YTSEJAM Digest 2492
Today's Topics:
1) FW!!
by "H. N. Yap" <auhcy@asu.edu>
2) long-ness :)
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
3) Olaf..
by al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Dan Abosso)
4) Eve, Fates Warning
by Jeremy/John Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
5) APSOG
by Mark Hatch-Miller <ace@onfire.net>
6) another apsog raving
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
7) Fatez, naturally
by Nickelbag of Funk <dhplotki@students.wisc.edu>
8) weeeelllllll........
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
9) The alarm clock
by Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
10) CD dubs of Mike Bahr's Subconscious, Acoustic Dreams & Antiquities
by JamesArin@aol.com
11) Missing Jams
by JamesArin@aol.com
12) Cool DT stuff for SALE
by JamesArin@aol.com
13) new FATES
by 2112 <belhai@drew.edu>
14) A Deeper Shade of Soul
by Rahul Ananda <spod@u.washington.edu>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2486
by GnRBrks@aol.com
16) Primus' new drummer
by Rahul Ananda <spod@u.washington.edu>
17) Re: a pleasent cd to hear
by petedz@interaccess.com
18) New Van Halen (fwd)
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
19) Price
by strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
20) Hagar live at Cabo (NDTC)
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 18:46:46 +0000
From: "H. N. Yap" <auhcy@asu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: FW!!
Message-ID: <335D0793.3099@asu.edu>
Just HAVE to put in my 2 cents on the new Fates Warning album, it's
AWESOME!!!!!!!! I have been listening to it nonstop over 3 times now.
Well, I still don't think all the parts flow together, sounds more like
there's 12 songs instead of 1 long one. But I love it, especially part
8.
I also have my gripes about finding it: I went to Zia music store and
it took me 5 minutes to finally locate APSoG. They only had 1 copy, now
they have zero. What's frustrating was that they used to have other FW
cd's but today the only thing by FW was the cd I purchased.
that's all folks
huichi
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 20:53:54 -0500
From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: long-ness :)
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970423015354.0076cde0@mail.inlink.com>
>
>Anyway, APSoG has got ALL that shit and more. It's a LONG journey (53
>min. 48 seconds according to my CD player) so be DAMN sure to bring along
>some gas money and a spare tire.
and DONT FORGET to RELIEVE YOURSELF PRIOR TO LISTENING! you may find
yourself dancing around when this is hardly dance music :)
>
>There's just one thing I don't get, though. What's with the fucking
>alarm clock?:)
i think its kind of to prevent you from letting yourself slip into the cd
too much after its over, it wakes you up and you can contemplate it on a
freshly awoken mind in a different world.
or maybe they were worried too many people would fall asleep by part nine :)
~Rip
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:10:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Dan Abosso)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Olaf..
Message-ID: <199704230210.WAA09683@osfn.org>
Olaf (forgot your last name), if you are still on this list, please
send me an email so I can make a trade for CD videos.
- Dan
-- Strangers passing in the street, by chance Two seperate glances meet and I am you and What I see is me... - Pink Floyd------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:06:40 -0700 From: Jeremy/John Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Eve, Fates Warning Message-ID: <335D98E0.7B23@nh.ultranet.com>
I was just curious, I purchased the Silent Man single and I was wondering 1. Why the song was never put on a CD. 2. Why it was written 3. Who wrote it.
I tried to buy the Fates album tonight but I wasn't able because the stores (Circuit City and Strawberries) didn't have it. Does anyone know of a major chain of music stores that might have it? Later, J
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 19:24:47 -0700 From: Mark Hatch-Miller <ace@onfire.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: APSOG Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970422192441.00693c78@onfire.net>
I just got it, I sat upstairs looking out the window and it is pretty cloudy right now. I just sat silently in that chair for 53 minutes or so. Anyways, Id heard some Fates before (I only have Parallels), but this has to be without a doubt their best stuff ever. In fact I would go so far as to say that this album ranks up there with I&W and my favorite Rush albums. This is quite possibly the most moving, most poetic, most well conceved song in a long, long, long, long time. Noone releases anything like this anymore, and noone ever has very often really. Id have to say this is a Masterpiece. I was upset when it ended because Ill never be able to hear it "the first time" again, and that is always a special feeling when you hear something like this for the first time. And if it werent for all of you ytsejammers, I probably wouldnt have ever even bought this or gotten into Fatez at all. Thank you.
Mark ##########
so where do we begin and what else can we say? when the lines are all drawn what should we do today?
A PLEASANT SHADE OF GRAY, 1997
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:41:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: another apsog raving Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970422223243.29065B-100000@moonpatrol.rs.itd.umich.edu>
omigoshthisfookerrocks!
looks like the wait absolutely paid off....... my trials were nothing compared to some of the rest of youse finished the last undergrad class i'll ever be in, and strolled off to tower ~2:30.........and there it was, a bit high in price, but not ridiculously so......but then events conspired, so i couldn't start lisnin to it til about 8:30...........this album is simply ridiculously awesome, and, although it might be the "lack of sleep due to the exam i had this afternoon" speaking, a very draining (emotional) album.....
The thing i like about it best are the various intros and outros they do on almost every section.......they basically turned kevmo loose, and the result is some of the coolest sounds he's created since WDADU.......
wondering a bit why they chose not to name any of the sections.....i guess they don't plan on sending anything to radio stations.....although the way the lyrics break down, it's a story that doesn't break well into radio song sections.....this really is one long song, in terms of lyrics.....
section IV, V and VIII stand out after two listens......very heavy on the keyboards, they are, prolly shouldn't come as any surprise, eh?
10:40 pm, and all's well............except for those damn blues with their 2-0 lead..........at least the Avs are getting their collective arses whupped again...........
go wings!
Partha
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 20:49:01 -0700 From: Nickelbag of Funk <dhplotki@students.wisc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fatez, naturally Message-ID: <v03007800af83369c365b@[144.92.181.168]>
I now dub this the "Fatesyjam."
At this point you may bow unto their royal excellency :)
Damn, what an album!!
Best Regards...
Dave Plotkin, "On the Leading Edge of Life."
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:48:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: weeeelllllll........ Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970422224523.29065C-100000@moonpatrol.rs.itd.umich.edu>
ok, so part 4 takes a while to kick in as far as those keybaords go.... but it's still cool......even the song divisions they've made aren't part 1 = slow part 2= fast part 3= midtempo........ it's all mixed in and it all works amazingly for me....... and i keep talking about this good stuff fates has made, because those st. louie bastards just scored again :(
(oh, and i wanna see me on some mfp list sometime before the millenium) (just kidding) psm
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:55:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The alarm clock Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95L.970422224856.15797C-100000@unix18.andrew.cmu.edu>
Ok. Here's why they have the alarm clock at the end. According to Jim Matheos, this song is in realtime. The lyrics are the thoughts that go through some guys head in 53 minutes. He'd wondering what to do today. It's the beginning of the day.
Apparently he woke up an hour before his alarm went off, and just lay there listening to the rain and thinking and stuff.
Now, my only problem with this CD. What'd they do to Ray's voice on the first verse of track 12? Sounds like they slowed it down. I don't like it.
Other than that it's perfect. Why the hell hasn't everyone here bought it yet? Come on, support the boys. You have to buy it. Kevin plays on it and it lists Portnoy as an honorary Fates member. Major DT connections. Plus it's one bloody awesome CD. Not just awesome, BLOODY awesome. If you buy it and you don't like it, find a friend to sell it to. If you buy it and you do like it, find a friend and make him buy his own copy.
Come on, let's give these guys the sales they deserve. Fates! Fates! Fates!
gotta go. must hear fates. must be warned.
-maximilian
Anton Max MadMax+@cmu.edu http://thunderdome.pc.cs.cmu.edu/aepithex.html
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:14:38 -0400 (EDT) From: JamesArin@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com, metropolis@arastar.com, voices@arastar.com Subject: CD dubs of Mike Bahr's Subconscious, Acoustic Dreams & Antiquities Message-ID: <970422231243_-1634819219@emout05.mail.aol.com>
Yes it is true as the subject line states I can make you a copy of these discs on CD. Now I say again that they are COPIES and not originals from some secret stock pile. :^) I received permission from Mike to do Subconscious, Acoustic Dreams and now Antiquities and my intent is not to compete with him. I am doing this because I realize that there are a number of Jammers that missed out on these jems and I would like to help.
> A note from Mike: > Hi everyone! I can't make any more, you're all well aware of >that. It seems like what Jim's doing here is a decent enough project... I >don't even know how he's going to cover costs because I barely did when I >was using much less expensive recording media. If you missed out on >Subconscious, this is your chance to at least get a CD copy of it. It >won't be the original, numbered, valuable collectible, but it will be the >same music on CD and that sure beats cassettes! :) For the record, as the >original creator of Subconscious, I give my blessing for this project to >go forward, and he might do Acoustic Dreams later; who knows! > >MTFBWY! Mike Bahr, durnik@goodnet.com/mikebahr@dreamt.org
They WILL sound exactly the same as the originals. They WILL NOT look exactly the same as the originals. They WILL cost the same as the originals. $25 U.S each.
Shipping costs ============== Within the USA 48: free for up to 5 discs, $3.00 if more than 5
Canada, Mexico, North + South America, Alaska, Hawaii, PR: $2.00 for up to 5 discs, $5.00 if more than 5
All Europe, Asia, Japan, Australia, New Zealand locations: $5.00 for 1 or 2 discs, $8.00 for 3 to 5 discs, $10.00 for more than 5 discs.
If you send a money order I can mail the discs out without delay (usually 1 or 2 days after recieving payment, barring any unforseen problems :^) ). With a check I must wait 10 business days after I deposit it in order for my bank to tell me if it has cleared. I don't mind doing this but if you want it ASAP send a money order. :^)
SEND PAYMENTS TO:
JAMES ARIN COLBERG P.O. Box 751 BRANFORD, CT. 06405-0751 USA
Please include with your payment a note with the following information:
(Insert disc name here) Order NAME: RETURN ADDRESS: E-MAIL: # of COPIES:
Thanks, James Arin Colberg JamesArin@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:14:42 -0400 (EDT) From: JamesArin@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Missing Jams Message-ID: <970422231240_-1836292055@emout04.mail.aol.com>
Sorry to take this here but I was not able to get a few jams I missed as archives. If someone could send me 2448, 2466 & 2481 I would greatly appreciate it. :^)
Thanks, Jim
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:15:35 -0400 (EDT) From: JamesArin@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com, metropolis@arastar.com, voices@arastar.com Subject: Cool DT stuff for SALE Message-ID: <970422231247_-1065854423@emout14.mail.aol.com>
If anyone is interested in the following items please let me know. I picked them up at a record convention a while back and I still have some available. :^) The cost does not include shipping. I will figure that out when I know what you want and were you are from.
Thanks, Jim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- 1) AWAKE w/EVE mini disc from JAPAN ($30) 2) AWAKE from JAPAN without EVE mini disc ($15) 10) 12" single of LIE sealed with British fan club mag inside ($20) 13) '92 JAPAN tour pass with burning heart & girl pic (red/black) ($13) 14) '93 JAPAN tour pass with burning heart (red) ($13)(1 extra) 15) I & W Access Satin sticker passes ($8)(1 missing) 17) German Awake ($15) 19) I & W Japan ($15) 23} Awake promo pick (medium) w/ DT logo ($8)
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:16:06 -0500 (EST) From: 2112 <belhai@drew.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: new FATES Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970422231404.711615585A-100000@drew.edu>
I'll probably give some more comments tomorrow, but this CD just rocks! All you jammers who DON'T have this shopuld buy it now!!! Part 9 is very cool. The last track knocked me down. And that alarm clock...whewww. Totally unexpected. Were they trying to be Pink Floyd or something??? :)
Brandon
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 20:38:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Rahul Ananda <spod@u.washington.edu> To: Fucknuts <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: A Deeper Shade of Soul Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970422202553.49548C-100000@dante01.u.washington.edu>
So I picked up one of the three copies of A Pleasant Shade of Gray on a particularly gray afternoon. If this Matheos fucker thinks gray is pleasant, he oughta move his gray lovin' ass to Seattle and see how it feels ALL THE GODDAMN TIME.
I've never heard any Fates before, apart from what they played while opening for DT on the Awake tour. I admired the musicianship, but the music never "struck" me, know what I mean? I bought this chiefly because Kevin was on it and it promised to be at least intersting.
WOW! This song has all the stuff I like about music in it. Good musicianship, nice mellow parts that aren't boring, strong vocals, some very nimble drumming, and tasteful bass work. Do the lyrics remind any of you of T.S. Eliot's "Love song of J. Alfred Prufrock"? AND, to top it all off, Portnoy's an honorary member of Fates. Cool shit. I went back to Tower a bit later and saw that the other two copies that they had were sold. Nice to see...
Rahul Ananda : spod@u.washington.edu or thehand@dreamt.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- The universe divided as the Heart and Mind collided : At paranoia's poison door : The pen won't stay the Demon's wings : The Weaver and the Web that he made : The youngest of the family is moving with authority : Willing to risk salvation to escape from isolation : You've drowned in your soul's emptiness : Bus stop rat bag haha charade you are : Knights of the Green Shield stamp and shout : Searching for the answers but there's D A M A G E ----------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:37:37 -0400 (EDT) From: GnRBrks@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2486 Message-ID: <970422233629_-533007801@emout13.mail.aol.com>
I don't care how fucking long the album is. I just want the new material. It could only be Metropolis Pt.II and that would be enough for me. That song is reportedly 30 mins. plus. Oh yeah baby,I want as much music as we can possibly get out of DT but anything at this point would be FUCKING GREAT!!!!!!!!! All you guys in Europe are extremely lucky to see the fab five. By the way, anyone know of DT ever playing in Dallas? I am just wondering if I could count on them coming on the next tour?
Glen
Now playing on my CD player "Bombay Vindaloo" LATM.
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 20:50:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Rahul Ananda <spod@u.washington.edu> To: Fucknuts <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Primus' new drummer Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970422204613.49548D-100000@dante01.u.washington.edu>
is a guy named Jay Lane. He's on the Sausage CD, one of Claypool's side projects. Les has said in and interview that I read that Jay is his favorite drummer, ever. However, he wasn't nearly as impressive on the Sausage CD as Herb is on any given Primus release. Maybe he'll play differently in the context of Primus. I mean....David Gilmour's solo albums are aural misery, but his work with Floyd is phenomenal. Hopefully the same thing will happen.
Hmm....2 posts....I think I'll go break something now.
Rahul Ananda : spod@u.washington.edu or thehand@dreamt.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- The universe divided as the Heart and Mind collided : At paranoia's poison door : The pen won't stay the Demon's wings : The Weaver and the Web that he made : The youngest of the family is moving with authority : Willing to risk salvation to escape from isolation : You've drowned in your soul's emptiness : Bus stop rat bag haha charade you are : Knights of the Green Shield stamp and shout : Searching for the answers but there's D A M A G E ----------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:53:32 -0500 From: petedz@interaccess.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: a pleasent cd to hear Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970423035332.006937b8@pop.interaccess.com>
>the thing i didnt like about this disc: >it wasnt a 78 minute song, and only 54 ;) > > ~Rip
Rip and I agree about something! It's a gosh darned miracle. :)
Lot's of this has already been said, but Terry Brown makes Zonder sound soooo awesome. Kevin Moore and Joey Vera give this album a more spacious and intricate feeling than any FW album to date. I predict that only a phenomenal DT release will knock this from my #1 spot for '97. Recommendation: buy it now!
-- Pete Dziadzka
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 00:01:58 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New Van Halen (fwd) Message-ID: <19970422.210307.8686.12.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
>From Van Halen list
---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 20:11:52 -0400 Reply-To: vanhalen@lists.fdt.net To: vanhalen@lists.fdt.net Subject: New Van Halen
Has anyone been to the Rotalty Management site yet today?? Van Halen's new songs are done and are going to be posted for download on the 22nd!! Check out:<http://207.137.57.34/~royalty/april19.html>
Finally! Some good news!!
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 00:12:33 -0500 From: strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Price Message-ID: <v01530501af834a81a878@[207.79.6.165]>
>You know, some of us complain a lot that we have to pay high prices for >imports, but domestic CDs are getting pretty dang expensive. New Fates >was $17.99(plus tax!) FUNK! (not that I mind paying that for a Fates CD
Why did I pay $12.99? Did I get ripped off and not pay enough?
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 00:01:58 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hagar live at Cabo (NDTC) Message-ID: <19970422.210307.8686.16.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
Fuck Eddie Van Halen, Sammy's back on tour after 10 years of dealing with Eddie's shit. I can't fucking wait till he gets to SF!
Scott ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 18:35:21 -0400 From: los cabos fishing center <bajajeff@lapaz.cromwell.com.mx> Reply-To: vanhalen@lists.fdt.net To: vanhalen@lists.fdt.net, sammyhagar@mail.sonic.net Subject: Sammy's show in Cabo
Sammy played last night to a completely packed club and the show was incredible! He played several cuts off of his new record, as well as a ton of his favorite old solo songs and probably at least 5 or 6 VH tunes. The set will be different tonight I am told, but Wednesday he played (let me see if I can remember) Cabo Wabo, Dreams, Finish What Ya Started....I know there's more, I just can't remember what they were.
Although the crowd hadn't heard his new record before Wednesday (except for the ones he played for the people in Cabo last Oct.) they went absolutely nuts when they heard the new songs!
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