YTSEJAM Digest 2458
Today's Topics:
1) Absolutely Nothing
by ITCHAK SCHWARZBARD <is01133@mis.finchcms.edu>
2) DT shirts?
by lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu
3) Multiple posts?
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
4) Multiple posts?
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
5) PT, BB
by "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
6) Fix for 1997 Gig Report
by cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
7) Re: PT, BB
by 2112 <belhai@drew.edu>
8) Re: G3 summer tour
by steve420@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling)
9) Re: Stuff
by steve420@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling)
10) Hi all!! PT reviews?
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
11) indie review
by "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
12) Jersey, Fooking Jersey
by Eric John Marlett <gt7262a@prism.gatech.edu>
13) Radio setlist #2
by Glenn Pillsbury <pillsbur@ucla.edu>
14) RE: ACACIA
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
15) Re: Stuff (NDTC)
by Tomas Servomoteur <thetgyi@BGNet.bgsu.edu>
16) A New Campaign
by Tomas Servomoteur <thetgyi@BGNet.bgsu.edu>
17) NEED HELP FOLKS!
by Yanos Aldron <yanos@netwiz.net>
18) DT in Nuernberg/Germany
by ANDREAS GRIESSING <AGRIESS@nf.fh-nuernberg.de>
19) Re: DT in Nuernberg/Germany
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:49:14 -0500 (CDT)
From: ITCHAK SCHWARZBARD <is01133@mis.finchcms.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Absolutely Nothing
Message-ID: <9704150549.AA10670@mis.finchcms.edu>
> Ps.: was that green Adidas shirt on Petrucci a joke?? ;)
Yeah. I guess his napalm death shirt was dirty.
Or maybe he realized the '80's are over and wearing all black is...not so
cool anymore. :)
> From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
> Subject: No Doubt in my mind
>
> Whoa. Cool. The No Doubt Mailing List!
Na, it's a mailing list for Dream Theater fans...for Dream Theater fans
to talk about whatever the fuck they want. Not whatever you want.
During a DT drought like this, the type of DTC you hear includes someone
posting that their ex-roommate's best friend's third step-cousin's
paperboy heard that DT won't be recording anytime soon because JP has
chronic diarrhea, or the one ytsejammer from Siberia posts" to the dream
theatre. please come to preform some of your lovely music for I and my
brother Mishka. PULL ME UNDER!"
I'd rather hear about some jammers' diverse musical tastes.
> From: "Andre Luiz Machado" <Orion@netyet.com.br>
> To: "YtseJam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
> Subject: BACKSTAGE PASS IN BRAZIL SHOW!!!
>
>
> I NEED this pass... I'm a fanatic fan...
> All my life is dedicated to Dream Theater...
> I have all official material(CD's videos) + many bootlegs CD's and
> I play guitar too and I have the transcriptions books and the instructional
See what I mean?
> Anything of DT that appears in front of me... I BUY... Without any care...
I have a pair of Myung's soiled underwear. Only 5 bucks. You buy?
> Or anything else, like an interview at hotel, show the city to them, a
> lunch or dinner with them... Something of them...
Is this a proposal? Something of them???
Sorry about the lack of content (you should have read the subject heading)
and I hope none of the above people take too much offense, especially the
jammer from Siberia who, if he exists, will soon flame the shit out of me.
Later.
Its
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:49:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT shirts?
Message-ID: <199704150549.BAA06449@umbc10.umbc.edu>
I just read something on the LIfting Shadows page that said
that the regular US Fix for 96 shirts that were for sale will
now be replaced with the new European Fix shirts. What
is the deal with this?? Is there anyway I can get a regular
US Fix shirt? Anyone know?
Neil?
What do the European shirts look like? LIke the US but different
wording?
Thanks for the info!
-- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \ / / L. Jason Hartman "And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend \ \ lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu And I'll never be open again / / And I'll have no more dreams to defend \ \ Univ. Of Maryland, And I'll never be open again " / / Baltimore County - Kevin Moore : Dream Theater \ \ / / "Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot." \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:56:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu> To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Multiple posts? Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970415005532.22422A-100000@indy21.gclab.missouri.edu>
What the hell is the deal with all these people posting the exact same post multiple times in the same 'jam?
=20 h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 / | Pat Griffin Reality=B2 Design | | c675311@showme.missouri.edu c675311@cclabs.missouri.edu | h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:56:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu> To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Multiple posts? Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970415005618.22422B-100000@indy21.gclab.missouri.edu>
What the hell is the deal with all these people posting the exact same post multiple times in the same 'jam?
:) =20 h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 / | Pat Griffin Reality=B2 Design | | c675311@showme.missouri.edu c675311@cclabs.missouri.edu | h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:24:02 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: PT, BB Message-ID: <199704150629.BAA10246@Walden.MO.NET>
Just got Precious Things today! I must sayt hat it definitely is a good buy. I'll post a review when I get the chance to sit down and give it a good listen straight through. COOL! MTV's playing the Beastie Boys' "No Sleep 'Til Brooklyn." :)
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 97 06:32:03 GMT From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers) To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List) Subject: Fix for 1997 Gig Report Message-ID: <M.041597.083203.94@wxs1-15.worldaccess.nl>
If you will visit one of these gigs yourself later, don't read this. It contains spoilers. Yesterday, April 14th, I got the opportunity to go and see Dream Theater at Melkweg, Amsterdam, supported by Enchant. I had interviewed DT before so I contacted Warner Bros to get a photo pass. Luckily, they were still available. The gig had already been sold out for quite a while, and this was the only way I could still get in :-) The doors opened at 20:30, at which time people oozed in. I had interviewed Mercyful Fate (and been healed by King Diamond :-) a few weeks before, so I knew how to get backstage. Nobody was paying any attention there, security-wise, at least not when I walked there. I had already gotting John Myung to sign all my stuff (including A, SfaM, WDaTU, CD and AD) but now I was keen on finding Mike for some questions. I ran into him near the dressing room, where I had a quick chat with him. His right hand was wrapped in a band aid, by the way, he had supposedly dislocated his little finger during a drumsolo earlier in the tour. I asked him when they were finally going to hit the studio, and he told me not to quote him on the fact that they'll enter around May 20th (so I won't :-). They intend to release the enormous amount of surplus material on CD singles, if possible, and maybe an extra EP to be released later. I also asked whether they'd be doing another Fan Club CD, and he told me, just thinking out loud, that he'd like to do that. I then got him to sign all the stuff and continued to wait for other members of the band. Derek, like I had expected, wanted to sign "stuff he'd played on" :-) James came by a little later, and was very impressed by the "Carpe Diem" CD booklet but didn't want to sign it :-(. Petrucci came last, and he was cool too. Enchant was OK, though I spent their entire 50 minute set backstage so I could only hear it. But they sounded really quite good. Will check them out soon. At 21:45, DT took the stage. They played a variety of old (Ytsejam, Killing Hand) and new stuff (The Mirror + Lie, ACoS interspersed, Pull me Under, Learning to Live, a totally rearranged Caught in a Web) and five 'sneak previews of the new album'. These included "Burn my Soul" (I am not sure about the "burn" part), Lines in the Sand (14 minutes long), Take Away my Pain and two others songs. They were all made up of balls'n'chunks, and I can't wait to get the new album! TAmP was more laid back, a song John P. wrote on account of his father passing away. The audience didn't react too brilliant to it. They ended at about 23:50, at which time I had to run to catch the last train home, after which I heard them coming back for what I suppose was the only encore, "Metropolis". The band were really tight, James had a great voice, and especially John P. and Derek were trading licks the whole time, having great fun (and it showed). Luckily no Silent Man and all that stuff, and I didn't miss 6:00 and Another Day either (heard them quite often enough). And that, as they say, is it. -- /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | Richard Karsmakers cronos@worldaccess.nl | \--------------------------------------------------------------/ C.R.I.M.E. Development; "Twilight World" Magazine; WWW-MMM "ST NEWS" ST/TT/Falcon disk magazine; "Ultimate Virus Killer" Gwar FUQ II & GEMulator FAQ maintainer P.O. Box 67, 3500 AB, Utrecht, Netherlands /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | Q: What do you do when a musician comes to your door? | | A: Pay him for the pizza. | \--------------------------------------------------------------/
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 02:52:30 -0500 (EST) From: 2112 <belhai@drew.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: PT, BB Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970415025208.711357245D-100000@drew.edu>
> Just got Precious Things today! I must sayt hat it definitely is a > good buy. I'll post a review when I get the chance to sit down and > give it a good listen straight through. > COOL! MTV's playing the Beastie Boys' "No Sleep 'Til Brooklyn." :)
What was your number for PT. Just want to know when to expect mine. Thanx.
Brandon
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:02:18 -0700 From: steve420@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: G3 summer tour Message-ID: <v02130502af78d840ce47@[128.32.100.59]>
Are there any tour dates for this yet? I would LOVE to see this.
-Shane
______________________________________________________________________________ I Shane Liebling I I was told there's a miracle for each I I jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu I day that I try. I was told there's a I I http://www.earthlink.net/~mariachi I new love that's born for each one I I CAA Tweeker & Ytsejammer I that has died... Love is the Dance of I I Member of A.M.M.O. since 1997 I Eternity."Metropolis" - Dream Theater I ______________________________________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:06:02 -0700 From: steve420@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Stuff Message-ID: <v02130503af78d8e1f409@[128.32.100.59]>
>Speaking of No Doubt, another cool song I hear on the radio goes "and you >just don't get it, keep me copastetic and you learn to accept it, you know >your so pathedic"... Anyone know who this is and what CD its on. I really >want the CD- its another one of the alternative bands I love.
Yeah, they are a band called Local H, I think the song is called something like "Down on the Floor" or something like that. I saw the video for it and all I saw was a guitarist (who sang) and a drummer, but I am sure I can here a bass in the song.. Oh well...
-Shane
______________________________________________________________________________ I Shane Liebling I I was told there's a miracle for each I I jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu I day that I try. I was told there's a I I http://www.earthlink.net/~mariachi I new love that's born for each one I I CAA Tweeker & Ytsejammer I that has died... Love is the Dance of I I Member of A.M.M.O. since 1997 I Eternity."Metropolis" - Dream Theater I ______________________________________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:15:43 -0700 (MST) From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hi all!! PT reviews? Message-ID: <199704150715.AAA20071@goodguy.goodnet.com>
Anyone out there got any in-depth reviews of Precious Things? Now that a lot of them are finally hitting homes (based on all the confirmations I'm getting in e-mail) I'm curious to know what the reaction is, especially to the "new" material like Solar Groove and Freeport Jam, Raise the Knife, and Lost Without You.
A quick note for everyone as per usual: business is booming right now. Things are going so AWESOME in CD-land that I'm falling behind on shipping a little!! (though it won't affect schedules any, because I've been gradually pulling ahead in shipping and this balances it somewhat). Since this is a positive problem, and it's the kind of problem I really don't mind having to deal with, I just wanted to shoot a GIANT thank-you to everyone who is supporting my Rush and Dream Theater projects, and especially to those with long-standing orders who have been patient and understanding through all the turmoil of earlier this year.
Anyway, I'm likely to actually run out of WDATU, the way things are going, and I never thought that would happen any time soon. Thanks to everyone, and for all the new folks out there, please don't miss out on these special limited CDs, because I hate to be the one to tell you when there aren't any left. As previously mentioned, Experience to Extremes (Rush 2-CD) is extended to 250 due to _overwhelming_ demand.
I can't wait till you all see the liner to Darkest of Winters!! I'd put it on the web page now, but that would spoil the GIANT surprise.
Take care all!! CD info can be found at the webpage below. ---v - Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 02:31:35 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: indie review Message-ID: <199704150736.CAA21988@Walden.MO.NET>
Hmm, i just read a review of an indie prog band in the latest HM Magazine that sorta struck me as intriguing. The band's called Metropolis (guess why they caught my eye :). Here it is:
"If you're going after the Dream Theater sound, you better have a great vocalist; and you better be good musicians; and you better not bore us with incessant jamming. Metropolis scores fairly high on all accounts with "Behind Mysterious Walls." Marco Verfurth does a splendid job with the vocals, using his lungs to full capacity and knowing when to hold back. The songs are very good progressive metal, and the band writes well enough to to actually not be laughed at when compared with Dream Theater. These guys are good. For ordering information, check out the recent radrockers' catalogue (http://www.radrockers.com I think). This one's from Germany, so it may cost a little more to get, but fans of prog metal will love it." Anyone ever hear these guys? I'm interested, but a good review doesn't necessarily equal a good album.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 03:41:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric John Marlett <gt7262a@prism.gatech.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Jersey, Fooking Jersey Message-ID: <199704150741.DAA24033@acmez.gatech.edu>
Speaking of Fucking, NJ, has anyone ever found a self-serve gas station there? What's the deal? Now, New Yorkers know the value of that pumping-your-own-gas feeling! So what happened to you there across the river? ;)
Eric
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:46:15 -0800 From: Glenn Pillsbury <pillsbur@ucla.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Radio setlist #2 Message-ID: <v03007802af78f07021e2@[164.67.249.133]>
For those of you keeping score at home, the following comprised my show Monday night.
Glenn
The Spirit of Radio Where Eagles Dare Child of Fire Stained Class 21st Century Schizoid Man Watch the Children Pray Cold Gin Modern Day Cowboy Master of Puppets For Whom the Bell Tolls Holier Than Thou Erotomania Seasons (Badlands) Tender Surrender Color Me Blind Never Satisfied Bring the Noise (kick ass version with Anthrax and Public Enemy) No Attention (Soundgarden) Them Bones Soul Burn (Meshuggah) Jizzlobber (Faith No More) Great Gig in the Sky
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:49:38 -0700 From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RE: ACACIA Message-ID: <199704150749.AAA00182@ms.kallback.com>
> Acacia, a prog band from Italy >Yours in Music >Debbie ---------- Debbie, Can you describe them a LITTLE better? More like DT or old QR or what? Thanks
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 03:54:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Tomas Servomoteur <thetgyi@BGNet.bgsu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Stuff (NDTC) Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970415034322.2336B-100000@bgnet1.bgsu.edu>
> Local H...I saw the video for it and all I saw was a guitarist (who > sang) and a drummer, but I am sure I can here a bass in the song..
Actually, Local H doesn't have a bass player, they're a rock "duo". The guitarist modified his guitar so that the bass strings (E, A, D [not sure about G]) are pickup-ed additionally, which are sent to another amp's clean channel. It's kind of like stereo outputs, a la the Hamer Duo-Tone.
Sincerely,
G. Jack Thetgyi
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 04:10:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Tomas Servomoteur <thetgyi@BGNet.bgsu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: A New Campaign Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970415040331.3029B-100000@bgnet1.bgsu.edu>
My fellow 'Jammers,
I was looking through a couple of guitar magazines, and I noticed Mesa/Boogie advertisements for Soundgarden. These were 2 page advertisements, and showed various amps. Now that Soundgarden is no more, and JP is doing even more clinics, what if we contact Mesa/Boogie about an ad campaign for Petrucci? Think about it, he's one of their few artists who actually has information and sound clips on their web page, and with an instructional video, clinics, a European tour, and an album forthcoming, they could really do well. Also, he's known and respected in the guitar community, and instead of endorsing the trend of the month, Mesa/Boogie could demonstrate integrity and artist support. Any feedback, positive or negative/civilized is welcome.
Sincerely,
G. Jack Thetgyi
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:29:14 -0700 From: Yanos Aldron <yanos@netwiz.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NEED HELP FOLKS! Message-ID: <33533C5A.994096A4@netwiz.net>
I am in the process of revamping my once horrid homepage and want to include two new sections under the music category: First-I would like to compile a listing of every homepage owned and maintained by a Jam Member. Secondly-I would like URLs for high quality Prog Metal Sites either corporate or private for any Prog Bands.
My goal is to provide an area where we can go to link to each others pages and also find some of the better Prog material on the net listed by band name.
Please assist me by emailing me your personal URLs and any Prog URLs that are worth linking to. I appreciate the help and will let all know when the project is ready for usage.
Cheers-
Yanos
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:38:12 GMT+1 From: ANDREAS GRIESSING <AGRIESS@nf.fh-nuernberg.de> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT in Nuernberg/Germany Message-ID: <2E4AB25009F@nf-soft.nf.fh-nuernberg.de>
Hi Jammers,
first of all I have to say sorry for my retard, I know there were already the Munich and Milan reviews on the list, but I didn't find the time. So, if anyone is interested here are some impressions from a fantastic Nuernberg-Gig:
The time waiting for Dream Theater was shorten by Enchant and they have done very well. Then an amazing show of 5 musicians not from this world (?!) followed. Most of the songs were played in a fantastic modificated version. In my opinion Derek's keyboard sound gave the songs a new refreshing style. Here is the setlist, like it was written by hand by Mike Portnoy: ACOS - Sunrise ACOS - Innocence The Mirror/Lie Burning My Soul Another Hand/Killing Hand Just Let Me Breathe Caught In A Web Peruvian Skies Pull Me Under Lines In The Sand Take Away My Pain ACOS - Winters Ytsejam Learning To Live ACOS - Sunset ============ Metropolis Pt.1
Hey, is there anyone who wants to produce a boot of this fantastic show ????? Please mail me privat.
Take The Time
Andi
************************************************** concerning bootlegs or discussion on the gig please don't mind mailing to: agriess@nf.fh-nuernberg.de
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 04:57:38 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: DT in Nuernberg/Germany Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970415045645.2116A-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, ANDREAS GRIESSING wrote:
> Hi Jammers, > > first of all I have to say sorry for my retard, I know there were
"...and my son's not so bright..."
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