YTSEJAM digest 2690

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Thu Jul 03 1997 - 12:53:43 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 2690

    Today's Topics:

      1) RE: Marillion
     by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
      2) Trapped Lesbians, Stixxntrixx, Pancakes
     by "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
      3) Complete collections
     by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
      4)
     by psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
      5) Re: Royal Hunt
     by Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
      6) spam, spam, anti-abortion songs, spam, bafu, and spam
     by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
      7) schtuff
     by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
      8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2688
     by Polo Santos <ytse_jammer@mail.utexas.edu>
      9) BORED BEYOND BELIEF
     by Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
     10) MiB
     by nightcast@usa.net
     11) "you are being a dick" :-)
     by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
     12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2684
     by Thrak75@aol.com
     13) ProLife Rock Songs: Extreme
     by "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>

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    Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 05:33:41 -0700
    From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
    To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: RE: Marillion
    Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-970703123341Z-2520@ms.Kallback.com>

    >I'd say start with "Clutching at Straws", just because it's the album
    >that got me into Marillion.

    You also might want to listen to some of their newer stuff, which sounds
    quite different, not to mention has a different singer as well. I would
    try to hear The Best of Both Worlds which is
    a double cd that came out recently. It has one cd of M with the old
    singer (Fish) and one cd with the new singer (Steve Hogarth). Both cds
    take songs from 4 albums. There is another cd
    called Six of One, Half-Dozen of the Other which includes songs from
    both singers as well.
    I would then decide which, if any songs you like, then ask someone
    (me,Itchy, etc) what albums they are on and then get those. Also if you
    like the old Marillion, Fish has many solo albums, a sampling of which
    can be found on his recent Yin and Yang cds.
    BTW, both are touring the states this Summer, so just go check out a
    show.
    >
    >
    >

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    Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 06:35:01 -0700 (PDT)
    From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
    To: Wet Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Trapped Lesbians, Stixxntrixx, Pancakes
    Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970703062950.12234H-100000@dante17.u.washington.edu>

    > From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
    > Subject: My turn to come out...
    >
    > I'm a lesbian trapped in a mans body.

    Whoah, that's harsh, d00d. Sounds like a hopeless state of affairs. But
    good luck getting homosexual women to sleep with you...

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    > From: Brandon Elhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
    > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2676
    >
    > > > I take issue not only with your homophobic reference, but to your
    > > > lack of knowledge in general concerning the Crue.
    > 
    > > I'm glad you posted. I wrote that because I was making my list of 
    > > people who can't take a joke and congrats! You made #1 on the list.
    >
    > Good one Scott! That one got me laughing. 
    

    (three arrows deep. salud?)

    I hope Stixxntrixx isn't the sensitive type, it'd be a shame to scare off a mature poster with such a frothy welcome. Not that Scott and Brandon aren't nice guys, but Trixx-R-For-Kids kept his tone pretty well under control, which is rare... Like the BC Rich Warlock. Rare, consistent tone, and a name associated with Motley Crue.

    ---- > From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> > Subject: maricones? We don' need no stinkin' maricones > > So, would this be more or less savage a beating as the infamous > "flatten you like a pancake, boy" threat? Just curious....

    HAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!! WALK ON HOME, BOY!!!

    Bafu Vai

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    Date: Thu, 3 Jul 97 15:37:40 +0200 From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de Subject: Complete collections Message-ID: <9707031337.AA00358@sundoc13.software-ag.de>

    Hi all (with the obvious exception of the arse-wipe mail forger)

    Let's assume a group X has three or more albums. You like at least two of these albums. Do you buy the others (which you don't really like that much) just to complete the set? I was wondering about this last night. I've got albums from loads of bands that meet the above criteria - i.e. I like two or more albums but I wouldn't buy the rest. In fact I was a little surprised when I realized that I've only got 'the works' from a mere seven bands:

    Anathema Dream Theater Kyuss Paradise Lost Smashing Pumpkins Tiamat The 3rd And The Mortal

    How is it with you people out there? Does this mean that I'm choosy or simply tight-fisted?

    stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: Spock's Beard - Beware Of Darkness (still causing boners)

    PS Happy birthday to me on Saturday - one more year to go until I hit 40

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    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:00:13 -0400 From: psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <199707031358.JAA18758@kira.ici.net>

    >In Mike Bahr analysis of King's X, he says that there "Legal Kill" is the >only pro-life rock song in existence. Doesn't Galatic Cowboys' "If I Were a >Killer" also have a pro-life vibe. I don't want to start abortion as a topic >of discussion here on the jam, I just want to address that song as having a >pro-life stance.

    Hmmm...I missed that original statement, but I'd have to agree with you. PLus, I'd also add to the list "Killers Of The Unborn" by Barren Cross (from "Atomic Arena")

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    >Date: Thu, 3 Jul 97 01:39:11 -0400 >From: cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu (Christopher R. Merlo) >Subject: King's X overview and other subtleties >Message-ID: <9707030539.AA26430@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu> > >Mike Bahr, please e-mail me. I lost your e-mail address, and I'm >forced to take desperate economic measures and cancel all my CD >orders.

    Hehehe....does this yutz *really* think he's still fooling anyone other than himself? Listen, whoever you are, take some good advice: You've managed to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are an incompetent fool. Stop fooling around with your daddy's computer; go back to your room and play with your Tonka toys or something, because if you keep posting in here, you're going to get hurt.

    Maybe that'll end up being the new *cool* Ytsejam trend: You used to be *cool* if you got an EOJ, now you'll be *cool* if this pusbrain impersonates you (badly). :)

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    _____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________________ E-mail: psull@ici.net IRC: DDictator WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html NP: Drain STH - "Horror Wrestling" ______________________________________________________________

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    Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 10:56:10 -0400 From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Royal Hunt Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970703105610.00e18b80@pophost.fore.com>

    >>Anyone ever heard of a band called Royal Hunt? > >As far as I know, they are a Danish band. (although, I think the >keyboardist is Russian) > >The keyboardist and vocalist both won awards in the,"Burrn Magazine" >readers poll. The music sounded somewhat like symphonic rock.... very >keyboard oriented... in fact, I think the keyboardist writes most of the >material. The music also seemed to contain some pop elements as well.

    The current vocalist, D.C.Cooper, has only been on the last couple of albums (I think one studio LP, then a live LP, and the new album coming out). What's weird is that this guy is from my hometown, Pittsburgh PA, and was in a local band here for a couple years. Actually, a soundman from this area named Randy Mueller, who runs sound for the likes of Royal Hunt and other European bands, introduced D.C. to Royal Hunt. It's kind of wierd, cuz when he won that Buurn Magazine award, it showed up in the local magazines as well. We just never thought it would happen to anyone in our area. His old band was called the Tung Bandits, and they were pretty straight ahead hard rock/metal.

    KAI

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    Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 11:00:27 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: spam, spam, anti-abortion songs, spam, bafu, and spam Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970703105047.15953A-100000@digital.dreamt.org>

    > Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:13:09 -0400 (EDT) > From: ClPuritan@aol.com > Subject: If I Were a Killer > > In Mike Bahr analysis of King's X, he says that there "Legal Kill" is the > only pro-life rock song in existence. Doesn't Galatic Cowboys' "If I Were a > Killer" also have a pro-life vibe. I don't want to start abortion as a topic > of discussion here on the jam, I just want to address that song as having a > pro-life stance.

    I don't know much at all about KX, so I can't address that song. But "If I Were A Killer" seems to me the least likely song to be anti-abortion. It's just about a guy who wants to be a mass murderer. Simply fun stuff like that. :)

    If you want an anti-abortion song, try "Rock A Bye Bye" from the first Extreme album.

    ---- > Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 15:14:08 EST > From: Staff <212@212.net> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: rock 'n roll

    What's worse - fakers, spammers, or spammers that use the old address?

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    > Date: Thu, 3 Jul 97 01:39:11 -0400 > From: cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu (Christopher R. Merlo) > Subject: King's X overview and other subtleties > Message-ID: <9707030539.AA26430@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu> > > Oh, and also.. Pam Wheaton, never mind, you don't need to e-mail me. > I have it all taken care of.

    Boy, that was pretty funny, Beavis. Now cut it out before I kick your ass.

    Pam, it's really me this time, and I really don't have your address.

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    > From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Fire, Strife, Mischief > > However, this statement was driven back into Motley Crue's face like a > railroad spike not six months later when Vince Neil bounced back onto the > scene with "You're Invited But Your Friend Can't Come" on the soundtrack > to "Encino Man." So yeah, the boys told Vince to Get The Hell Out Of Here, > but there they were without a vocalist for MONTHS and here was Vince Neil > on heavy MTV rotation with the video, which featured the members of the > band Ted Nugent is in now, the name of which I can't remember...

    The band was Damn Yankees. The bandmates in question were Tommy Shaw (ex-guitar for Styx, and might be with them again - who can keep track?) and Jack Blades (ex-bass for Night Ranger - I believe currently picking his ass and watching TV). Their (DY's, that is) first album was really good, and I saw them live twice. Their second album didn't do anything at all for me, though.

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    Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 11:14:24 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: schtuff Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970703110034.15953B-100000@digital.dreamt.org>

    > From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> > Subject: Ha ha!! > > Ha ha, to the forger of Chris Merlo's e-mail account... Chris > doesn't have any current CD orders in to cancel!! All of his CDs were just > reservations. Joke's on you! Nice try, trying to get money out of me for > nothing. Fat fuckin' chance. Given that I know Chris face to face, this > was really fairly amateur of you, whoever you are.

    You know, I'd love to see the look on this guy's face every time another one of his stunts is spoiled.

    I bet the first gag was to see if maybe I really *am* gay, so that once I was outed I'd stay outed, and maybe hook up with him at the next Con. I bet he was upset when *that* didn't work!

    Then, I bet this guy was going to, like, try to get my TDOW from Mike or something, or get the tape I owe Pam, or just get to hug me or something. All foiled! How's it feel, tough guy? You're just not good enough. :)

    > Forger: why not just quit now. I think it's amusing, but it's no > laughing matter with Chris. And he has the know-how to really give you a > rectal weedwhacking, computerwise.

    I can't wait to try out all the stuff I've had no need to try out yet. :) (No, Mr. Forger, sorry to disappoint, but I'm not talking about any sex toys. You'll have to go back to the schoolyard to try those.)

    ---- > From: Sebastjan Videc <Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si> > Subject: VAI > > I always thought that Vai attended Berklee...

    Oh, like that would guarantee anything. :)

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    > From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu> > To: Wet Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com>

    ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :)

    > Subject: King's X > > > From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> > > Subject: King's X recommendations based on Dogman... > > I love it when Mike does this. I hope someone's cataloguing this stuff, we > could release a Ytsejam Listening Guide along with the FAQ. Then Mike Bahr > could join D-Man and scream at people to "READ THE FUQING LISTENING > GUIDE!!" :)

    We're not trying to scare people to death! :)

    > ?!?!?! * * * * L O S T I N G E R M A N Y * * * *

    Neil? J-Man? Someone want to help Bafu find a hostel or a bus or something? It's ok, Bafu, just relax. :)

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    > From: Madelaine <maddy@enteract.com> > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2688 > > >From: cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu (Christopher R. Merlo) > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > DAMN! So close, and yet so far, again. This *is* from the freak impostor, I > believe...

    Do you mean he's a freak who's also an impostor, or...

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    > From: babs@sgenaa.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia) > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2687

    Hey, everyone! It's BABS!

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    Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 10:26:47 -0500 From: Polo Santos <ytse_jammer@mail.utexas.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2688 Message-ID: <33BBC470.6C91@mail.utexas.edu>

    > Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 15:14:08 EST > From: Staff <212@212.net> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: rock 'n roll > Message-ID: 970702151408.1F03EA4@212.net> > > Rock'n Roll! > > Hi there from your buds at 212.net! > We're building the ultimate band list.

    <more stupid shit, and then SNIP!>

    Anyone else amused that they sent it to the old arastar address? Sigh, I'll be around.

    Polo

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    Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 11:43:38 -0400 From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: BORED BEYOND BELIEF Message-ID: <199707031542.AA05807@gateway2.prudential.com>

    Hello, Yeah, so I did that "from in the first word of paragraph" thing in my last post and fucked the Jam up. I'm a fucknut, remember. And an asswipe, don't forget that (that's ah-swee-pay!) On Claypool: >I know a lot of people think he is sloopy

    Hang on Sloopy! Sloopy hang on! :) durnik wrote: >Pleiades is the most Galactic Cowboys-ish work they've done

    Sorry, Mike. You had me up to this. I have Space in Your Face and any comparison to GC turns me off. I'll hunt down Gretchen in the used bin, but I'm not making any promises... Jon Parmet wrote: >Lycos is just too damn much fun sometimes!

    All work and no play makes Jon a dull boy...:) >From: Staff <212@212.net> >To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com >Subject: rock 'n roll

    Eckie, I think it's time for that medieval attitude of yours...:) Jeremy said: >2. Nuno

    Would this be Bettencourt? Or WhiteWolf's fave: Nuno Butternut? :) Heheh... How ya feeling Whitey? Oh, and I think Jeremy forgot the top ten list rule... Need I remind him? Nah...

    >Hey, imagine opening the jewel-case to The Spice Girls' album

    Snicker, snicker... All right, other folks did it, so I will too: >I can think of other pro-life rock songs:

    Rock A Bye-Bye by Extreme is yet another. Insipid post of the week goes to... THIS GUY!: >Subject: RE: Mumblings and jumblings

    Bafu wrote: >I shall discuss this foolishness no longer.

    Heh, chicken... :) Adam: >Yeah, when something's played in sort of a linear way,

    And I thought I was the only one who thought of guitar (or bass) playing in dimensional terms! Nice to see I'm not alone...:) Bafu: >Take piano lessons.

    Thanks. I sucked at em. That's why I took up guitar. :)

    >From: cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu (Christopher R. Merlo) >Subject: King's X overview and other subtleties >Message-ID: <9707030539.AA26430@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>

    I've lost my sense of humor. -- ______________________________________________________________ "Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter..." -Yoda, the Jedi Master ______________________________________________________________ Andrew Forcier a.k.a. Buck Stodgers Maintainer of the List of Ytse-Traders of Repute; To submit names or request a copy, mailto:andrew.forcier@prudential.com To view the list: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ytselist.txt -------------------------------------------------------------- --List Manager-- The Peppermint Tribe, the Saigon Kick Mailing List For info, check out: http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~rfm5570/ for e-mail inquiries, mailto:andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com **************************************************************

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    Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 09:53:39 From: nightcast@usa.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: MiB Message-ID: <ww03-BgcP2n2857@netaddress.usa.net>

    I must agree with Mike Bahr here. Men In Black is a very good show. The soundtrack has music by Danny Elfman, who's always been good at movie soundtracks. The show itself is hillarious.

    And Face/Off is the best action movie out this year.... so far.

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    Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 17:56:50 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: "you are being a dick" :-) Message-ID: <01BC87DB.6113B3C0@BEtor.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>

    Chris Ptacek wrote :

    > Remember when Mark would flame people for saying "That band rules" > or "That band sucks"? He's growing. In the wrong direction.

    Nope, I still hate it when people think the words "sucks" or "rules" constitute a review of a band or album. I AM growing, btw... Growing tired of some of the bullshit on this list. Anyway, good to have you back, Chris. :-) Too bad you thought I actually sent that post... But then again, it came from my addy, so why'd you think otherwise ?

    > The only reason Marillion can kick DT's ass is because they put DT > to sleep with their music.

    Is that why some of the guys in DT are huge Marillion fans ?

    > Marillion is more effective than NyQuil when I'm having > bouts with insomnia. :)

    "you are being a dick"

    :-)

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    Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:12:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Thrak75@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2684 Message-ID: <970703121131_-593142987@emout11.mail.aol.com>

    this was good. i found this funny. mark- you get 2 points.

    >From: Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com> >Subject: Chromakey

    >>> DT content: (sorta) Has anything come from Chromakey since >>> the 3 song demo tape? > >Rumor has it that that panty sniffing clown from Binghamton has ..... >Sorry, the devil made me do it.

    what i would give to smell some now....you know how hard it is to wet the jimmy when a) you got mono, and b) you lost your copy of chromakey?

    fuck all you healthy people. ytsegoon ************************************************************************** david y. kobayashi thrak75@aol.com

    "i'm afraid of americans, i'm afraid of the world. i'm afraid i can't help it. i'm afraid i can't." d. bowie **************************************************************************

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    Date: 03 Jul 97 09:21:11 -0700 From: "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ProLife Rock Songs: Extreme Message-ID: <199707031622.JAA14756@mailseq4.us.oracle.com>

    > Finally, Legal Kill, perhaps the only pro-life rock song in existence, > is actually a very exquisite song in addition to being a religious and > political statement of belief. Another addition to the list of pro-life rock songs: Extreme: "Rock a Bye Bye" lyric: "If you could only hear their silent screams.." etc.. Pretty cool song, musically! later, -Neil.

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