YTSEJAM Digest 2171
Today's Topics:
1) just had to mention it....
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
2) Free Radicals
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
3) re: X!
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2170
by DJSHEP68@aol.com
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2170
by DJSHEP68@aol.com
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2170
by DJSHEP68@aol.com
7) Ed Wilk please email me
by Drummnstan@aol.com
8) Re: Take the Time.
by Erik Stearns <stearns@bga.com>
9) Re: Female Bands
by Erik Stearns <stearns@bga.com>
10) Knopfler reply (NDTC)
by Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com>
11) Mastermindtour
by "RobertHenderson" <Robert.Henderson@icdc.com>
12) Macarena be not proud
by "RobertHenderson" <Robert.Henderson@icdc.com>
13) xmas cd details again
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
14) speaking of u2...
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
15) blah.
by al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Dan Abosso)
16) re: blah (signed pic)
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
17) X-bands
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
18) DT IFC
by Scott Daugherty <srdaugz2@homer.louisville.edu>
19) T. MacAlpine's Violent Machine (NDTC)
by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
20) Re: MacAlpine
by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
21) Grammies and Paul Northfield
by Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net>
22) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2148
by "RobertHenderson" <Robert.Henderson@icdc.com>
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:40:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: just had to mention it....
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970109133610.11216A-100000@stargate.rs.itd.umich.edu>
in spite of all the crap that did get nominated over far more deserving
artists, i have not yet lost all respect for the Grammies. Their saving
grace? the MACARENA got a grand total of ZERO nominations!!!!!!!!!!!!
and therefore, the slim thread of grammy respect i retain is left
unsevered for another year.....now if someone could explain how Bryan
Adams got a nomination......
partha
did any artists who would be generally popular with this crowd get any
nominations? i haven't seen a complete list....
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:13:53 -0800
From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Free Radicals
Message-ID: <199701091913.LAA14671@main.cfmc.com>
>From: Scott X <skooc@earthlink.net>
>
>>King's X
>>Symphony X
>>Eternity X
>>and of course my personal favorite:
>>Beefquad-X
>
>>Does anyone else see a trend forming?
>
>In Canada Bush is known as Bush X. And don't forget Scott X! ;)
>
>There's also the Queensryche song Anarchy-X
What about X? They've been around longer than the other bands....
>From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
>
>Is anyone here really into Dire Straits? I think Mark Knopfler is one of
>the best guitarists in the world and will always be one of my favorites.
>I can shred like Yngwie or some others, but I can never have the sense of
>melody he does. I think his playing is so beautiful. I'm sorry for
>nothing about DT, but I was just doins some listening and getting chills.
>Be well.
Yeah, absolutely. Knopfler is awesome. Every guitarist oughta take a whack
at "Sultans of Swing," which is just some amazing playing. The first couple
of albums, I'd say, are stronger than the last two, but they're all awfully
good.
>From: matt rosin <msr7146@unix.tamu.edu>
>
>>vocalist for tool is Maynard James Keenan.
>
>yeah, yeah, yeah, i knew i fucked up as soon as i sent it... ;)
What about John Maynard Keynes?
>From: tbaddley@airmail.net (Tom Baddley)
>
>In regards to the comment about GC's first CD being representative of
>thier music overall. I am a huge GC fan...but I have never been able
>to get in to their first CD. Maybe it was because I started with
>"Space in your Face" (after seeing GC for the first time in Dallas
>opening up for DT!). SIYF, I feel, is a much better collection of GC
>tunes. Their song writing skills have continued to improve, as
>"Machine Fish" is also an EXCELLENT CD. I also bought "Feel the Rage"
>EP a month or so back...but I always end up replacing it with MF.
I actually think the first record is stronger than "Machine Fish," which I
think is farther afield from "Space In Your Face" than "Galactic Cowboys"
is. Anyhow, I don't disagree about the second album being better than the
first, but I WOULD say that "Galactic Cowboys" is representative of their
work. I don't really understand your ambivalence about the record, but,
then again, that's the record I started with.
Five Gratuitous CD's:
=====================
1. Rush: Test For Echo
2. Living Color: Vivid
3. Genesis: Invisible Touch
4. Rage Against The Machine: Evil Empire
5. Shankar: Nobody Told Me
Adam D. Barnhart
adamb@cfmc.com
ydnt85a@prodigy.com
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Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 19:16:01 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: X!
Message-ID: <32D543F1.794B@mailstorm.dot.gov>
Currently:
>King's X
>Symphony X
>Eternity X
>Beefquad-X
>Bush X
>Anarchy-X
And, of course, X :)
-- *------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------*------------------------------
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:06:55 -0500 (EST) From: DJSHEP68@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2170 Message-ID: <970109145929_71390458@emout16.mail.aol.com>
There's also the band Letter X ( very cool melodic/prog metal from Germany)
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:22:40 -0500 (EST) From: DJSHEP68@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2170 Message-ID: <970109150545_1656667787@emout13.mail.aol.com>
Paul Shortino also sang with a band called Badd Boyz. I think its pre- Rough Cutt. Very rare, import only.
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:25:39 -0500 (EST) From: DJSHEP68@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2170 Message-ID: <970109151919_1417518564@emout09.mail.aol.com>
Yes, Ray Gillen did die. Have you heard the last project he was involved with? It's called Sun Red Sun. It was finished up after his death. A number of people appear: Al Romano, Mike Starr(Alice in Chains),Bobby Rondinelli(Rainbow),Chris Caffery(Savatage). Check it out, it's pretty good.
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:35:56 -0500 (EST) From: Drummnstan@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ed Wilk please email me Message-ID: <970109152852_712624494@emout10.mail.aol.com>
ed please email me i got your tape and want to run a few things by you.
laterz, stan
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Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 15:22:02 -0800 From: Erik Stearns <stearns@bga.com> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Take the Time. Message-ID: <32D57D9A.3122@bga.com>
The CD is Images and Words, The song Take the time. Just after the part where JL sings "Ican see much clearer, Now I'm blind." Is that what I was told it was?
Thanks.
-- An Open mind is the thriving of a society while the closed mind is the downfall of the same. For in Saroks's words, "The spear in the others's heart is the spear in your own. You are he."
-- From the "Freedom" Speech to Larion's Congress
Erik Stearns Starblazer Enterprises Inc. 3201 Duval Road #1422 Austin, TX 78759 (512)719-1252 Fax: (512) 719-1066 stearns@bga.com http://www.starblazer.com
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Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 15:24:50 -0800 From: Erik Stearns <stearns@bga.com> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Female Bands Message-ID: <32D57E42.190A@bga.com>
Another Band I heard that is based here in Austin that is making national headway is Black Pearl. They're pretty good as well.
Check it out.
-- An Open mind is the thriving of a society while the closed mind is the downfall of the same. For in Saroks's words, "The spear in the others's heart is the spear in your own. You are he."
-- From the "Freedom" Speech to Larion's Congress
Erik Stearns Starblazer Enterprises Inc. 3201 Duval Road #1422 Austin, TX 78759 (512)719-1252 Fax: (512) 719-1066 stearns@bga.com http://www.starblazer.com
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:03:44 -0600 From: Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Knopfler reply (NDTC) Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=GE%l=AMERIDATA/ADNC/000F495F@msb01ncadctmsge.ameridata.com>
>>>>Is anyone here really into Dire Straits? I think Mark Knopfler is one of the best guitarists in the world and will always be one of my favorites. I can shred like Yngwie or some others, but I can never have the sense of melody he does. I think his playing is so beautiful......
MK's style is somewhat different from the typical metal shredder. As I understand, he is more of a picker than a shredder, i.e., he's a finger-picker. In this he is more like a C&W guitarist (not saying he is; its just where the technique is more common.) I know he made a recording w/ Chet Atkins, one of the better C&W guitarists a few years ago, A MK/DS home page: http://www-students.unisg.ch/~tgygax/ds/index.html
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:43:35 -0500 From: "RobertHenderson" <Robert.Henderson@icdc.com> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Mastermindtour Message-ID: <199701092318.SAA31832@darkstar.icdc.com>
I got this off the ELP Digest. Thought it might be of interest to some o' you fellers/fellerettes...
Brian Henderson, Cyberburlap robert.henderson@icdc.com
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Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 03:27:09 -0500 To: John Arnold <arnold@dartmouth.coordinate.com> From: Bill Berends <bberends@mosquito.com> Subject: MASTERMIND live in Japan
MASTERMIND - January 1997 Live Shows
Jan. 17 (Fri) - MIDDLE EAST, Philadelphia Jan. 18 (Sat) - Baltimore Progressive Rock Showcase
MASTERMIND live in Japan!
Jan. 23 (Thu) - ON AIR WEST - Shibuya, Tokyo Jan. 24 (Fri) - FLIGHT OF FUCHU - Tokyo * Jan. 25 (Sat) - EGGMAN - Shibuya, Tokyo Jan. 27 (Mon) - MESSE HALL - Sapporo
* Bill Berends performs with Soh Band Trio
For more info about MASTERMIND recordings and concerts: http://www.mosquito.com/~bberends/mastermind
Happy New Year to all!
Bill Berends c/o MASTERMIND
-- ========================================== Bill Berends <bberends@mosquito.com> http://www.mosquito.com/~bberends/ ==========================================
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:27:32 -0500 From: "RobertHenderson" <Robert.Henderson@icdc.com> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Macarena be not proud Message-ID: <199701092318.SAA31830@darkstar.icdc.com>
>It is a very good album, tho (Streets, not the Macarena).
Have Los Delo Rios (or whoever the Mongoloids who wrote the Macarena were) even made an album? I've only ever seen that song on dance-mix compilations and such. One-hit*-wonderX10^n.
* Here's my theory on Macarena... It's *not* actually popular, nor was it ever. Nobody actually liked the song. The media found it somehow, decided they needed a fluff story, and told the masses it was the next "big thing". The "weak-minded" (perhaps "mislead" would be a kinder term... Bah, what do I care...) picked up on this and assumed it was true. Next thing you know, Hawaiian Punch is using it to sell punch, John MacCarter's talking about it on GIANT radio (some sort of chip dip that was supposed to be the Macarena... don't ask me, I only work there), and 14 clubs use it in their routines for the Mummer's Parade. Maybe I'm way off, but I smell *conspiracy*. I bet the CIA, Bigfoot, and Hitlerbot were in on it too...
Brian Henderson, Cyberburlap robert.henderson@icdc.com
"Oh!" -- Mrs. Thomas, 11th grade English, after finding the Jack London record which had been on the player had been secretly swapped (by yours truly and Scotty McMicken) for Yngwie J. Malmsteen's "Marching Out"...
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Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 16:11:35 -0600 From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: xmas cd details again Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970109221135.006b01cc@mail.inlink.com>
> >OK, can someone please tell me exactly what the mysterious, secret DT Xmas >CD is? People are talking about it, but no one has said what it is. It looks >like I have no chance of getting one now, but I would at least like to know >what it is.
ok, the dt x-mas disc was something sent to everyone in the DT international fan club last december (iced earth ref:) tracklist includes 3 ronnie scotts tracks, a u2, metallica, and rush cover, plus a version of o holy night in top sound from a soundcheck.. and you cant forget the two lovely intro and outro tracks of the band goofing off in the studio and doing some free jamming. :)
~Rip
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Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 16:12:57 -0600 From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: speaking of u2... Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970109221257.006d5550@mail.inlink.com>
i just mentioned u2 on the xmas disc, and if anyone's interested mtv's been playing nonstop u2 all day because of the new disc due out march 4th. the new song is pretty groovin', very dance-esque, but still sounds like a band not a dj. i'll probably pick up the album, its real fun stuff :)
~Rip
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 17:59:35 -0500 (EST) From: al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Dan Abosso) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: blah. Message-ID: <199701092259.RAA05264@osfn.org>
Hello Jammers, I was thinking about joining the DTIFC, and if you join, you get a "signed" picture of the band (among other things)... Is this picture actually signed by the members of the band, or is it one of those cheap "copies-of-their-autograph" picture? - Dan
-- Friendly fire in hostile waters...
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Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 16:59:14 -0600 From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: re: blah (signed pic) Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970109225914.006986ac@mail.inlink.com>
>I was thinking about joining the DTIFC, and if you join, you get >a "signed" picture of the band (among other things)... Is this picture >actually signed by the members of the band, or is it one of those cheap >"copies-of-their-autograph" picture?
well, i've got one, looks pretty damn real to me. even despite this picture though the fan club is one hundred percent worth signing up to. you wont regret it. refer to my previous two posts. :) ~Rip
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:17:33 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: X-bands Message-ID: <199701092317.SAA07606@newman.cris.com>
Scott-X wrote,
>>King's X >>Symphony X >>Eternity X >>and of course my personal favorite: >>Beefquad-X > >>Does anyone else see a trend forming? > >In Canada Bush is known as Bush X. And don't forget Scott X! ;) > >There's also the Queensryche song Anarchy-X
I don't need to mention Racer-X, but there once was a band located in Western Massachusetts by the name of Plastic-X. They were an amusing metal band, with songs named "Dope Jam", "Turning the Knife", "Fuck You!", and "We Fuck Antelope", whose former bass player Chris "Junior" LaPlante found himself playing for Mucky Pup. I wish my Plastic-X "Dope Jam" t-shirt weren't as worn out as it is. It was fun to wear.
-Rick Audet
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Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 19:28:59 -0500 From: Scott Daugherty <srdaugz2@homer.louisville.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT IFC Message-ID: <30F3084B.551@homer.louisville.edu>
Mark Peters said: > package. Neil was the one who told me how to join, but he expressly told > me not to email him with questions about the fanclub. Does anyone know
Does that bother anyone else? I mean, the director of the fanclub not wanting to deal with questions about the fanclub? Say it ain't so Neil.
Scott Daugherty
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:47:38 -0600 (CST) From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytse Jam) Subject: T. MacAlpine's Violent Machine (NDTC) Message-ID: <199701100047.SAA24253@parka.winternet.com>
Jammers,
I got just about a dozen requests for where to find Tony MacAlpine's latest release, and as most of you know it is impossible to find in stores. It is available however through :
Metropolis Records P.O. Box 9446 North Hollywood, CA 91609-1446
Violent Machine CD MET-VM001 $15.00 Violent Machine T-Shirt $12.00 (specify L or XL)
For shipping add $2 per item.
Tell them Nathan Bradley sent you. You probably won't get a discount but it will make me look good. ;-)
Later,
Nathan Bradley -------------------------------------------------------------------------- savaweb@winternet.com Savatage Fan Web Pages Trans-Siberian Orchestra Web Pages www.winternet.com/~savaweb www.winternet.com/~savaweb/tso --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 19:02:18 -0600 (CST) From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: MacAlpine Message-ID: <199701100102.TAA24429@parka.winternet.com>
> > >I will be asking him why hasn't Shrapnel picked up his latest release > >"Violent Machine" yet. > > Shrapnel probably won't get it because Tony will make a LOT More money by > staying offthe label. Shrapnel and Magna Carta it would seem have pretty > unfair recording contracts (I now have multiple sources for this statement > {none of which are on the jam}, although they don't want to be named, so I > have to believe this is fact). If Tony was getting eaten alive like some of > these people were and are, then I don't at ALL blame him. >
I have heard that explaination too. And it just maybe true. Even longtime Shrapnel Artist Marty Friedman is not using them for his latest release "True Obsessions". I guess Shrapnel may be a good place to start, but once established break away from.
Nathan Bradley
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- savaweb@winternet.com Savatage Fan Web Pages Trans-Siberian Orchestra Web Pages www.winternet.com/~savaweb www.winternet.com/~savaweb/tso --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 20:19:37 -0500 (EST) From: Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Grammies and Paul Northfield Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970109202001.0987ce12@access.mountain.net>
At 10:50 AM 1/9/97 -0800, someone wrote: >and therefore, the slim thread of grammy respect i retain is left >unsevered for another year.....now if someone could explain how Bryan >Adams got a nomination......
If you could explain to me how he still has a career, then we can work on the Grammy thing! :)
>did any artists who would be generally popular with this crowd get any >nominations? i haven't seen a complete list....
Eric Johnson's "Pavillion" and Joe Satriani's "(You're) My World" are nominated for Best Rock Instrumental. But that's about it, AFAIK.
On a different note, someone mentioned Paul Northfield as a possible producer for the next DT album. I was flipping thru the liner notes to the live Gentle Giant album _Playing the Fool_, and his name popped out as the engineer. It sounds quite good for a late 70s live album, and the performance is amazing.
Just thought I'd throw that in.
Jonathan Byrne, 1L West Virginia University College of Law rael@access.mountain.net (WormWood or DrNick on IRC) http://access.mountain.net/~rael/jdbhome2.htm ----------------------------------------------------------- "How come the psychic hot line never told Dionne Warwick that her career was gonna hit the wall harder than Mr. Magoo playing jai alai?" -Dennis Miller, _The Rants_
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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 14:08:52 -0500 From: "RobertHenderson" <Robert.Henderson@icdc.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2148 Message-ID: <199701100135.RAA03296@king.ax.com>
> In order to acheave this, I will take the half bottle of depacote >and some vitamons that I have around here with a bottle of Aleve, and >some Nyquil, washed down with a few Long Island Teas.
And the award for creepiest post to the 'Jam goes to...
I sure hope this is/was a joke.
Brian Henderson, Cyberburlap robert.henderson@icdc.com
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