YTSEJAM Digest 2260
Today's Topics:
1) Shameless self-promotion. :)
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@bu.edu>
2) Re:carbonated beverages
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
3) queensryche
by John O Anderson <JOA8053@tntech.edu>
4) Thanks Steve
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
5) Cinema Paradiso clip on TTT
by Walter Semerenko <walter@orlinter.com>
6) Burtnick
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
7) dt wardrobe experiences
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
8) sifted through my record collection
by Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
9) Majesty Demos
by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
10) Re: Offensive lyrics - I need your help! (NDTC)
by eckie@asu.edu
11) Dead producer?
by Kramer <CK78729@ltu.edu>
12) smoking and singing
by Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
13) Re: Offensive lyrics
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
14) TO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE IMPATIENT
by Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
15) Re: TO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE IMPATIENT
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
16) various thread replies
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
17) Re: TO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE IMPATIENT
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
18) Lemur Voice
by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
19) Re: Speaking of Vocal Subjects...MDTC (Marginal...)
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
20) Re: Lemur Voice special at Knights Of The Round CD Kingdom (LDTC)
by "Greg R. Lee" <greg@aix.can.ibm.com>
21) Re: Offensive lyrics
by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
22) Spock's Beard and other ramblings
by BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
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Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 22:55:20 -0500
From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@bu.edu>
To: The Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Shameless self-promotion. :)
Message-ID: <32FE9C28.437@bu.edu>
Attention Boston area jammers!! This Wednesday night, February 13th, at
the Mama Kin Music Hall on Lansdowne Street in Boston, MA, there will be
a musical event like no other.
Wacky.
:)
That's right, ladies and gentlemen, I actually got a gig! The event is
a Boston University Local Student Union event and there will be several
bands performing. I will be playing one of my tunes solo (along with my
sequencer, goin' clinicstyle...) and with a band playing a bunch of
cover tunes. The song I'll be playing is new, and it's about 7.5
minutes long, chock full of the kinds of bells and whistles that DT fans
like. Or so I hope. :) If you'd like a preview of my stuff, point
your browser to http://acs.bu.edu:8001/~bwherry/ and follow the links to
the music page.
To recap:
Wed., Feb. 13th, Mama Kin Music Hall, Lansdowne Street, doors at 8:30,
show starts at 9:00.
Hope to see as many of you as possible there! If you have any
questions, feel free to email me. Seeya!
Brian
-- /* * User: Brian Wherry, bwherry@bu.edu, bwherry@cs.bu.edu * School: Boston University College of Engineering * Web: http://acs.bu.edu:8001/~bwherry/ * Quote: "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur." */------------------------------
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 97 22:57:25 -0600 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re:carbonated beverages Message-ID: <32feaab56ac2002@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>
> Also on the singing thing, I'd avoid carbonated beverages (I know > some of us can't break the Dew addiction).
You're right about that. I have a tendency to drink way too much Pepsi, and when I go on just water for a few days I notice an immediate improvement - fewer problems on the higher end of my range, better sustain, less coughing in the middle of a line because there's too much phlegmn my throat.
-Brian
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Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 23:01:19 -0600 (CST) From: John O Anderson <JOA8053@tntech.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: queensryche Message-ID: <01IF89B9IVJ68WWICN@tntech.edu>
yo, have any of y'all heard that queensryche will have a new album on march 25 called
"Hear in the Now Frontier"
check out www.emirec.com or www.scream.org for details
it's suppose to be a cross of empire and mindcrime
can't wait
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:08:57 -0500 (EST) From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Thanks Steve Message-ID: <199702100508.AAA25059@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Steve Z said... ---- This is probably the major culprit in this phenomenon. An instrument not meant to be amplified <the voice> performing not just with, but OVER other instuments invented to be amplified. It's just not fair.
If we want to blame someone, we should blame the guitarists who insist that they have to turn up so loud "for the tone, man!" ----
I just wanted to publicly thanks Steve for not blaming this on the drummers who insist they play loud "for the tone, man!" I'm sure that is what he REALLY wanted to say but didn't, since *I'm* on the list. :)
-- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \ / / L. Jason Hartman "And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend \ \ lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu And I'll never be open again / / And I'll have no more dreams to defend \ \ Univ. Of Maryland, And I'll never be open again " / / Baltimore County - Kevin Moore : Dream Theater \ \ / / "Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot." \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:16:27 +0000 From: Walter Semerenko <walter@orlinter.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Cinema Paradiso clip on TTT Message-ID: <B0000033601@chicago.orlinter.com>
Hey all,
I realized that the Italian sound clip in TTT right before the instrumental interlude is from Cinema Paradiso. If anybody hasn't seen this film, go out and rent this film! This film was won Best Foreign Film for its release year. It is about a boy who grows up and has a fondness for cinema. His older friend, Alfredo, who runs the movie projection teaches the boy to run it too. They develop a bond of friendship over the years. Alfredo has a tragic accident that makes him blind, thus saying in the movie "I can see much clearer now I'm blind." This film is warm and nostalgic, and a real tear jerker, so you might need some tissues at the end. I know many people who cite this as their favorite film of all time. It's a classic.
Walter.
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:05:47 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Burtnick Message-ID: <199702100603.AAA16814@Walden.MO.NET>
>Prater also produced Glen Burtnick's two 80's solo albums... Hehe, that was the dude (GB) who did that tune on Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure soundtrack. WOO HOO!!!!
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:18:43 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: dt wardrobe experiences Message-ID: <199702100616.AAA23224@Walden.MO.NET>
Hmm. Well, I wore my ytse-shirt to a punk show (hey, it was sorta fun :) and a dude wearing some death metal shirt came up and said "COOL! A Dream Theater shirt!" I didn't figure anybody there'd know who DT was, so that was sorta cool and unexpected.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 97 00:26:16 -0600 From: Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: sifted through my record collection Message-ID: <32febf8669b1004@cliff.ou.edu>
.. I have about 200 records to sell. The list includes a lot of Hendrix, some King's X singles (one autographed), Zebra, Elvis, early 60s "rock", Yes, Rush, Prince, several Pink Floyd bootlegs... just all sorts of stuff.
Anyone interested, email me and I'll send you a list. (Bid, and you pay postage.)
(Just think of what we KEPT!)
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:26:54 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Majesty Demos Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970210012526.2735A-100000@colrain.williams.edu>
Friends, I know I'm a baby Ytsejammer of six months, but ar e the Majesty demos still available in Germany and, if so, can one of our German Jammers get them for me. I'd be totally willing to pay S&H and all. Thanks. Be well. Matt B
==================== "You are all weirdos. Hmph." (Sam the Eagle, The Great Muppet Movie)
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Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 23:53:26 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Offensive lyrics - I need your help! (NDTC) Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970209235209.22214B-100000@general4.asu.edu>
On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, The Digital Man wrote:
> Hey, gang. My mother works at a college on Long Island, and they have > some sort of "Awareness Day" or some such thing coming up. My mother > wants to give a presentation on bands that have offensive lyrics and/or > themes in their music. It's been a while since I've listened to stuff > like Slayer (as an example), and I've never really gotten much into death > or goth or anything, so I don't know what to tell her about! I would > appreciate it greatly if any of you could give me: > > - Bands that have this sort of content > - What sort of badness they sing about (gender/racial badness, > theological badness, etc...) > - Any web pages that exist about these bands > - Samples of particularly bad lyrics
Marilyn Manson cums to mind.
So what if I fucked up the name, I extremely dislike 'em.
~Eckie
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:16:32 -0500 (EST) From: Kramer <CK78729@ltu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dead producer? Message-ID: <01IF8G6TGHJ691VSE7@ltu.edu>
I'm sorry for being ignorant, but what's this about Dream Theater's producer dying? Someone they started work on the album with?
-C
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 97 01:18:37 -0600 From: Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: smoking and singing Message-ID: <32fecbcb0956002@cliff.ou.edu>
BAD! BAD! BAD!
Forget the socially unacceptable bullshit, I know a lot of people who smoke say it's great for their stress -- whatever, who cares.
I don't smoke (I suspect I would enjoy it if I started) because I have heard what it does to people's voices. Women in particular (think of Marlene Dietrich) -- shudder!
ObGrody: Coupla days ago I got a catalogue from a company selling "life-like" simulated lungs (healthy and nasty cancerous versions), among other things one would expect to see in a school nurse's office: breasts with lumps, breasts without lumps, testicles with lumps, alcoholic livers, mouths and tongues with cancers from oral tobacco. GROSS!
Okay, so we get to the point where we notice that David Gilmore still has a very nice smooth voice and wonder what HE's been smoking... Dunno. It would seem to be drying and therefore you'd make more MUCOUS to make up for it, which makes you sound like a COW lowing. Is singing really something normal for the voice to do? It feels SO good when you get it right, even just going ah-ah-ah-ah up or down the scale, whoa-oh-oah, oh-oah oah, whoa oh oahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! (I love that part of LtL!!! Peg it every time!) but when you're sick, it sucks rocks and there's nothing worse than bad singing. I don't know how Alanis Morrissette copped a grammy.
sorry. It's late.
jazz
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:18:23 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Offensive lyrics Message-ID: <199702100818.BAA28890@jamaica.u.arizona.edu>
I like most of these, but they ARE offensive to some people:
Good Friends and a Bottle of Pills -- Pantera Last Caress -- Misfits or Danzig (Either way, Glenn Danzig) So What -- Metallica (original band unknown to me) Good Friends and a Bottle of Pills -- Pantera Startin' Up a Posse -- Anthrax Fagget -- Korn Good Friends and a Bottle of Pills -- Pantera Megadeth -- Liar Megadeth -- The Conjuring
Almost anything by:
Danzig Slayer Morbid Angel Marilyn Manson Little Richard John Tesh Adam Sandler (not a joke here)
Hope that helps. Sorry if I OFFENDED anyone here.
Peace be with you and God bless, ~Vince
(http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl)
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 97 02:22:08 -0600 From: Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: TO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE IMPATIENT Message-ID: <32fedaaf1f81004@cliff.ou.edu>
Just remember that SOME OF US were fans from When Dream and Day Unite. That was put out in 1987. IT WAS ALMOST TEN FUCKING YEARS LATER that we got another album, OKAY?
Get over it already!
(Soap-box mode OFF)
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:59:48 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: TO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE IMPATIENT Message-ID: <199702100859.BAA40338@jamaica.u.arizona.edu>
At 12:30 AM 2/10/97 -0800, you wrote: >Just remember that SOME OF US were fans from When Dream and Day Unite. That >was put out in 1987. IT WAS ALMOST TEN FUCKING YEARS LATER that we got >another album, OKAY?
Um, my *original* WDADU CD says (c) 1989 MCA Records, Inc. Not '87. My Images & Words CD says (c) 1992 Atlantic Recording Corporation... Let's see, 92 minus 89 equals 3. Not 10.
Can we please keep facts straight?
later all,
Peace be with you and God bless, ~Vince
(http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl)
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:24:12 -0800 From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com Subject: various thread replies Message-ID: <199702100924.BAA00151@ms.kallback.com>
>Richard A. Rivera wrote: > yes, the drums are triggered on it. For all of us non drummers, what are "triggered drums"?
>"Here, you'll like this, this is REALLY like old Queensryche stuff". And, yes, it >was. A little TOO much! -Maddy Maddy, what was the name of this band?
>captain says "Dream Theater! Those guys are great! Captian Stubing?! Maybe DT should cover the Love Boat theme song. or not.
>yes i am a loser for spending so much time on this, party on down :) enjoy!~Rip "I'm a moo-ser baby, so why don't cha milk me?"
trevorw "Pull my udder, I'm not afraid" (still udder the influence of Rip) :P ----------
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:00:05 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: TO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE IMPATIENT Message-ID: <32FF29E5.28A4@caribe.net>
Jazzmin Belle Sommers wrote: > > Just remember that SOME OF US were fans from When Dream and Day Unite. That > was put out in 1987. IT WAS ALMOST TEN FUCKING YEARS LATER that we got > another album, OKAY? > > Get over it already! > > (Soap-box mode OFF)
i dont know how that can be possible..wdadu dates itself 89' ..and I&W daltes itself 92' ... not even 5 years
-- Increasingly the mathematics will demand the courage to face its implications-Ian Malcolm mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 97 9:04:56 EST From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Lemur Voice Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+HfmzmA@tcx.tcco.com>
Is their CD available domestically in the US yet? I noticed that a few people had gotten it. If not, how much does it cost as an import?
Thanks.
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:54:21 -0500 (EST) From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Speaking of Vocal Subjects...MDTC (Marginal...) Message-ID: <199702101456.GAA18778@pawn.ax.com>
I think some reasons that Tate's voice has declined is the following:
1.) He's getting older....there's probably some physiological reason for this, but I've seen it a lot - the older you get, the more difficult it is to hit those highs....
2.) From what I understand, he smokes as well... if that's the case, then that's another significant reason for it....
Anyway, I still think that he has an excellent voice....
Al Balkiewicz vocals, Half Naked (like that makes my opinion any more justifiable)
-- @#%^$#%^#$&#%%$&#$%^#$%^#$%&#$%^&#$%^&#$%&#$%&#$%&#$%&#$%&#$%^&%$ | | | I wish that I could educate your face...... | | | #$%^#%&#%^$*%&*^&*%&(%^&(%^&*(%^&*(*%^&*$^&*#^%&#^*$%^&*#%^&*#$%& | Al Balkiewicz SEND MAIL HERE -->balkiewi @ njmsa.umdnj.edu | | OR HERE! --->DA_PROF @ BIGFOOT.COM | %@#$^@#$^@^%%$&#$&^*$%&*$&*$%^$&$%^&$%^*$^%&*$%^&*$%^*$%^&%$^&%$%
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:00:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Greg R. Lee" <greg@aix.can.ibm.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Lemur Voice special at Knights Of The Round CD Kingdom (LDTC) Message-ID: <199702101500.KAA18464@slash.toraix.can.ibm.com>
Whoever posted that tip about the Lemur Voice CD at the *Knights Of The Round CD Kingdom -- Thanks!!!
I just picked it up and they are even shipping free to Canada...
So for US$12.99...I have a copy on the way! Woohoo! I can't wait to check it out...just picked up the latest Tori CD (not bad) and an older Tool CD...I heard "Sober" in a bar no too long ago and it really caught my attention...
Now, if only we could download .wav etc. files from the 'net to check out some of DT's new material...I'm tired of waiting...
Greg, Toronto.
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 00:02:59 +0900 From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Offensive lyrics Message-ID: <199702101502.AAA24625@ma1.seikyou.or.jp>
Hi!
At 12:30 AM 97.2.10 -0800, Vincent G. LuPone wrote: >I like most of these, but they ARE offensive to some people: > >Good Friends and a Bottle of Pills -- Pantera >Last Caress -- Misfits or Danzig (Either way, Glenn Danzig)
It's Misfits!
>So What -- Metallica (original band unknown to me)
by Anti Nowhere League!
>Good Friends and a Bottle of Pills -- Pantera >Startin' Up a Posse -- Anthrax >Fagget -- Korn >Good Friends and a Bottle of Pills -- Pantera >Megadeth -- Liar >Megadeth -- The Conjuring > >Almost anything by: > > Danzig > Slayer > Morbid Angel > Marilyn Manson > Little Richard > John Tesh > Adam Sandler (not a joke here)
Add Stryper! ..............(JOKE! JOKE!)
Take Care! -Keiji Nishihara Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:20:36 -0700 From: BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Spock's Beard and other ramblings Message-ID: <s2fef706.050@IOMEGA.COM>
Jamlings, Got the new Spock's Beard last Friday. Noticed that they are now on Radiant Records. I think this is their own label as the catalog number is 001. They thank MP in the credits. They have added another keyboardist name of Ryo Okyomoto (sp?). This adds a little depth to this album. I haven't had this long enough to really compare it to The Light but I like what I hear. Incidentally, I got it through LaserCD.aol in 12 days after I mailed the MO. In contrast, I ordered Purpendicular through BMG a week prior to ordering SB and I still don't have that :<. My luck it'll come in wrong as has been done before.
Roy Thomas Baker- also produced several Journey albums.
IME Scenery & Fish- Anybody know which song(s) Alex Lifeson plays on? Credit is given but not specifically where. They also give credit to Dream TheatRE. Start calling them U Mother Earth :>
Oh yeah, If you have any of the SB albums, ever notice how clean and clear the bass is? I think DT should have Neal Morse produce their new CD. Neal is the main front man in SB and produces their CD's. Listen to Alan's bass-Myung should be as clean and clear so I don't have to strain to hear him. just a thought....
Wilmo
P.S. DT in the studio in March? This a rumor? I'm tired of the JL leaving rumors-I think he has a great voice.
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