YTSEJAM Digest 2219
Today's Topics:
1) Really stupid topic... skip this...
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
2) Re: Swapped Binary
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
3) Jan Hammer
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
4) Re: Keyboard instructional, toys
by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
5) Chic Corea
by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
6) JLB/Chester Thompson/What I'm Doing
by Big.Swifty@twav.com
7) Chester
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
8) RE: Believer
by Matthew Travis <tool@prairienet.org>
9) See yis
by Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au>
10) Re: Portnoy at NAMM
by "Eddie J Cooper" <eddie@abacus.co.uk>
11) Dorks from Alabama and Georgia!
by "Beavis (Wes Foll)" <wfoll@america.net>
12) The Jon Finn Group (little DTC)
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
13) NDTC - Magellan/Kaiser
by Eddy M <edrock@connexus.apana.org.au>
14) Burner....
by Timothy Adams <adamst@wasc.egginc.com>
15) Zebra (no DTC)
by "Mike Patrick" <mepatrick@iquest.net>
16) Guitar, Victor...
by Andrew Forcier <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
17) Correction...
by Andrew Forcier <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
18) X Bands / King's X
by tbaddley@airmail.net (Tom Baddley)
19) Comments on DT's Fans
by rwarren@memphisonline.com
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 00:00:50 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Really stupid topic... skip this...
Message-ID: <199701230711.AAA06971@cyberhighway.net>
> Sinter Klaus brought me a copy of Queensryche's "Promised Land" CD-ROM.
> Extremely cool and all, but... Why does it have to be so hard?! I beat
> Scott Rockenfield's damn drum puzzle, and it still didn't give me the
> totem piece! Waaah! I wanna hear the new song...
Mail me privately and I'll give you the stupid duh code that gets you
there. I was sick of not finding the totem in Eddie's world (found
it in Scott and Geoff's) so I thought, "They're not stupid enuff to
use this code as the final crack are they, or did theythink I'm not
stupid enuff to try it?" Anyway, slap yourself in the forehead and
try the most obviuos, if it don't work mail me.
> My brother got these toys for Christmas called "Beast Wars". Your
> typical Transformers rip-off (very blatant too -- gorillabot is named
> "Optimus Primate"). Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there another
> series of toys also by the name of "Beast Wars" several years ago? They
> were little rubbery action figures standing maybe half the height of a
> G.I. Joe, and had animal heads. I've got one somewhere, a tapirman
> missing its arms, but no box/wrapping to check the product "name".
> Anyone care to shed some light on this conundrum?
OK this is waaaay of topix. :) Browsing around for a frisbee for the
mutt in King's I saw these Beast Wars things. Granted they look like
T-Former rip-offs, but maybe that's cuz Transformers was written in
little lettering over the Beast Wars logo. (at least the ones I saw
had that). Also, the other tooys you were thinking of were called
Battle Beasts. You remember, the stupid toys they sold so you could
rub their bellys and make the wood, fire, or water symbol appear? My
little brother collected every one they made and has em tucked away
somewhere now. Damn little shit inherited all my GI Joe guys, too.
I want my Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes back, dammit. :P
:Later...
KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore)
ibanez@cyberhighway.net
"Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to."
--David Arkenstone
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 00:09:19 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Swapped Binary
Message-ID: <199701230719.AAA08276@cyberhighway.net>
> Yeah, he HAS been around for a long time. He's done a number of things,
> including the movie and telvision themes, some solo work...even that record
> he did with Neal Schon (anyone remember that thing?) He's really a superior
> player and probably the master of the pitch wheel -- he's a very guitaristic
> player, like Derek.
AHHHHH!!!
What album is this? I try to collect everything that Neal Schon
does. The guy is phenominal, imo. I even got that HSAS one he did
with Sammy Hagar a long time ago, and Beyond the Thunder totally
rules. Help me out on this so I can order it ASAP. :)
Thanks.
KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore)
ibanez@cyberhighway.net
"Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to."
--David Arkenstone
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 23:36:29 -0800
From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com
Subject: Jan Hammer
Message-ID: <199701230736.XAA00152@ms.kallback.com>
>Jan Hammer is most famous, unfortunately, as the composer of the theme for
>TV's *Miami Vice*. Jan Hammer is also featured on some of the earlier Jeff
>Beck solo albums.
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Jan also did an album with James Young from Styx after they broke up.
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 02:47:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Keyboard instructional, toys
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970123024446.32153D-100000@colrain.williams.edu>
I think Chic Korea put out a video. I'll Check it out and return. And
they were battle beasts, damn it. "Wood!" "Fire! Fire burns wood!
Fire!" "Water! Water puts out fire! Water" "Wood! Wood beats water!!!!"
Yee hah! And God damn it, that the hell is a bafu anyway? Bye-bye. Be
well.
Matt B"
"The dead are rarely violent." (Shawn Rosenheim, Asst. Prof. Williams
College)
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 02:57:25 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Chic Corea
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970123025603.30460A-100000@colrain.williams.edu>
OK. Chic's vidios (there two) are these: The Electric Workshop which
covers creation of the synth sounds he uses; The Keyboard Workshop:
Methedos of Composition, Improvization, and Practice. Hope this helps.
Matt B
"The dead are rarely violent." (Shawn Rosenheim, Asst. Prof. Williams College)
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Date: 23 Jan 1997 02:55:52 CDT
From: Big.Swifty@twav.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: JLB/Chester Thompson/What I'm Doing
Message-ID: <199701230804.AAA08321@pawn.ax.com>
YT> It seems that some place DT on way too high a pedestal..just an
YT>opinion. Its not like I'm saying LaBrie completely sucks man!! Because
YT>I know he obviously doesn't (his stuf on the RUSH Tribute is excellent).
You know, Red Barchetta is fantastic on WM, but I think that it could
have been better. How? Well, I will always be an admirer of JLB's voice.
Unfortunately, on RB, his voice is saturated with a rich chorus effect.
I think. James' vocals sound wonderful to me without effects, so the
processing on RB kind of turned me off. I would've rather listened to
James sing straight through an SM58, because he is in command of all the
little things that make a voice sound good. He doesn't need electronic FX to
cover up any shortcomings with his voice. And he's a nice guy, too:)
YT>you know, i used to think it was chester thompson the genesis drummer to, wh
YT>switched to keyboards, but it turns out it's not. the OTHER chester thompson
YT>plays keyboards for tower of power. he's a fonky-ass mother too. if you need
YT>some funk go check out "back to oakland" and dig it.
YT>peace.
YT>ytsegoon
Koba, are you talking about the Chester Thompson that couldn't play
"Montana" up to tempo on "You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Volume
2, Disc 2"? If so, "mad props" to you. (You'd think I was cool or
something, if you didn't know better;)
YT>From: Phillip <pkish@sprynet.com>
Hats off to this man. Anyone else seen Rush in New Orleans besides
Phillip and myself?
OK, this Ytsejammer is spreading his butter quite thin. I have a job
broadcasting basketball games live on the radio (no chance for DT, but I make a
comment whenever the score is 21-12, believe me:). I also accepted
the position of Music Director for the local community theater groups
spring musical. And I was the snare drum judge at the All-State Band
auditions last weekend. Busy-ness isn't necessarily a virtue....
And I loaned my CD copy of Awake to a friend of mine a week ago. She
won't give it back. Good thing I still have my cassette copy (minus
Scarred, but still...)
Mark Peters
big.swifty@twav.com
PS - The DT song to crank if you have a cold - "Just Let Me Sneeze"
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 02:34:23 -0500 (EST)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: "Ytse Fuckin' Jam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Chester
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9701230258.A9257-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: WildKoba@aol.com
> Subject: king's x and chester thompson
>
> to: d-man
> re: chester thompson
>
> you know, i used to think it was chester thompson the genesis drummer to, who
> switched to keyboards, but it turns out it's not. the OTHER chester thompson
> plays keyboards for tower of power. he's a fonky-ass mother too. if you need
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I didn't realize there were two. My bad. Thanks, Koba.
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 02:18:30 -0600 (CST)
From: Matthew Travis <tool@prairienet.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RE: Believer
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9701230212.A11283-0100000@firefly.prairienet.org>
H'llo,
I have a copy of "Dimensions" by Believer in my hands right now and they
were on R.E.X. with distribution through Roadracer/Roadrunner Records.
It's a very interesting album. My atheist-goth-s&m-industrial-music-loving
roommate was jamming to it until I told him to listen to the lyrics.
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 19:36:44 +1000
From: Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: See yis
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970123093644.006659f0@powerup.com.au>
Hi
Well, the time has come to pack my bags and move on to other things.
I thank you all for some, shall I say, 'interesting' topics of conversation,
most of which I did not contribute to (apart from the occasional sarcastic
comment which went largely ignored, but sometimes offended some humourless
jammer instead).
But most of all, thank you from the bottom of my heart for broadening my
horizons, music-wise. When I joined this list my favourite bands were Iron
Maiden, Queensryche and Dream Theater. Now they include Rush, Savatage,
Lemur Voice, Galactic Cowboys, King Crimson, Yes and Steve Vai (who I'm
seeing in February).
I've bought more cds from reading this list than I have in my entire life,
and I thank you all once again.
Just a comment about Eddy from Australia's 'Is Kirk Hammett a poofter?'
comment...
I actually thought it was a joke. I immediately thought back to that Monty
Python skit, the Bruces.
Bruce 1: Are you a poofter?
Bruce 2: *Are* you a poofter?
Michael: Uh, no, I'm not.
Bruce 1: Good. That's rule 1 - no poofters!
etc etc etc
Well, I thought he was kidding, and I'm not sure if he's replied to the
replies he's received... anyway, us Australians are much more reknowned for
our humour and tomfoolery, aren't we?
Well, ta ra! Might pop into #ytsejam now and again.
Parting is such sweet sorrow...
Goodbye...
Spiff
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:33:51 0
From: "Eddie J Cooper" <eddie@abacus.co.uk>
To: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>, <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Portnoy at NAMM
Message-ID: <9701230934.AA00851@sphinx>
On 22 Jan 97, KorgX3 wrote about "Re: Portnoy at NAMM":
> Yah, Mike plays Tama StarClassics now. Tis a good deal, cuz I like
> Tama better than Mapex, and I think that Mike always has, too. I'd
> take an endorsement from anyone who offered, though (an I don't even
> play drums!)
Any idea why Mike didn't like Mapex so much? I've just bought a new
kit & Mapex was on my list of possibles since Mike brought them to my
attention...
Laterz
Eddie };-)~
- "Hardware, n.:
The parts of a computer system that can be kicked."
- "Boy, life takes a long time to live..."
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 05:34:16 -0500 (EST)
From: "Beavis (Wes Foll)" <wfoll@america.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Dorks from Alabama and Georgia!
Message-ID: <199701231034.FAA26185@web1.america.net>
>From: Big.Swifty@twav.com
>same thing) in the parking lot at BH with Alabama plates. Talk about
>idiots - what kind of jackoff would drive that far just to see a
>concert? Some DT fans just don't have a life, huh?
Yeah! What a bunch of dorks who would drive all that way! Anyone that
rode/drove with this guy should be shot on sight! Did the Alabama plates
happen to have the CROMAGS on it?? hahaha! What dorks...8) But ya know, I'd
do it again if they had another show two weeks from now...bwahahahhahahah!!!
>And the DT song that would have been perfect on the way out of the BH
>parking lot - "Just Let Me Leave"
Or, "Just Let Me Leave John the Fucking Idiot Who Rode Back With Us In New
Jersey."
That's the song I really wanted to hear.
Beavis (Wes Foll) http://www.america.net/~wfoll/beavis.htm
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 03:56:18 -0800
From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com
Subject: The Jon Finn Group (little DTC)
Message-ID: <199701231156.DAA00141@ms.kallback.com>
A big hearty thanks to whoever recommended this disc.
It's very cool and if you ask me he sounds like a cross between J Sat. and
Danny
Gatton (R.I.P.). But that's my humble, uneducated, non-guitar playing
opinion.
DTC:
DREAM THEATRE ROCKS!!! Ack Thpft!! - Bill the Cat
Trevor W. Hoit ¸
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The Gathering-Always $9 I
Lethal-Maza $6 I
Tonto's Expanding Head Band $6 I
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 22:39:14 -0800
From: Eddy M <edrock@connexus.apana.org.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: NDTC - Magellan/Kaiser
Message-ID: <32E85912.B60@connexus.apana.org.au>
Bret Kaiser was the lead vocalist in Madam X prior to Sebastian Bach.
Franz Beckenbaur was the real Kaiser !!
Eddy M
Melbourne, Australia
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 08:07:48 -0500
From: Timothy Adams <adamst@wasc.egginc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Burner....
Message-ID: <s2e71c14.062@wasc.egginc.com>
Chris said:
"Are you thinking of dubbing cds, thus depriving artists of their hard
earned royalties, forcing them to go back to menial labor and give up their
arts as they are unable to support themselves my making music when
the records can be reproduced illegally? If that's the case, then yes. :)
CDs are just digital data, not unlike that Warcraft !! cd sitting on your desk.
But the cost of blank CDs is not much less than that off the actual
release (unless we're talking imports) and I'd gladly pay the extra $5 to
get the original case and liners and everything."
Actually, yes and no. I own some videos, (Lit) and a QR one which I
want to record some of the songs off of. I like some versions on the
videos better than some boots I own. I would NEVER do anything
illegal... I hope my Mits vcr can put out a good quality sound. Thanks for
the help...
-Tim
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:24:15 -0500
From: "Mike Patrick" <mepatrick@iquest.net>
To: "DT" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Zebra (no DTC)
Message-ID: <199701231340.FAA12089@pawn.ax.com>
>Subsequent albums were disappointing.
Whoa. Listen to the thrid one again. 'Who's Behind the Door' was a big
hit and really drove the first album, but song-for-song, I think the third
is better. And Randy Jackson's vocals on the third are not as
forced/falsetto as the first. I have NEVER found the second on cd - was
this one called 'Just Playing Games'?
I remember a few years ago that there was a Randy Jackson solo album called
'China Rain', (or that was the name of the band he formed) advertised in
Guitar World, but I NEVER saw it in the stores.
Unrelated question: Who plays the guitar solo in Testament's 'Return to
Serenity'? James Murphy was in Testament after Skolnick, right? I know
this was right around the time of Skolnick's departure, so is it him or
Murphy? This one falls into the category, 'My favorite solos on albums I
have no intention of ever owning'. Another is Zakk Wylde's on 'No More
Tears'.
Mike Patrick
InfoTech Consulting, Inc.
mepatrick@iquest.net
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:46:40 -0800
From: Andrew Forcier <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Guitar, Victor...
Message-ID: <199701231449.AA05135@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hiya!
First off, thanks to all for the help on the fret situation.
Silly me, I said Warlock when I meant Warmoth. One sells guitars, the
other sells parts. Doh! I paid very little for the guitar I got ($375)
because the artwork has a degree of cheesiness to it (black laqcuer with
red glitter mixed in), but I love it to death. It's so damn playable! I
just want to make sure I take good care of it. After playing guitar for
eight years you'd think I know how...
Next question: Does anyone know if the tone on Satch songs Day at
the Beach and Baroque are from his FRED humbucker? I know, I know: how
specific can I get? But I'm in the market for new pickups and Joe's tone
is amazing. I've also heard the Screamin' Demon is an excellent pickup.
Any recommendations? I play a lot of clean and chorused clean, but when I
go for distortion, I like the sound that Joe gets, or Marty Friedman. Not
that I'm Joe or Marty...
To Philip, who just got Victor: what tracks stood out to you on
the first listen? I'm curious because with an album so diverse as this,
things really stand out. For me it was Strip and Go Naked and The Big
Dance.
And to all those Savatage loving Jammers out there: I love you,
man. Without you, I would not have found Dead Winter Dead, an album
steadily climbing my charts of best album EVER!!!!! As for TSO, I wish
they had saved some of the instrumental tracks for later in the album,
the last half is very *vocals heavy*. Not that that's a bad thing; the
album still rules.
Three days till SB XXX (BACK THE PACK!). Eight days till Star
Wars. Eighteen days till Nuno. Forty days till Queensryche. And who knows
how goddamn long till Dream Theater...
Andrew
_____________________
When the music stops,
There's only the sound of the rain...
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:50:20 -0800
From: Andrew Forcier <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Correction...
Message-ID: <199701231453.AA05394@gateway2.prudential.com>
Oops!
Ahem... Three days till Super Bowl XXXI (BACK THE PACK!). I'm
such a dumbass.
Andrew
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:13:12 GMT
From: tbaddley@airmail.net (Tom Baddley)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: X Bands / King's X
Message-ID: <32e78b73.1744743@mail.airmail.net>
>speaking of all the x bands, anyone know what's the deal with the daddy of
>them all, king's x? last i heard was that atlantic had dropped them off their
>label. did they sign with a new one? they recording anything? any info would
>be appreciated.
King's X were dropped by Atlantic during the middle of their Ear Candy
tour last year around September. They are still very much together,
and have recorded several new songs for their seventh album. They are
distributing them around in hopes of finding a record company that
will treat them right. Using RealAudio, you can hear very short
segments of two of their new songs at the Official King's X Web Page,
run by the band. The address is http://www.compassnet.com/grump/
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:24:05 -0600
From: rwarren@memphisonline.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Comments on DT's Fans
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970123093839.006c3420@memphisonline.com>
I know that the majority of this post shouldn't be on the jam but hey,
there has been alot of this lately.
>same thing) in the parking lot at BH with Alabama plates. Talk about
>idiots - what kind of jackoff would drive that far just to see a
>concert? Some DT fans just don't have a life, huh?
>
>Mark Peters
>big.swifty@twav.com
Mr. Peters. A lot of people outside of the internet community would
consider you an "idoit" or a "jackoff" because you subscribe to and read an
internet mailing list. I believe a fan making the trip from Alabama to New
Jersey to see the Fix for 96 show at Birch Hill is great. Of course I am
biased. I flew from Memphis, TN to Philadelphia and then drove 60+ miles
to Old Bridge to see DT. I do not consider myself an "idiot" or "jackoff".
You know what... If they were playing this weekend I would do it again.
I have been a fan for 3 years and have never had the opportunity see them
live. I considered it sort of a vacation. I am sure you were expressing
your opinion however you step over the line when you call other people
derogatory names based on how they spend their time. A more appropriate
statement would have been "I would not drive that far to see a concert".
> It seems that some place DT on way too high a pedestal..just an
>opinion. Its not like I'm saying LaBrie completely sucks man!! Because
The jam is a great source of information on DT and many other progressive
bands. My CD collection has increased with quality CDs (Lemur Voice,
Shadow Gallery, Enchant, Fates Warning) since joining this list. But
remember this. The Ytsejam mailing list is a mailing list of DT fans. I
am sure there are plenty of "better" musicians in the world. I say
"better" for lack of another word. I am not sure what "better" means when
comparing music or muscianship. I try not to compare music or musicians.
I may form an opinion as to whether I like something or not but I do not
say one band is better than another because I happen to like them.
Technically proficiency aside I believe there was a chemistry between the
members of Dream Theater (Kevin Moore era) that does not exist in many
bands. I love listening to progressive music and shredding guitarists as
much as the next guy but DT's music moves me. Listening to songs like
ACOS, LtL, etc. gives me chills. From what I have heard of the new songs
(the 5 they played at BH) I believe Derek will fit right in and the music
from the new CD will move me just as much. IMO it is out of line to knock
a DT fan for putting them on a pedastal... especially on a fan mailing list
dedicated to DT.
Sorry for taking up space on the jam but these two comments hit me harder
then most. I can usually overlook these things.
Anxiously awaiting my DTIFC package!!!!!
Richard Warren
rwarren@memphisonline.com
"Cherish your life while your still around." - Dream Theater
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