YTSEJAM Digest 2483
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Metallica regressing
by 2112 <belhai@drew.edu>
2) New Album
by "Dalamar" <Dalamar@bee.net>
3) You gotta check this out!
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
4) Nightmare Cinema
by cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
5) Re: DT remix cd?
by "Polo Santos" <mablung@hotmail.com>
6) Re: Metallica regressing
by Jacktallica Thetfield <thetgyi@BGNet.bgsu.edu>
7) 14 minutes extra?
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
8) Re: New Producer
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
9) Re:
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
10) Re: 14 minutes extra?
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
11) Re: 14 minutes extra?
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
12) Re: QR sounds like KX? NO!
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
13) Chicken jokes
by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
14) TRADES
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
15) A Tale of One City
by Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk>
16) Mumblings and jumblings...
by Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au>
17) THE COUNTDOWN IS NEARLY OVER!
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2482
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
19) Happy Birthday Mike
by "Emir ISILAY" <emir@prizma.net.tr>
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 00:58:19 -0500 (EST)
From: 2112 <belhai@drew.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Metallica regressing
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970421005723.711323164D-100000@drew.edu>
A friend of mine told me tonight that he heard somewhere that the new
Metallica album would be called "reload."
Thought that was cheesy as hell.
Brandon
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 01:14:01 -0400
From: "Dalamar" <Dalamar@bee.net>
To: "YtseJAM" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: New Album
Message-ID: <19970421051016437.AAA94@dalamar>
Just in case anyone decides to cut and paste these posts and send them to
the band. I just wanted to put in my wish along with everyone elses for
74mins on the new album.
-MalletMan
P.S. Mike Mainieri is God. Buy all of his CD's then find him and see him
live
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 02:33:08 EDT
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: You gotta check this out!
Message-ID: <19970420.233347.3574.5.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
So I'm at the second night of the Prince shows and the show is
spectacular as I thought it would be. Prince is in a great mood
again so he was really on. He says goodnight to break for his
encore. Just as he's coming back on they set up a small amp and
another guitar. I figured maybe he was going to do an acoustic
song or something (his next album is acoustic). All of a sudden he
comes to the mic and says:
Ladies and gentlemen - Carlos Santana.
I *literally* thought I was going to pass out! You see, he dedicated
Purple Rain (towards the beginning of thw show) to Carlos and I
heard some people talking about Santana earlier. Well, Carlos is
a local musician and I hadn't heard any news today, so I thought he
died or something because when Prince did his dedication he got
all emotional and stuff, so I was enjoying the show, but I was also
bummed because I thought Carlos was gone. When I saw Carlos
walk out on stage (I was only 10 ft away) I thought I was seeing a ghost.
Anyway, it was a *much* better tonight than the night before even though
it was about :15 shorter. Maybe by some really weird twist of fate
someone
sneaked a camcorder in there and taped it. If that's the case I'll
eventually
get it.
Scott
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 97 06:36:00 GMT
From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List)
Subject: Nightmare Cinema
Message-ID: <M.042197.083600.56@wxs3-4.worldaccess.nl>
I think the :Nightmare Cinema: song that got mentioned in the DT Bonn review
(all members on instruments they usually don't play, doing "Perfect Strangers")
should get onto a Mike Bahr bootleg CD sometime in the future. Definitely
something very, very interesting!
-- /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | Richard Karsmakers cronos@worldaccess.nl | \--------------------------------------------------------------/ C.R.I.M.E. Development; "Twilight World" Magazine; WWW-MMM "ST NEWS" ST/TT/Falcon disk magazine; "Ultimate Virus Killer" Gwar FUQ II & GEMulator FAQ maintainer P.O. Box 67, 3500 AB, Utrecht, Netherlands /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | Q: What do you do when a musician comes to your door? | | A: Pay him for the pizza. | \--------------------------------------------------------------/------------------------------
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 23:45:38 PDT From: "Polo Santos" <mablung@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT remix cd? Message-ID: <199704210645.XAA12876@f42.hotmail.com>
>From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
> >you know, with all the bands doing this remixing things.. you know, like >KMFDM and NIN n stuff.. has anyone thought of what it'd be like to let some >guys go and remix a buncha DT songs in different versions? just imagine >letting some bands and artists like chem lab, coil, terminator x (a la >public enemy) and what not get behind our favorite DT songs and churn them >out in new deminsions. i've always wanted a Hip-Hop version of Lie or an >industrial Voices :) > > ~Rip > >
I haven't!
Polo
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 02:54:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Jacktallica Thetfield <thetgyi@BGNet.bgsu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Metallica regressing Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970421024924.19403B-100000@bgnet2.bgsu.edu>
> A friend of mine told me tonight that he heard somewhere that the new > Metallica album would be called "reload."
Your friend failed to mention that it is the tentative title. Does "Mouldy" or "F.O.B.D." ring a bell? Those were the early working titles for "Hero of the Day" and "Until It Sleeps", respectively. Don't believe everything you hear ar read until the new album comes out. I think "Puppies on Acid" is even more cheesier...
Sincerely,
G. Jack Thetgyi
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "What's Up, Jack?" -Lars Ulrich, to me, before I asked James about the Rayderz; Rockline, 7/96. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 23:58:47 -0700 (MST) From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: 14 minutes extra? Message-ID: <199704210658.XAA16771@goodguy.goodnet.com>
I'm afraid they have no choice but to record 60 minutes instead of 74. It's true that they have an extra 14 minutes, but none of the new songs are short enough to fit in the remaining space. :)
(damn, I wish I weren't teasing!) - Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 03:04:30 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: New Producer Message-ID: <19970421.000556.3574.8.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
>So we've all heard it stated that DT will probably release just a >single cd this time around, and I'll guess that we all grudgingly agree that >this WILL be the case, so let me ask this. Wouldn't we all be as happy >as furry little woodland creatures to see the boys change their image >if we got a double cd release out of it? If smashing pumpkins can put one >out...
The big difference between DT's situation and SP's is that Siamese Dream was a much more sucessful comercially speaking then Awake or ACoS was. So the Pumpkins had more say in what went out. It ain't fair but that's the record business.
Scott
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 03:04:30 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Message-ID: <19970421.000556.3574.9.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
On Sun, 20 Apr 1997 18:19:15 -0700 (PDT) jsj@ix.netcom.com (J. E. James) writes: > >>Well, if it's true, he's talking about the album AFTER the next one, >>because I've seen many interviews with Lars saying album number 7 >>will be Load pt 2 because there was 2 CDs worth of material in the Load >>sessions, and Load was supposed to be a double but they decided to >>release one disk, tour, then release the other and tour again.
>Well, I heard somewhere that one of the band members (can't remember >which one) stated that they decided against that idea, and instead are >gonna do the next release with mostly new material instead of all Load > leftovers.
I met Jason at the Fresno show and asked him about the new album and he said that they had recorded some drum parts and guitar parts and that was it. But when I saw them at San Jose they played Devil Dance and James said it would be on the next album (a really heavy fucker too).
Scott
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 00:08:23 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: 14 minutes extra? Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970421000823.007f5ec0@u.arizona.edu>
At 12:05 AM 4/21/97 -0700, you wrote: > I'm afraid they have no choice but to record 60 minutes instead of >74. It's true that they have an extra 14 minutes, but none of the new >songs are short enough to fit in the remaining space. :) > Okay, how did Metallica fit 78:59 of music on Load then? I'm sure DT could drain the CD for all it's worth.
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 05:19:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: 14 minutes extra? Message-ID: <199704210919.FAA20379@newman.concentric.net>
Mike Bahr wrote,
> I'm afraid they have no choice but to record 60 minutes instead of >74. It's true that they have an extra 14 minutes, but none of the new >songs are short enough to fit in the remaining space. :)
Gee, I dunno. Let's see what happens if we add up track times. Yes, I'm aware that these times are from the demos, and not true track times. But let's suppose the numbers are accurate. Here's one possibility of selections:
1.Raise the Knife (11:15) 2.Where Are You Now (7:15) 3.Take Away My Pain (6:35) 4.Cover My Eyes (3:20) 5.You or Me (5:55) 6.Burning My Soul (9:00) 7.Lines in the Sand (13:40) 8.The Way it Used To Be (8:00) 9.Just Let Me Breathe (5:25) 10.Peruvian Skies (6:30)
Total time: 76:55
This would fit real nice on a CD. I'm sure there are other combinations of songs that will fit nicely like this. Just a thought. :)
-Rick Audet
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 02:21:36 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: QR sounds like KX? NO! Message-ID: <199704210921.CAA29812@gms.gmsnet.com>
EH... not to mention that King's X as a live band is one of THEE most incredible bands to see!!! I can prove that in one of my DAT recordings... awesome...
Oh, which reminds me... anyone have a copy of King's X World Wide Live??
-The Doc
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 97 11:28:00 +0200 From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de Subject: Chicken jokes Message-ID: <9704210928.AA00230@sundoc13.software-ag.de>
Hi all
why are prog metal chicken jokes like some prog bands? Because they just go on and on and don't know when to stop.
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: Tool - Undertow
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 02:29:43 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: TRADES Message-ID: <199704210929.CAA29880@gms.gmsnet.com>
For all those who have REQUESTED trades with me... I'm not ignoring you... just trying to blow the dust off my bootlist and actually update it... as soon as that's done... I will mail out the new bootlist... I have made a few recordings of various bands since I updated it last like NEvermore, etc...
-The Doc
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 11:08:24 +0100 (BST) From: Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: A Tale of One City Message-ID: <Marcel-1.08-0421100824-0b0rZWN@mor.apsoft.co.uk>
Well, I got back from Amsterdam. I had such a good time! The concert was awesome, of course.
As well as having fun with The Guys (Mark, Rudy, Bart, and Bart's friend whose name I can't spell and can barely pronounce), I met a couple of other jammers at the show . . . Steffen from the German fan club, and Dennis from the Dutch fan club, I think. Great guys. Having a Ytsejam t-shirt definitely helps!
So where the hell were you, Itchy?!?!?!? We all waited in front of the stage, on the right, after the show. A few other jammers found us there, so I'm sure you could have too if you'd tried hard enough!! :-)
> From: Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com> > > [snip] NL which is a very fun country to visit if > you enjoy having a good time.
Oh yeah ;-)
> First and foremost, thanks to past and present jammers who got me tickets. > Really decent of you.
Hear hear. Rudy van IJzendoorn, you are my hero!
> Finally, hello to Bart, Rudy (rip), Graham and Cob - had a lot of fun > watching fat Frank sing Wild Thing, etc. !!
I had nightmares about it!!! What an incredible evening :-)
> To Graham - beware of all that cola. Could be a sign of a problem. > Have you fallen asleep yet ?? Should have gotton right back on the horse.
Yup, you're right. Maybe Frank would've seemed sexier if I'd been back on the beer . . . ;-)
Graham
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 21:06:32 +1000 From: Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mumblings and jumblings... Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970421210632.006a7464@powerup.com.au>
>One thing I will say for Shirley is that he seems to be >very adaptable. He made Aerosmith sound like Aerosmith and Journey sound >like Journey so I think DT is safe in his hands.
You mean he'll make DT sound like Aerosmith and Journey? :)
>The weird thing is that I had floor seats for the opening night of the >TfE tour, but none of my friends like Rush, so I wound up going alone. >The big thing is that I had bought 2 tickets. I figured it wouldn't be >hard to scalp. WRONG. They show WASN'T SOLD OUT, and almost no one >wanted to buy the ticket when they could get bleacher seats at the door.
I had floor seats for Poison once... probably not quite the same thing.
I had floor seats for Steve Vai as well, but the less said about that the better.
On to other things...
I'm looking forward to being indirectly thanked in a band's liner notes for the first time (I'm assuming we'll be acknowledged...). I'd never heard of DT when A Change of Seasons was released, so therefore I wasn't an 'online Ytsejammer' or whatever it was they said in the notes - I lent my copy of ACoS to my brother, don't have it with me...
There hasn't been a flame war in the jam for a while (touch wood).
That's about all.
On to the Sept/Oct. release of the new album, and even more cries of "When will they tour Oz??" from yours truly. Beware, IRCers!
Muahahahahahaha...
D-Man assured me they'd come down eventually (didn't you, D?). This should be in the FAQ, it's a frequently asked question :-\
Of course, I'm just an attention-grubbing antipodeon (or whatever that word is).
Anyway, anyone know of any decent bands that are going to tour Oz this year? This was supposed to be my Year of the Concert (I've been to two gigs this year, my first since U2 in 1993) but it's not shaping up too well.
Ah well...
I think I need to rest now...
See yis!
Love Spiff
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 04:09:02 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: THE COUNTDOWN IS NEARLY OVER! Message-ID: <199704211109.EAA00215@gms.gmsnet.com>
Time left till 4/22 - the release of Fates Warning's A Pleasant Shade of Grey:
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It says 1 Day for all those of you who receive this all crunched up...
..as Dr. Mosh starts chanting... "Fates, Fates, Fates, Fates..."
-The Doc
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 97 08:35 EDT From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2482 Message-ID: <m0wJIJA-000B6IC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
You don't have to worry about that because I have very high respect for what Criss Oliva did for his fans while he was alive. I would never even think about making a sick joke like that. Like you said, RIP, Criss- you rule.
Don Compton
>Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 11:46:49 +0000 >From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Re: Chicken >Message-ID: <199704202126.OAA02131@odin.ax.com> > >> The Dream Theater and Queensryche chicken jokes had me laughing my ass off. >> How about one for Savatage, Fates Warning, or even some good non-prog metal >> bands??? > >Savatage - Don't even go there about drunk drivers. > >Nuff said. RIP Criss... >"Idle hands are the Devil's advocate. Keep busy thine hands >and forbid the Devil into thy lustful desires!" > --Bishop Maynard on the subject of self arrousal. > "KorgX3" ibanez@cyberhighway.net > http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ibanez > mcauburn@iinc.com http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784 ...so many times, I tried and failed to gather my courage reach again for that nail, life's been like dragging feet through sand and never finding the promised land.... Queensryche- Promised Land
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 15:31:56 +0300 From: "Emir ISILAY" <emir@prizma.net.tr> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Happy Birthday Mike Message-ID: <199704211233.PAA15998@lokum.vol.com.tr>
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