YTSEJAM Digest 2276
Today's Topics:
1) Tribute
by Chris DiGiuseppe <hed@northnet.org>
2) dt tribute
by Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
3) DT Petition
by "Derrick S Collins" <derrick@cycor.ca>
4) TO THOSE IN CHARGE OF DT TRIBUTE!!!
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
5) Petition, Tribute...
by Vince French <shi@auracom.com>
6) DT trib
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
7) Pachelbel
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
8) ADAT in Midwest
by "A.R. Bell" <salyavin@ames.net>
9) Dickinson and Smith
by "A.R. Bell" <salyavin@ames.net>
10) Re: ***Tribute plans***
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
11) EXCELLENT RESULTS!
by "Matthew A. Schnoor" <schnoor@cs.pdx.edu>
12) Re: dt tribute
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
13) Re: Shadow Gallery
by Walter Semerenko <walter@orlinter.com>
14) Last post
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
15) tribute album idea
by Scott M Peters <sretep@iastate.edu>
16) IMPORTANT ISSUES
by buster@ee.net
17) PEAR - Indie Band Concert in L.A.
by David Swanston <DGSWANSTON@CSUPomona.Edu>
18) RE: The Petition Update
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
19) Thoughts on the Tribute
by Heather Powers <ladydragon@earthlink.net>
20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2272
by Andrew Dietr Miller <ytsejam@UDel.Edu>
21) My crappy web page :)
by Big.Swifty@twav.com
22) DT tribute KEYS
by maynard-dcrebs@juno.com (Kevin J Richard)
23) Keyboard player for DT tribute
by Peter <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu>
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 23:38:52 -0800
From: Chris DiGiuseppe <hed@northnet.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Tribute
Message-ID: <3304168C.1387@northnet.org>
> Half of the people volunteering probably won't be able
>to make it to Arizona at all. I think you would have much better luck
>asking one and only one question:
>Can you come to Arizona?
I'll go anywhere! Seriously. This is the slickest thing to come along
since sliced toast.:)
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 97 22:43:39 -0600
From: Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: dt tribute
Message-ID: <3303ed7a4753002@cliff.ou.edu>
HEY I'M DOING THE VOCALS ON UAGM VINCE YOU SHIT! TAKE MY IDEA AND LEFT ME OUT!
soapbox mode OFF
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 01:16:29 -0330
From: "Derrick S Collins" <derrick@cycor.ca>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT Petition
Message-ID: <199702140446.AAA25354@bud.peinet.pe.ca>
Have you all gone to http://www.prognosis.com/petition yet? If not then go
there now and sign the petition. This is very important. So why are you
still reading this post? Go to http://www.prognosis.com/petition now! :)
Derrick Collins
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 00:19:21 -0500 (EST)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: TO THOSE IN CHARGE OF DT TRIBUTE!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.970214001408.114496D-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>
(sorry for posting this to the whole list but:)
To whoever is running this thing, I can play drums for the following songs:
6:00
CIAW
Erotomania
LSOAD
AD
TLF
Surrounded
I have my own four track recorder, but if necessary I (and D-man) can get
access to an ADAT. Also, if the situation arises that all parts for a
certain song are accounted for except the drums, I'm willing to sit down
and learn whatever is necessary. I can't make any guarantees, but I'll
give it my best shot.
Richie
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 01:30:29 -0400 (AST)
From: Vince French <shi@auracom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Petition, Tribute...
Message-ID: <199702140530.BAA10371@loki.atcon.com>
Well jammers, the petition is going EXCELLENT!!! Over 200 names in
one day and a half! That's what I call fan support. If you haven't checked
it out yet, please do so at http://www.prognosis.com/petition and sign it
today!!! We're demanding fans, yes, and we're loyal. So go sign it now!
Also, Stan was wondering if anyone wanted to cover ACoS?? I'd love
to do the bass part...our old band used to play it. It's so frickin fun to
play!!! I have a DAT machine, so I could just slap it on there, and send it
in when I'm done. I'll have to get rid of some of my rust tho :)
Vince
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 23:37:11 +0000
From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT trib
Message-ID: <199702140536.XAA12519@Walden.MO.NET>
Hey, maybe Jazzmin and Vince can get together and help each other
organize this thing. I mean, I don't see why more than one person
couldn't do it. As long as I get something, I'll be happy (I can't
remember what all's been called, but I can do vox on Silent Man (I
know that one's taken), Space Dye Vest, bass on Eve, Silent Man, and
maybe SDV, and any voice overs needed (as long as they're in English
:), oh, and any trombone parts that could fit (come on, there's gotta
be something :)). This could actually maybe happen this time, so
let's not screw it up here. Cheers.
Dale R. Newberry
P.S. Anybody know all the Maiden songs DT's covered? Just curious
(I'd be very interested in hearing this).
P.P.S. Ooh, I also heard that Adrian Smith is supposed to play on
Bruce Dickinson's next album. WOO HOO!!!
P.P.P.S. tix for U2's Chicago concert go on sale SATURDAY! WOO
HOO!!!!
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 21:47:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Pachelbel
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970213213851.23158B-100000@dante21.u.washington.edu>
> From: Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
> Subject: Pachelbel's Canon in D
>
> I was sitting in my music theory class today and we were listening to
> Pachelbel's (sp?) canon in D and I was thinking, "I think I've heard
> this before". I knew it was used in commercials and movies, but I know I
> had heard it somewhere else. Then it hit me. Green Day. I started
> singing in my head "Do you have the time..." Does anyone else agree with
> me that Green Day stole this chord progression from Pachelbel's Canon in
> D?
It's a very popular progression. You can hear it in the chorus of Yngwie
Malmsteen's "I'm My Own Enemy." Then about a month ago I heard a song by a
group called Wild Orchid...or something...anyway, the song was called "At
Night I Pray" and had really glaring elements of the Canon in D.
As for me, I'm waiting for the day when I can cover "Hook" by Blues
Traveler in front of a crowd of thousands just so I can start playing the
main violin melody from the Canon. "Hook" follows that progression from
start to finish. I ain't tellin' you no lies.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 23:29:22 -0600
From: "A.R. Bell" <salyavin@ames.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: ADAT in Midwest
Message-ID: <199702140527.XAA19333@brain.ames.net>
Hey fellow tribute-heads...
Those of you who from the midwest who are planning on recording for the
tribute, give me an email. I'm a guitar instructor working through a music
dealer, so I have unlimited access to ADAT. Anyone can come in, we'll
record for free, and get this thing going.
Aaron
salyavin@ames.net
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 23:35:03 -0600
From: "A.R. Bell" <salyavin@ames.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Dickinson and Smith
Message-ID: <199702140533.XAA19412@brain.ames.net>
For all you Maiden lovers out there...
A friend of mine in LA called yesterday and told me he heard an interview
on the radio with Bruce. Apparently Bruce and Adrian Smith are working
together again, and the new material, according to Bruce is similar to
Piece of Mind-era Maiden. He also mentioned how sick he was of the grunge
scene, and that his stuff with Adrian is going to be 'pure metal.'
Hmmm...The pendulum swings??? One can only hope.
Later...
Aaron
salyavin@ames.net
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 22:42:36 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: ***Tribute plans***
Message-ID: <199702140552.WAA00863@smtp.cyberhighway.net>
> 1) Get a good metronome and a set of headphones.
> 2) Have the click track go through the headphones, but not out in the open.
> 3) Open mic your amp/drum kit/PA/etc., and record what the mic picks up.
> 4) Count off 1, 2, 3, 4 or 1, 2, 3, or whatever (vocally) to start off the
> song. That way we can synchronize your tape with the rest of the recordings.
> 5) PLEASE know your part like the back of your hand. I don't want to turn
> away someone because their part just doesn't cut it. I'm a nice guy and I
> hate to have to play the asshole. We've got enough time between now and
> June that almost anyone on here that wants to play can learn their part(s)
> really well.
This'd work really well for me. I could record all my parts to midi
and send them via internet to youse guys. Seems kinda lame though.
It just wouldn't feel like I played it...
I'll try my best to make it down there. I'll ask my drummah buddy
Matt if he wants a stake in a song. He likes DT but doesn't take
this Ytse-jammer stuff seriously so I doubt he will. He's a kickass
drummer though and can play anything you ask him to. Is there a set
list as to what's gonna be played yet? I saw something before and
wasn't for sure if it was it, but I don't remember seeing LtL on it.
C'mon, I don't wanna have to do that all by myself (trust me, I
probably could.with a drummer's help. The vox might be a little
rough, though...) :)
Nuff, this is a groovin idea, and we oughtta really see it through.
Disclaimer: All entries posted in this text are copyrighted by
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reproduction of any entry contained within without written consent of
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chikz" are trademarks owned by KorgX3. :)
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 21:58:54 -0800 (PST)
From: "Matthew A. Schnoor" <schnoor@cs.pdx.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: EXCELLENT RESULTS!
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970213213955.24963A-100000@sarin.cs.pdx.edu>
Okay folks...
I haven't posted to the JAM for many months, but I thought I'd break my
silence and urge everyone to SIGN OUR PETITION!
Basicaly, for those of you who have been hiding in a closet or under a
mossy rock for the past 5 JAMS, we're putting together a big "swift kick
in the ass" for EastWest Records. Dream Theater is more than ready to
record their next album (according to Mr. Portnoy himself) but the label
is sitting on their thumbs.
So, it's up to all of us to get out the Ytse-Thumbtack and push forth
with a mighty force. We all want to see Dream Theater record and release
their next album (even if it's got a woosy name like "Godot") so we can
go out and spend money to buy it.
Plus, I do think my graphics on the webpage are really snazzy. But I'm
probably biased. :)
So, fire up your favorite web browser and point it to:
http://www.prognosis.com/petition
Fill out your name and E-mail, and put a message in for EastWest Records
to see. Don't be rude or crude tho... we got enough of those already.
Oh, and make it easier on everyone and PLEASE POST ONCE ONLY.
So far, we have over *210* responses to our initial post on the Jam.
That's pretty impressive for one day of activity, but it's still not
enough to change EastWest's mind. Keep at it!
Incidentally, if you have a webpage that is hit quite heavily, please
link one the graphics to our petition page. My grahpics are at:
http://www.SpiritOne.com/~schnoor/dtarc/
Thanks for your support! We'll get this album yet. :)
[ Matthew A. Schnoor ]
[ schnoor@cs.pdx.edu ]
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 23:02:31 -0700
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: dt tribute
Message-ID: <199702140602.XAA36780@jamaica.u.arizona.edu>
At 08:58 PM 2/13/97 -0800, you wrote:
>HEY I'M DOING THE VOCALS ON UAGM VINCE YOU SHIT! TAKE MY IDEA AND LEFT ME OUT!
>
Is this called for? I thought the idea was for all of us to get
together and have some fun. Jazz, I dunno what you have against me, but I'd
love to work with you on this. I just don't appreciate being flamed here
when I'm trying to get something done that a lot of people want to get done.
I'm trying not to exclude anybody and I'm trying to make everybody happy. I
know I can't make everybody happy here, but you don't need to jump down my
throat. Like I said before, I was just trying to get enough songs so that
they will fit on one CD and have them be the most wide-spread, well-known
songs. The classics, ya know? Nothing's set in stone and I didn't mean for
it to seem that way. I just want to get it done as quickly and as good as
possible.
Later,
Peace be with you and God bless, ~Vince
(http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl)
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 01:07:20 +0000
From: Walter Semerenko <walter@orlinter.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Shadow Gallery
Message-ID: <B0000036266@chicago.orlinter.com>
At 08:59 PM 2/12/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Now, as for Shadow Gallery: I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT I'VE HEARD ANY BAD
>CRITIQUES ABOUT THIS BAND. I picked up Carved in Stone, and I'm
>listening to it now. Hearing it for just the first time, I know that I love
>this band. That's usually how it works with me anyway. I'm either
>totally flattered right away, or else it gradually grows on me. But the
>only groups that I love are the ones I'm totally impressed with right away.
>It's easily the best thing since Dream Theater's Images and Words. The
>piano, guitar, drums, and singing are all great.
The downside of SG is the background vocals. They sound cheesy. Also, the
guitarist plays too many arpeggios which I find annoying. The pianist is
very good. They songwriting is strong except for the last track which they
could of made it flow better.
Walter.
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 22:53:59 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Last post
Message-ID: <199702140604.XAA02140@smtp.cyberhighway.net>
I guess I should ask if this is gonna be a Ytsejammers only deal. In
that case I won't ask matt at all. He may wanna tag along, but I
won't let him touch any of Hector's fine cuisine ir studio gear. :)
Thought it would be prudent to ask 1st.
Nite, folx!
Disclaimer: All entries posted in this text are copyrighted by
KorgX3 and are subject to applicable laws. Unauthorized
reproduction of any entry contained within without written consent of
the owner is strictly forbidden. "Rokz nadz, kikz butz, and hott
chikz" are trademarks owned by KorgX3. :)
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 00:58:33 -0600
From: Scott M Peters <sretep@iastate.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: tribute album idea
Message-ID: <199702140658.AAA23082@mailhub.iastate.edu>
I wish I could volunteer to play guitar... but ive been only been playing
just about 2 years now, and I suck. So if anyone can tell me how to
solo.... Anyway, how many songs do we have room for? And I think it would
be cool to have a small little original jam at the end or maybe evan an
original song to make the album a little more unique. Yet this might be the
most difficult part becasue with so many musicians and so many ideas going
around... well im sure you can all picture it. Later and discuss
Scott
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 02:15:02 -0500
From: buster@ee.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: IMPORTANT ISSUES
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970214071502.00695538@ee.net>
1st - get your butt to http://www.prognosis.com/petition/
and support the DT release petition!!!!
2nd - (this is NDTC but *is* very IMPORTANT)
Your local telephone company has filed a proposal
with the FCC to impose per minute charges for your Internet service. They
contend that your usage has or will hinder the operation of the telephone
network.
The fact is the phone
companies have been charging you for years for unlimited use of your phone
from your home. Their attempt at changing that agreement is one of the
biggest frauds ever unveiled on the public.
The FCC has created an email box for
your comments; responses must be received by February 13, 1997. Send your
comments to isp@fcc.gov and tell them what you think.
Alert everyone in your address book, and most importantly the subject
line should have "CC Docket No 96-263". FULL NAME AND ADDRESS SHOULD
ACCOMPANY THE EMAIL otherwise it will be deleted. Again, the email to FCC
is
isp@fcc.gov
More information can be found at the FCC website:
http://www.fcc.gov/isp.html
Please forward this email to all your friends on the internet so all our
voices may be heard.
buster
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 23:14:18 -0800 (PST)
From: David Swanston <DGSWANSTON@CSUPomona.Edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: PEAR - Indie Band Concert in L.A.
Message-ID: <01IFDUNBXHQA934SXP@clstac.is.csupomona.edu>
Hey all,
It's been a while since I have posted (say, a year or so), so I will
keep this short and sweet, and hope it does not get lost in the YtseTrib
Shuffle (which, BTW, sounds like an awesome idea/plan...I would partake, but
have not found the right DT song to donate my Tympani skills to).
My friend has a little four-piece band and they just got their second
gig at the Roxy. The go by the nom-de-pleume of Pear (don't ask, loooooong
story). They are playing either tomorrow 2/14 or Saturday 2/15, I will post
once I have more details.
Important note: they are not prog. I am posting here because I know
that most of us are open-minded musicians/music lovers. Pear sounds a lot like
old Cure, but they are adding a harder edge to their songs. Good shit. And
they also do a killer cover of "Melt With You."
I'll post more info as it comes. E-mail me if you are interested.
Rain King
"The wind blows cold tonight/No lamplights from no windows
I am sure enough alone/And I am sure enough alive."
-- Shadow Gallery --
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 23:45:52 -0800
From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com
Subject: RE: The Petition Update
Message-ID: <199702140745.XAA00168@ms.kallback.com>
>All joke entries will be deleted on the main petition, as well as any
deliberately rude >comments toward EastWest
----------
What about entries regarding killing squirrels? :)
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 02:47:13 -0500
From: Heather Powers <ladydragon@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Thoughts on the Tribute
Message-ID: <33041881.1029@earthlink.net>
I don't think that this whole tribute idea is being handled correctly.
No one person should be able to take part in more then one song unless
there is a genuine need for it. I also don't think that any parts should
be outrightly assigned. Give people a chance to speak up before a few
greedy people take over the whole project. There are alot of us out here
who are extremely talented. I should hope that if this CD is going to be
a true tribute from the ytsejammers, then a good cross section should be
used. International, East Coast, West Coast, male, female, young and
old.
I suggest that there be a comittee set up ( which includes Jassmin) to
sort through who is interested and what they want to do. And take it
step by step from there.
I dont think ANYONE should support anything less then a group effort.
-LadyDragon
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 03:07:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Dietr Miller <ytsejam@UDel.Edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2272
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970214030614.14750A-100000@copland.udel.edu>
It's funny everyone is talking about this tribute, they talked about doing
it last year too. It's never getting done, your fooling yourselves, but
go ahead I could use the laugh.
andy
Andrew Miller Cigarettes,
ytsejam@Udel.Edu Burbon,
--or-- A N D
andym@dreamt.org Betrayl......
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Date: 14 Feb 1997 04:54:34 CDT
From: Big.Swifty@twav.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: My crappy web page :)
Message-ID: <199702141003.CAA20156@pawn.ax.com>
Hello, everyone! I just wanted to announce that my shitty web page is up
and running now. I've got links to a few pages that belong to 'jammers
up already. If anyone else wants me to put up a link to their page, let
me know. The URL to my page is http://www.twav.com/swifty/index.htm and
be warned - it REALLY sucks! heheh...
Take care, everyone
Mark Peters
big.swifty@twav.com
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 05:02:46 EST
From: maynard-dcrebs@juno.com (Kevin J Richard)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT tribute KEYS
Message-ID: <19970214.040149.13494.3.Maynard-DCrebs@juno.com>
I am sure you all have realized that the key board parts shouldn't be
that hard to find some one to do them since they DO NOT have to go to AZ,
just do it on MIDI and then get a GOOD key board at the studio for mix
down and that's that-fini. Should be simple, hopefully I have made
someone with the skill but no transpo realize they could contribute very
easily.
Anyway just trying to help.
PS -What about the original song CD idea?
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:09:01 +0100 (MET)
From: Peter <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Keyboard player for DT tribute
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970214100822.6775A-100000@speed.eik.bme.hu>
Hey Hi!
I would like to play on this "tribute" thing seriously.
I'm a keyboard player and play in 2 DT cover bands... therefore I play
a lot of songs from DT. I have professional keyboards and I've written very
similar patches that Kevin used. I'm also looking for a site I can upload
a demo version (in MP3) of Erotomania (full band) and WFS (w. vocals)
recorded in our home studio..
So I can play these songs:
Ytsejam
PMU
AD
UAGM
Metropolis
WFS
CIAW
A Mind Beside Itself
Scarred
I mean these are the songs I've learned from note to note... there is a lot
more I can play parts from and I could finish learning them (eg. LTL, 6:00,
ACOS, etc).
The only problem that I live in Hungary but I think it's not a big problem
since I could send my parts on DAT or even in 16bit 44KHz Stereo WAV file
through the net. You should only send the click with the tempo changes that
you use in the song (midi sync).
So if you need a keyboard player for a song almost with the same sounds (95%)
as Kevin had on his JD800 and DW8000, please let me know. Also, if you need
other players (drummer, singer, bass, guitar) for the songs above, write me,
then I ask the people of our bands to do it.
Bye,
Peter
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