YTSEJAM Digest 2216
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Portnoy at NAMM
by "Eddie J Cooper" <eddie@abacus.co.uk>
2) Re: Guitar accessories: help!
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
3) Riot
by dseeger@juno.com (Deborah J. Seeger)
4) Short NDC: Vai
by larnil-4@student.luth.se (Lars Nilsson)
5) Minimal DTC
by Matthew P Robbins <robbins@aero.und.edu>
6)
by psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
7) Becker
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
8) Magna Carta's web site
by Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2214
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
10) Re: Minimal DTC
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
11) Re: Riot!!!
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
12) Hark! A lowly land lubber ye be!
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
13) Re: Portnoy at NAMM
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
14) Re: Portnoy at NAMM
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
15) Jan Hammer, ELP cit., Andre Matos vox, Bahr update
by Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com>
16) Re: stuph
by Mika Numminen <aarre.n@swipnet.se>
17) Hammer/Becker/Bafu (what a combo)
by Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:40:25 0
From: "Eddie J Cooper" <eddie@abacus.co.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Portnoy at NAMM
Message-ID: <9701221741.AA24753@sphinx>
On 22 Jan 97, Mike wrote about "Portnoy at NAMM":
> I got to talk to Mike at NAMM on Friday. I'm sure this isn't news
> to some of you, but in case you didn't know, they are waiting for
> the label to put out the next album. They are more than finished
> with their part.
Errrmm... I thought they hadn't even found a producer yet...
> Mike said they have enough material recorded to
> put out three cds. It doesn't look like there will be a double disc
> because he is the only one in the band that actually wants to do
> it.
..dunno about that bit...
> He was there signing autographs (for Tama) along with John
> Myung for Yamaha and Derek was there too but I didn't know of him
> doing any autograph sessions.
..now this really confuses me & makes me feel that this post is not
quite truthful (my apologies if I am wrong tho') cos I understood
that Portnoy has been a Mapex player for some time...
So my apologies Mike if your email is all true, but I think my
scepticism is well founded... Can anyone else verify or deny any of
this?
Laterz
Eddie };-)~
- "Hardware, n.:
The parts of a computer system that can be kicked."
- "Boy, life takes a long time to live..."
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:59:34 -0700
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Guitar accessories: help!
Message-ID: <199701221759.KAA83694@kitts.u.arizona.edu>
At 09:19 AM 1/22/97 -0800, you wrote:
>I remember seeing Warlock ads in old guitar
>mags, are they still around?
Yeah, a few months ago I bought a new '96 Warlock Platinum series.
Kicks butt too.
Later,
Peace be with you and God bless.
~Vince
(http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl)
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:03:08 EST
From: dseeger@juno.com (Deborah J. Seeger)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Riot
Message-ID: <19970123.000332.8935.0.DSeeger@juno.com>
I saw Riot mentioned in a recent Jam. I thought I was the only person
who listened to them! Anyone know what they've been up to since The
Privilage of Power?
Debbie Seeger
DSeeger@juno.com
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 19:17:46 +0100 (MET)
From: larnil-4@student.luth.se (Lars Nilsson)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Short NDC: Vai
Message-ID: <v01530501af0c18b7db9e@[130.240.37.213]>
C. Alfaro wrote:
>anyone recomend other cd's of him... (Vai)
Yup! I've said it before and I will say it again: Flexable is the best
record mr. Steve Vai has done so far. (Or at least if you like Zappa
stuff.)
Bye
- Larsan
>it is not the earth that the meek will inherit...
> ...but the dirt.
hm...
"The strong inherit the earth. The meek inherit shit."
- Gene Simmons
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:23:29 -0600 (CST)
From: Matthew P Robbins <robbins@aero.und.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Minimal DTC
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.90.970122121748.23332A-100000@heart.cas.und.nodak.edu>
Just listening to my new copy of I Mother Earth - Scenery & Fish
and reading the thanks and credits sections in the CD booklet. They
thank several bands including DT. However, they misspelled it (ie:
reversed the R and E in theater - Dream Theatre). I wonder if this was
intentional as some sort of joke of just a typo? Anybody know? BTW, the
IME CD is excellent, IMO. Haven't had a chance to check out the enhanced
CD-ROM portion yet, but looking forward to it.
~Matt
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:45:41 -0500
From: psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <199701221829.NAA15612@uhura.ici.net>
>I noticed a few posts lately about christian bands and the good
>music they often make regardless of the music's message. I would like to
>LOUDLY agree and to say that anyone out there who is passing over certian
>bands based soley on their christian label is being foolish.
A big agree here...
Back before I listened to any prog, I had reached a "saturation point" with
heavy metal in general. I felt like there was nothing else worth buying that
I didn't already have. The I started picking up a few christian rock albums
(Barren Cross, X-Sinner, Deliverance). It was like a whole new "wing" of
music had opened up for me. Suddenly, there was all this new material to
get, it was great. The same thing happened when I got on this list, only
with prog bands.
There is definitely some great non-secular music out there, and it's worth
looking for.
-----
_____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________________
E-mail: psull@ici.net
IRC: DDictator
WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html
NP: Dream Theater - "When Dream And Day Unite"
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:33:43 -0600
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Becker
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970122183343.0071732c@enteract.com>
Anyone that's written a letter to the jam about Jason Becker that still has
a copy of it in their mail program--can I ask you to mail it directly to me
as well? I am putting together a letter on behalf of the jam, with all the
Becker related posts I can find. I thought that Jason and his management
would appreciate it. Just do me the favor and look through your outbox and
wherever you store mail, or if you know what jam it came out in, just cut
and paste it from there, and mail it to someone@prognosis.com.
Thanks a bunch.
Chris W. Ptacek Musician and Listener
A.K.A Madsman, on IRC
"Can we search for inspiration -- those ideas that just come
from 'nowhere'? They don't surface when you're tHiNKinG.
They just come. What we CAN do is make fertile the ground
on which idea seeds fall."
- Michael Hedges
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:36:39 -0600
From: Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Cc: "'wfoll@america.net'" <wfoll@america.net>
Subject: Magna Carta's web site
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=GE%l=AMERIDATA/ADNC/0010FA5F@msb01ncadctmsge.ameridata.com>
I searched and searched, but nothing brought up Magna Carta's web site.
Anyone have it? Okay, thanks. heh.
http://www.zaks.com/magnacarta/
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:50:46 -0600
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2214
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970122185046.0075c678@enteract.com>
>From: Quazel Schmirt <jmlentch@mailbox.syr.edu>
>Subject: James' autograph...
>I am just curious as to how James' autograph pertains in any way to his
>singing ability. I am a huge fan of his talent, being a singer myself and
>I fail to make the connection here.
Did you miss the joke?
>how many people rave about this
>album because they know of Jason's medical situation. <snip> And before
>you all start accusing me of being a heartless bastard (which is possibly true)
>let me say that a close friend of mine died last year after suffering from ALS
>for nearly 20 years.
You're not heartless.... there might have been a better way to phrase
that.... but I know what you mean. Personally, while I'm impressed to hell
with anyone that can write an album worth of music when they are unable to
move, I don't think this is the case for me. That in and of itself is a
valid reason for me to buy the album... coupled with the fact that Jason has
been my favorite musician for almost 10 years now. If someone wants to buy
the album as a sign of sympathy, that's fine.... but I doubt if anyone is
going to write a rave review out of sympathy if they dislike the album.
Music as complex and multifaceted as that on Perspectives requires a few
listens to absorb... but I don't know... the opening track catches most
people INSTANTLY. You saw firsthand what ALS does to people. You can
probably understand just how hard it would be to write an album in that
state. Your friend was lucky to live as long as he did--they say the
average survival rate is between 5-7 years. That is truly the worst form of
punishment I could come up with.
>Progmetal? Racer X? Racer X Progmetal? Since when does an album of
>sixteenth notes/beats on all instruments (including the vocals) at 380
>beats per minute equal progressive metal?
Racer X uses highly technical instrumentation, odd time signatures, and long
instrumental passages. Plus it's quite obvious that there's SOME Racer X
influence (or perhaps just Paul Gilbert influence) in our beloved Petrucci.
Listen to Skit Scat Wah (or watch the opening of the first Gilbert
instructional video)and then listen to the end of Erotomania... Those licks
are pretty damn similar... I speak from experience of playing them AND
listening to them. Same technique, same style, same theme. Both (all three
I guess) rule. :)
Chris W. Ptacek Musician and Listener
A.K.A Madsman, on IRC
"Can we search for inspiration -- those ideas that just come
from 'nowhere'? They don't surface when you're tHiNKinG.
They just come. What we CAN do is make fertile the ground
on which idea seeds fall."
- Michael Hedges
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:51:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: Matthew P Robbins <robbins@aero.und.edu>
Subject: Re: Minimal DTC
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.970122134953.10068D-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> Just listening to my new copy of I Mother Earth - Scenery & Fish
> and reading the thanks and credits sections in the CD booklet. They
> thank several bands including DT. However, they misspelled it (ie:
> reversed the R and E in theater - Dream Theatre). I wonder if this was
> intentional as some sort of joke of just a typo? Anybody know? BTW, the
> IME CD is excellent, IMO. Haven't had a chance to check out the enhanced
> CD-ROM portion yet, but looking forward to it.
the cd-rom's pretty cool. it's got a nice bio on the guys, and
part of the video "one more astronaut."
actually, i saw the video for "another sunday" last thursday. i
actually paid for it (yes, i called the box. i was at my girlfriend's
house and she said she'd pay for it) and the video kicks much ass.
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"..666 is no longer alone.
he's getting out the marrow in your backbone,
and the seven trumpets blowing sweet rock and roll
gonna blow right down inside your soul.
pythagoras with the looking-glass, reflect the full moon.
in blood, he's writing the lyrics to a brand new tune.."
* * * * * * * * * *
mike ostrich e-mail: syrinx@dreamt.org / syrinx@mindspring.com
world wide web: http://www.mindspring.com/~syrinx
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:53:14 -0600
From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Riot!!!
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970122185314.006e65ac@mail.inlink.com>
At 10:08 AM 1/22/97 -0800, you wrote:
>I saw Riot mentioned in a recent Jam. I thought I was the only person
>who listened to them! Anyone know what they've been up to since The
>Privilage of Power?
>
whoa!!!!!!! where was this, i must have missed it! i've heard these boys,
i was just listening to them a few nights ago over at my friends house, they
indeed rock. hell, he considers them his favorite band! some of you who
know me on irc may have met him once or twice using his nick, ironically
"riot" hahaha. damn, the things that wind up on the jams these days.
~Rip
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:58:41 -0600
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hark! A lowly land lubber ye be!
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970122185841.007637d4@enteract.com>
> A quick question about CD burners........my friend is purchasing one and
>I was wondering if you can dub audio tracks as well as digital data??
>Any help would be appreciated.
Are you thinking of dubbing cds, thus depriving artists of their hard earned
royalties, forcing them to go back to menial labor and give up their arts as
they are unable to support themselves my making music when the records can
be reproduced illegally? If that's the case, then yes. :) CDs are just
digital data, not unlike that Warcraft !! cd sitting on your desk. But the
cost of blank CDs is not much less than that off the actual release (unless
we're talking imports) and I'd gladly pay the extra $5 to get the original
case and liners and everything.
>christian labels only (Tourniquet, Masquerade, Resurrection Band, Believer,
>Precious Death, The 77's, Tamplin, Bride, ect to infinity...).
Masquerade is on Metal Blade and I think Believer may be as well. Just
thought I'd point that out.
Chris W. Ptacek Musician and Listener
A.K.A Madsman, on IRC
"Can we search for inspiration -- those ideas that just come
from 'nowhere'? They don't surface when you're tHiNKinG.
They just come. What we CAN do is make fertile the ground
on which idea seeds fall."
- Michael Hedges
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:49:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: Eddie J Cooper <eddie@abacus.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Portnoy at NAMM
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.970122134755.10068C-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> > I got to talk to Mike at NAMM on Friday. I'm sure this isn't news
> > to some of you, but in case you didn't know, they are waiting for
> > the label to put out the next album. They are more than finished
> > with their part.
>
> Errrmm... I thought they hadn't even found a producer yet...
yep. paul northfield, if i'm not mistaken.
> > Mike said they have enough material recorded to
> > put out three cds. It doesn't look like there will be a double disc
> > because he is the only one in the band that actually wants to do
> > it.
>
> ..dunno about that bit...
i do. when i spoke to portnoy about it (eons ago...at that dman
ethyl mertz show) we all came to the conclusion that it would be a
disaster if they put out a double disc.
> > He was there signing autographs (for Tama) along with John
> > Myung for Yamaha and Derek was there too but I didn't know of him
> > doing any autograph sessions.
>
> ..now this really confuses me & makes me feel that this post is not
> quite truthful (my apologies if I am wrong tho') cos I understood
> that Portnoy has been a Mapex player for some time...
he switched back to tama last year.
the all mighty syrinx.
erotomania - the web sight: coming soon.
http://www.mindspring.com/~syrinx
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:23:47 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Portnoy at NAMM
Message-ID: <32E67753.537A@caribe.net>
Eddie J Cooper wrote:
>
>
> > He was there signing autographs (for Tama) along with John
> > Myung for Yamaha and Derek was there too but I didn't know of him
> > doing any autograph sessions.
>
> ..now this really confuses me & makes me feel that this post is not
> quite truthful (my apologies if I am wrong tho') cos I understood
> that Portnoy has been a Mapex player for some time...
>
>
Hes changed to Tama again...
in the FIX96 shows he was using a Tama set.. Myung is using Yamaha
fretless now..
Seize the day, I heard him say :
"Life will not always be this way,
Look around...hear the sounds...
Cherish your life,while you're still around... "
<Dream Theater: A Change Of Seasons>
WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy
mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net
mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:09:16 -0600
From: Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Jan Hammer, ELP cit., Andre Matos vox, Bahr update
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=GE%l=AMERIDATA/ADNC/0010FCFE@msb01ncadctmsge.ameridata.com>
I was under the impression that 'jan hammer' was the name of a band, and
that jordan rudess was the keyboard (ski?!) player... if this is not so,
can someone straighten me out?
Jan Hammer has been on keys for a long time. The earliest that I have is
Mahavishnu Orchestra's *Birds of Fire*, circa early 1970's (MO is/was an
early vehicle for guitar god, John McLaughlin; percussion god Billy Cobham
was also part of MO at this time). On this album there are some tremendous
guitar/keys/violin (Jerry Goodman) shredding duos/trios; MO later also
featured fusion violin god Jean-Luc Ponty.
Jan Hammer is most famous, unfortunately, as the composer of the theme for
TV's *Miami Vice*. Jan Hammer is also featured on some of the earlier Jeff
Beck solo albums.
"...And he laughs until he cries, then he dies, then he dies..." ---
Lake/Sinfield
>>>it's from ELP's Brain Salad Surgery, Karn Evil 9, Pt.1
On Angra's Andre Matos vox: IMHO, AM sounds more like Fates Warning's Ray
Adler with a larger vocal range, than DT's JL
BTW, what the latest on the Mike B/Majesty CD's?
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 20:30:55 +0100 (MET)
From: Mika Numminen <aarre.n@swipnet.se>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: stuph
Message-ID: <199701221930.UAA02246@mailbox.swip.net>
At 19.29 1997-01-21 -0800, D-man wrote:
>> To Mika Numminen and his Progquiz: Why couldn't any of the logic questions
>> on the LSAT be that fun? :)
>
>No kidding! The GRE would have actually been tolerable if there were
>questions like that! :)
>
LOL! Look for that queestions in the next GRE, I'm sure we got a jammer
somewhere to sneak it in! :)
%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&
& Mika Numminen & aarre.n@swipnet.se %
% aka Viking % te95mne@student.hgs.se &
&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%
% http://www.hgs.se/~te95mne &
& http://home3.swipnet.se/~w-330353 (Coming soon!) %
%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 16:16:20 -0500
From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hammer/Becker/Bafu (what a combo)
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970122211620.2ce7cbcc@pop.negia.net>
Chris sez:
>I was under the impression that 'jan hammer' was the name of a band,
>and that jordan rudess was the keyboard (ski?!) player...
>if this is not so, can someone straighten me out?
Jan Hammer, composer and keyboardist, has been around a lot longer than most
people would think. He was releasing solo stuff as far back as '68 ("Make
Love"). Hammer wrote the "Miami Vice" theme that was so popular in the
show's heyday. I believe he also wrote the "Axel F" theme popularized by
Harold Faltermeyer in "Beverly Hills Cop."
Hammer has dozens of solo albums out there, most unfortunately out of print
now. "Escape From Television" includes songs from Miami Vice, while "Beyond
The Mind's Eye" is a jazz/fusion oriented album like much of Hammer's stuff;
it's also available as a video with different tracks. A very approachable
album is 1994's "Drive," with Jeff Beck on guitar (!) and Michael Brecker on
sax.
Other solo stuff he has: "Chancer," "Snapshots," "Here to Stay," "Too Much
to Lose," "Black Sheep," "Melodies," "Untold Passions." If you can find any
of these, check them out; Hammer's a great keyboardist.
Neil says:
>following all this talk about Jason Becker's album "perspectives", I decided
>to check it out at my local CD store. I didn't buy it. There is certainly
>some interesting stuff on it, but nothing that really knocked me out. I then
>wondered (WARNING: heretical question coming) how many people rave about
>this album because they know of Jason's medical situation.
*boggle* Oh well. As one of the people who's been raving about the album: I
pondered that question for all of three milliseconds (it may have been a bit
longer) before answering it with a resounding "Nah."
I don't care how the music was written (most of it by computer due to
Jason's condition). I'm saddened that Jason can't play all of it himself the
way he no doubt wanted to. But I think it's beautiful regardless, and that's
why I love the album. If you didn't feel it -- well, that's your opinion. :)
Bafu then graced us with his views on zamboni-patrol (and other things):
>Yeah, I know what you mean. Like when I see someone in a car ahead of me
>STOP unnecessarily at an intersection because some PEDESTRIAN has decided
>to casually yet DEFIANTLYcross the street in a crosswalk AGAINST the
>"don't walk" signal...then all of a sudden instead of being polite the
>driver just hits the gas and PLOWS 'em down...
I don't know whether you live in a "college town" or not, Bafu, but lemme
tell you that here in a 28,000+ -student college town like this one (Athens,
GA) it's just about unendurable. Am I the only one who thinks that when you
cross a street and the light changes, you should HURRY?
Andrew responds with his own views on driving:
>Neat trick: when waiting for idiots to cross against the light,
>which is of course green for you, drop your car into neutral and rev the
>engine (or just hold in the clutch, for us manual shifters). I've been
>pleasantly surprised by the number of people who pick up the pace fearing
>their demise. Or maybe it was Dave Mustaine blasting from my car that
>scared them...
I've tried this, but revving of engines loses a bit of its threatening punch
when it's coming from a 4-cylinder Ford Escort. :) :) I have at times laid
on the horn, though.
> A dream of mine is to buy a car completely made of steel, or
>build it myself. I would then humble all of the fiberglass conveyance
>driving Jersey morons by crippling their fragile vehicles. Ahhhh... the
>sound of crunching plastic as that Lexus driving bastard gets his due for
>not using a directional when changing lanes...
YES! YES! YES! Build me one too! HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Er....what I meant to say is that it's a cool idea. I've actually toyed with
the idea of fixing a ram-plate (a la "Mad Max") onto the front of my
parents' junk-hauler, a '76 Ford LTD station wagon. (We call it "Tank.")
Bafu in full force again:
>> I was *not* the one that shaved Mike Portnoy's head.
>
>Oh, of course not. It was the Jagermeister. Yeah. I suppose it is also
>true that people don't kill people, GUNS kill people...
Neither one is true. Guns don't kill people. People don't kill people.
Bullets kill people. Just make bullets impossible to get and you'd see a lot
less deaths from shootings. (The rate of clubbings would probably rise
pretty quickly though). The NRA couldn't even form the National Bullet
Association; the letters are already taken.
>Nevermind...
Oh, good grief, I thought we were free of the Nirvana discussions...Where's
Skadz?!?!?!
>"Waruku Omouna."
> --Guy, Street Fighter Alpha
"Hakuna Matata."
-- Timon and Pumbaa, The Lion King
Cheers,
Phil
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Phil Carter -- carter@negia.net * Pittsburgh Penguins -- Stanley Cup in 1997! *
"To do is to be." -- Plato
"To be is to do." -- Aristotle
"Doo bee doo bee doo..." -- The Bud Ice Penguin
Guitarists: * Joe Satriani * Jason Becker * Steve Morse * Yngwie Malmsteen *
* John Petrucci * Steve Vai * Eric Johnson * Gary Hoey * Richie Kotzen *
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