YTSEJAM Digest 2220
Today's Topics:
1) king's x semi-secret shows 1/24/97 in houston
by Brian Cox <lerxst@metronet.com>
2) Masquerade & Holy Solider
by Matthew P Robbins <robbins@aero.und.edu>
3) sankyuverimeny
by <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
4) re: my previous post about Portnoy
by m_washke@acad.lvc.edu (Michael Washkevich)
5) Damn The Machine
by Jan van Huizen <aurora@wirehub.nl>
6) Keyboard Videos
by Matthew James Guillory <matt_guillory@fractal.com>
7) Misunderstanding Miasma
by Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@BGNet.bgsu.edu>
8) *** HELSTAR ***
by "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
9) misunderstood?
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
10) tomorrow
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
11) Froth
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
12) "Dream Theatre" sic
by "Kevin Donnelly" <KDonnelly@vines.ColoState.EDU>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2219
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
14) moo
by 99ABEL@alma.edu
15) Cd Burners and "Serenity"
by CK78729@ltu.edu
16) Re: moo
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
17) Re: Mastermind
by "Dave Neff" <dneff@maaco.com>
18) NDTC: Lemur Voice & QR Promised Land CD-ROM
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
19) band suggestions...
by Eric Gillingham <egilling@stdntpop.lmu.edu>
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:28:39 -0600 (CST)
From: Brian Cox <lerxst@metronet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: king's x semi-secret shows 1/24/97 in houston
Message-ID: <199701231628.AA19908@metronet.com>
i dont know much about this, but here is everything i know:
three bands are playing at area51 in houston tomorrow night, 1/24/97.
two of these bands have two of the guys from king's x in them. i dont
know if one is in one band, one in another, or what. i dont know which
two guys, either. i dont know if these are side projects, or their
new bands. i have no idea if king's x is stil together.
just wanted to warn everyone within driving distance. i will be there
and report back on what is going on.
i dont even know the names of the bands. i heard a rumor that king's
x was playing that night, and i got my ex-girlfriend down in houston
to do some detective work for me.
<><><><><><><><><> Brian V. Cox (lerxst@metronet.com) <><><><><><><><><>
<>Rush|Dream Theater|Queensryche|King's X|Echolyn|King Crimson|Voivod><>
"You have to systematically create confusion - it sets creativity free.
Everything that is contradictory creates life."
-Salvador Dali, 1980
<><><><><><><><><>DAT Taper/Trader - Email me for list<><><><><><><><><>
<><><><><><><><><>< http://www.metronet.com/~lerxst/ ><><><><><><><><><>
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:31:27 -0600 (CST)
From: Matthew P Robbins <robbins@aero.und.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Masquerade & Holy Solider
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.90.970123101622.27600A-100000@heart.cas.und.nodak.edu>
Phillip commented about Masquerade and asked about Holy Soldier. While
Masquerade IS on Metal Blade (my previous mistake -oops!) and don't
specifically market themselves as Christian, their lyrics on Surface of
Pain ARE clearly christian. If you know anything about christianity, read
the lyrics and it will be obvious to you. They are even carried by most
of the on-line christian CD stores.
Holy Soldier did release a new album about a year and a half ago. Its
titled "Promise Man." IMO, their new singer is much better than their
last. His voice is more mature and refined and he doesn't feel the need
to constantly scream. PM contains a lot of harmonies too, which can't
hurt to cover any shortcomings the lead vocalist may have. The music
changes mood song to song and covers everything from pretty heavy metal
to moody alternative, to very bluesy.
Thanks to the guy who caught my mistake about Masquerade's label (they
are indeed on Metal Blade). However, Believer is not. They are (were) on
R.E.X. - a christian lable specializing is heavy metal & hard core
christian (although rumor has it they just folded).
~Matt
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 19:21:22 +0200
From: <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: sankyuverimeny
Message-ID: <199701231721.TAA13574@pepe.online.ee>
> Basically, don't be shocked if on the thank-you list for DT'd next
> album you see "I Mothre Earth" :)
Aye Muther Urth?
R.
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:25:06 -0800 (PST)
From: m_washke@acad.lvc.edu (Michael Washkevich)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: my previous post about Portnoy
Message-ID: <199701231725.JAA14555@pawn.ax.com>
I was unaware of any confusion about who Portnoy was being endorsed by. It
is Tama. Pick up a Modern Drummer magazine. That should clear up your
confusion. The fact that I watched him play a Tama kit at the Birch Hill
made it pretty clear to me. As far as merit in what I said about the label
giving them the runaround on the release of the new disc- What do you mean
"merit"? I'm quoting Mike Portnoy. If its not true than I've been lied to.
I'm only telling you what he told me.
Mike Washkevich
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 18:40:16 +0100
From: Jan van Huizen <aurora@wirehub.nl>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Damn The Machine
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970123174016.006893e0@mail.wirehub.nl>
>A question for those who know... is Damn the Machine still around? Did they
>only release one CD? I got it, and it just rocked...
It rocked ? Man, this is one of the best new bands of the 90's. Although
they changed their name to Mumbo's Brain, they are still around. Doing some
performances too I believe. I dunno if they have demo recorded or are in the
studio yet. Does anyone have more info on this great band ?
Btw, singer/guitarist Dave Clemmons has left the band. Seems they have a new
leadsinger, but I have no idea who it is.
Hope this helps you and other DTM/MB hungry fans for more info.
See ya,
Aurora
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:12:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Matthew James Guillory <matt_guillory@fractal.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Keyboard Videos
Message-ID: <v03007808af0cdf5afda5@[205.179.211.207]>
Hey guys,
This is an interesting list here. Somebody (Hector?) posted in digest 2218
that they were looking for a decent keyboard instructional video.
It is to my understanding that "T Lavitz" has a pretty good one out. For
those of you not familiar with him, he was the Keyboardist for the Dixie
Dregs for a while. He also has some solo releases. T. Lavitz is a great
player. He combines rock, jazz, blues, and country into his style which
creates an interesting blend. I hear that Chick Corea has a good one as
well (maybe 2?).
Anyway, I hope this helps.
Take care,
Matt
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 13:27:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@BGNet.bgsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Misunderstanding Miasma
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970122161237.22162A-100000@falcon.bgsu.edu>
>I would like to explain that thing in that sig file was taken from the
>"Deep RUSH Thoughts" homepage...I tthought it was damn funny, and I
>didn't think anyone on THIS list would be offended by it. But since it
>did, I won't use it anymore.
I wasn't offended by your sig., I just wanted to know why _you_ thought
Lush "sucks". I didn't know you're sig. was merely one in a series.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Now I know, and knowing is
half the battle... I'd wager that there are some Bush or Nirvana fans on
this list, maybe even Blind Melon, and while I may not take offense, maybe
they do.
>PS - Is it too early for a "Fix For 97" tour? =)
How about "Heaven In 97?" Or "Revvin' In 97"? "Where's Kevin In 97"? Or
my favorite, "John Myung Is The Next Tony Levin In 97"?
>No matter what their religious views, being a great musician is what is
>important for the music I listen to. Thoughts from other jammers?
I don't have any problem with Christian lyrics or messages, but I wouldn't
listen to an artist if their lyrics/content were blatantly Satanic. I
would find it difficult to "get into their music" knowing that their
values/message conflicted with mine.
>but anyway, before we went on, JR, the lead singer, gave a us a little
>talk which really impacted me and i think would be good to share with
>y'all. the gist of it is that music is a spiritual thing, not a
>competition...you have to let the music take over, let it flow through
>your body, let it control your movements and your actions.
This was one of the posts I've ever read on the 'Jam. Especially
considering all the unfocused posts about Kirk Hammett lately. As far
as music being the "one thing we have in common with God", I think
Bach (it might have been Beethoven) said it best: "Every note for the
grace of God".
>[About Jan Hammer]: And of course, Axel F...the Beverly Hills Cop theme.
Point of clarification: Axel F. was written and performed by Harold
Faltermeyer. Speaking of soundtrack music, if you haven't already, pick
up the re-released Star Wars soundtrack. The unreleased material is
a definite plus, and the limited edition packing is the icing on the cake.
Even though you can't be a kid again, January 31st will be the next best
thing.
See you in Mos Eisley,
G. Jack Thetgyi
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 13:34:05 -0500
From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: *** HELSTAR ***
Message-ID: <32E7AF1D.5F62@earthlink.net>
> While in the CD shop, I saw a bunch of stuff that shocked the snarg out
> of me, including:
> -not one but TWO DIFFERENT HELSTAR cds - I have heard a song or two
> from these guys. Any opinions?
Yes!! HELSTAR is sooooo amazingly good! I'm guessing you saw "A Distant
Thunder" and "Nosferatu", which are the only albums on Metal Blade and I
think they were recently re-released so whoever finds "Nosferatu" and
doesnt pick it up is missing the opportunity of a LIFETIME!!!! Those 2
albums are their best out of 5. First two albums "Burning Star",
"Remnants of War" are pretty good, but by no means reaches the level of
brilliance that is achieved on "Nosferatu"!!! Harmonized guitars,
swirling melodies, hyper-melodic riffing, haunting lyrics (most of it is
a concept album on Dracula!) and mesmerizing vocals...HELSTAR does NO
wrong on this album!!!!!
Its probably one of the few CD's that I won't let my friend borrow
because it took me ages to finally find (before they re-released it) and
it is timeless. "A Distant Thunder" is equally amazing and highly
suggested..same lineup for these two albums....partly because of the
addition of Andre Corbin (currently FATES WARNING future touring
guitarist in place of Aresti)..he was supposed to be on the new FW album
but I'm guessing Jim Matheos got word of his not-so-trustworthy
personality and wanted to try him out in a live situation before
dedicating him to the band.
**Do NOT get their latest "Multiples of Black"..it is horrible
(because half the band is gone and the production is horrible no thanks
to Dave Ellefson)
Lead singer James Rivera's new band CHAOTIC ORDER is pretty damn good
(I have their demo from the guitarists girlfriend) and will hopefully
get signed to Metal Blade soon! The next SENTINEL STEEL should have
Part II of the HELSTAR interview..I can't wait!!
Whoever knows of HELSTAR, PLEASE speak up..I can't believe this gem of a
band has gone virtually unnoticed for so long!!!! Too bad chances of a
reunion are very slim since their parting with Andre was on real bad
terms.
Long live "Nosferatu"....."You fools...you cannot destroy me..I am the
KING of my kind"
they also use samples from the Dracula movie (the one w/ Frank Langella
I believe) as intros to most of the songs...now I must go listen to it
because I am salivating at the thought of those harmonized leads
:-)))))))))
cheers,
Carlo (aka fates, aka YtseSatan)
--
_
__| |__
"When you know that your time is close at hand |__ __|
maybe then you'll begin to understand | |
Life down here is just a strange illusion." | |
|_|
--IRON MAIDEN (Hallowed Be Thy Name)
"Neo-classical, progressive, melodic metal"
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 13:52:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: misunderstood?
Message-ID: <199701231852.NAA00690@newman.cris.com>
Mr. Peters displayed a bit of bafu-esque humor:
>>same thing) in the parking lot at BH with Alabama plates. Talk about
>>idiots - what kind of jackoff would drive that far just to see a
>>concert? Some DT fans just don't have a life, huh?
Mr. Warren apparently missed it:
>Mr. Peters. A lot of people outside of the internet community would
>consider you an "idoit" or a "jackoff" because you subscribe to and read an
>internet mailing list....>snip<
At least +I+ thought it was humor. <shrug>
And by the way, today is Mr. Myung's birthday, ain't it? Happy Birthday, sir.
shhhhhhoooooooop.
-Rick Audet
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:02:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: tomorrow
Message-ID: <199701231902.OAA25436@cliff.cris.com>
Oops. Delay that B-day greeting till tomorrow. My mistake, it's the 24th.
-Rick
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 19:20:11 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Froth
Message-ID: <32E7B9EB.5DCF@mailstorm.dot.gov>
> Is Kirk Hammett a poofter ??
Is he from Wyoming?
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 97 12:25:02 MST
From: "Kevin Donnelly" <KDonnelly@vines.ColoState.EDU>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: "Dream Theatre" sic
Message-ID: <vines.0,16+Cgvtma@vines.ColoState.EDU>
Hi
I am out of lurk mode to make a comment on the observations concerning
the misspelling of Theater. This may be a no-brainer to everyone so I
apologize in advance if I am stating the obvious but no one else has said it
(flames to kdonnelly@vines.colostate.edu).
THEATER is the American English spelling of the word while THEATRE is the
commonwealth English spelling of the word (Commonwealth countries include
Britain, Canada, Australia, etc.). The meaning of the word is no different.
There are several other examples of such disparity between American English
and English (as a Brit living in the US I know about these because I am often
ridiculed for apparent misspellings!!) e.g. Color/colour, center/centre,
aluminum/aluminium.
Out of respect for the country of origin of the band (USA) we should always
use the American English spelling. Innocent mistakes will happen and I guess
it is a cultural thing.......and we all know about multiculturalism now don't we!!??!
My thanks to all those who post reviews and recommendations for other worthy
bands on the jam - my taste and CD collection are growing better every day.
Bye, Kevin D.
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 13:52:13 -0600 (CST)
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2219
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.970123111326.211B-100000@enteract.com>
> Unfortunately, on RB, his voice is saturated with a rich chorus effect.
> I think. James' vocals sound wonderful to me without effects, so the
> processing on RB kind of turned me off. I would've rather listened to
> James sing straight through an SM58, because he is in command of all the
> little things that make a voice sound good. He doesn't need electronic FX to
> cover up any shortcomings with his voice. And he's a nice guy, too:)
Well, I'm sure I hear Delay on some of James's stuff. I would also count
pretty highly on there being all kinds of compression and mild chorusing
on everythinghe sings. That's not a flaw... it's just how they make
vocals work on an album. Also, I'd be pretty damn scared if James sang
into an SM58 in the studio. The SM58 is a decent mic... but does NOT have
the dynamic range to pick up the subtlties that some of your better AKGs
and the likes have. In the studio, I'd bet the farm on them using
condenser mics for all the vocal recording.
> Actually, yes and no. I own some videos, (Lit) and a QR one which I
> want to record some of the songs off of. I like some versions on the
> videos better than some boots I own. I would NEVER do anything
> illegal... I hope my Mits vcr can put out a good quality sound. Thanks for
> the help...
Just a side note, because I (had I a cd burner) would do the same
thing.... just because it's dubbed from a video, doesn't make it legal.
:)
> Unrelated question: Who plays the guitar solo in Testament's 'Return to
> Serenity'? James Murphy was in Testament after Skolnick, right? I know
> this was right around the time of Skolnick's departure, so is it him or
> Murphy? This one falls into the category, 'My favorite solos on albums I
That solo is Skolnick. Skolnick was in Testament from it's inception
through "The Ritual". He was then replaced by Glenn Alvelais (sp?) who
was sacked in favor of Murphy. That's the story as I know it. There may
have been someone in the band after Glenn but before Murphy.
> Next question: Does anyone know if the tone on Satch songs Day at
> the Beach and Baroque are from his FRED humbucker? I know, I know: how
> specific can I get? But I'm in the market for new pickups and Joe's tone
> is amazing. I've also heard the Screamin' Demon is an excellent pickup.
> Any recommendations? I play a lot of clean and chorused clean, but when I
> go for distortion, I like the sound that Joe gets, or Marty Friedman. Not
> that I'm Joe or Marty...
> Mr. Peters. A lot of people outside of the internet community would
> consider you an "idoit" or a "jackoff" because you subscribe to and read an
> internet mailing list. I believe a fan making the trip from Alabama to New
/me bonks Mr. Warren over the head with the great hammer of wakefulness --
Dude, he was joking. I believe he was one of the long road trippers
himself.
And hey, that's fine if you don't like comparing musicians, but I have to
totally agree with Carlo. While DT is one of my absolute favorite bands,
there are LOTS of bands that now, after seeing them a few times, I'd
choose to see instead if both played on the same night. They're great,
but you need some variety. There are people I think are better musicians
than the members of DT. That's my opinion. I don't force it down your
throat (unless it's Jason Becker or Michael Romeo :) ) and you don't have
to accept it. It's just there as expression and food for thought.
Lastly, Waaaaay back around the Awake tour I remember people looking for
the off white DT hat with the black bill and the Majesty symbol on it.
I'm not sure I'm going to give mine up... but I'm curious. What would be
the interest in a DT hat signed by all the members of the band (I was
at the aftershow party and got some things signed). Let me know by
personal E Mail.
- Chris Ptacek
The Barrel Rider, and Spider Stinger - He who drowns his friends and
pulls them alive from the water - The Ring Finder - The Lucky Number
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:56:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: 99ABEL@alma.edu
To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
Subject: moo
Message-ID: <01IEK1I684QA9BW9K8@alma.edu>
What's a Cow Virtuoso?
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:07:13 -0500 (EST)
From: CK78729@ltu.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Cd Burners and "Serenity"
Message-ID: <01IEK1PHS10291VTY6@ltu.edu>
Alex Skolnick did play on "Return To Serenity." It was the last album
he did with Testament. Shame he was never able to get Exhibit A off the
ground.
One thing you sure warned about CD Burners is that the discs they make
have a habit of skipping in a lot of players. Especially car players.
Sometimes regular component CD players won't read them right.
-Christian Kremo
InnerSect@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 13:18:33 -0700
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: moo
Message-ID: <199701232018.NAA80768@nevis.u.arizona.edu>
At 11:59 AM 1/23/97 -0800, you wrote:
> What's a Cow Virtuoso?
>
Udderly awesome? Moo, moo, good? A really sick pervert ;p ? John Moo-ung?
----
Peace be with you and God bless.
~Vince
(http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl)
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:27:21 -0500
From: "Dave Neff" <dneff@maaco.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Mastermind
Message-ID: <199701232031.MAA17856@pawn.ax.com>
> From: Walter Semerenko <walter@orlinter.com>
> I don't think that the singing is bad. It doesn't take away from the music.
This is true. It certainly does not take away from the music. I don't think
it's bad either, just that ... well, I guess JLaB has me spoiled. :)
Thanks for pointing that out tho, I don't want to scare anyone away!
> From: Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
> and bombastic drums of Rich Berends.
Bombastic! Great word, and entirely accurate.
> Or you can get to his WWW site through my Unsigned Bands page.
If you haven't seen Mike's Unsigned Bands page, go now! It's great!
http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/munsign.html
Later!
- Dave Neff (dneff@maaco.com)
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:32:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: NDTC: Lemur Voice & QR Promised Land CD-ROM
Message-ID: <199701232032.PAA25068@barite.cs.brandeis.edu>
Just a few quick comments... I finally got around to buying Lemur
Voice CD ($15 at Newbury Comics) and I must say that it is very
good... I heard part of it in my car on the way down to the
Proividence Fix for 96 show (thanks to Jeremy) and decided to buy it
once I found it...
The music has some great parts, but I won't really comment too much,
especialyl since I have not listened to it all that many times... the
1st instruemtnal, Akasha Chronicles is increcdible... The music at
times reminds me alot of Fates Warning... and the singer at times
sounds alot like Sting, but thats just my opinion... Anyway, Marcel,
incredible CD... would definatly go to a concert if you guys are ever
on tour in the States...
Also, for the person who mentioned wanting to hear the new QR song
that is on the Promised Land CD-ROM, if you really want, simply browse
the CD and double click on the .mov file (I forget what it is called)
and this will bring up the QT player installed on your system and
allow you to see the video/hear the song without finding it through
the game...
--
+--------------------------------+-------------------------+
| You took away my hero, | Michael Burstin |
| Now take away my pain. | Brandeis University |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------+
| John Petrucci, Dream Theater | Lets go Pens |
+----------------------------------------------------------+
For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 13:11:26 -0800
From: Eric Gillingham <egilling@stdntpop.lmu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: band suggestions...
Message-ID: <21112657121936@stdntpop.lmu.edu>
what bands might you be able to suggest i listen to along the
lines of progressive metal such as that of dream theater...so far i own all
dream theater...at least i think i do....( i have when dream and day unite,
images and words, awake, and a change of seasons...is there anything i'm
missing there...?) some rush, love queensryche...but what other bands might
i be able to listen to along these lines? i do have savatage's edge of
thorns....but can you please recommend some of the best prog metal
albums...and how hard it might be to find them....thanks...
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