YTSEJAM Digest 2461
Today's Topics:
1) Re: 5 really bad female singers
by Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>
2) Re: More Stuff
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
3) Re:CT/STP tour
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
4) Re: Dream Theater in Amsterdam !
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
6) HM review
by "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
7) Re: NJ, NY, MO
by "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
8) Re: one of the mysteries of life...
by Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>
9)
by jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk)
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2455
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
11) Please resend anything requiring a personal reply
by Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2459
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
13) "theeeeeeieieyeeeesee preciousss thingggsssss"
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
14) North & South, Rush, etc.
by Andrew Forcier <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
15) Re: ITCHAK SCHWARZBARD and nothing but ITCHAK SCHWARZBARD
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
16) JAPANESE JAMMERS (Dokken Japan tour dates)
by King of the Ytsejam <skooc@earthlink.net>
17) Re: Please resend anything requiring a personal reply
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
18) guitarrists
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
19) producer
by The Artist Currently Known as MMO <mmo@direct.ca>
20) If you don't get it - you don't get it
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:15:30 -0700
From: Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: 5 really bad female singers
Message-ID: <199704151902.MAA29221@ichips.intel.com>
>> they were better before they got the sex change and were known
>> as new kids on the block
>
>New Kids?? I thought the Spice Girls were Menudo in their past
>incarnations.
When we saw them on SNL, my wife and I agreed they were a cross
between En Vogue wannabes and the Village People...whatever they
were, gawd were they bad...
-- Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com> | If I had a witty remark that MD6 Design Engineer, Intel Corp, Hillsboro OR | would better the lives of my -=(UDIC)=- Subconscious Dragon -=(UDIC)=- | fellow mankind, do you really ** I don't speak for Intel ** | think I would put it HERE?------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:14:29 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: More Stuff Message-ID: <19970415.121509.8686.1.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
Isn't that the radio broadcast from the Shark Tank in San Jose May 1995? I would imagine the sound quality wouuld be awesome.
Scott *************************************************************************** I'm afraid of Americans; I'm afraid of the world. I'm afraid I can't help it; I'm afraid I can't. ***************************************************************************
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 06:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Soul Madness writes:
>By the way, does anyone have info on a QR bootleg called Road To >Promised Land??? Thanks much
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:14:29 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re:CT/STP tour Message-ID: <19970415.121509.8686.2.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Andrew Forcier writes:
>Can anyone confirm for me that Cheap Trick will be playing with STP >this summer? I've heard it, but seen no confirmation.
This is true.
>Apparently they've been demoted to opening act status...:P
Not really. They do club tours (just saw them about two weeks ago), but they also do support gigs so they can play to a larger crowd. They're also promoting a new cd to be released 4/28 here in the States called Cheap Trick (it's already out in Japan)
Scott
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:14:48 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Dream Theater in Amsterdam ! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970415150306.2977A-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Mark Bredius wrote:
> about 10 minutes after the show started. Still, it would have been > so much cooler, if I had been able to see them with the guys I was > supposed to meet. Missed my last chance to meet U-dAZ face 2 face.
Man, I hate to see stuff like this. We're generally so tight-knit as a group online, that it's just that much cooler to meet in person.
My recommendations for all jammers going to the upcoming shows:
1) Wear any Ytsejam articles you have. Your Awake tour shirt doesn't count, because everyone has one. But only we have Ytsejam shirts. It makes finding other jammers much easier.
2) If you don't have any Jam gear, wear something noticeable, and tell people about it. For instance, "I will be wearing my green UVM baseball cap that I have worn to every Dream Theater function there has been. If you see a green UVM cap, I'm wearing it. Come say hi."
3) Meet right in front of the stage about 5 minutes after the end of Metropolis. Most of the crowd will have dispersed away from that area, it won't be very noisy, and it's (supposed to be) extremely visible from the whole club/hall/arena/whatever. Eventually, you'll be a group of people, and that will make you even easier to spot.
4) Talk to people, especially people wearing Jam shirts or such other notables like green UVM hats. A simple "Are you on the Ytsejam?" will suffice. Either the person will say, "Yeah, I'm so-and-so," or will say "Huh?", at which point you can ignore them and move on to the next face in the crowd. (Unless he/she is particularly attractive or famous. :)
Dream Theater events (particularly concerts) are far more fun if you can spend them with other jammers. For instance, one huge collection of voices screaming "PLEASE DON'T GO!" is far more effective than many voices dispersed evenly through the crowd, and you won't feel so awkward if you're not the only person around that does it.
> About Derek : > > He looks like he walked straight out of a bad "Starsky and Hutch" > episode (is there one?)
I didn't know there were good ones. :)
> > BUT HOLY SHIT THIS GUY IS PHUQING AMAZING ! > > I mean, Kevin Moore is, was and will always be brilliant, but I'm > certainly not going to have any problems getting used to Derek !!
Seeing is believing.
> Here's the bad news (I think). James mentioned they would go back > to the US and record the ALBUM right away. No mention of a double > album or EP. I'm not ruling out either one, but I think the EP is > the way they will go. I'm sure we'll know pretty soon, though....
Don't sweat it. I inferred from Mike that everything will eventually be released in one way or another, whether it's a double, or a single and ep's, or a single and imports, or a single and fan club cd's, or whatever. Remember, this is an INFERENCE and not fact. Just my gut feeling.
Hope everyone gets to enjoy the upcoming shows with other jammers! -d
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary & Webmaster cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:14:29 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest Message-ID: <19970415.121509.8686.3.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 09:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Michael Lafser writes: >no doubt sucks
So do you, but you don't see me whining about it. ;-)
>im sick of people whining
Then shut the fuck up ;-)
>like that chicks life is so hard
I don't remember anyone saying she's had a tough life.
>i hate trendy crap that is just an imitation of something else
I wouldn't call No Doubt trendy. They've been around for 10 years now. Just because they finally got a chance to live their 15 minutes of glory doesn't mean their bad.
>DT are the gods of all gods
DT is an incredible band filled with extremely talented musicians, but Satan is the one *true* god of all gods (insert favorite sarcasm symbol here)
>im done
Like I'm sure your girlfriend has said many times, that was quick. }:-)
Scott
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:23:54 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: HM review Message-ID: <199704151929.OAA07167@Walden.MO.NET>
>I don't trust HM's reviews at least when i was reading the mag 3 >years ago. Their reviews make bad comparisons, so I don't generally >trust it. Last time I bought a xian CD, Torman Maxt, it sounded >nothing like Rush, DT, Kansas as the ad in Hm claimed it sounded >like. I've been subscribing to the mag for about 7 years now, so I know what their reviews generally are like (at least their more major reviews. I haven't heard many of the indie bands they reviewed). And it was the ad in HM that compared TM to Kansas, Rush and DT, not a review. The band paid for the ad to be put in the mag, that wasn't necessarily the opinion of the magazine (I haven't heard much of TM, so I have no opinion of them). They do have some reviews I agree with, but not always (like nearly any other mag). BTW, for any Saviour Machine fans out there, there's a good interview with them in the latest HM.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:28:51 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: NJ, NY, MO Message-ID: <199704151934.OAA08182@Walden.MO.NET>
>>fucking New Jersey? Is that like Flushing New York? >Maybe you were thinking of Intercourse, Pennsylvania? Hey, what about Licking, MO? (I actually know people from there :)
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:25:08 -0700 From: Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: one of the mysteries of life... Message-ID: <199704151911.MAA29940@ichips.intel.com>
> Well, yesterday was quite a day. I was supposed to go to the Dream > Theater concert with a friend of mine. He would drive us there. At > 4:30pm he called me from work & told me he couldn't go ! There was > some major crisis at work, and his boss wouldn't let him leave :-( > I was going to meet up with sum people I know from the Ytsejam and > IRC. I had only one hour left to find someone else to go with, in > order to make that meeting. By the time I realized I wasn't going
Just a quick, stupid question: How in the hell do some people get ASCII email messages completely right justified without adding any extra spaces? I see this every once in a while, and whenever I do, I can't help but pour over each line and look for that extra spacing that logic tells me MUST be there.
<sigh> I've been working way too hard...
-- Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com> | If I had a witty remark that MD6 Design Engineer, Intel Corp, Hillsboro OR | would better the lives of my -=(UDIC)=- Subconscious Dragon -=(UDIC)=- | fellow mankind, do you really ** I don't speak for Intel ** | think I would put it HERE?
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:33:38 -0400 From: jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk) To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <v01540b02af7986c0f845@[128.197.9.223]>
>So Mr. LaRue, ya wanna know about the PL tour. Well aside from >the simple fact that it RULED!!!!!!! It more than ruled.
>all of PL, with full band Someone Else as encore #2 Acutally, unless you saw a special show, it wasn't really the full band version. Eddie Jackson wasn't on stage, and it sounded more like the album version, even though Michael Wilton did some nice leads and Scott Rockenfield did light percussion.
>Spreading the Disease (??? not sure on this one) That was in the show.
>Three other pre-Mindcrime songs They would be "NM 156," "Screaming In Digital" and "Neue Regel." I wasn't familiar with _Rage for Order_ at the time, and I've heard that the latter two were done only in part, but I'm not sure.
>I think, however, the reason they played all of PL was because >it is a concept album of sorts. Also, there were only ten new songs ("9:28 AM" doesn't really count as more than the intro tape). I'm also wondering if they played all of it to promote it, since sales were a little down. (They didn't do as much of _Empire_, but most of the people at those shows had the album already.)
>I think they won't play all of HitNF, >but probably at least 8-9 of the 14 songs I wouldn't expect all fourteen in one show, but I hope they rotate them a little. (This could be just wishful thinking. Van Halen and Aerosmith do this, but it seems like most other hard rock bands just do the same set list every night.)
To everyone who doesn't ignore my posts (all two of you): I intern at a college radio show, and my DJ will be gone this weekend. So the show is mine. Not that anybody will listen, but I thought it would be nice to have Dream Theater as the artist of the week (he has a featured artist on his show each week). I'm open to suggestions of what to play and/or how to approach it.
Jeff Falk Box 3208 700 Commonwealth Avenue Boston, Massachusetts 02215 (617) 352-8639 jefffalk@bu.edu
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:38:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2455 Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.970415153544.94252D-100000@elk.uvm.edu>
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 ytsejam@ax.com wrote: > > I find it interesting that someone says No Doubt sucks and > then uses Toad The Wet sprocket as an example of a good band. > Every band has a right to exist and if someone doesn't like them > I can live with that; but *Toad* ? Sheesh!
Toad is a great band. Stupid name, but a great band. Richie
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:34:25 -0500 From: Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Please resend anything requiring a personal reply Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=GE%l=AMERIDATA/ADNC/001E6140@msb01ncadctmsge.ameridata.com>
Please resend anything requiring a personal reply as my personal system was down, and our corporate system T1 connections were temporarily down due to the weather/flood problems in Minnesota. I do not think I'll have time to read much of the backload of personal email now sitting in my mailbox.
email: Randall.Braun@gecits.ge.com **"I'm looking California and feeling Minnesota" from "Outshined" by Soundgarden**
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:09:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2459 Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.970415160338.94252E-100000@elk.uvm.edu>
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
JM said they
He actually spoke? :)
> are looking at Kevin ____ as producer for the album. I thought I had it > locked away, but it slipped out. I think the last name began with an 'S' > though.
I DON'T MEAN TO START A RUMOR HERE, but could you possibily be referring to Kevin Shirley? He's a really hot producer right now, having worked w/ Silverchair, and the new ones from both Journey and Aerosmith. It might be him because after the petition, the label would be more likely to shell out the big bucks to pay for a name brand producer. Oh yeah, in case you didn't catch it the first time: I DON'T MEAN TO START A RUMOR HERE.
Richie
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:39:23 -0500 From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: "theeeeeeieieyeeeesee preciousss thingggsssss" Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970415203923.0076a938@mail.inlink.com>
> >>What was your number for PT. Just want to know when to expect >>mine. Thanx >#34. You're welcome :). #24. MOOOOOOOO!
well, i GOT IT TODAY!@ now i wont have to kill myself in relapse. Packaging-ly speaking, this is bahr's best work.. content-ly speaking, this is bahr's tied best work with AD :) sound-quality-speaking, this also ties with AD :) first of all, IT FINALLY SAYS "DREAM THEATER"! WOO HOO! second, the back cover of the cd is very nice, threw in a picture of the band and added some kick to it. and scotchman's cover, as always, puts the cherry on top. i'll be back after a few listens about the tunes on it i'm sure :)
~Rip
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:42:14 -0700 From: Andrew Forcier <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: North & South, Rush, etc. Message-ID: <199704152041.AA11604@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hello, Hmmm... It seems to me that since the rush-mgr on the Rush NMS list banned all scalping of tickets, the scalpers moved here. Case in point:
>Got 2 Rush tickets for the May 25 show at the Woodlands-Mitchell >Pavilion(ahhh yeah!) in Houston, TX ....20th row, left side, 60 bucks >each.... anyone? anyone?
Do the words face value mean anything anymore? > From: Andy
AAARRRGGGHHH!!! Jon, Jon, Jon... It's Andrew, it's Drew, it's Stodgers, hell it's even Asswipe Johnson! But it is never ever Andy! (My name of course...) You're forgiven this once, but do it again and I'll put a pox on your name...:-) >I just have 3 numbers for ya, Andy: 128 :) NORMAL?? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Okay, I'll hold back the pox cause it's in the same post. :-) I must admit, 128 is an abberration of modern infrastructure that still baffles me. But it does not even compare to NJ 287: there is a point where this road, marked south, actually goes NORTH! And vice versa, of course. That is still messing with my brain! Not to mention that the Parkway seems to have the slow lane all the way on the left and the fast lane on the right. It's kill or be killed in this state, and that's before you even step out of the car... Oh... And did I mention: NEW ENGLAND RULES!!!! Okay, none of the sports teams, just the region...
Stodgers, Drew, Andrew... but never Andy
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:46:34 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: ITCHAK SCHWARZBARD and nothing but ITCHAK SCHWARZBARD Message-ID: <199704152046.NAA13322@gms.gmsnet.com>
How can we compete for frequent poster of the Jam when Chris replies to his own posts??? Heheheheh
-The Doc
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:49:19 -0700 (PDT) From: King of the Ytsejam <skooc@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: JAPANESE JAMMERS (Dokken Japan tour dates) Message-ID: <199704152049.NAA13603@denmark.it.earthlink.net>
Hi!
This came from the Dokken list.
>There was an announcement of Dokken's Japan Tour.
>June 10 Kawasaki, club chitta >June 11 Tokyo,akasaka BLITZ >June 13 Nagoya,diamond hall >June 15 Fukuoka,drum logos >June 16 Osaka,kousei-nenkin hall >June 18 Tokyo,sun-plaza hall
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:51:29 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Please resend anything requiring a personal reply Message-ID: <199704152051.NAA13356@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, Randall Braun said:
>X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63
^^^^^^ No wonder he has problems with mail...
>Please resend anything requiring a personal reply as my personal system was >down, and our corporate system T1 connections were temporarily down due to >the weather/flood problems in Minnesota. I do not think I'll have time to >read much of the backload of personal email now sitting in my mailbox. >
This is asking for trouble on the jam... hehehe
Go get im boyz!!
By the way, did I tell you guys I got Eric Johnson on DAT?
-The Doc
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:56:06 -0500 From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: guitarrists Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970415205606.0075e4d8@mail.inlink.com>
> >By the way, did I tell you guys I got Eric Johnson on DAT?
that's nothing, i got John Petrucci in my closet =) ~Rip
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:00:46 -0700 (PDT) From: The Artist Currently Known as MMO <mmo@direct.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: producer Message-ID: <199704152100.OAA03475@aphex.direct.ca>
Could it be Kevin Shirley that Myung was referring to? (Silverchair - Frogstomp, Aerosmith - Nine Lives)
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:58:57 -0700 From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> To: Sarcastically Impaired Adults <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: If you don't get it - you don't get it Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970415235857.00689c38@pop.pipeline.com>
Chris Ptacek wrote:
>honestly, I don't care. That's not my intention. I thought some people >might agree with me, that the thread was getting out of hand, and so I >made a joke. It's not like I ran over your dog with my monster truck >(yet). > >- Chris >
hey, man. How do you fucking get off threatening the man's fucking dog? I will not have any fucking body threatening to knock off the man's pooch on *MY* list. The next person who fucking threatens to cap a fucking domestic pet is OUTAHERE!! Unsubbed! Outshined! (What does that mean?) Do you value your fucking jammership? Then cut out the threats, or... or...I am turnin' ya over to SKADZ.
GO WINGS!
Kevin
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