YTSEJAM Digest 3363
Today's Topics:
1) DT shortening their setlist.... Duh!
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@bu.edu>
2) Arkhe
by Eric Desobe <edesobe@emory.edu>
3) Re: Amorphis, TSO & Savatage
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
4) Fates/TSO
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
5) Ozzmosis with Wakeman on Keyboards
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
6) Win Ibenez guitar / DT PSA
by "Brian P. Kelley" <bpkelley@mindspring.com>
7) Who's Opening?
by Charlie Korch <korch@bellsouth.net>
8) DT Changing Setlists... Maybe They Will
by MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com>
9) Rick Osbourne Wakemanhamshire-smith
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
10) Boston Gig & Providence Info
by Jon Dery <metropolis@net1plus.com>
11) Fates/DR/Division/Circle of Nero last night
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
12) Trans-Siberian Orchestra
by Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
13) The Changing Music Industy and Merry Axemas
by "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
14) DGM
by "Jason Birzer" <Longshot@pressroom.com>
15) The Downward Spiral
by "Jason Birzer" <Longshot@pressroom.com>
16) Aryeon
by "Jason Birzer" <Longshot@pressroom.com>
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 09:31:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@bu.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT shortening their setlist.... Duh!
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.96.971214090514.82116D-100000@acs6.bu.edu>
Isaac "Sabatage" Sabetai mentioned DT having to cut their setlist short
last night to accomodate the ravers coming in later or whatever. Yes, it
does suck, but it's not solely the fault of the club management, even if
they are in the Mafia. DT could always shorten the intro music segment if
they really wanted to play everything on the setlist.
Between the last time a roadie was onstage doing anything and when the
boys (the Dream Posse, that is) hit the stage they played:
1. Speak to Me
2. The Way it Used to Be
3. The Rooster (of course)
4. That long keyboard intro thing
I think most fans would rather see DT play three more tunes LIVE than WAIT
three songs longer for them to come on, even if they are listening to the
unreleased stuff (which sucks, btw). DT is way into that "make the
stage spooky and play some canned music" thing, but it drags on soooooo
long! It's kind of like an announcer saying, "And now..... From Long
Island New York.... The masters of their art....... Presenting.....
Get ready for...... Put on your seatbelts....... The one. The
only...... Put your hands together for....." etc. for like 15 minutes.
The show was great, of course. I just want more show and less intro
fluff, and I think most fans would rather see Nightmare Cinema or just
a smidgeon of ACoS than listen to an old (but good) Alice in Chains
song.
Wacky, the guy who has seen DT 15 times and still hasn't seen
Jmuthafuckin'P publicly realize his drumming fantasy.
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 10:32:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Eric Desobe <edesobe@emory.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Arkhe
Message-ID: <Pine.WNT.3.95.971214102843.-486643B-100000@edesobe.resnet.emory.edu>
Someone mentioned Arkhe and I had to post seeing as the timing was pretty
good. Yesterday, I got Arkhe, Darkstar, and Glass Hammer (Perelandra) in
the mail and my impressions:
Arkhe - pretty good. Opening song has a smooth guitar going and I was
pretty excited, but the singer (although acent free) is not that great. A
very uneven James Labrie sound I guess. Will take some getting used to.
But the instrumental stuff is very prog, crazy, lots of keys etc. Grade B
Darkstar - the solo album from the guitarist of Psychotic Waltz. This is
a fucking cool album. Very mellow, but powerful. Lots of samples and
keys actually. Very cool. Grade A
Glass Hammer - Love this other than the singing, which is decent but
cheesy at times. Mix between ELP and early Genesis, but some very cool
songs on the album. Artwork is beautiful. Grade A-
Hope that helps, take the time.
-Eric
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:40:42 -0200 (EDT)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Amorphis, TSO & Savatage
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971214133231.30601A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Vincent G. LuPone wrote:
> I'm interested in checking out more material by this band, so if someone
> could, please post to the 'jam or write me in private and let me know your
> recommendations and/or reviews of their albums. Thanks!
You'll have problems with Amorphis if (as you wrote) you have
problems with the cookie monster vocals. The EP "My Kantele" is their
lightest release to date. If you like the style of the songs from "My
Kantele", then you'll probably like the album featuring this song. It is
called "Elegy", but keep in mind that this album has, say, 50% of the
vocals done by the death growler and the other 50% by the newer
(clean) vocalist, not like the 5/95 on the EP you have.
"Tales from the Thousand Lakes" has almost no clean vocals (and to
be honest, the clean vocals on this album are so terrible that I prefer
the death vocals).
BTW, I don't think they are very heavy also, but I have not heard
their first releases ("Karelian Isthmus" and "Privilege of Evil"), which
are said to be pure death metal. So, I can't comment on heaviness.
> Also bought TSO tonight, finally. This rocks. It's TOTALLY
> Savatage :)
Incredible, isn't it? And Tchaikovsky on guitar is much better
than what I thought at first...
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 10:47:46 -0500 From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fates/TSO Message-ID: <3.0.32.19971214104743.00694e60@mail.ici.net>
> With all this talk of Fates being so great due to their emotivemess >(I know the Fates thread is a dead horse, but this really isn't about Fates >it's about emotion and mood) I was curiou sto see people's replys to this >statement. If Apsog is great and complex simply beacuse it brings about a >certain mood and correspnding emotion.
This isn't really a reply to this statement. I just had some stuff I needed to say about Fates. :)
I saw the Fates show on Thursday in Weymouth, and it was OUTstanding. I was one of the people in the camp that didn't "get" APSOG, but after seeing it live, I have a new appreciation for the song, and the band in general. Alder was spot-on all night long, and as for Zonder....he makes that stuff look so damn *easy*. It's sickening, it really is. :)
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And a *funny* TSO story. At work, my co-workers listen to a top-40/pop/MIX station, much to my chagrin. However, lately, they've been playing TSO a lot, which is pretty cool. But appaerently, some listeners are having difficulty pronouncing the name of the band. To wit: a woman called up last week, and they put her on the air, and she requested "'Christmas Eve - Sarajevo', by that Transvestite Orchestra Band." I nearly fell out of my chair laughing.
----- _____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________ E-Mail: psull@ici.net WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html IRC: DDictator ICQ: 2049374 ______________________________________________________ It's not hard to meet expenses, they're everywhere.
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:49:07 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Ozzmosis with Wakeman on Keyboards Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971214134420.30601B-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Neal Brown wrote:
> >BTW, for people concerned with keyboards, Ozzy has(had?) Wakeman > >playing with him... > > Say WHAT?!? Man, I about shit when I heard that....what stuff is he on? > (Something tells me it's Diary of a Madman or something)
Yes.
It says here in the liner to Ozzmosis: Rick Wakeman - Keyboards. Also, there's a special participation of Steve Vai on the 8th song of this album (Vai co-wrote the song with Ozzy), "My Little Man".
> One more resounding chorus of "finals suck!!" please, before I sign off. > =P
Hopefully, my finals will be over tomorrow and I'll have more time to post to the 'jam.
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 12:04:53 -0500 From: "Brian P. Kelley" <bpkelley@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Win Ibenez guitar / DT PSA Message-ID: <199712141600.LAA00296@camel14.mindspring.com>
A little reminder to the out-of-state Jammers attending the Atlanta show:
This has been listed just recently in the Creative Loafing: "Bring in a can of food for a chance to win an Ibenez guitar." As well as winning a prized instrument, you are helping the ones less fortunate than ourselves this season. I try not to get TOO caught up in the "commercialism of Christmas", but sometimes it's easy to forget about the needy. Though there is no immediate or permanent solution to the poor or homeless, every little bit can help.
Gaw, I'm starting to sound like Sally Struthers! If I don't watch out, I may find myself tied to a skewer with apple in mouth (a la South Park :)
Take the time, Brian
"T-minus 2 days and counting..." -- DT in the Peach State
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 12:00:34 -0500 From: Charlie Korch <korch@bellsouth.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Who's Opening? Message-ID: <349410B2.630B@bellsouth.net>
Has anyone heard who is opening for DT in Atlanta?
Thanks,
Charlie
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 12:17:26 EST From: MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT Changing Setlists... Maybe They Will Message-ID: <2b119b6b.349414a9@aol.com>
Hi There -
With all this talk about DT dramatically changing their setlists, it's gotten me thinking. Maybe they WILL be. Remember that Mike P. has said that they plan on doing something very "special" for their next American tour. I think I recall hearing something like "An Evening With Dream Theater", or something like that?
So who knows? Maybe we'll be VERY pleasantly surprised? Let's hope...
Laterz.... Matt T. (who REALLY wants to hear TTT live again! :-) )
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 09:17:42 -0800 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Rick Osbourne Wakemanhamshire-smith Message-ID: <3.0.32.19971214091732.006deb04@cats.ucsc.edu>
Wakeman played on Ozzy's "Ozzmosis" -- tho Michael Beinhorn is also credited with keys, so nobody knows who played on what, or at least I don't. Oh, hey, Deen Castronovo played drums. Hmmm. Should pull out that old Working Man again ... Or maybe just go to bed. It's 9 a.m.
__ /\ __ Chris Oates: aspect@cats.ucsc.edu __\/__\/__ +---- \_||_/ | "Still awake, I continue to move along, cultivating my | /__||__\ | own nonsense" -Dream Theater, "Trial of Tears" | // \ | \\ ----+ \| http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 12:25:39 -0500 From: Jon Dery <metropolis@net1plus.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Boston Gig & Providence Info Message-ID: <34941693.5F6E@net1plus.com>
Well I did see DT last night. Good thing I didn't blink though because I might have missed them. They cut out about 1/4 of their show (roughly half an hour). During Rooster, Isaac, Mike Burnstin, Chad and I all noticed the crew crossing out various songs on the setlist. Scary. After the show, the whole Boston Jam gang was huddled around the setlist. Our hearts sank as we discovered what we didn't get:
1.Crimson Sunrise 2.Innocence 3.Darkest of Winters 4.Crimson Sunset 5.Scarred 6.NIGHTMARE CINEMA!
That is A LOT to cut out of a set. Mark Metzger had a very good point. He said that if you are going to cut material out of your show, cut the more average stuff and leave the gems like Scarrred and Nightmare Cinema (which 99% of the Boston crew has never seen or heard). Anyway...
After the show I noticed Skadz running going "Derek Wait! Derek! Derek!", so I start running in Skadz' direction. I shook Derek's hand and thanked him for a great performance. He told me it was his pleasure (or something like that). Skadz began to drill him on the Providence show. Derek seems to think that it will take place at LUPOS since the Strand is closed. (For those who don't know, Lupos is right across the street from the strand.) Skadz then asked if they were going to hang out for a while, but Drek said they had to take off right away :( so I did get to spring my setlist question on MP.
Alright, I gotta run, Jon Dery
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 12:23:55 -0500 From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fates/DR/Division/Circle of Nero last night Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971214172355.006a7fd0@pop.pipeline.com>
This can go to the jam, too. Counteract some of that negativity aimed at Fates lately. Anyone who can watch Mark Zonder play and call Fates "minimalist" needs to have his head examined.
>Ok, once again it's about noon, and I just got up! Going to bed after >three will do that to you. Yesterday I wrote about how the sound was screwed >up, and idiots reigned at Daytona's in rural AA county MD. Well, last night >was the complete opposite. Jaxx in Springfield VA boasts one of the best medium-sized >club sound systems on the east coast. As one of the fellows from DR put it, >"tonight, someone with a clue is running the soundboard." It showed. After >downing some pizza next door, we went over to the club and eventually were >let into the main room. First up was a local band called Circle of Nero. > >Circle of Nero: They were a five piece, with one guitar, bass, drums, keys, >and a vocalist. Some of these guys didn't look like they were in a rock'n'roll >band, no sir. The guitarist looked like a little greaser punk from "the outsiders" >or something :-) Anyway, they play a mid-80s style of rock, sort of like a Ratt >meets Badlands, but with worse vocals and wankier guitar. Take 'em or leave 'em. > >Division: I went up front to reserve my prime spot for later, but unfortunately >I was the only guy up there. I must have looked strange, but I didn't care. >New bassist Dan was kicking some new ass with his 6-string bass. Scott (singer) >wasn't as goofy as usual. Their new material is really starting to come together >well with this new bass player. It gives them more depth than ever before. Pretty >cool stuff. Mike, guitar stage left, got a guitar pick returned to sender ;-) > >Divine Regale: Oh, my God. There *ARE* keyboards in this band! They sounded much >better than the night before, and they sounded pretty great then. If only >they would stop kicking Chris' (drums) bass drum mic ;-) > >Fates Warning: They looked much more satisfied tonight with the sound and maybe >more importantly, the crowd enthusiasm. The people at Jaxx were there for them, >and it showed. Everyone was singing along and getting way into it. The band >looked much more pleased, and as a result we got two more songs than the night >before; Point of View, and Eye to Eye. Dwight and Chris from DR sang back-up. >Still no Aquiesence, but what can you do? They came on a little late, so they >had to leave the stage. It was funny when Ray came out, I was front row and center, >and I yelled, "RAY!!!! NO EXIT!!!" just to joke with him, and he started >cracking up. I did see three or four guys there in the crowd from the night before. >Too bad Atlanta is too far to drive and make it to work tomorrow... Overall, this >show was 100% better than the one the night before. I definitely think Fates will >be making Jaxx a regular tour stop from now on. Oh yeah, if anyone was looking >for me last night, I WAS NOT wearing the Red Wings jersey; I apologize. I was the >guy in the blue hat and brown hooded pull-over. The one who didn't look dressed >for a concert, in other words. :-) > > Green Bay Packers - The Quest to Repeat - Detroit Red Wings 11-3 19-8-5 at Panthers vs Phoenix
Kevin
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 12:41:05 -0800 From: Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Trans-Siberian Orchestra Message-ID: <34944461.6CEA@dreamt.org>
Well, you learn something new every day. I had NO idea that TSO was Savatage. All I knew was I heard it on the radio when I was in Mississippi last week and thought to myself THIS KICKS ASS!!! This is a must have for me. I love heavy/prog Christmas music. I still love Garey Hoey's Ho Ho Hoey. I have yet to get Merry Axemass, but that'll be coming soon. ========================================================================
"Are you gonna bark all day, little ----- doggie, or are you gonna ---- ------------- ---- bite?"-Micheal Madsen, ---- - ---- Reservoir Dogs -- - - - - - - - -- "Years of pain I will take and hone - - - - - - - Manifest with your broken bones - - -- - -- - - My heart bleeds for none but my -- - - - - - - - -- own"-Machine Head ---- - - - ---- "None But My Own" ---- ------------- ---- Brian ----- DreamNDay@dreamt.org ========================================================================
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 14:11:31 -0500 From: "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net> To: YtseGods <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The Changing Music Industy and Merry Axemas Message-ID: <34942F63.B11A6EDE@enter.net>
I love all the comments who guys have been coming up with on the music industry and the like.
As I learned about social and personal change is that you must be made aware of something, before you can change. Well I made a statement about the industry and you guys have put a lot of thinking into it. A lot of the thoughts and ideas I've been saying are so true and maybe by people just reading those thoughts and ideas you've sparked something someone has never thought about before. That's' how change begins, it's up to the individual to complete the change though, no matter what that's the final say in change.
How does this involve the music industry. If we want change (which will happen as someone has said - stagnation in the industry, change of tastes, loss of money and so forth) we as a group can spread the word to friends, families or even others on the internet. Plant the seed, water the seed and with a little sunlight, you may see the seed 'change' into a plant.
Of course this is not an overnight process, but hey Rome wasn't built overnight, it took two full working days!!!! :)
Well before I keep on rambling....if anyone is really interested in learning more about this crazy psychological stuff (why the hell am I - a marketer even into this stuff - you may ask) email me privately.
************MERRY AXEMAS***************
Awesome CD......every song kicks and most of the guitarists use different styles then they usually do.
PS. Check out my home page if you want to see into my global mind :0 http://www.enter.net/~bduesterhoeft/bruweb.html - I'm currently writing a book and a sample of it's on there (it's a fantasy novel - well will be).
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:07:10 -0500 From: "Jason Birzer" <Longshot@pressroom.com> To: "The Jam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DGM Message-ID: <199712141935.LAA07681@odin.ax.com>
>Amen, amen, amen, allelujia, preach it brother, et cetera. Fripp got so >sick of selling off his copyrights he took matters into his own hands >and founded a label. We can only pray that they'll go out and find new >bands to support, and not just Crimso/Fripp-related projects.
DGM is mostly Fripp related projects right now. It also has solo albums from Crimson-related artists (Tony Levin, Trey Gunn, Adrian Belew, Bill Bruford) as well. On the sampler, they do have a couple of other bands. The California Guitar Trio (who has played with Fripp), Europa String Choir, Gitbox, Los Gauchos Alemanes, Peter Hammill. It looks like the label hasn't been around that long yet, so we will see if he comes up with more bands.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason Birzer "One likes to believe in the freedom of music "The Longshot" but glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity." longshot@pressroom.com Rush - The Spirit Of Radio --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:31:56 -0500 From: "Jason Birzer" <Longshot@pressroom.com> To: "The Jam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The Downward Spiral Message-ID: <199712141936.LAA07688@odin.ax.com>
>> Second point, a downward spiral. Of course not. Pop music today is >> as bad as pop music ever was. You think the Spice Girls are bad? >> What about Nirvana, disco, the Fat Boys, Three Dog Night, the >> Carpenters, Peter Paul and Mary? It is not on a downward spiral, and >> your 5 year old nephew will almost, but probably not quite, be able to >> follow his producer's instructions well enough to make a hit record. >> No, everything stays the same.
>I disagree with this. I believe that commercial music nowadays is taking >a dramatic downward spiral. I agree that the bands you've listed are >good examples of the standard shit that plagues or has plagued the >commercial music scene, but at least these bands (underneath the >wafer-thin crap they were repsonsible for), retained some level of >authenticity (Nirvana for example), and I do say SOME level >authenticity, not a HIGH level. Also, there was far more variety in the >styles of music you'd see in the TOp 40. Today.... not so.
>Most R&B-House-Dance-Shit (RBHDS) groups going around today seem like >they're just being churned out in some huge musical printing press out >the back of Godknowswhere. I agree with you about "follow his producer's >instructions well enough to make a hit record", that's something that >hasn't changed, but the lack of intregrity, authenticity or uniquness >across the RBHDS (and any other commercially viable) bands today is >worse now than ever before.
I disagree with most of this. The music industry has always had the "musical printing press" running. In the 60s, there were millions of different little "groups" that got lots of airplay. Most of these groups were created by a producer and had songs written for them. They just performed. Sometimes it was just a "look" that they wanted. Anything to sell albums. Is this any different than Right Said Fred or Spice Girls? I think not.
The Top 40 isn't nearly as important as it was before. There isn't a "lack of variety" in the Top 40, there just AREN'T any Top 40 stations any more. They have all speciallized. You have rap stations, rock stations, adult contemporary stations, "alternative" stations, R&B stations. Top 40 as it was in the 80's is dead.
Integrety is still around. It is just harder to find. We listen to a lot of bands that have integrety. The problem right now is that there are not too many new bands that are sucessful right now. Of course, I don't listen to radio much anymore, so I might be wrong.
I disagree with the examples given by the original poster of bad pop music. I have a friend of mine who is a musician and a big fan of 70s prog who was very impressed with Three Dog Night. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason Birzer "One likes to believe in the freedom of music "The Longshot" but glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity." longshot@pressroom.com Rush - The Spirit Of Radio --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:42:28 -0500 From: "Jason Birzer" <Longshot@pressroom.com> To: "The Jam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Aryeon Message-ID: <199712141936.LAA07694@odin.ax.com>
>Any fans Of HydroToxin, Aryeon, Arkhe or TreasureLand out >in Ytseland?
You asked and you shall recieve:
I picked up Ayreon: The Final Experiment at PowerMad. It was one of those "I still have money in my pocket. What should I pick up?" decisions. I picked up this and have no regrets. It isn't a band per se, more like a project. Arjen Anthony Lucassen is the man behind this. A Dutch guitarist who wrote this Rock Opera, who used various musicians, including 13 different lead singers, to make this album. One of the lead singers is Lenny Wolf, for those who were wondering what ever happened to him. The results are quite impressive. One of the better rock operas that I have ever heard. I highly recommend this album.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason Birzer "One likes to believe in the freedom of music "The Longshot" but glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity." longshot@pressroom.com Rush - The Spirit Of Radio --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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