YTSEJAM Digest 1889
Today's Topics:
1) No need for more flames
by vanzin@infinity.com.br
2) Visual music #1
by Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>
3) the next con :)
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
4) Flirting...
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
5) Help w/Conn
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
6) wav's, au's and other things
by "Chad L. Cook" <ccook@bbn.com>
7) caps :-)
by Mike Pelarski <pelarski@cs.und.edu>
8) Re: caps :-)
by "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
9) Vindication and the art of prophecy
by Phillip Scott Kish <pkish@tiger.lsuiss.ocs.lsu.edu>
10) Good or bad music???
by "Nils Andersson" <nils.g.andersson@mbox330.swipnet.se>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1886
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
12) Re: Broad or narrow/transitions
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
13) Re: FLAME
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
14) Stuff....
by te95mne@student.hgs.se (MIKA NUMMINEN)
15) FINALLY A 'CARPE DIEM' UPDATE
by v932407@si.hhs.nl
16) Re: Dalbello again.
by Jan Melander <jan.melander@got.wmdata.se>
17) WDADU
by rod@nlnet.nf.ca (Jeff Taylor)
18)
by Dave Peterson <glyde@scc.net>
19) Ytsecon too far away
by Graham Borland <graham@grelb.src.gla.ac.uk>
20) Assorted junk
by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
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Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 22:43:06 +0300
From: vanzin@infinity.com.br
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: No need for more flames
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.9.29.-10.43.6.3163793292.118377@infinity.com.br>
Hey jammerz (especially Itchy, who loves Frederico)!
YT>From: fbarbosa@solar.com.br (Frederico Mello Simoes Barbosa)
YT>To: ytsejam@ax.com
YT>Hello Jammers ! :)))
YT>Well, I'm sorry.
YT>I'm asking you all to apologize me for
YT>everything I said.
YT>Peace !
I think we don't need any more flaming, do we? So, let's stop this
thing.
And I don't need to do that "silent man" mail anymore! :)
[]'s
Marcelo Vanzin
Sao Paulo - Brazil
vanzin@geocities.com vanzin@infinity.com.br
vanzin@dreamt.org
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/index.html
Always in the #ytsejam!
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Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 18:52:28 -0700
From: Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Visual music #1
Message-ID: <199609300150.SAA08602@ichips.intel.com>
Hey, I actually know this one! (I think...)
YTSEJAM!
But shouldn't the "deedle dee's" be "dee- dee's"?
dle
-- Jim (who is usually stumped by these damn things...)
-- Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com> | If I had a witty remark that MD6 Design Engineer, Intel Corp, Hillsboro OR | would better the lives of my -=(UDIC)=- Subconscious Dragon -=(UDIC)=- | fellow mankind, do you really ** I don't speak for Intel ** | think I would put it HERE?------------------------------
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 21:28:07 -0500 From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: the next con :) Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960930022807.0069b800@mail.inlink.com>
>Now, how about st. Louis? Hmm, anyone, anyone? I mean, for a central >location, you couldn't do much better, IMO (no, I'm not saying this >because I live near there). I mena, we have the airport, we have a >decent amount of clubs and hotels, not to mention a good number of >jammers I'm sure would be willing to open their houses to some poor saps >who can't afford the hotels :). We also have the riverboats (not a good >idea for you gambling addicts, of course, there are some boats that >don't have the gambling on them :). Also, many convention >centers/hotels with convention rooms, etc. It'd be great for a con in >the midwest (bummer the Mytsecon had to be canned). Chicago would also >be a good place.
ohhhhh! you said it man! c'mon, theres no better place that St Louis! it'll also be nicer for those who cant exactly make it up to New York to have a better shot at it.... also if we do, lets all go over to the Arch and try and knock it over. rrrah :) oh man.... i just picture a bunch of drunk ytsejammers trashing around the riverfront. wooo!!!!!!!!!!!
>Visual Music #1
hmmm.... the deedle dee's look like the Ytse Jam to me :)
~Rip
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Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 21:31:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu> To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Flirting... Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960929212934.26183B-100000@indy21.gclab.missouri.edu>
>Augie wrote: >>> And I bet all you folks thought that cyber-flirting was a waste of time >> >>Oh, I wouldn't say that... :) >> >>Pat Griffin > > Erm, Augie? Pat? Is there something we should know about you > two?
No, Augie's not my type. I prefer 'innies' not 'outies'. I was talking about Irene, thankyouverymuch. :)
h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 / | Pat Griffin Reality2 Design | | c675311@showme.missouri.edu c675311@cclabs.missouri.edu | h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
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Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 22:56:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Help w/Conn Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960929225205.53778B-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
ATTENTION:
Sorry to shout, but I need some help. I'd love to go to the Conn, but I could really use someplace to stay. If any jammers living in the area have a couple meters of floor space to spare, I'd love it occupy it for the night. I'm trying to avoid the Marriott, just 'cuz money is tight right now. But if anyone wants to split a room, I'm open to that too. E-mail me privately if you can help me out. Otherwise I might not be able to go and I'd miss out on this once in a lifetime opportunity. Thanks.
Richie
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Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 23:07:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chad L. Cook" <ccook@bbn.com> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: wav's, au's and other things Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.92.960929230458.11379A-100000@achilles.BBN.COM>
To whomever was looking for a wav -> au converter, do an ftp search for xplay, I use it on a sun, and it works well.
has anyone out there been keeping a tally on how many of the 100 JPM100's are owned by people on here? just wonderin'...
Syrinx: new godflesh is very cool..
Chad
------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chad L. Cook BBN Systems and Technologies System Administrator 10 Moulton St. ccook@bbn.com Cambridge, MA 02138
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 00:04:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Pelarski <pelarski@cs.und.edu> To: Just Words <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: caps :-) Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960929235916.20557A-100000@agassiz.cas.und.nodak.edu>
> From: <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool" > > how to be annoying? > 1. WRITE ONLY IN UPPERCASE > 2. write only in lowercase
Or just CAPITALIZE words you think are IMPORTANT, so people will read your MESSAGES about PROGRESSIVE ROCK and think...
gee, this guy sounds like that song, they're COMING to TAKE me AWAY, HA HA they're COMING to TAKE me AWAY, HO HO...
--Mike --NP: Crimson Glory, Transcendence
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Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 23:19:03 +0000 From: "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: caps :-) Message-ID: <199609300513.XAA17608@cyberhighway.net>
> --NP: Crimson Glory, Transcendence
Love that album. Anyone know if they have any others? I've looked, but Transcendence is all anyone ever comes up with? Send in private e-mail. Conserve bandwith.
BTW to ask a stupid question. What is bandwidth anyway? (Private mail, please!) Maybe it should be posted on the jam. A brief definition maybe, to keep people from posting useless information (like this) on the jam so much. (I do like the VM though. I've only figured out 2 of 'em though. I suck) vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv <I'm lying here in bed, swear my skin is inside out> < Just Another Sunday Morning > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ IbzRG570 ibanez@cyberhighway.net
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 01:01:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Phillip Scott Kish <pkish@tiger.lsuiss.ocs.lsu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Vindication and the art of prophecy Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960930005519.96024A-100000@tiger3.ocs.lsu.edu>
I was just reading some story that I am supposed to read for English class tomorrow and I came upon a part that said:
"Six O'clock on Christmas morning! And all for what?"
"Well, isn't for the honour of God, Aunt Kate?"
"I know all about the honour of God, Mary Jane........."
This is of course from "The Dead" by James Joyce. I had read the source of the sample from the DT FAQ but I had forgotten until that cool moment in the story reminded me.
Well that is my useless input for the day. Hope you enjoyed.
Phillip http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/2553
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 09:13:30 +0100 From: "Nils Andersson" <nils.g.andersson@mbox330.swipnet.se> To: "Ytsejam mailinglist" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Good or bad music??? Message-ID: <199609300711.IAA25976@gaia.swip.net>
About the subject good or bad music............ There is actually no bad music.......Only bad musicians. And since 90% of them are quite bad, it leaves only the 10% good musicians. Maybe I4m out of my leag here, but I think (and I have my own opinion, right?) that progressive music makes about 5% of the good music since only good musicians are able to make their music interesting. See ya!!!!!!
Ps. I LOVE PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!!!!ds ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Don4t bleed for the dead........They can4t see you anyway.......Na496
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 96 3:23:16 EDT From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1886 Message-ID: <9609300723.AA32136@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
I must disagree with the statement that syays 80s rush isn't prog. listent to the following tracks:
1980 Permanent waves: Sperit of Radio, Free Will, Jacob's Ladder, Natural Science, and maybe Different Strings 1981 Moving Pictures: Tom Sawyer, Red Barchetta, YYZ, Limelight, In the Camera Eye, Witchhunt 1983 Signals: Subdivisions, Losing It 1984 Grace Under Pressure: AfterrImage, Kid Gloves 1985 Power Windows: big Money, Marathon 1987 Hold your fire: Force 10, Time Stands Still, Mission, Turn the Page 1989 Presto: Super conductor, Show don't tell
if I got the dates wrong, oh well, I am going from memory. I probably missed a few tracks, but these are songs that are definitely not poppy, and they sound really camn prog to me. Not flaming, just disagreeing.
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 96 3:29:17 EDT From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Broad or narrow/transitions Message-ID: <9609300729.AA21079@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
For the record, I can mix anything, cuts, fades, stops, drinks. You name it, can mix it. I just like fades better. Pull me under to me isn't a fade, it's just fucked up. And I love it for that. Took me a while to time that ending right, though.
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 96 3:37:12 EDT From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: FLAME Message-ID: <9609300737.AA19406@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Wow. I'm impressed. He appologized. so, guys, do we forgive him?
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 09:34:23 +0200 From: te95mne@student.hgs.se (MIKA NUMMINEN) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Stuff.... Message-ID: <199609300733.JAA29840@adeptus.student.hgs.se>
>From: fbarbosa@solar.com.br (Frederico Mello Simoes Barbosa) >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: FLAME > >Hello Jammers ! :))) > >Well, I'm sorry. >I'm asking you all to apologize me for >everything I said. > >Peace ! >
:)
>Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 20:49:41 -0500 >From: "Larry Odneal" <hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com> >To: <ytsejam@ax.com> >Subject: Re: YTSEbull > >Sure! Here's what you missed - James was fired and replaced by Sammy >Hagar, who promptly became an Xtian, so he was fired and replaced by Gary >Cherone, who started singing J C Superstar at his audition and so he was >fired, and then DT called David Lee Roth but he showed up stoned, so they >called Lane Staley but he showed up on smack, so they called Scott Weiland >(same deal), so they called Charlie D but he didn't hear the phone cuz he >was out standing in his driveway waving at cars, so they quickly called >back James, who rejoined! 'Course, most people never even heard about any >of this, except us 'jammerz!
Wow!! I had no idea this had happened, I shouldn't have erased those jams.... :)
Wait a minute I think I'll do one of those Visualmusic things (#4):
doooooooooooommm dadadadadadaaaaaahhhhh
humde dum dideliduuuhhhhh humdedum sqwip duuuude youuuuuuuuuurrrrr
beeeeeeiiiiiinnnggg screeeeeee wwwweeddddd
OK, that's a challenge!! :)
Cheers,
Mika Numminen, aka Viking
MAIL: te95mne@student.hgs.se URL: http://www.hgs.se/~te95mne ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you."
Nietzsche "Beyond good and evil" ------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 11:10:25 +0200 (MET DST) From: v932407@si.hhs.nl To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FINALLY A 'CARPE DIEM' UPDATE Message-ID: <199609300910.LAA04334@gilliams.si.hhs.nl>
*** FINALLY I HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS! ***
I'm very pleased to announce that I have finally found somebody who can produce the 'Carpe Diem' cd's for me while my cd-writer is being repaired.
I have to pay a certain amount per cd, but at this time I'll do anything to get my cd released. I'm really sorry for all the people who ordered 'Carpe Diem', but there was just nothing I could do about it.
So (finally) expect your 'Carpe Diem' cd within a reasonable amount of time. The first cd's I will ship, will be the BIG orders for Stephane and Masa. After that I will do the other orders.
Again, sorry for all the trouble,
Marcel Berkhout v932407@si.hhs.nl
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 96 11:42:07 +0200 From: Jan Melander <jan.melander@got.wmdata.se> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Dalbello again. Message-ID: <9609301038.AA13703@goethe.got.wmdata.se>
> Dalbello's new record, Whore, has every possible musical label >on it that I could affix. It has funk, heavy rock, alternative grit >and the introspective Promised Land kind of sound. Is it consistently >progressive?
Nice to see that I'm not alone in have the same feeleing about 'Whore', I had to pull out Promised Land and start to play it again to confim the feeling, not that it is similar in music or concept but rather it has the same 'aura' (deep shit..man), might be due to some eastern influenses on both records. I understand that the record is not out in the states yet, is that true? It's an advantage living in Europe sometimes ;-)
Cheers,
On the Ibanez thread: I'm proud playing a PRS Custom, black cherry with birds, a real beauty! :-D
--------------------------------------------------------------- Jan Melander WM-Data jan.melander@got.wmdata.se --------------------------------------------------------------- "Until the circle breaks and wisdom lies ahead, The faithful live Awake, the rest remain misled" Innocence Faded - Dream Theater
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:23:34 -0300 From: rod@nlnet.nf.ca (Jeff Taylor) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: WDADU Message-ID: <199609301023.HAA17369@terra.nlnet.nf.ca>
Hello everyone! While I was out of town this past weekend I finally managed to get a copy of WDADU. I've listened to it a few times and IMO it is an excellent album! I think 2 of the best songs on it are "Light Fuse and Get Away" and especially "The Killing Hand". Love the storyline in that one! What's up with those pictures on back, though? They look like they're from some Hot Licks instructional video or something. ;)
I also picked up Test For Echo, and this one rocks too! I like the heavy feel on a lot of the songs like "Driven", "Dog Years" and the title track. Does anyone besides me think that "Time and Motion" sounds a lot like DT? Like the way the time signature shifts around all over the place. Also, i don't think there's anything wrong with the lyrics on the album. I think some of them are pretty cool, actually. :)
Anyway, time to get caught up on the 20 or so 'Jams currently residing in my mailbox. :)
Jeff Taylor
"For the first time in a long time, everything was right in my world. Then I woke up."
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 05:47:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Dave Peterson <glyde@scc.net> To: DT Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960930054712.24112A-100000@scc.net>
667: Neighbor of the Beast
- Dr. Teeth
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:32:26 +0100 (BST) From: Graham Borland <graham@grelb.src.gla.ac.uk> To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Ytsecon too far away Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.93.960930123000.18728C-100000@grelb.src.gla.ac.uk>
I want to go to the YtseCon. It's weird, though . . . when I had lots of free time, I couldn't afford to go. Now I have enough money, I have no time. Jobs suck.
I wish someone would organize a European thang. A EutseCon? I would offer to organize one, except I'm crap at organizing. It would be cool to have it in Amsterdam ;-)
Graham B. _______________________________________________ | o o | | Graham Borland |:: | graham@grelb.src.gla.ac.uk |:: | http://grelb.src.gla.ac.uk:8000/~graham |:: |_______________________________________________|:: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 96 15:08:27 +0200 From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de Subject: Assorted junk Message-ID: <9609301308.AA00477@sundoc13.software-ag.de>
Hi all
I must be getting old: when I was a kid, a fade out was something that happened to your favourite pair of Levis when your mum washed them too hot...
Once again, welcome to the RUSHOJAM (not everybody can have my taste [or lack thereof, as some of you might say]).
Neil's Dictionary Of Musical Terms
DEFINITION OF PROGRESSIVE MUSIC: when we can call each other bastards and tell each other to fuck off. For further information and references, please refer to the last 10 or so digests. Fuck off, you bastard. My pleasure.
Last week was a good week for my CD collection and a very bad week for my bank account. Why am I telling you this? Because you may be interested and also because I bought some Dream Theater (who?).
Neil's new stuff:
Cemetary - Black Vanity (good solid goth/metal from Sweden) Sadist - Tribe (great Italian band who play prog/metal/cross-over with jazz influences - the guitarist plays keyboards and guitars at the same time. Very good live.) Paradise Lost - The Last Time EP Queensryche - Empire (are we still allowed to mention Queensryche here, or will the Ytsejam Thought Police delete my account?) Waltari - Yeah! Yeah! Die! Die! (the subtitle says it all: death metal symphony in deep C. A real soprano, a symphony orchestra and a death metal band all together. Possibly the weirdest CD I've bought for a long time. Thanks for the tip, Mape) Dream Theater - Lords of Sound (see below)
'Lords of Sound' is the best Dream Theater boot that I've heard so far. Good sound and some interesting stuff on it. But at the risk of opening up old wounds allow me one question: is this one of the gigs where James was having one of his "bad nights"? From what I've heard, seen and read on the Jam, he seems to have a lot of them. Don't believe me? Then listen to what he does to Metropolis on this CD. Still, a good buy all in all, and I picked it up for a mere DM 40, or approx. $ 27 for you stateside Jammers.
Nuff said.
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag)
Currently playing: Sadist - Tribe
Still looking for Lemur Voice in Germany. Any other Kraut-Jammers having the same problem?
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