C0@bu.edu>
The Digital Man asked me:
>> How the *hell* do you know how long Murphy's ass hair is??? :)
Well, the last time James and I were sitting around discussing dingleberries,
it came up. It's a well known fact that if you're gonna talk about dingleberries,
you're gonna talk about ass hair, and the length thereof. Technically, I really
don't know how long his ass hair is. When we got to the self-examination part of our
discussion, we just couldn't find a ruler. Don't you just hate it when you want to
measure your ass hair but have no instruments?
So, to answer your question, I simply do not know. Maybe it'll come up in
next week's discussion. Until then.....
--Brian Wherry Boston University Computer Engineering '98 bwherry@bu.edu http://acs.bu.edu:8001/~bwherry/home.html
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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 96 23:37:50 -0500 From: svjohnson@amoco.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Autoreply Message Message-ID: <199609050438.AA01153@interlock.amoco.com>
Item Subject: Auto Reply content. I will be on vacation until Monday, September 9. On the 9th and 10th I will be on official business. If it is urgent, please contact Neil Geary at (312) 856-5373. I will be returning calls/messages on Wednesday, September 11.
Steve
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Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 01:27:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Galactic Cowboy <belhai@drew.edu> To: the cool people <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: New songs that will be good! Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.960905012553.583104361C-100000@drew.edu>
> BTW, today I saw some guy witha "XANADU" license plate. > Interesting.....
Was this guy from Delaware because I saw a "xanadu" license plate from there. I don't know if it's related to Rush though. It could be that Olivia Newton John movie.
Brandon
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Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 00:51:40 -0600 From: Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: late night Message-ID: <322E787C.658@mo.net>
COOL!!!! The Max Weinberg Seven (good band - they always look like they're having a good time up there) is playing "Paranoid." Yes, the Sabbath tune (probably my fave Sabbath tune). Hey, maybe there's a metal fan somewhere on the show (maybe not prog, but it's a start :). I'm not taking sides on the tribute thing, but I do know the KISS tribute most certainly did not kill their career (I'm not saying it helped, either - I wasn't all that impressed with what I heard on it, though it was, well, interesting).
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 96 06:11:05 UT From: "Susan Ostroske" <spatz13@msn.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: GW - JP Message-ID: <UPMAIL08.199609050609460346@msn.com>
>Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 18:43:29 -0500 >From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org> >Subject: GW - JP
>cover, but John don't even do Wild Stringdom anymore! Eric Johnson is >taking over now. Anyways at least Petrucci finished up with that big Chopin
Actually... Eric was the original author of "Wild Stringdom." SOME of us were too stupid when John took over to think it was a good thing. :( Oh well, I have every issue of the darn thing from '91 on... I can prolly pul back issues and find ZILLIONS of things I didn't learn the first time. :)
Suz
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 09:35:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Mike Bahr Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960905093404.1206B-100000@bdmserver>
Didn't Mike Bahr do that Rush montage thing way way way back? I dont think I ever finished watching that video. Maybe I should finish it along with all my other boot videos....
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Hail to the Redskins, Hail Victory!!!!!!!! 0-1 | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| Go Orioles-Playoff bound in 1996!!!
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Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 14:58:55 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <322EEAAE.794B@mailstorm.dot.gov>
> From: Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu> > Subject: Re: Rush
> ...outside of New York and Chicago, I'd be surprised if Rush got a lot > of airplay anywhere...
Surprise! :)
They play 'em often enough here in Boston (I hear them on several New Hampshire stations that I can pick up down here). Also, he other night I heard a special on 102.9 where they had some interviews with Alex. Good stuff!
> From: Randall Braun <RBraun@tlr.ameridata.com> > Subject: Tull/ELP in concert
> Martin Barre is an often overlooked, but very good guitarist.
Absolutely! I saw the Bursting Out tour as well. Very tight.
> ELP can put on quite a show.
I saw ELP in the mid 70's, exploding synthesizer and all. I heard that before the age of the synthesized keyboard, Keith used to stab his analog organ to get it to short out and produce wild sounds. So it's true: that damn rock music does cause kids to be violent!! :) Time to go stab me a few twinkies, hehe...
*------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------*
"The trouble with hell is that the ambient temperature is above the flash point of alcohol. Which means you can't linger over your drink."
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 11:51:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Venus Isle vs Freddy Jones Band Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.960905113721.16552A-100000@moonpatrol.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Bought EJ's latest and FJB's rereleased 1st one on Tuesday (becuz i'm gonna go see that band tomorrow and it would be nice to recognize the stuff....) and I listened to Venus Isle first.....first listen, not impressed, sounded like an attempt to tap the lite-rock market, throw in a little countryish twangs here and there to interest the folx down home in Austin....so basically, I spent most of Tuesday night listening to FJB. a band i've hyped here before: rock with country attitudes, really excellent stuff, however.....
last couple days, however, i gave VI a real good listen, as in turning off the TV, the fan (sitting in the heat to appreciate EJ, now that's sacrifice) and gotta say, this is a montrously cool album, lotsa little things going on that just set off shivers.....like a prev. revue, there are no "cliffs of dover" or even "righteous"-like songs on here, it seems as tho EJ totally ignored radio considerations while making this album (unless he wants to release the songs with vocals to the lite rock markets....) I still haven't matched names to songs yet....makes it tough that 5/6 songs on side 2 (i got the cassette, sue me...) are instrumentals.... that's a good thing, as you can lose yourself in the music without worrying aobut vocals, but bad in the way it hinders me from figuring where one song ends and the next begins....I have got a couple names figured out tho, they're my highlights so far..... "Battle we have won" and "Pavillion"....then there's the Camel one, which is my fave on that album.....on the flipside, i 'm not sure what to make of "Manhattan", it sprta sucks
in either case, y'all gotta go out and get this album.....and pick up on The Freddy Jones Band while you're at it..... partha
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 11:59:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Erwich <merwich@interport.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Prog Nite 9/4 Message-ID: <199609051559.LAA02783@interport.net>
Hi all, From the land for Lurkdom I bring you a capsule review of Prog Nite at the Rock 'N Roll Cafe. Three bands on the bill were Arsnova, Mastermind, and Deus Ex Machina. I'm going to work my way backwards, as that's how worst to best ran.
Deus Ex Machina - Italian band, good buzz on them, looking forward to seeing them one day. Not this night though. They bagged out at the last minutes leaving many dissappointed people. Seems that two of their vans died, stranding their equipment on the road. They were pissed at their road manager (justified) and pretty much decided that they weren't going to play(not justified), even after Mastermind offered the use of their own equipment. It was a letdown...
Well, that's it for the bad. If the other two bands were just OK, I would not have been happy, but the truth was that after Arsnova and Mastermind, I really didn't miss Deus Ex Machina at all.
Mastermind - all the way from New Jersey, with their fourth disc coming out in a week or two have it together pretty damn well. I've heard a few tracks from their CD's and while impressed with the technicality, they sometimes loose the fine line combining technicality and warmth, and come off a bit sterile. They have overcome this live however. The human element in the live show makes the songs larger and more engulfing. Their show is a definite must see. They are regulars at the R 'N R Cafe's Prog Nite, as I've seen them in the crowd for two times running.
Arsnova - Japanese trio - bass, keys, drums, no vocals - never hearing of them before this night, these three unassuming women took the stage and with a minimalist's ideal of an introduction, proceeded to knock me back into LAST WEEK! Big, fat talent alert here. Having never heard them previous, I hadn't a clue as to what was improv, and what was pre-written. It didn't matter, the songs brought you in to them, the lack of vocals seemed to remove an obstacle to becoming lost in the music. Best of the night on this night. They stayed for the whole night mingling and talking with everyone and all in all were a class act.
Well, a good night of music, it was. An hour and a half of Mastermind, an hour+ of Arsnova. Today at work is going to be interesting(home at 2:45am - up for work at 6:00am).
It's gotten to be a monster post(my first ever) to the jam hope you enjoyed it...
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:59:50 -0700 From: fini@eci1.ucsb.edu (Paul T. Fini) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: catch-up on Superior Message-ID: <v01530501ae54449a3238@[128.111.29.63]>
>Hey Guys and Girls! > >Major new talent alert : Superior > >Thanx to my new friend MAPE(HEY MAN!) I've discovered this Top band.Never have >I been blown away so much by a band since the great DT. If you like good music >(and I think you lot all do!) then search for this band you will NOT be >dissapointed.( I havent played any DT today because of them).
Ummm... unless you've newly joined the list, you'll have noticed that there has been MUCH [well, maybe not enough :) ] talk of Superior on the 'jam, especially since we are lucky enough to have one of the band members with us: Bernd Basmer! contact him at: basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de ... I'm sure he'll be happy to hear from you.
What I'd like to know is: When is Superior coming to the U.S. (in particular, southern Cali, but I'm not too picky) to tour? Bernd: you guys have a place to stay in Santa Barbara!
p.
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 11:11:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RUSH's release. Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960905110738.10273A-100000@rossby>
Hey everyone,
I should've written this long ago, but a friend of mine downloaded a couple songs off RUSH's new release. The first one I heard was quite similar to Counterparts, with a pretty heavy edge to it. BUT FOLKS, the 2nd songs I listened to (cannot remember names ATT) was AWESOME!! The first thing I thought of when I heard it was: "This is classic RUSH from the older days, with of course, an easier voice from Geddy". Anyhow, they very much impressed me with a song primarily in odd time, similar to Double Agent, with 3/4 times, but they also had extensive 10/8 time, as well as some other intricate time changes. Finally, a deep breath of fresh air!! I think the new release is worth getting just for this song.
Later, Jon
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 13:22:40 -0400 From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: James Murphy / DT new album stopwatch Message-ID: <v01520d02ae5474b70634@[207.90.122.33]>
Brian Wherry <bwherry@bu.edu> in Y'Jam #1800 wrote:
> 3) Also at Tower...I noticed that James Murphy, that > long-ass-haired guitar player featured on WM (I think he > was or still is a member of Testament...), has a solo > album out on Shrapnel records...It SUCKS!
Hmmm...I've yet to hear James' solo album. Is it new or an old one (circa 88/89 like Freidman's first)? He is a great guitarist, though. IMO, he's better than Alex Skolnick (another ex-Testament axeman)...IMO...IMO.
> 4) The new DT songs and their approximate lengths: > RtK (11:15), WayN (7:15), TAmP (6:35), YoM (5:55) > AL (6:35), BmS (9:00), TWiUtB (8:00), LitS (13:40) > JLmB (5:15) > Now, going by my trusty TI-81's addition capabilities, those > tunes pretty much fill a CD. So where's Metropolis Part Two > gonna go? And what tune is gonna get left off the cassette? ;)
Hmmm...ringing in at approx 73:30 minutes is quite a bit. However, they still have final cuts on what'll make it...and there could be about 80 minutes put onto a CD (of course this takes out some oversampling quality, I think). Mike and JP have both said that Met Pt2 *will* be there, so don't count it out yet...
> Brian Wherry
Dan
---+ Dan Temmesfeld --- email: dantemm@erinet.com http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm "Home of the Unofficial GALACTIC COWBOYS Page" ---+
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 13:40:04 -0400 From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Portnoy Clinic / DT double CD / Portnoy shaved ;) Message-ID: <v01520d04ae5479d33983@[207.90.122.33]>
Elliott Kim from Y'Jam #1801: > he played another new song, "You Or Me." It's a lot more > "straight-forward."...And I will dare to say that it sounded > rather "mainstream."
Hey, they need some money too...my first impression has 'hm...more mainstream feel to it,' however, it *is* still very much DT, thank GOD!!!
> We want to hear all their material, but the band will most > likely have to give in to the powers that be, and we'll miss > out on an hour and 15 minutes of music due to the time limit- > ations of a single CD. :(
Don't pout. :) *This* 'no double CD thing' is not bad for the fans. It only means that they will have 1 hour 15 minutes left over for another album to come out, hopefully sooner than 2 years from the release of this one. Plus, there'll be the b-sides to singles, etc. I'm sure we'll hear all of those songs sometime.
> Damn. He sure looked wierd with his head shaved. ;)
Bad joke. Funny, though. I hope some people don't believe you...
..you were joking weren't you? Were you? ;)
Dan
---+ Dan Temmesfeld --- email: dantemm@erinet.com http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm "Home of the Unofficial GALACTIC COWBOYS Page" ---+
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 20:12:29 +0200 From: akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: BL Message-ID: <v03007800ae54c8471a8e@[128.178.99.94]>
>> Just out of curiosity, can you think of anybody famous with the initals B= L? >> I can't.
Ba Looney
just my .02$ of BS
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 20:33:14 +0200 From: akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: SG and Stuph Message-ID: <v03007801ae54c8cb3986@[128.178.99.94]>
OK. Sorry for that one...
Scott: >it's like to get it thrown back at him. I don't hate SG, I just think they >need to get their own sound, which will probably happen over time.
just as DT matured from IAW to Awake.
KURRRRRRT: >YT>Actually the members of Dream Theater found out that we wanted to do a >YT>tribute to them and they were p ssed off. They did not want us to tribute >YT>them. They are currently in a legal battle against ytsejammers (the label >YT>that is manufacturing the tribute CD). Dream Theater has already banned >YT>the CD in Long Island, but fortunately it will be sold in other parts of >YT>the United States. I've called many music stores and none of them even >YT>knew about the tribute. I just hope Dream Theater doesn't go too far with >YT>one. I really want to get a copy of this.
I found one in Siberia (Eastern) the other day during my vacations. No Working Man, tho'. I'd apparently just missed the last copy to a guy who had come in with a bottle of Tequila in his hand bellowing "I D O N ' T N E E D N O C O F F E E ! ! !"
D-Man wrote: >I've yet to meet a Dream Theater fan that I don't like.
mememememememememememememe!
:-)
hehe
........................................................................ D A V E K I N G vox & bass MT-20
"holding on is easier than letting go" (fw) "I was told there'll be no one to call on when I feel alone and afraid" (dt)
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:18:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Just a quickie ... Message-ID: <199609051918.PAA26190@wicked.stigmata.org>
There is a long one coming soon, just haven't had time to sit down and write it yet.
This one is about posting rules. I have said MANY times that I really would like everyone to follow just ONE rule when posting. Think BEFORE you post. Its not that hard. Just don't post garbage, or stuff you think will start a fight or anything like that. It will make everyone happy. This comes up from time to time in my head, because I read a jam and get no info from it or just see alot of garbage that doesn't need to be there.
So, let me help you think. When you are posting a response, please ONLY include the parts that are pertinent to your response. I see people sending responses to messages which have a 50 line message and then 50 more lines of their own. We only need to see the important parts, most of us probably read the post the first time. Also, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not just post one word or one line responses, especially when you are quoting alot from another message. Just include the necessary parts and have a real response, not just "Yeah!" or something like that. When the jam has so much junk on it, like quoted stuff from responses we end up with extra jams and alot of junk that needs to be skimmed through. Also, don't post about completely, utterly and totally random garbage.
Thanks :) Your Favorite Moderator in the Whole World (Who is now legal :)
Skadz
--------------------------------------------------------- Ryan P Skadberg skadz@soundlogic.com Internet / Network / Systems Consultant Sound Logic Consulting New Media Communications http://www.soundlogic.com http://www.mindstorm.com --------------------------------------------------------- for the first time in a long time everything was right in my world and then i woke up ---------------------------------------------------------
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