YTSEJAM Digest 2277
Today's Topics:
1) Star Whores III
by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
2) Superior posts
by Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
3) Estonia, Fibraio
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
4) Grotesque, Overrated, Gary Hoey
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
5) DT Tribute Album ...
by fascia@eerie.fr
6) dt tribute
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
7) running the tribute
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
8) TRIBUTE ALBUM ORDERING?
by cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
9) Tape or CD
by cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
10) BEAUTIFUL FEELING
by cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
11) DT dropped from label??????
by Surrounded@aol.com
12) Re: Tribute and spanning the globe!
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
13) Selling
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
14) ACoS petition
by "SchuBert" <H.M.Peeters@stud.tue.nl>
15) J Becker-ndtc
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 97 11:20:27 +0100
From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de
Subject: Star Whores III
Message-ID: <9702141020.AA00243@sundoc13.software-ag.de>
Morning all
welcome to the Mountain Dew mailing list, as approved by the winners of the
1997 Super Bowel, the Green Day Packers (whoops, small mistake there).
Cough, cough, clears throat, frees vocal chords - I recently read an interview
with James Hetfield in which he was asked what he does to keep his voice in trim
during a long tour. James himself didn't give an answer, but Kirk and Lars both
shouted "James sucks. Now we all know...
Where's Damon when you need him? He'd do all the keyboard parts for this tribute
thingy. But could all of you who are interested in doing this set up a common
distribution list or just send all of the "I'll do the triangle on ..." posts
to Vince/Jazzmin/Hector: this will reduce the number of digests dropping down
into our mailboxes considerably. 8 digests within 24 hours is a bit much.
I just bought 'Undertow' by Tool. Wierd and amazing. Very powerful songs, no
fancy frills, good drumming, just heavy enough. Completely out of character,
I even paid attention to the lyrics - as I said, wierd and amazing. WARNING:
don't listen to this album if you are easily offended by anything at all.
You can expect reviews of the following gigs soon: Korn (20 Feb.), Tool
(21 Feb.) and My Dying Bride/Sentenced/Therion (26 March).
For all of you Tiamat fans out there, the new album is apparently finished and
is due for release in April.
Thought of the day: why are there interstate highways on Hawaii?
stay safe and happy listening
Neil Gallop
(nga@software-ag.de)
Currently playing: Elend - Les Tenebres Du Dehors
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:27:06 +0100
From: Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Superior posts
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970214102706.0066899c@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi!!
I was kinda offline for a few days, so here are some answers
to some of the posts concerning me or my band...
>From: Walter Semerenko <walter@orlinter.com>
Subject: Fwd: The 1996 Annual Internet Prog Poll (1/2)
>Superior got voted as best newcomer.
YEEEEEEEEHAAAAA!!! Cool!!! :))
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From: IdleMinds@aol.com
Subject: Superior/Angra
>I've noticed alot of people having trouble getting Superior's CD. I've also
>noticed most folks paying $20+ for it. I got it for $12.99 and very quickly
>from:
>Impulse
>344 E. Irving Park Rd.
>Roselle, IL 60172
>CALL: 630-529-3070
Thanks for posting this address!! I'll save it and tell people
who want to get the CD about it.
>They are friendly and fast! BTW, Bernd, you guys are GREAT!!! Even my wife,
>who's tired of my Progrock bands I listen to, said, "Hey, this is really
>good!"
Hehe, cool! :) Thanks! Tell her that she's got a good taste! :))
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From: "Beavis (Wes Foll)" <wfoll@america.net>
Subject: Superior disc IN MY HANDS BEEOOTTCHH!!!
>Great work Bernd....I'm listening to it now, and as Mr. Pellaz will tell
>you, track 6 rocks nadz! Especially that part at the end where it goes into
>half-times and stuff: "dut dut dut dut dut duuut." 8)
>Hurry and tour the states guys... we need some more bands like you.
Thankyouverymuch!!! :) Hmpf, I have no bigger wish than to come
over there and play. But 'til now we don't even have a record
company in the USA who wants to release our Cd. But maybe this
will change soon. Let's see. :)
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From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
Subject: Therion
>Oh yeah, in case no one's mentioned it, I think Superior
>ought to produce the new DT album !^)>
Hehe, THIS would be KILLER!!! :) I won't be able to do that
because I'd lie on the ground the whole day in front of
Mr Petrucci and bow to him on and on... :)))
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From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com
Subject: Woo-Hoo!!!! (Superior) NDTC
>ok, I have to put in my $.02.
Yes, yes, yes, let it come! :)
>I finally got my Superior too (yes, from Dream Disc) and IMHO it not quite
>worth all the hype. It depends on what you like. To me (non guitar player)
>it sounded like the same chunky Metallica riff guitar over and over on every
>song. (No offense to Bernd, who seems like a really cool guy, and great
>player, just not in the style I care for) Anyway, if this is what you like,
>it's great. Also there was not a lot of keyboards, and when there was,(to
>me, non producer) it was mixed way under the guitar. And not many guitar
>solos either.
I don't think that we mixed the keys under the guitar.
You can hear it all. Sometimes the keys are a little behind, that's
true but it fits to the song itself then and Jan is really satisfied
with the production himself. What we do is music that has to create
emotions. Kinda filmmusic. And when the guitar has to roar then
the keys have to be in the back. And if the keys are in the foreground,
the guitars have to step back. That's it.
As for the 'many solos' we don't even WANT to put too many solos
into the songs just for being there. A solo is a nice thing to divide
two parts from each other or just to put some progression into
a song. But I really don't like it if there are too many people
fiddling around in songs. It destroys the song itself IMHO. Ok,
this depends on the one who plays the solo....
Ok. All for now.
Bye.
Bernd.
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 02:24:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Estonia, Fibraio
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970214021550.45116F-100000@dante27.u.washington.edu>
> From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
> Subject: More dumb rumors, Spock's Beard (BUY THEIR STUFF!), and some
> replies
>
> Well, hell! Let's do it for Estonia and the Estonian way of life,
> too!!
Viva Estonia!
---- > From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2255 > > I hate to see people unsubscribe no matter how much anyone else on > the jam hates their guts. I'm not sure that Damon Fabrario <sp?> is > still here but I can't blame him for leaving. He was at a bad point in > his life and Barfu felt like taking him down a notch lower.Strange how I still communicate with Mr. Fibraio through private e-mail from time to time. Very strange indeed. Even stranger is how this has been going on since about early 1995. Do me a favor and get the facts straight before you dream history like this.
The Tin Drum?
Bafu x 10^23
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 03:11:02 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Grotesque, Overrated, Gary Hoey Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970214022521.45116G-100000@dante27.u.washington.edu>
No, the Subject: line isn't describing what I think of Gary Hoey.
---- > From: Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com> > Subject: Ream Theater! > > This was without a doubt the most vile, offensive, grotesque, immature, > childish post I have ever seen on the ytsejam.
Dammit, bested again...
---- > CATEGORY # 11 - MOST OVERRATED BAND (deserving less) > > 1. Dream Theater 19
Should this hurt? ;)
Anyway, anyone looking for a name for a progressive metal band just needs to read through that "BEST PROGRESSIVE LABEL" list. Cuneiform, Cyclops, Laser's Edge... Now where is Leviathan in all of this?
Thank you, we are CYCLOPS!! In case some of you in the crowd are wondering about our eye patches, it's because we are to date the only progressive metal band where each member only has one eye!! Thank you, yes, that last one was our new single "No Man" off of our new album "Odyssey."
Once again we are CUNEIFORM, please be sure to pick up our demo disc, available at the snack bar. All the lyrics are, coincidentally, written in cuneiform, so have fun with those decoder rings...which we will be throwing out during the encore...
Did I mention I saw Gary Hoey last Friday? Whee-HEW!! His cover of "Red House" absolutely STOMPED the one performed at G3, both vocally and guitarically. Speaking of G3, thinking back to those lifeless I-IV-V blues jams during the encore where Satriani was the only one capable of staying within the minor pentatonic scale and nailing Da Blues, methinks Hoey would have been a most useful anchor for those songs.
Remarkably enough he was straight picking the whole night. No tapping, no sweep picking, no shrieking harmonics, no whirling the guitar around his neck like a demon, and best of all he was playing FOR THE FANS. Man was he having a good time. Loose loose loose. His acoustic mariachi solo was cool, too. Plus he mentioned after the show that he's gunning for a spot on the next G3 tour. :) :) :)
His bassist, Ray, was the Stealth Master. His hands moved very little but his popping technique was furiously quick. His style of soloing was a ballistic pogo-stick of rising and falling arpeggiated notes, all of which were popped so hard they made various people in the crowd melt like those aliens in "Mars Attacks!" He played a six-string and loved hextuplets. Or machine-like sixteenth notes which he ripped out without breaking a sweat.
Hoey & Co. played a song which someone said was from his first album, which I haven't been able to locate. The song was called "Strut" or something to that cryptic effect... Anyone know the real title? He had an octave pedal engaged for the verses, and this song had my head nodding from start to finish. A real bull-raper, that groove...
The crowd was densely packed and ravenous, which really surprised me. It could have been because I was in the second row of thrashing bodies, but I was literally using my elbows as extensions of my struggling lungs (if ya know what I'm talkin'bout) when Hoey soared into "Desire." Of course, with a floor full of shred-guitarists, all WAY too conscious of their precious fingers (bwaaahahaha you know all we are) and/or beautiful Firehouse- caliber hair to even THINK about flailing their arms around, none of us got TOO volatile. ;>
As the Hoey Afficionado standing behind me put it so bluntly after the show, "No cheese, man...that's why guys like him and Satriani are still around. Solid playing and no cheese." And yes, MICHAEL. ANGELO.'s leather pants were part of the evening's discussion. Plus I got to meet a fellow yeetsayjam-mer at the show - Bald Savatage, aka Trevor. "I'm more a listener than a player." he said, which reminded me a tiny bit of the tranquil life-philsophies found in "Dinotopia"...
Bafu Vai
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:32:44 +0100 From: fascia@eerie.fr To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT Tribute Album ... Message-ID: <199702141132.MAA25269@solar4>
Hello YtseJammers,
I'm a new memeber of this list and it's my first message. I red all the postings about the DT tribute. It's a relly good idea. I hope it will become a reality. It's a shame that I live in France, because I would have loved to play some guitar parts ... Nevermind ... Keep on going on, guys.
Marc Fascia - DT Addict
PS : I hope that DT will be able to release their new album soon, too.
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 08:34:31 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: dt tribute Message-ID: <330469E7.620E@caribe.net>
Hey ..! .. well since I definately cant go to AZ, and even if i could It would be to check it out and only look (gawk) at the whole recording process..id like to know (privately) how is this planned to be made available to us jammers? .thru mike B? .. -- Increasingly the mathematics will demand the courage to face its implications-Ian Malcolm mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:05:04 -0600 From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: running the tribute Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970214130504.006ffe8c@mail.inlink.com>
> >With all due respect, Vince, I came up with this idea. I'm organizing it. >I have had lots of experience coordinating (and promoting) major media >events -- I'm not just some bitch who wants to control everything.
slow the roll a second.. sure, you came up with the idea... and vinnie got off his ass and put it into action. whats more is i'm sure he'd be more than happy to collaberate with you on it, no use drawing some venom in the recording of this.. i dunno about everyone else, but i'm still planning on hector's studio being the main bash for this thing and possibly throwing a ytsecon IV there.. i dont think any ONE person should organize this, and i dont think that the tracklist was pre-picked, if you havent noticed there were no songs with completely blank jammer signups, all the songs picked were picked because people wrote in saying they wanted to play on those songs i'm pretty sure.. so lets concentrate on getting it done, now how it gets done
~Rip
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 97 13:48:35 GMT From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers) To: durnik@goodnet.com (Bahr, Mike), ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List) Subject: TRIBUTE ALBUM ORDERING? Message-ID: <M.021497.144835.24@wxs4-4.worldaccess.nl>
OK. I am a guitarist, but the best I can do is Cradle of Filth, Gorefest, Metallica, Gwar and the intro to "Pull me Under" (which is just a long way of saying that I have no ambitions to be on the tribute album). How about where to order the album? I want to buy it! By the way...this is all very nice but the songs are going to be *good*, aren't they? I have the "Information Superhighway Stars" Deep Purple tribute cassette and that, barring one song, is complete and utter tripe. The intentions are good, but someone who can even screw up the complete and utter timing of the regular "Child in Time" riff should not be allowed to record :-) Pick good people. There's been so many tribute-related messages that I stopped reading them all. Will Mike Bahr do the disc's production and distribution? I sure hope so.
-- /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | Richard Karsmakers cronos@worldaccess.nl | \--------------------------------------------------------------/ C.R.I.M.E. Development; "Twilight World" Magazine; WWW-MMM "ST NEWS" ST/TT/Falcon disk magazine; "Ultimate Virus Killer" alt.music.gwar FUQ II & GEMulator FAQ maintainer P.O. Box 67, 3500 AB, Utrecht, Netherlands /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | "Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk?" | \--------------------------------------------------------------/
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 97 13:48:41 GMT From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers) To: vgl@u.arizona.edu, ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List) Subject: Tape or CD Message-ID: <M.021497.144841.94@wxs4-4.worldaccess.nl>
Forgot this in my previous message: If a CD/tape vote ever comes up, I vote CD. DT is a band that needs good sound, so the covers would need good sound too. Why record on DAT and all that if it'll end up on some crammy tape? -- /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | Richard Karsmakers cronos@worldaccess.nl | \--------------------------------------------------------------/ C.R.I.M.E. Development; "Twilight World" Magazine; WWW-MMM "ST NEWS" ST/TT/Falcon disk magazine; "Ultimate Virus Killer" alt.music.gwar FUQ II & GEMulator FAQ maintainer P.O. Box 67, 3500 AB, Utrecht, Netherlands /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | "Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk?" | \--------------------------------------------------------------/
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 97 13:48:44 GMT From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers) To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List) Subject: BEAUTIFUL FEELING Message-ID: <M.021497.144844.36@wxs4-4.worldaccess.nl>
This whole tribute thing is, I think, a BEAUTIFUL THING. Not just beautiful thing or Beautiful Thing, but BEAUTIFUL THING. It's great to feel this friendly vibe going around, all these people getting together to make something that their heart is in. This is really, really the coolest thing barring Bahr ;-) Make sure every musicians gets properly credited (no "third solo Daz", "left solo Marty", "eight phrygian solo Gaz", but proper stuff).
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:11:13 -0500 (EST) From: Surrounded@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT dropped from label?????? Message-ID: <970214091056_1147139824@emout18.mail.aol.com>
Once again I heard confirmation from a reputable source that DT was dropped from their label------ Does anyone know of any truth to this?????As for the tribute---who's in charge and count me in----------I have a Tobias 5-string and Roland PK-5 Midi controller(as used by Myung) and Kurzweill K-2000 and would be fucking honored to play on any song in tribute to the greatest band since Rush.Lets do this!!!!! Hope to hear ya....... Thanx......Late, Dennis
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:47:38 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Tribute and spanning the globe! Message-ID: <33047B0A.1CFB@mailstorm.dot.gov>
> From: Hector Crisantes <snyfarms@gateway.dakotacom.net>
> I wish it could be easier for the people that can't make it, but there > is nothing I can do.
Well, I have some vacation time coming up that I need to use by the end of the summer. I am making plans to do some cross-country road tripping in my truck. I have some friends that are out in Yuma, which appears to be about 3 hours or so from Nogales, right?
I'm not a musician, but I like the tribute concept and would be willing to facilitate getting folks to the studio. Bear in mind though, that the truck doesn't have warp drive yet, so I'd have to work a reasonable path between here and Nogales that could accomodate as many as possible...
Depending upon when this all emerges, the YtseLandCruise may be passing by a town near you :) Film at 11....
Regards,
Jon *------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------*
If I'd started from the top, And worked my way down There'd be no reason, To live forever To live forever - Dream Theater
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 97 10:08 EST From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Selling Message-ID: <m0vvPFg-0000CpC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
I have more CD's/tapes and videos to sell. All are being sold for financial reasons and I assure you, you will get your disc. Please add a dollar per CD for shipping. CD's: Bad Religion- The Grey Race $6.00 Damn The Machine- Damn The Machine $5.00 Fight- War Of Words $7.00 Fight- A Small Deadly Space $7.00 Motley Crue- Misunderstood promo $3.00 Monster Magnet- Face Down single with Unsolid $5.00 George Lynch- Sacred Groove $4.00 V/A- Working Man: A Tribute To Rush $8.00 Death- Leprosy $6.00 Cinderella- Live Train To Heartbreak Station $2.00 CIV- Set Your Goals $5.00 Every 13 Days- E'tant Donne's (punk band out of buffalo, ny) $5.00 Offspring- Smash $1.00 Morbid Angel- Altars Of Madness $7.00 Overkill- Horrorscope $6.00 Kingofthehill- I Do U $2.00 (promo) Garbage- Stupid Girl $5.00 Tapes: Sacred Reich- Independant $7.00 Whitesnake- Here I Go Again (with remix) $3.00 Videos: Rock Video Monthly- February '94 (with Barkmarket, Duff McKagan, Fight, Green Apple Quick Step, Life Of Agony, Biohazard & Onyx, Rage Against The Machine, Souls At Zero, Stone Temple Pilots and Quicksand) $9.00
E-mail me privately if your interested in any of these. Thanks
P.S. Vicious Rumors and Solstice have been sold. mcauburn@iinc.com
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http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784/
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:07:00 +0100 (MET) From: "SchuBert" <H.M.Peeters@stud.tue.nl> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ACoS petition Message-ID: <58022.H.M.Peeters@stud.tue.nl>
Hey, does anybody remember how many people signed the ACoS petition? WW /__\ Groeten! | oo | (|_()_|) +-------------------------+ \__/ | H.M.Peeters@stud.tue.nl | /|\/|\ | zjwein@dse.nl | |||||||| | presence@dds.nl | Bert +-------------------------+
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:12:26 -0800 From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com Subject: J Becker-ndtc Message-ID: <199702141512.HAA00103@ms.kallback.com>
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trevorw
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