YTSEJAM Digest 2273
Today's Topics:
1) A favor??
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
2) DT Tribute suggestions
by Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>
3) Tribute in AZ over spring break??
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
4) yet another message about DT tribute
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
5) Keys
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
6) DT Petition
by Vince French <shi@auracom.com>
7) Tribute services
by "Eugene E. Szucs" <szucseue@flyernet.udayton.edu>
8) DT TRIBUTE STUFF!
by Rich.Rochelle@asu.edu
9) DT Tribute Album
by edwilk@juno.com (Edward J Wilk)
10) YJUFC- Absolutely no DTC
by edwilk@juno.com (Edward J Wilk)
11) Parte Dos de WildKoba
by edwilk@juno.com (Edward J Wilk)
12) The tribute album/Chaz' contribution
by Hard Rock <cdh191@merle.acns.nwu.edu>
13) Re: Tribute
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
14) Dickinson
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
15) DT tribute
by maynard-dcrebs@juno.com (Kevin J Richard)
16) Re: Parte Dos de WildKoba
by Omar Torres <kain@caribe.net>
17) re: sick of it all? Pat/Al
by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
18) Re: Petition
by Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
19) dt trib
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
20) Re: YJUFC- Absolutely no DTC
by Michael Kohne <mhkohne@discordia.org>
21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2269
by Misha Horowitz <mhorowit@ziplink.net>
22) Marillion is Great
by "Ryan D. Eschauzier" <rdesc@conncoll.edu>
23) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2271/DT Tribute
by ProgRocker@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:02:06 -0700 (MST)
From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: A favor??
Message-ID: <199702132002.NAA02817@goodguy.goodnet.com>
Hi all!!
I have a favor to ask of anyone who can provide it. I wanted to
get a copy of the video for Matthew Sweet's "Girlfriend" for Melissa for
Valentine's day. The one with all the animation that was borrowed (I
think) from Gundam. Anyone got it? I'd be willing to compensate you in any
reasonable way...
Also, on the CD front, the first few Precious Things should be
squeaking out within the next 10 to 15 days or so.
Take it easy all!!
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
"I could envision a world at peace. No wars, no weapons, no
violence. And then I could envision us attacking that
planet, 'cause they'd never expect it."
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 12:04:03 -0800
From: Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT Tribute suggestions
Message-ID: <199702131959.LAA24023@ichips.intel.com>
Regarding a DT Tribute:
As someone has said, this has been tried before quite unsuccessfully.
HOWEVER, this may actually get pulled off because an actual, real-life,
honest-to-god studio has been donated. This is the key, and any
efforts to pull this off should be centered around getting people
together in Arizona. Past efforts have sizzled and died because
there was no way to get the instruments recorded or people together.
So a tip to those organizing this (sorry, I'm no musician and will be
content to just watch from the sidelines, unless of course you'd be
interested in a mediocre clarinet player) - forget asking for volunteers
for instruments. Half of the people volunteering probably won't be able
to make it to Arizona at all. I think you would have much better luck
asking one and only one question:
Can you come to Arizona?
If you can, then great: come on down and play whatever the hell you
want. Now I don't know many details about the studio that is being
volunteered. Do you need to pay for the amount of time you use it?
Or is this your own personal stuff that people can come and use at
any time? If it is the latter, then this venture has REAL potential.
Over the next year, we could put out a call to arms that any and all
ytse-musicians plan a trip to Arizona. Bring your instruments and
record whatever track of whatever song you want to perform. As we
go along, you could send announcements to the ytsejam like, "WE NEED
DRUMS FOR TTT!!!" to let people know what songs are short one or
two tracks. I imagine there will be a few songs that everyone will
want to perform on, and you'd have no trouble getting parts recorded.
But the ytsejam list could be used to flesh out those songs that
aren't quite complete.
After a year or so (or whatever amount of time you'd want to allot
to make this happen, but I think you'd need at least a year), then you
simply mix the best tracks of each song. Yes, there's a chance that
some people might not get any of their performances into the final
cut. But hey, you're not doing this for your own glory, but for the
love of Dream Theater. I should still think this would be a blast to
do no matter how it turned out.
If this setup isn't possible (ie, the studio time is limited due to cost
restraints or due to the studio-owner's reluctance to have tons of
strangers stay at his house throughout the year), then plan B would be to
set one date for everyone to get together. As someone mentioned, this
would be a great opportunity for a YtseConIV. Once everyone's there you
simply determine what songs you'll be able to record based on what people
can play with whatever instrument they brought. I imagine that far fewer
songs would get recorded in this plan, but it would certainly be alot
of fun. ;)
Make no mistake: Setting this up is going to be a HUGE venture, and I
wish everyone involved the best of luck. But history is against you,
and you need to decide how you're going to handle this. Making the
wrong decision, or putting the decision off too long, will doom it to
failure.
Jim
-- Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com> | If I had a witty remark that MD6 Design Engineer, Intel Corp, Hillsboro OR | would better the lives of my -=(UDIC)=- Subconscious Dragon -=(UDIC)=- | fellow mankind, do you really ** I don't speak for Intel ** | think I would put it HERE?------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:05:09 -0700 (MST) From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Tribute in AZ over spring break?? Message-ID: <199702132005.NAA04135@goodguy.goodnet.com>
I'm _there_, dudes (and dudettes!)
The band won't mind... these are covers, after all. Though we'd better not have any grandiose marketing plans for it.
I'm going to bring along a DAT of the internet Tori Amos tribute, and force everyone to listen to it, so we will know what NOT to do.
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:11:37 -0700 (MST) From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: yet another message about DT tribute Message-ID: <199702132011.NAA05941@goodguy.goodnet.com>
I can do the basslines for Pull Me Under, Take The Time, The Silent Man, most of Scarred (I'll pick up the rest as we go) and most of Metropolis (including that obscene tapping part). I'm not a bad sling at the guitar either, so I'll give it a whack. If I'm _healthy_ I can sing. In tune, even!! :) Also, I vote we do the Electric Silent Man.
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 97 15:14 EST From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Keys Message-ID: <m0vv7Y0-0006V9C@xcalibur.iinc.com>
I could play the keys to Another Day is someone send me tabs on it. I would have to sit down and force myself to learn it so theres no promises of perfection but I could try. I also don't know how you people are going about this.
Don Compton mcauburn@iinc.com
Warrior Soul Homepage (now featuring a Whats New section, a review with more to come, liner notes, lyrics, and info on rare CD singles)
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784/
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:16:55 -0400 (AST) From: Vince French <shi@auracom.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT Petition Message-ID: <199702132016.QAA20897@loki.atcon.com>
Hey Jammers....If you haven't heard by now, there is a petition to help roll DT along in the studio. All of this is done in the hopes that the recording process gets sped up, so we, the ever-so-vocal and die-hard fans (probably the most loyal fans in the history of music...except for Beatlemania and Deadheads :) can have some brand spanking new music from our beloved DT. All you have to do is go to http://www.prognosis.com/petition and fill out the petition form, or get the printout form which you can fill out in ink, and mail in to a designated address. I think real signatures may have more impact than electronic media. Anyhow, for the benefit of all music and DT lovers out there, please visit the site, and fill out the petition.
Vince (aka SPaRtaCuS)
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:30:53 +0000 From: "Eugene E. Szucs" <szucseue@flyernet.udayton.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Tribute services Message-ID: <9702132025.AA01580@enterprise.udayton.edu>
I'll take guitar duties on Voices if no one else is interested. -gene szucs
"In observation, I don't know where this is headed. But the only one of us with the coordinates for this destination is hardware is you. Go on whatever vision quest you require, stand at the rim of a volcano, stand alone and do your dance. Just find this beast before he takes another bite!"
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:28:35 -0700 (MST) From: Rich.Rochelle@asu.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT TRIBUTE STUFF! Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970213132505.17270A-100000@general4.asu.edu>
Hey all!!
I live in Phoenix and play bass, so I'd be more than happy to play bass parts on anything, really. I'm sure that Metropolis might have to be recorded at different times during the year (say, like, now, and then the solo about a few months/years from now when I can actually play it ;) What happened to The Mirror/Lie? I've got a 5stg, what about you gittar players (7stgs, anyone?)!?!?!?!! Ooops, did I say anything? Umm, Ytsejam could use some work, too ;) I think that Pull Me Under would be a good one to start with. Hector, where is your studio?
-rich
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:34:18 EST From: edwilk@juno.com (Edward J Wilk) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT Tribute Album Message-ID: <19970213.153211.9702.3.EdWilk@juno.com>
Awright,
I got vocals on Wait for Sleep, Metropolis Pt. 1, and To Live Forever. :)
Ytse-Ed
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:34:19 EST From: edwilk@juno.com (Edward J Wilk) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: YJUFC- Absolutely no DTC Message-ID: <19970213.153211.9702.5.EdWilk@juno.com>
>DAMN, screw the YTSE CD-ROM, let's set up the <drum roll>
> The Ytsejam Ultimate Fighting Championship.....from here > on to be referred to YJUFC......
> damn, can't do it in New York though, they banned it....
Hey all.. this message reminded me of a question I had.. has nothing to do with DT.. but.. anyone here take a martial art? I'm an aikidoka, myself. I'm just kinda curious. If you do take a martial art, e-mail me, please. Just kinda curious. :)
Ytse-Ed
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:34:18 EST From: edwilk@juno.com (Edward J Wilk) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Parte Dos de WildKoba Message-ID: <19970213.153211.9702.4.EdWilk@juno.com>
>canzon numero quatro, se llama "surrounded". es una cancion que a mi no me >gusta mucho. lo odio, casi. lo que me gusta es que suena casi como el grupo >genesis, especialmente en la seccion quando la bateria empiesa a tocar. muy >interesante que ellos tocan la musica en el tiemp 9/8. tambien me gusta mucho >la letra de la cancion. me encanta la parte quando james canta l;a linea >"light to dark, dark to light..."
Si, es mi parte favorito en el cancion. No se como una persona no puede gusta "Surrounded"! Claro, a mi me gustan todos los canciones en el disco. :) Yo tengo que decir que "Surrounded" no es mi favorita. Es un pocito aburrido. Estas correcto, el ultimo parte del cancion es lo mejor. Despues,
Ed
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 14:37:53 -0600 (CST) From: Hard Rock <cdh191@merle.acns.nwu.edu> To: The Perfect Strangers <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The tribute album/Chaz' contribution Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.93.970213143602.22083A-100000@merle.acns.nwu.edu>
OOOOOOOOOooooooo I'll take the lyrics to Damage, Inc. Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......!
<The above is just a joke> =)
Take it easy, "To be is to do" - Plato Charlie Harrison "To do is to be" - Aristotle "Hard Rock" (NYC) "Doo bee doo bee doo" - Sinatra /} / / / / /> "Vato" ,__________/ //{----/{________________________________ "Vato" Miami /| ==========|/\|-----/_________________________________\ Miami NYC \| ==========|\/|-----\_________________________________/ NYC '~~~~~~~~~~\ \\{----\{ \ \ \> "Having a sensitive member of the "Seasons change... \ \ audience; it's like having another and so can I" \} member of the band..." -DREAM THEATER -JOHN COLTRANE
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 97 14:39:01 -0600 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Tribute Message-ID: <33037be2081a005@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>
I'll take vocals on Mirror/Lie, or Scarred.
-Brian
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 14:41:00 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dickinson Message-ID: <199702132040.OAA19723@Walden.MO.NET>
hehe, I just read an interview with Bruce Dickinson where he mentions first discovering Dream Theater and saying how they blow "...Iron Maiden's sound (circa No Prayer...) into next week." Interesting interview for Maiden/Dickinson fans. The URL is http://pantheon.yale.edu/~drainoid/bruce/sint3.html .
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:47:35 EST From: maynard-dcrebs@juno.com (Kevin J Richard) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT tribute Message-ID: <19970213.144607.12470.2.Maynard-DCrebs@juno.com>
If you all are talking about making it a double CD why not instead of covering more DT songs get some of the guys and "chicks" participating some exposure. I am not contributing but I like the idea and I think if the contributors have a band that fits the "style" and they have original material than this would be a great opportunity for good exposure. Just either see if Hector wouldn't mind donating the studio for ONE song from the bands or if they have their own recording of CD QUALITY already or can produce it. Then take that and make another CD to distribute with the tribute. This would be great exposure and we can all agree that we NEED more progressive bands like DT, QR, and the rest. We all know they are out there but the record companies don't see a big "MTV" following so they don't give a shit. With this Idea it is possible to get some good bands some "props". If there is a huge need for a engineer though i doubt there will be I have some limited engineering experience mostly live sound though, but I would be more than happy to help.
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 17:10:06 -0500 From: Omar Torres <kain@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Parte Dos de WildKoba Message-ID: <3303913E.7470@caribe.net>
hahahahaha man those "reviews" of surrounded in spanish rule! i've laughed my ass off of those!
hey everyone who hasn't signed the petition, DO IT RIGHT NOW! Please so we'll see if can we cut the wait a bit and make it a double!
Omar Torres
[NDTC] Anybody here plays Diablo over battle.net? Drop me a mail!!:)
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 97 16:15:28 EST From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: re: sick of it all? Pat/Al Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+cDs+nA@tcx.tcco.com>
| From: Pat Daugherty | | Since he no longer even owns 1 VCR and | obviously can't tape the 3 videos he owes me | I proposed that he do one of the following:
I find it hard to believe, in this day and age, that he doesn't know a single person with 2 vcrs who can make tapes for him. Hell, even my grandmother has dubbing capabilities!
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:24:20 -0500 (EST) From: Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Petition Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970213161507.13196A-100000@umbc10.umbc.edu>
I have a question about the petition:
I don't know, but Mike Bahr explained the situation as changes in the personell at Eastwest. So what would a petition do? I don't think it would speed up anything. This isn't the same situation with the ACOS EP. First off, the management and the band WANT this LP to come out. With ACOS, the record company didn't really care if it came out or not. So if anybody can shed some light and tell me the usefulness of this particular petition, I would appreciate it. Thanks.
Brandon
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:37:01 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: dt trib Message-ID: <199702132136.PAA29130@Walden.MO.NET>
Ooh, I could actually sing Space Dye Vest, too. Didn't even think of that one. Nice, low-range vocals. Yeah, if that one goes up, I got dibs for vox on it.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:43:58 -0600 From: Michael Kohne <mhkohne@discordia.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YJUFC- Absolutely no DTC Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970213163934.005b8970@techno.discordia.org>
At 12:42 PM 2/13/97 -0800, you wrote: >>DAMN, screw the YTSE CD-ROM, let's set up the <drum roll> > > >> The Ytsejam Ultimate Fighting Championship.....from here >> on to be referred to YJUFC...... > >> damn, can't do it in New York though, they banned it.... > > Hey all.. this message reminded me of a question I had.. has nothing >to do with DT.. but.. anyone here take a martial art? I'm an aikidoka, >myself. I'm just kinda curious. If you do take a martial art, e-mail >me, please. Just kinda curious. :) > > Ytse-Ed > > American Kenpo Karate, Tracy system. (Actually, my original training is in parker system, but my Dojo just switched to tracy system.)
Michael Kohne mhkohne@discordia.org
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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:44:36 -0500 From: Misha Horowitz <mhorowit@ziplink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2269 Message-ID: <330239C4.1EE5@ziplink.net>
Jonathan Case wrote:
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:52:34 -0600 (CST) > From: Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu> > To: ytsejam@ax.com > Subject: Shadow Gallery > Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.970212224111.22717A-100000@rossby>
> 1) Where can I get their first CD and
When I went to the "Knights of the Round" website (www.knightsoftheround.com) I saw that they have a copy of SG's self-titled for $14.99 (also have a Japanese version for $28.99 or something). Anyway, can't answer your other questions...cya
ooh...also have to point something out :)
among other things... > > The Ytsejam > Bass: > Guitars: Vince LuPone > Vocals: > Keys: > Drums: >
> A Mind Beside Itself > (Erotomania) > Bass: Fernando Ma > Guitars: Jake (forgot his last name) > Vocals: > Keys: > Drums:
Hmm...should we write the vocals too? :)
Misha Horowitz
"They just tossed me out like an old bag of moldy...tangerines!" Michael Richards, UHF
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:51:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Ryan D. Eschauzier" <rdesc@conncoll.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Marillion is Great Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970213164941.6894A-100000@oak.cc.conncoll.edu>
Give marillion another try. I'm sure I'm not the only person who will defend them. I was wondering, what specifically do you think sucks about them?
ryan
m a r i l l i o n the sense that it's useless...and the fear to try not believing the leaders, the media that feeds us l i v i n g w i t h t h e b i g l i e rdesc@conncoll.edu - ryan eschauzier 97 - 860 439 4799
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 17:02:00 -0500 (EST) From: ProgRocker@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2271/DT Tribute Message-ID: <970213170156_-939393241@emout13.mail.aol.com>
I want the guitar slot for Metropolis, I would love to do all the guitar parts for that song. I already know all the parts inside & out. Let me know more details when they become available.
Keep On Progressing!!!! Dave (Guitarist for Power Of Omens) ProgRocker@aol.com
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