YTSEJAM Digest 2170
Today's Topics:
1) oops - DTIFC question
by Big.Swifty@twav.com
2) Re: Take the Time and New signature.
by Wayne and/or Carole Chesser <AChesser@concentric.net>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2169
by ckoenig@wr.bbnplanet.com (Carriann Koenig)
4) Re: Femaile bands.
by ckoenig@wr.bbnplanet.com (Carriann Koenig)
5) Re: Femaile bands.
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2169
by Jan van Huizen <aurora@wirehub.nl>
7) new album evry year
by <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
8) MacAlpine
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
9) re: X!
by Scott X <skooc@earthlink.net>
10) Re: Femaile bands.
by Drummnstan@aol.com
11) Question for Macalpine
by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
12) DT's Members..
by edwilk@juno.com (Edward J Wilk)
13) concert only instrumentals (again)
by curth@execpc.com
14) great band
by Drummnstan@aol.com
15) NDTC. Dire Straits
by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
16) Paul Shortino,Mark Boals
by "Graham Boyle" <graham@no1.com.au>
17) MP video
by Peter <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu>
18) Re: Merlin
by "Siegfried Hanisch" <siegfried.hanisch@ibm.net>
19) NDTC - PAUL shortino
by Eddy M <edrock@connexus.apana.org.au>
20) Re: vocalists
by matt rosin <msr7146@unix.tamu.edu>
21) jam up?
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
22) Galactic Cowboys
by tbaddley@airmail.net (Tom Baddley)
23) Argh Argh Fuck Fuck Argh
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
24) Christmas CD
by "Kendall, Guy" <GKENDALL@COSMPDGATE.CO.SYMBIOS.COM>
25) Artension - new prog band (Shrapnel)
by "Marquering, Wessel" <Wessel.Marquering@econ.kuleuven.ac.be>
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Date: 8 Jan 1997 16:32:00 CDT
From: Big.Swifty@twav.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: oops - DTIFC question
Message-ID: <199701082126.NAA06223@pawn.ax.com>
Oops! Didn't mean to do that....
I sent a check to the DTIFC back in October. My check was returned to
me, cashed of course, but I still haven't received the Xmas care
package. Neil was the one who told me how to join, but he expressly told
me not to email him with questions about the fanclub. Does anyone know
where I can direct my questions about the DTIFC? If so, any help would
be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Mark Peters
big.swifty@twav.com
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Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 15:33:12 -0600
From: Wayne and/or Carole Chesser <AChesser@concentric.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Take the Time and New signature.
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970108213312.00b7fb04@pop3.concentric.net>
At 08:41 PM 1/7/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Hey guys. Just wanted to let you know that I ran that insert by a
>linguist friend of mine and he told me that it's an old Russsian sample
>reading from one of Chekov's works and that it said (in a rough
>translation) "If you realize what you see, you will learn to live."
What insert? Did I miss something? I, too, am a Russian linguist and am
interested to see it. Is it in one of the CDs?
-- Wayne"A different opinion is just another point of view" - Fates Warning
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 13:44:24 -0800 (PST) From: ckoenig@wr.bbnplanet.com (Carriann Koenig) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2169 Message-ID: <aef721b91d021003a1fc@[204.160.73.70]>
Did Ray Gillian die of throat cancer a few years ago?
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 13:48:02 -0800 (PST) From: ckoenig@wr.bbnplanet.com (Carriann Koenig) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Femaile bands. Message-ID: <aef722491e021003c3c5@[204.160.73.70]>
<<I was up late the other night and heard this band named Poe. They played one song called "Hello." I thought it was pretty goog You might want to check them out as well. >>
actually, the singers name is poe, and yes the CD is called hello and includes alot of great songs, there is even a guest appearence by Gn'Rs drummer Matt Sorum. this chick is even greater in concert, saw her when she opened up for 7mary3 (dont know why i went to that)at the TLA in Philly, never heard her B4 and was blown away.
so what is the name of the band? from your reviews i'd be interested in hearing there music.
thanks,
carri
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:18:57 -0500 (EST) From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Femaile bands. Message-ID: <199701082221.OAA07341@pawn.ax.com>
> actually, the singers name is poe, and yes the CD is called hello and > includes alot of great songs, there is even a guest appearence by Gn'Rs > drummer Matt Sorum. this chick is even greater in concert, saw her when she > opened up for 7mary3 (dont know why i went to that)at the TLA in Philly, > never heard her B4 and was blown away. > > so what is the name of the band? from your reviews i'd be interested in > hearing there music. > > thanks, > > carri > > > The name of the singer is Poe, and that is what it goes by - she's a solo artist..........I think the album is self-titled as well, though I may be wrong on it.....
- AL
p.s. - Anyone know of a place to by DoE???? I still want it, since it was the 1st Dt show I was at......
-- @#%^$#%^#$&#%%$&#$%^#$%^#$%&#$%^&#$%^&#$%&#$%&#$%&#$%&#$%&#$%^&%$ | | | I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.... | | | #$%^#%&#%^$*%&*^&*%&(%^&(%^&*(%^&*(*%^&*$^&*#^%&#^*$%^&*#%^&*#$%& | Al Balkiewicz SEND MAIL HERE -->balkiewi @ njmsa.umdnj.edu | | OR HERE! --->DA_PROF @ BIGFOOT.COM | %@#$^@#$^@^%%$&#$&^*$%&*$&*$%^$&$%^&$%^*$^%&*$%^&*$%^*$%^&%$^&%$%
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Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 00:57:23 +0100 From: Jan van Huizen <aurora@wirehub.nl> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2169 Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970108235723.0069e7b8@mail.wirehub.nl>
> I just might have the *highest* numbered Xmas CD, just as a matter >of extremely fringe trivia. :) Can anyone beat #1000? Given that the print >run was supposedly 1000 (or did I confuse that with another disc?) it >would sort of have to be. > >- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - ASU Sun Devils 11-1, PAC 10 Champs! >
Mine is #1048, so no print run of 1000. Sorry Mike :-) Who beats my #1048 ?
Aurora
PS Any Jammers who will be attending the For Absent Friends/Lemur Voice gig at the Blokhut in Rotterdam (17th of January) ? Maybe we can get together. I'm sure Itchy will be there, and so will I.
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 02:11:50 +0200 From: <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool" To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: new album evry year Message-ID: <199701090016.CAA04924@pepe.online.ee>
> by the fact that back in the 70's it was expected that a band would > release a new album every year. Are there any bands today that > release a full CD of original material every year?
None come to mind, vice versa. The latest trend is to wait forever between two releases.
Then again, I'd be broke and in debt very soon if my favorite artists began releasing something every year (and maybe twice sometimes). Add the singles, live albums, bootlegs, compilations, tribute albums...
Ta"itsa perses, kui palju peaks pappi va"lja ka"ima. Paljalt sellele mo~tlemisest tulevad hirmujudinad peale. :-)
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Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 18:42:32 -0600 From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: MacAlpine Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970109004232.0072797c@enteract.com>
>I will be asking him why hasn't Shrapnel picked up his latest release >"Violent Machine" yet.
Shrapnel probably won't get it because Tony will make a LOT More money by staying offthe label. Shrapnel and Magna Carta it would seem have pretty unfair recording contracts (I now have multiple sources for this statement {none of which are on the jam}, although they don't want to be named, so I have to believe this is fact). If Tony was getting eaten alive like some of these people were and are, then I don't at ALL blame him.
Chris W. Ptacek Musician and Listener A.K.A Madsman, on IRC
"Can we search for inspiration -- those ideas that just come from 'nowhere'? They don't surface when you're tHiNKinG. They just come. What we CAN do is make fertile the ground on which idea seeds fall." - Michael Hedges
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:05:52 -0800 (PST) From: Scott X <skooc@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: X! Message-ID: <199701090105.RAA28720@norway.it.earthlink.net>
>King's X >Symphony X >Eternity X >and of course my personal favorite: >Beefquad-X
>Does anyone else see a trend forming?
In Canada Bush is known as Bush X. And don't forget Scott X! ;)
There's also the Queensryche song Anarchy-X
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 20:53:54 -0500 (EST) From: Drummnstan@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Femaile bands. Message-ID: <970108184447_1559313285@emout15.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 1/8/97 10:05:42 PM, you wrote:
<< so what is the name of the band? from your reviews i'd be interested in hearing there music.
thanks,
carri >>
the name the CD is Hello and it is by Poe herself it is a good disc.
laterz, stan
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 21:16:45 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Question for Macalpine Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970108211544.1418G-100000@colrain.williams.edu>
To the guy who spoke of Macalpine, Please ask the man if he's still giving lessons. If he is, could you find out where out of and how to get on the waiting list? Rumor has it he lives in the Bay Area and I'd really like to get some lessons if he has the slots open. Last I heard, he was still teaching. Thanks. Matt B
"The dead are rarely violent." (Shawn Rosenheim, Asst. Prof. Williams College)
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Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 21:58:30 EST From: edwilk@juno.com (Edward J Wilk) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT's Members.. Message-ID: <19970108.215838.9054.2.EdWilk@juno.com>
Heya,
Me and Bret (who just started posting to the 'Jam recently.. but then again, so did I) were talking about how cool the individual members of DT were recently. Not just as musicians, but as people. For example, in LiT, how funny KevMo is. (Yes, I know KevMo isn't in DT anymore, I'm still going through withdrawl) So we we talking about each individual member, and we got to John Myung and realized that we really don't know as much about him as the others. He's kinda "quiet" on stage, isn't much seen on LiT, etc. I've seen many bios on them and read the FAQ many a time, but it still doesn't seem like we really know much about him, personality-wise.. I don't really know what kind of an answer I'm looking for... maybe if someone could reccomend a video that has more of Myung on it?
Ytse-Ed
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 21:38:39 -0600 (CST) From: curth@execpc.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: concert only instrumentals (again) Message-ID: <199701090338.VAA20804@mail.execpc.com>
>> real Dream Theater Fan. This thing is f*cking awesome! JP's solo >> at the end of To Live Forever might be the highlight of the vid. >> This is Barfbag, right? (reopening an old controversy). Of course,
>Actually the song is called "moonbubbles." "Barfbag" appears on the Mike >Bahr WDATU disc. However, he labelled it as "showdown."
AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!! No no no no no!!! - here we go again!! :) :)
Okay everyone take notes (or check out the "article" about instrumentals on the official DT web page!)
Moon Bubbles was an instrumental done during the first part of the I&W tour - it consisted of bass and guitar - that's all. Once you here this track, you'll understand why it was called Moon Bubbles.
The solo at the end of TLF (which is on the LiT video as well as the Lords of Sound, and Dream in Progress boots) as far as I know has no name.
Barfbag as is stated above is the instrumental that follows TLF during the final part of the I&W tour. This is the instrumental that appears after TLF on WDATU as well as on the Lost in the Sky boot.
Hope everything is clear now (for at least 6 months ;) ).
Scott Hansen curth@execpc.com
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:03:55 -0500 (EST) From: Drummnstan@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: great band Message-ID: <970108213657_1857044288@emout19.mail.aol.com>
ok, for about the past year or so i have been listening to a band from canada called Our Lady Peace, anyone else listen to this band? IMO i think they are really f@#kin great, i got into them when i caught them live, anyone else dig these guys?
laterz, stan
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:56:53 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NDTC. Dire Straits Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970109005429.26269B-100000@colrain.williams.edu>
Is anyone here really into Dire Straits? I think Mark Knopfler is one of the best guitarists in the world and will always be one of my favorites. I can shred like Yngwie or some others, but I can never have the sense of melody he does. I think his playing is so beautiful. I'm sorry for nothing about DT, but I was just doins some listening and getting chills. Be well. Matt B
"The dead are rarely violent." (Shawn Rosenheim, Asst. Prof. Williams College)
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:56:03 +0000 From: "Graham Boyle" <graham@no1.com.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Paul Shortino,Mark Boals Message-ID: <199701092355.4655400@no1.com.au>
Paul Shortino also sang on one album with Quiet Riot, released in 1988, he replaced Kevin DeBruw Mark Boals was singer on Yngwie Malmsteem's 'Trilogy' album
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:00:55 +0100 (MET) From: Peter <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: MP video Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970109100023.6453A-100000@speed.eik.bme.hu>
Hey Hi! > P.S.: Anyone know if Mike P. has an instructional drumming video > coming out soon? I thought I heard a rumour about this. I mentioned > it mostly as a joke to the proprietor of Atlanta Pro Percussion and > he said "Whew, wish there was; there'd be a LOT of interest in it!" In the last year I was in Japan and saw a MP instructional video. Well, I'm not a drummer and it was very expensive so I didn't buy but I know there are Japanese jammers here so you can ask for it (I believe this video is released only in Japan, as a lot of other things...) And I've heard about a bass instr. video from J. Myung (just for Japan, too). Has anybody seen it? I would like to know what parts of songs are on this (maybe "that" part from Metropolis??) And finally some recommendations for DT like stuffs: Symphony X (their "Damnation Game" is great!) IQ (try their album "Ever") (I don't know why nobody knows these 2 bands... IMO they are more DTish than Shadow Gallery, Superior or Lemur Voice.) Bye, Mr. Bungle ---------------------------------------------- | Don't tell my Mom I work for MTV | | She thinks I make Kiddie-Porn-Death-Videos | ----------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 07 Jan 97 21:12:45 +0200 From: "Siegfried Hanisch" <siegfried.hanisch@ibm.net> To: "Ytsejam mailing list" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Merlin Message-ID: <199701090958.JAA05078@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net>
Hi!
I am running Warp 4 Merlin on a 701CS (486/75 with 16MB RAM) and on a 760EL (P5/120, 40 MB) without any problems. Hot-swapping PCMCIA cards works as expected (Modem card, IBM Tokenring).
Check the IBM WWW pages at www.pcco.ibm.com for OS/2 drivers if you need them, esp. for the newer models there are drivers available which were not yet included on the Warp 4 Device Driver CD-ROM.
Greetings # Quick to judge Siegfried Hanisch # Quick to anger =====================================# Slow to understand siegfried.hanisch@ibm.net # Ignorance and prejudice ssaver@ibm.net (ScreenSaver support) # And fear =====================================# Walk hand in hand http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8925811/ # Rush - "Witch Hunt" PGP public key available # Team OS/2 #
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Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 22:55:30 -0800 From: Eddy M <edrock@connexus.apana.org.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NDTC - PAUL shortino Message-ID: <32D5E7E2.5334@connexus.apana.org.au>
After Rough Cutt, PS sang on the selftitled Quiet Riot album (1988) after the band had sacked Kevin DuBrow.
Shortino also released a solo album in 93? with ace NoCal guitar player Jeff Northrup. Its called Back on Track and as far as I know woz only released in Europe.
BTW, Rough Cutt have reformed and their live album is available thru Perris distribution outta Michigan.
Eddy Melbourne, Australia
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Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 08:14:03 -0600 From: matt rosin <msr7146@unix.tamu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: vocalists Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970109081403.0069c06c@unix.tamu.edu>
>the vocalist for Tool... >>> > >vocalist for tool is Maynard James Keenan.
yeah, yeah, yeah, i knew i fucked up as soon as i sent it... ;)
-matt.
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:28:46 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: jam up? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970109092738.18509B-100000@bdmserver>
hey is the jam up?
no jams since yesterday.... Just wondering what was going on... I got to zip through my messages today since there were no jams:(
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 16:20:17 GMT From: tbaddley@airmail.net (Tom Baddley) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Galactic Cowboys Message-ID: <32d51ab7.3162971@mail.airmail.net>
In regards to the comment about GC's first CD being representative of thier music overall. I am a huge GC fan...but I have never been able to get in to their first CD. Maybe it was because I started with "Space in your Face" (after seeing GC for the first time in Dallas opening up for DT!). SIYF, I feel, is a much better collection of GC tunes. Their song writing skills have continued to improve, as "Machine Fish" is also an EXCELLENT CD. I also bought "Feel the Rage" EP a month or so back...but I always end up replacing it with MF.
Tom Baddley
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:45:41 -0500 From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Argh Argh Fuck Fuck Argh Message-ID: <199701091645.LAA09720@wicked.stigmata.org>
Hey All ...
I kinda sorta like deleted my mail folder last night which had all my incoming mail in it. So, if you have sent me any mail in the last week or so that I haven't answered and you expect I would be, please re-mail it to me. I have a decent idea (about 22/34) of the mails I deleted, but I know there were some others that I can't think of. So, if you sent me anything please re-mail
Thanks Skadz
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Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 10:43:00 MST From: "Kendall, Guy" <GKENDALL@COSMPDGATE.CO.SYMBIOS.COM> To: ytsejam-post-address <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Christmas CD Message-ID: <32D52DF0@mpdmsgtw.co.symbios.com>
OK, can someone please tell me exactly what the mysterious, secret DT Xmas CD is? People are talking about it, but no one has said what it is. It looks like I have no chance of getting one now, but I would at least like to know what it is.
--- Guy Kendall - Software Development Engineer Guy.Kendall@Symbios.COM Symbios Logic, Inc. (Formerly NCR Microelectronics) 4420 ArrowsWest Drive Voice: 719-533-7518 Colorado Springs, CO 80907-3444 Fax: 719-533-7240
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 19:25:06 +0100 From: "Marquering, Wessel" <Wessel.Marquering@econ.kuleuven.ac.be> To: "'jitseejam@aks.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Artension - new prog band (Shrapnel) Message-ID: <c=BE%a=_%p=K.U.Leuven%l=ECONSRV8-970109182506Z-10296@econsrv8.econ.kuleuven.ac.be>
Last Monday I heard a song of Artension, a new prog rock band. It sounded like a combination of Dream Theater and Yngwie Malmsteen (his first album). The following is partly taken from a Website:
"Artension is the name of a new band, formed around the keyboard player Vitalij Kuprij, born in Ukraine, and the Swiss guitarist Roger Staffelbach. Mike Varney, the big boss behind the Shrapnel label, coupled those 2 musicians on account of their demo to 3 American colleagues. These 3 musicians are singer John West, bass player Kevin Chown (played with Tony MacAlpine!!!) and drummer Mike Terrana (Tony MacAlpine and ex-Yngwie!!!). The debut album of Artension, titled 'Into The Eye Of The Storm', received possitive reactions in the US. The music of Artension is best described as progressive and neo-classic hardrock and therefore it will be interesting for people who like bands as Rainbow, Deep Purple and Dream Theater."
A Belgium magazine gives 90 out of 100 and compares them with DT and SG.
I think it's worth checking out.
BTW: The album is called: Into the eye of the storm
------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wessel Marquering Centre for Economic Studies Katholieke Universiteit Leuven Naamsestraat 69, B-3000 Leuven Belgium Phone: +32-(0)16-326849 fax:+32-(0)16-326796 e-mail: Wessel.Marquering@econ.kuleuven.ac.be -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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