YTSEJAM Digest 2172
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Artension - new prog band (Shrapnel)
by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
2) Demo Tapes
by Jose Lucas Perroni Kalil <gzr@geocities.com>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2171
by "RobertHenderson" <Robert.Henderson@icdc.com>
4) DT IFC
by vanzin@dks.com.br
5) Re: just had to mention it....
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
6) Mark Knopfler - Guitar World top 100
by MATHEW.KOSHY@st.com
7) Re: Our Lady Peace and other Canuck bands.
by Mike Estok <estok@teleport.com>
8) Re: X's
by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
9) Re: Guitar World top 100
by Vincent LuPone <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
10) Fan Club
by Neil Elliott <101352.3261@compuserve.com>
11) Superior DT'ish???
by Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
12) Re: Fan Club
by Mika Numminen <aarre.n@swipnet.se>
13) Galactic Cowboys, Queensryche, Rush, DT
by nigelb@powerup.com.au (Nigel Bridgeman)
14) A few of the recent threads...
by "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaserla.fi>
15) MP & JM VIDEOS
by Rpupkin514@aol.com
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2171
by Graham Borland <graham@grelb.src.gla.ac.uk>
17) Lemur Voice on tour with other Magna Carta bands in Europe??
by "Marquering, Wessel" <Wessel.Marquering@econ.kuleuven.ac.be>
18) NDTC - Paul Shortino...again
by Eddy M <edrock@connexus.apana.org.au>
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 19:34:19 -0600 (CST)
From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Artension - new prog band (Shrapnel)
Message-ID: <199701100134.TAA24939@parka.winternet.com>
> Last Monday I heard a song of Artension, a new prog rock band. It
> sounded like a
Yeah, Kevin mentioned this to me a few days ago. I am trying to get my
hands on it and since I read your review I will be trying harder!!!
Kevin is also working on a new Edwin Dare record. No solid release data as
of yet.
BTW: Artension is doing quite well in Japan. Go figure!! ;-)
later,
Nathan Bradley
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:17:00 -0300
From: Jose Lucas Perroni Kalil <gzr@geocities.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Demo Tapes
Message-ID: <32D5B4AC.46BB@geocities.com>
Other Demos Available: (tape)
3,4,6,7,13,19,29-38,41,42
I cut it from DTดs bootleg list :)
--
"I'm a Rock'n'Roll soldier, Gonna play it until I'm dead
Nobody I know will ever take my Rock'n'Roll away from me."
( BACK STREET KIDS - TECHNICAL ECSTASY - BLACK SABBATH'76 )
Jose Lucas Perroni Kalil --( RiOr Member )--
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 21:19:20 -0500
From: "RobertHenderson" <Robert.Henderson@icdc.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2171
Message-ID: <199701100346.WAA00027@darkstar.icdc.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 14:08:52 -0500
> From: "RobertHenderson" <Robert.Henderson@icdc.com>
> To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2148
> Message-ID: <199701100135.RAA03296@king.ax.com>
> And the award for creepiest post to the 'Jam goes to...
Good Lord! I sent this thing a week ago!
All right, who screwed up the 'Jam?
Brian Henderson, Cyberburlap
robert.henderson@icdc.com
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:07:44 -0300
From: vanzin@dks.com.br
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT IFC
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.17.1.10.1.7.44.2579404677.518471@dks.com.br>
Hey jammerz,
Who sould I e-mail to have more information about the DTIFC?
I know there's someone on this list related to it.
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Marcelo Vanzin
Sao Paulo - Brazil
vanzin@dks.com.br vanzin@dreamt.org
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 20:17:12 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: just had to mention it....
Message-ID: <199701100327.UAA17667@cyberhighway.net>
> and therefore, the slim thread of grammy respect i retain is left
> unsevered for another year.....now if someone could explain how Bryan
> Adams got a nomination......
Hey, dude, don't knock it, the guy rocks and you're afraid to admit it
in public. You try to curb your fear by suppressing it with anxiety
and place a post on the jam like this to reinforce your facade.
C'mon Partha, we all know you've got all of Buster Pointdexter and
Liberace's abums and listen to them frequently. :) I understand. :)
Heheh, I think Bryan rocks. :P
>"Oh!" -- Mrs. Thomas, 11th grade English, after finding the Jack
>London record which had been on the player had been secretly swapped
>(by yours truly and Scotty McMicken) for Yngwie J. Malmsteen's
>"Marching Out"...
Heheh... Now THAT is funny. But why'd you wanna do that? Jack
London rocks. Especially about the city guy that went on a
wilderness fishing trip and got stuck in the middle of nowhere in
Alaska and went extremely crazy. I can't remember if he shot himself
or froze to death, but it was really cool. I gotta find his book of
short stories again. Stephen King must've read em. The Gold Mine
one rocked, too. (White Fang wasn't too bad either). Am I even
thinking of the same guy? I didn't know he had an album. :P
KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore)
ibanez@cyberhighway.net
"Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to."
--David Arkenstone
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 10:50:44 +0730
From: MATHEW.KOSHY@st.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mark Knopfler - Guitar World top 100
Message-ID: <H000016303214d6e@MHS>
>>From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
>>Is anyone here really into Dire Straits? I think
>> Mark Knopfler is one of the best guitarists in the world and will
>>always be one of my favorites.
>From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
>Yeah, absolutely. Knopfler is awesome. Every guitarist oughta take a
>whack at "Sultans of Swing," which is just some amazing playing. The
>first couple of albums, I'd say, are stronger than the last two, but
>they're all awfully good.
... which leaves most of the folks in the DireStraits mailing list
perplexed as to why Knopfler is missing from the Top 100 guitarist list
in the Feb'97 issue of GuitarWorld.
Has any 'jammer seen the Top 100 list ??? I would enjoy
an enlightened review of that.
ciao
mathew
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Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 20:36:14 -0500
From: Mike Estok <estok@teleport.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Our Lady Peace and other Canuck bands.
Message-ID: <199701100434.UAA06381@kim.teleport.com>
>ok, for about the past year or so i have been listening to a band from canada
>called Our Lady Peace, anyone else listen to this band? IMO i think they are
>really f@#kin great, i got into them when i caught them live, anyone else dig
>these guys?
I own their only cd "Naveed" and it is quite good. The people on
this list that hate anything that sounds alternative probably won't like
them, but they write some good songs. Interestingly enough, when they
opened for Van Halen in Toronto, their guitarist threw in all these solos
that aren't on the cd. They were really good! It's a shame he doesn't
really solo on the cd, I guess it's just not "cool."
Naveed is good, but i would recommend listening to it first.
There are actually many fantastic Canadian bands that recieve no
attention in the U.S. Some of them are:
-Rush - ok, that ones easy.
-I Mother Earth - I know lots of people love them on here. But in Canada
they are huge! On MuchMusic and the radio all the time!
-The Tea Party - my favorite (next to rush) of the canadian bands. These
guys are good! Kind of a led zeppelin-ish sound, except with a baritone
singer. On their latest cd "Edges to Twilight" (which is available in the
states) the band (a three man band) uses something like 35 instruments over
12 tracks. They get into all this middle eastern stuff. VERY GOOD!@
-The Tragically Hip - I'm not too into them, but these guys are the Pearl
Jam of Canada (in terms of fanfare, not music). Their music is pretty good,
kind of mellow, laid-back. Their singer goes on some crazy spoken words
taht are really intense. Day for Night is pretty good, i don't really like
their new one.
Now, if you are interested in Metal bands, than the next two are pretty
cool, both from MY HOMETOWN! of Hamilton Ontario!
-Varga - these guys really rock. they thank 'ryche too in their first cd.
Kind of industrial metal feel.
-Shallow North Dakota - the band I love to make fun of! They were always
played on Loud on MM, and they have a 400 pound singer/drummer. This guy is
huge! and he cannot sing for the life of him! If you want to hear
hilariously bad music, then this is a good bet (if you can find it).
Of course, Canada also spawned Kevin James LaBrie. Then again, same
with Alanis Morisette. :(
Michelob
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 21:33:13 PST
From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: X's
Message-ID: <199701100438.EAA119303@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net>
** Reply to note from ytsejam@ax.com 01/09/97 5:55pm -0800
What about Terminator X and X, XX, XXX video's :)
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:31:14 -0700
From: Vincent LuPone <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Guitar World top 100
Message-ID: <199701100631.XAA52104@nevis.u.arizona.edu>
At 08:05 PM 1/9/97 -0800, you wrote:
> ... which leaves most of the folks in the DireStraits mailing list
>perplexed as to why Knopfler is missing from the Top 100 guitarist list
>in the Feb'97 issue of GuitarWorld.
How about this mailing list?! F**king Kurt Cobain and Billy Corgan
made the list and JOHN PETRUCCI DIDN'T!!!!! They had a prog-rock section,
and a virtuoso section, and neither one had Petrucci!!!! They even went so
far as to list Kirk Hammett and James Hetfield, two of the biggest metal
guitarists of all time, as ONE GUITARIST!!! The only thing that I liked
about the top 100 list was that Andres Segovia (sp?) was on it.
Why are we paying our subscription money to hear someone's
viewpoint? It's all opinion. Most of us guitarists know as much as or more
than those so-called experts at Guitar World.
There were a ton of incredible guitarists that were left off the
list in exchange for alternative pukes who can't play. This issue of Guitar
World is just really expensive toilet paper.
Later,
Peace be with you and God bless,
~Vince
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 02:09:54 -0500
From: Neil Elliott <101352.3261@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Fan Club
Message-ID: <199701100210_MC1-E6C-6E21@compuserve.com>
Thought I'd just clear up this recent talk about the fan club. I do not
know where the notion came from that I am not willing to answer questions.
As several of you can no doubt testify to over the last few weeks?
If you have ANY problems or questions about stuff, please feel free to drop
me a line and I'll endeavour to sort them out as best Ican.
Finally, as a brief update. I have just received a very large new batch of
applications from New York this week. So several of you who are/or have
been waiting on things for a while, you should be amongst the pile, and
things will be sorted, put on the database, and stuff mailed out early next
week! Because of the not surprising heavy influx (because of the cd!), we
are gonna be out of signed photo's (yeah, they are actually signed and not
copies!) for a while. So you will receive stuff (including the cd), but you
may have to wait for the photo etc. while new stocks are supplies.
For now,
Neil Elliott - DTIFC
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:31:03 +0100
From: Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Superior DT'ish???
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970110073103.006acfcc@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi!
>From: Peter <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu>
>Subject: MP video
>And finally some recommendations for DT like stuffs:
>Symphony X (their "Damnation Game" is great!)
>IQ (try their album "Ever")
>(I don't know why nobody knows these 2 bands... IMO they are more DTish
>than Shadow Gallery, Superior or Lemur Voice.)
Well, we (Superior) never said, that we WANT to sound DT'ish. And I think
we really are not DTish. ... not a flame... just a note. :)
Bye.
Bernd.
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:13:58 +0100 (MET)
From: Mika Numminen <aarre.n@swipnet.se>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Fan Club
Message-ID: <199701100813.JAA17977@janus.swip.net>
>Finally, as a brief update. I have just received a very large new batch of
>applications from New York this week. So several of you who are/or have
>been waiting on things for a while, you should be amongst the pile, and
>things will be sorted, put on the database, and stuff mailed out early next
>week! Because of the not surprising heavy influx (because of the cd!), we
>are gonna be out of signed photo's (yeah, they are actually signed and not
>copies!) for a while. So you will receive stuff (including the cd), but you
>may have to wait for the photo etc. while new stocks are supplies.
Phew! Hope thay sign those before the studio sessions, I'd hate to see them
cramp up in the studio and then blaming the delay on Neil. ;)
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:46:24 GMT
From: nigelb@powerup.com.au (Nigel Bridgeman)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Galactic Cowboys, Queensryche, Rush, DT
Message-ID: <199701100846.IAA20738@enterprise.powerup.com.au>
Howdy, peoples
In regards to the thread about the Galactic Cowboys albums, and which one is
the best, I've found that I can't stop listening to the debut album (not
literally, I suppose I should add... musn't forget these things, lest I get
flamed). It's brilliant. The only track that I don't really like
incredibly much is Sea of Tranquility.
I can't see what's so brilliant about Space in Your Face, tho, apart from
some catchy choruses (You make me smiiiiii-iiiiii-iiiiiiile, etc). Which
isn't to say that it's not a fabbo album, mind you. It is.
And Machine Fish was the first one I bought. I was under the impression
that they were in the DT vain (vein?), but I was happily mistaken...
I love GC though... brill...
OK, Queensryche...
I went into that shop to get that Queensryche boot I mentioned, and IT WAS
GONE!!!
Which one of you bought it?? I was all set to get it and everyfing...
Damn... going to have to sulk now...
And who ever got the idea that QR were prog? Or GC for that matter?
About Rush now...
They didn't get a Grammy nomination for Best Rock Instrumental then? I
thought they would, for Limbo, but the whole time-eligibility thingie is
wacky with the Grammies... I think their year ends in September or October
(correct me if I'm wrong).
Who were the nominees in the Hard Rock and Metal categories?
Obligatory DTC:
Dream Theater are a very good band. This May should mark my first year as a
DT fan.
Also, DT is the main character in the best album of all time, Streets, by
Savatage.
And if you're wondering, no, Savatage aren't my favourite band. They are
either 3rd or 4th, depending on what mood I'm in. They are in constant
battle with GC. Rush are no. 1, then DT, Savatage or GC, then Maiden,
Queensryche, Pink Floyd, Yes (settle down, Tempus), King Crimson, KISS, Def
Leppard and maybe Lemur Voice.
Please note this was not in list format...
See yis,
Brain Salad Spiff
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Date: 10 Jan 97 10:55:27 +0200
From: "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaserla.fi>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: A few of the recent threads...
Message-ID: <9701101055.aa27@tppalv2.metsaserla.fi>
Greetings, ye 'jamanoids...
Just coupla fast ones...
Bands releasing a new full length album every year:
Try Skyclad. At least I think they've released one every year of their
career this far.
Skyclad discography:
-Wayward Sons of Mother Earth 1991 (Noise)
-Burnt Offering for the Bone Idol 1992 (Noise)
-Tracks From the Wilderness-EP 1992 (Noise)
-Jonah's Ark 1993 (Noise)
-Thinking Allowed (Limited edition) 1993 (Noise)
-Prince of the Poverty Line (Limited edition) 1994 (Noise)
-Silent Whales of Lunar Sea 1995 (Noise)
-Irrational Anthems 1996 (Massacre)
-Old Rope (sorta best of) 1996 (Noise)
-Oui Avant-garde ? Chance 1996 (Massacre)
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Musical X thread:
King's X, Symphony X, Eternity X, Bush X, Scott X!, Anarchy-X, Letter X, X and
Racer X. I'm not really sure if one of 'em counts (Beefquad-X), but still...
How come no one's mantioned MapeX yet? Public Enemy's Terminator X? Dinosaurs
like me should've remembered David EsseX also. GrameX (European equivalent of
ASCAP) should also be counted.
On the Paul Shortino/Rough Cutt thread:
80's cheese metal band Rough Cutt's vinyl "Wants You" for sale! Any takers?
>BTW, Rough Cutt have reformed and their live album is available thru
>Perris distribution outta Michigan.
Aarggh.
I have a suggestion for you/us all:
There's this "Progressive Metal list" somewhere on the 'net. Don't ask me
for the URL, I still have no WWW access, but when I last saw it, there was
only a fragment of the bands discussed here. Why don't we all make a
contribution and give the listkeeper a helping hand. I'm sure the list would
get a LOT better if the jammers would make short descriptions with
discographies about any prog metal band they desire and email to listkeeper.
_Mape_
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 04:21:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Rpupkin514@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: MP & JM VIDEOS
Message-ID: <970110042108_1492437661@emout01.mail.aol.com>
According to the official DT web site (www.rsabbs.com/dt/),
MIKE AND JOHN"S INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEOS ARE NOW AVAILABLE WORLDWIDE!!!!! (YES,
U.S. INCLUDED)
Figured I'd pass this along being alot of people have recently wondered about
it.
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:39:19 +0000 (GMT)
From: Graham Borland <graham@grelb.src.gla.ac.uk>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2171
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.93.970110093100.9662A-100000@grelb.src.gla.ac.uk>
Dan wrote:
> I was thinking about joining the DTIFC
That would be a very good move. I've been a subsriber to I&W (the fanzine)
since issue 1, and I joined the *new* fan club. How long's that been . . .
about 2 years? 3 years?
So far it's cost me a total of 25 pounds (I think), and for that money
I've received:
12 (I think) issues of the totally wonderful fanzine
2 tickets to the Ronnie Scott's concert
the DT Christmas CD
a signed photo
an ACOS postcard
my name in print (in fanzine #2!)
This really is disgustingly good value for money, don't you think? And
I've still got a year to run on my current membership.
Graham B.
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:00:25 +0100
From: "Marquering, Wessel" <Wessel.Marquering@econ.kuleuven.ac.be>
To: "'jitseejam@aks.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Lemur Voice on tour with other Magna Carta bands in Europe??
Message-ID: <c=BE%a=_%p=K.U.Leuven%l=ECONSRV8-970110110025Z-10564@econsrv8.econ.kuleuven.ac.be>
The Progressive rock page at
http://pitel-lnx.ibk.fnt.hvu.nl/~martijn/Welcome.html
reports:
Lemur Voice, the first European band that was released by Magna Carta,
is busy writing new songs. The band has already five new songs written,
but there isn't
set a studio date yet. At the moment the band is doing some gigs in the
Netherlands. There are plans for touring with Shadow Gallery (!!) and
Enchant (!!) in
Europe in March 1997. Nothing is confirmed yet, but will keep you
informed!
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 21:25:51 -0800
From: Eddy M <edrock@connexus.apana.org.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: NDTC - Paul Shortino...again
Message-ID: <32D7245F.6344@connexus.apana.org.au>
Paul Shortino also sang with a band called Badd Boyz. I think its pre-
Rough Cutt. Very rare, import only.
Badd Boyz was around 90/91. Saw them numerous times when hanging in LA.
The guiatrist was the mighty Mitch Perry (Talas/Heaven/MSG/Cher) Mitch
has released a solo album in Japan...to expensive !!
Eddy
Melbourne, Australia
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