YTSEJAM Digest 2468
Today's Topics:
1) Re: G3 Tour
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
2) Re: f*#&%*@ acronyms!
by alex fraser <fraser@stolaf.edu>
3) Re: Platinum facts and Vermont
by Brian Anderson <bda109@email.psu.edu>
4) New Live - NDTC
by "Kasper, Robert" <RKasper@aus.etn.com>
5) Re: NDTC: Riddle
by Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
6) New Strapping Young Lad album?
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
7) JP CLINIC IN COPENHAGEN, DENMARK
by Thomas Andersen <totte@vip.cybercity.dk>
8) Re: f*#&%*@ acronyms!
by Polo Santos <ytse_jammer@mail.utexas.edu>
9) possible tour? (DTC!)
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
10) why the album is delayed
by Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
11) cancel subscription
by srhargra@students.wisc.edu (Steven R. Hargraves)
12) devin's singing
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
13) Angra, SDTC, the guy with the DOS problem.
by "Dan Souza" <soyza@ibpinetsp.com.br>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2467
by "David Palumbo" <dpalumbo@remus.rutgers.edu>
15) New Stuff
by Nathan Smith <nathasm@BGNet.bgsu.edu>
16) NDTC - Marshall Amps tech question, Angra
by vanzin@dks.com.br
17) Re: QR PL Land Tour Boot
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
18) list
by christopher delp <cld@azstarnet.com>
19) Monopoly Soundtrack
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:14:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: G3 Tour
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970416171215.5692C-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Albert Balkiewicz wrote:
> By the way, for all those who may not know, the PNC Bank thing
> is the new name for the Garden State Arts Center. I figure maybe
Man, how *dumb* is that? I mean, "Gee-Sack" was so easy to say. Now it's
"Peein' See Ack"? "Pink Ack"? Bah. Next thing you know, they'll rename
the arena at the Meadowlands after an airline or something.
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 16:14:17 -0500 (CDT)
From: alex fraser <fraser@stolaf.edu>
To: "Ytsejam International House of Pancakes (and Mailing List)" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: f*#&%*@ acronyms!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970416161316.21681B-100000@lars.acc.stolaf.edu>
On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Chip Alexander wrote:
> Hey-
> I'm pretty new to this list, and joined out of a general interest in
> prog music rather than a specific interest in DT. As you may guess, I
> am woefully ignorant of the meaning of many of the acronyms that get
> used on this list. I'd really appreciate it if someone would send me a
> brief list of what they stand for.
> Thanks
check the FAQ (that's Frequently Asked Questions) :P
http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
tah,
id
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:17:06 -0400
From: Brian Anderson <bda109@email.psu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Platinum facts and Vermont
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970416211706.00686190@email.psu.edu>
Mr. Digital Man wrote:
>> The last two words on Vermont:
>>
>> BEN & JERRY'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Yeah, but where did they grow up? Long Island.
>
>:)
And where did they learn how to make Ice Cream?
Penn State!
Anyway . . . .
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:31:49 -0400
From: "Kasper, Robert" <RKasper@aus.etn.com>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: New Live - NDTC
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_ATTMAIL%p=ETNWHQ%l=EXCHANGE-970416213149Z-28165@sentry.bev.etn.com>
Hey all!
Don't know if anyone out there likes Live. I had their "Throwing
Copper" CD, and wasn't too impressed. There's some interesting vocal
mixing, almost as if the vocalist is the second guitar in this band.
But nothing really reached out and grabbed me about them... just
another alternative rock band.
Well, I listened to their latest release "Secret Samadhi" at
Blockbuster... and I have to say they've surpassed the previous album,
and actually show a lot of pizzazz. Maybe it's less produced than the
last, not as mixed and remixed - more of an authentic sound. I
understand that they ROCK in a live show. "Lakini's Juice", the first
single off of the new album, simply rocks out!
If your tastes include some alternative bands such as Soundgarden,
Pearl Jam, or even R.E.M. - you'll enjoy this CD.
Oh well, enough of that. Now I'll probably get flamed for talking
about something other than prog on the 'Jam... sue me.
Rob
"Sled dogs after dinner, close their eyes on the howling waste.
Kurt Cobain, reincarnated, sighs and licks his face.
They drift past strips of Serengeti, and the deeps of Sleepy Hollow,
too.
You can pause and wonder,
They paused and wondered, and
Yea I paused and wondered, too."
"don't wake daddy"
The Tragically Hip
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:59:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: NDTC: Riddle
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95L.970416175822.6754C-100000@unix17.andrew.cmu.edu>
On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, James Garrett wrote:
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> I found this on another list although I changed it a little.
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> James G
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> Q: How many Ytsejammers does it take
> to change a light bulb?
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> A: 854:
>
> 1 to change the light bulb and to post to the jam
> that the light bulb has been changed
Okay, the light bulb was out, but it's okay now, I changed it.
-maximilian
Anton Max
MadMax+@cmu.edu
http://thunderdome.pc.cs.cmu.edu/aepithex.html
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:03:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New Strapping Young Lad album?
Message-ID: <199704162203.SAA21751@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Can anyone tell me about the new album by SYL?
I picked up the "heavy thing" album mainly because I'm a HUGE
fan of Devin's singing on the Vai album and on Working Man.
I was pretty disappointed with the SYL album though. He never
SINGS on it - mainly just screaming. Also the music was really
close to being pure noise. Does the new album have any actually
singing, similar to his work on Sex and Religion?
Is the musical style any different?
Thanks!
-- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \ / / L. Jason Hartman "And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend \ \ lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu And I'll never be open again / / And I'll have no more dreams to defend \ \ Univ. Of Maryland, And I'll never be open again " / / Baltimore County - Kevin Moore : Dream Theater \ \ / / "Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot." \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 00:16:40 +0100 From: Thomas Andersen <totte@vip.cybercity.dk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: JP CLINIC IN COPENHAGEN, DENMARK Message-ID: <332C7F58.2C22@vip.cybercity.dk>
JP IS SHOWING UP IN COPENHAGEN AT THE COPENHAGEN JAZZHOUSE....AND I GOT TICKETS.....HEHE THIS IS SO GREAT.....CANT WAIT....
WELL......CYA
TOTTE
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 16:17:55 -0500 From: Polo Santos <ytse_jammer@mail.utexas.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: f*#&%*@ acronyms! Message-ID: <33554203.24AD@mail.utexas.edu>
Chip Alexander wrote: > > Hey- > > I'm pretty new to this list, and joined out of a general interest in > prog music rather than a specific interest in DT. As you may guess, I > am woefully ignorant of the meaning of many of the acronyms that get > used on this list. I'd really appreciate it if someone would send me a > brief list of what they stand for. > > Thanks > > *-----------------------* > | chips@eden.com | > |-----------------------| > | tca.sdi@ix.netcom.com | > *-----------------------*
Head over to the FAQ. Chris wrote down most of the acronyms, and they're at the top of the FAQ :) http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
Polo
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:58:23 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: possible tour? (DTC!) Message-ID: <199704162258.PAA101160@kitts.u.arizona.edu>
Okay, so if Pantera is doing Ozzfest, then who is touring with Megadeth this summer? Remember the Megadeth/Dream Theater tour rumor? Hmmm...What about Megadeth/Queensryche? Jus' some thoughts.
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
If you like that there rock 'n roll, check out: http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:58:22 -0700 From: Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: why the album is delayed Message-ID: <3355598E.18B8@ou.edu>
.. just a suspicion...
They're waiting to record until Derek has grown out his hair, so he'll look like the others in the band.
jazzmin
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:13:17 -0500 From: srhargra@students.wisc.edu (Steven R. Hargraves) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: cancel subscription Message-ID: <199704162313.SAA64600@audumla.students.wisc.edu>
What the address to cancel my subscription?
steve.
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:13:42 -0500 From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>, lhartm1@gl.umbc.e Subject: devin's singing Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970416231342.00725aa4@mail.inlink.com>
> >I picked up the "heavy thing" album mainly because I'm a HUGE >fan of Devin's singing on the Vai album and on Working Man. >I was pretty disappointed with the SYL album though. He never >SINGS on it - mainly just screaming. Also the music was really >close to being pure noise. Does the new album have any actually >singing, similar to his work on Sex and Religion?
a background on devin- he hates melody and hates guitars and hates all things nice almost. he wasnt too interested in doing the vai album, except that he wanted to see if he could get steve vai to run around in his underwear in the snow. regardless, devin got steve to run around in the snow in his underwear, but i'm afraid you wont find much singing on the new SYL album :)
~Rip
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 21:11:53 -0300 From: "Dan Souza" <soyza@ibpinetsp.com.br> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Angra, SDTC, the guy with the DOS problem. Message-ID: <199704162155.VAA16658@server.ibpinetsp.com.br>
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Chung said:
> From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng) > Subject: Angra / Brazilian imports > > I've got a co-worker who is coming back from Sao Paulo, Brazil in 3 weeks. > I've asked him to grab as much ANGRA merchandise/CDs as possible, but I was > wondering if there was any other Brazilian prog-metal that I should tell him > to look for. I can't imagine that I'll have this opportunity again, so any > help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks - Chung in NYC > ------------------------------
Humm.. I heard about a band called WIZARD, but I've never listened. They sound like Angra (I don't know! Just passing the info) and they have 2 CD's. The japanese jammers might know'em.. :) Well, Dr Sin is pretty cool too. Not the vocals, but the instrumental. Very very good. About Angra, I went today at some CD stores to buy my own copy of Freedom Call (that I am listening now.. WOW!! It's amazing..) paid 12 dollars at Empire Records. I don't know.. only the brazillian version have those 2 bonus acoustic tracks recorded at FNAC, France? At the same place they have Holy Land for 9 dollars, BUT it's crappy. For some print error (wtf!) the 4th track keeps keeps keeps... keeps... POW! What about this: a boot video at that Unplugged show, featuring Time Machine! Any european jammer have seen this alive?? I wanna know! :) Btw, it's in Sao Paulo, if you want more info email me privately.
DTC:. At the same place they have a list (that of course I signed) to bring DT to Brazil. HEY BRAZILLIAN JAMMERS!! TODO MUNDO NA GALERIA ASSINANDO A LISTA!! :))
========================== > From: merlin@castlegate.net (Merlin) > > please delete me from your mailing list
Ytse:/> deltree Merlin@castlegate.net.*
If anything else fails, run in circles, scream and cry.
:-)
Bye!
* Dan Souza * soyza@ibpinetsp.com.br "It's all about peace and love and good hapiness stuff."
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:23:17 -0400 From: "David Palumbo" <dpalumbo@remus.rutgers.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2467 Message-ID: <9704162023.ZM26247@remus.rutgers.edu>
Sorry to breach netiquette, but I have no idea how to unsubscribe from this mailing list..Can the listserv operator kindly unsubscribe me? Great mailing list, I just don't have the time anymore though...Thanks so much.
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:36:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathan Smith <nathasm@BGNet.bgsu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New Stuff Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970416203409.22335A-100000@bgnet2.bgsu.edu>
I was wondering if anybody has boots, demos, copies, whatever of the stuff off the new album? I want to do a 2:1 trade for them. If you are willing to trade then email me. ---===Nathan
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 21:49:54 -0300 From: vanzin@dks.com.br To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NDTC - Marshall Amps tech question, Angra Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.17.4.16.-11.49.54.2579404677.665190@dks.com.br>
Hey there,
Sorry to post this in this list, but I couldn't think of anywhere else where I could reach guitar/bass players for help. :) I have a Marshall Valvestate 8040, and from some time the "boost" channel is not giving me the same good sound as before. I think it has something realated to the valve (a 12AX7? I don't feel like opening the cab right now :) ), maybe pretty old (uh, 2 years?). It's not a big problem now, as I'm basically using the RP-12 for the distortion, but sometimes I like to hear the Marshall sound and remember when it was the only thing I had. :) So, if I am going to change them, do I need to buy exactly the same model of the original one? Or, if I don't find them, can I use some other? Thanks for any help. ------------------------------ From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng) Subject: Angra / Brazilian imports I've got a co-worker who is coming back from Sao Paulo, Brazil in 3 weeks. I've asked him to grab as much ANGRA merchandise/CDs as possible, but I was wondering if there was any other Brazilian prog-metal that I should tell him to look for. I can't imagine that I'll have this opportunity again, so any help would be greatly appreciated. ------------------------------
Have I mentioned Dr. Sin? (Yeah, I have. I always mention them. :) ) They're a pretty good band, really worth checking out. Besides that, I'm not much into brazilian bands...
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 19:49:24 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: QR PL Land Tour Boot Message-ID: <199704170148.SAA11169@odin.ax.com>
> If you are lucky, you still might be able to buy a great QR boot from the > PL tour from KTS, it is a great quality boot that runs 124:04 over 2 CD's, > I take it that it is the full show ?
Yah. That's the one I've got. The only prob is that Geoff fades in and out at times (cuz of how he holds the mike I bet) and for some reason they botched the end of I Am I and started Damaged before it was time (KTS did this, not the band. :) It's a quality boot, tho. The best QR boot I've heard yet. > . o O ( If MTV showed Dream Theater as much as this shit, they'd be > SOOOO fucking big!) It's enough to go into this corporate music > industry with a semi-automatic rifle (thanks to you die-hard right > wing Republicans for making it possible for me to still buy 'em! > ;) ) and force 'em> to listen to REAL MUSIC.
Yah. But I think if DT DOES make a vid for this album, they better not put their faces in it. I think they probably get alot of flak from the wankers who think of them as a hair metal band. Just show Derek. :) If he wears his stocking cap and plays some Phat dance chords I think they might have a chance on MTV. :) Especially if they got Alicia Silverstone to be in the video. Any video she's in sells for some god-awful reason. (Upes, religion thread. :) Strange how people will buy an album cuz they think they can score with the chick in the video if they do. :) Hell, if they like the music, then I guess that's another thing. :)
> waiting for Precious Things and my Queensryche boot "Operation: > Promised Land" if I decide to order that one. But I already have PT
NO! STOP! :) I bought that Op: Promised Land before I bought Saints and Sinners and Track 1 is all screwed up on it. My CD player can find track 2 though most others I've tried flat out won't. Then it skips during the two most important songs. Silent Lucidity and Someone Else? It may have just been my copy, but I'll just give you that warning.
> > 1 to change the light bulb and to post to the jam > > that the light bulb has been changed > > Okay, the light bulb was out, but it's okay now, I changed it.
Funny, ya know. My light bulb just went out in my bathroom last night. I hoped you used a Soft White GE bulb. Not too bright and long lasting. What kinda bulb cover do you use anyway? <g> ;)
"Idle hands are the Devil's advocate. Keep busy thine hands and forbid the Devil into thy lustful desires!" --Bishop Maynard on the subject of self arrousal. "KorgX3" ibanez@cyberhighway.net http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ibanez
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:55:19 -0700 From: christopher delp <cld@azstarnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: list Message-ID: <33552097.3DBE@azstarnet.com>
please tell me how to sign up. i used to recieve the list, but changed accts and wish to resubscribe
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:51:06 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Monopoly Soundtrack Message-ID: <199704170250.TAA11849@odin.ax.com>
Hey, anyone got that Monopoly game by Westwood yet? If so, mail me, I wanna stomp some butt over the net with it. :)
Is it me or did Bela Fleck write the soundtrack for that? :) I swear I hear Spunky and Clorissa in there somewhere. :) "Idle hands are the Devil's advocate. Keep busy thine hands and forbid the Devil into thy lustful desires!" --Bishop Maynard on the subject of self arrousal. "KorgX3" ibanez@cyberhighway.net http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ibanez
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