YTSEJAM Digest 2688
Today's Topics:
1) nothing important
by "Cygnus, the God of Balance (Mark Hatch-Miller)" <cygnus@onfire.net>
2) If I Were a Killer
by ClPuritan@aol.com
3) Clarifications and Ommisions
by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
4) rock 'n roll
by Staff <212@212.net>
5) Glam...again.. : )
by "Jeremy P. Kube" <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
6) Kings of guitar
by "Jeremy P. Kube" <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
7) Carolina IV, ICQ and Wessel L@tMarquering email-me!
by "Dan Souza" <soyza@ibpinetsp.com.br>
8) Angra, Loudness, Accents...
by "Brian Reeves" <ytsejammer@worldnet.att.net>
9) Angra, Loudness, Accents...
by "Brian Reeves" <ytsejammer@worldnet.att.net>
10) Duplicate Post
by "Brian Reeves" <ytsejammer@worldnet.att.net>
11) King's X overview and other subtleties
by cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu (Christopher R. Merlo)
12) Re: Cradle Of Filth
by Graham.Boyle.149036@navy.gov.au
13) Superior on the jam
by Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
14) Fire, Strife, Mischief
by "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
15) Vince LuPone & Ass-Biting (fwd)
by "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 19:01:47 -0700
From: "Cygnus, the God of Balance (Mark Hatch-Miller)" <cygnus@onfire.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: nothing important
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970702190140.006a28b0@onfire.net>
I changed my e-mail address from ace@onfire.net to cygnus@onfire.net today,
so if anyone wants to send me mail, being the semi-frequent poster and
frequent #ytsejam user than I am, feel free to send it to
cygnus@onfire.net. Thank you.
Mark Hatch-Miller
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Deep RUSH Thoughts:
I bet there's a plastic surgeon in Toronto who's laughing his head off
every time he
remembers the Yiddish kid with the funny name who actually believed that
crap he told
him about "the bigger your nose is, the better you'll sing".
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:13:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: ClPuritan@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: If I Were a Killer
Message-ID: <970702231302_1892945495@emout18.mail.aol.com>
In Mike Bahr analysis of King's X, he says that there "Legal Kill" is the
only pro-life rock song in existence. Doesn't Galatic Cowboys' "If I Were a
Killer" also have a pro-life vibe. I don't want to start abortion as a topic
of discussion here on the jam, I just want to address that song as having a
pro-life stance.
Mark
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:17:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Clarifications and Ommisions
Message-ID: <199707030317.WAA19079@enteract.com>
> From: Matt <mguillor@metacreations.com>
>
> Matt Guillory
Now I could be mistaken, but I was just running through the liner notes on
George Bellas's solo album, and I believe it said something about keyboard solos by
Matt Guillory. Iffin' that's the same Matt Guillory as the aforementioned (and I
don't think that's such a common name), here's another DAMN good reason to check out
Bellas's album on Shrapnel Records. They keys are just as psycho as the guitars on
this disc. Maybe a preview of what we can expect on Chaos Theory's album?
> dynamic range. The drumming is verrry thin and does not
> draw me into the rhythmic changes the band does introduce
> from time to time.
You'll be pleased to hear that they have a new drummer. Kevin Soffera (the old
drummer) seems to be way more into Fusion than prog, so he left to pursue that end.
> John is waiting for Bafu Vai to be impersonated, because he probably
> already has a seven pages worth of things to say to this guy... :)
> caber1@concentric.net
ROFLMAO You know he does, too...
> From: MTeiper@aol.com
> Subject: Regarding Shadow Gallery
>
> Supposedly, they should have a new album out fairly soon, but I've
> been hearing that for a LONG time now. The tentative title I heard is
> "Tyranny".
That it is, and sound bytes WILL be available soon.
> I found the band's official website on the web: www.epix.net/~kbhansen
I guess that makes it Lemur Voice syndrome, because they must have 2 official
pages. Chris Ingles and friends are working on a site, as I mentioned before, at
http://www.prognosis.com/shadow/
Can't get much more official than from the band directly :) That's where
you'll wanna look for the new samples pretty soon. I'll let you all know when they
arrive!
- Reformed and Mutilated, Same great waste- Chris
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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 15:14:08 EST
From: Staff <212@212.net>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: rock 'n roll
Message-ID: 970702151408.1F03EA4@212.net>
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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 23:49:24 -0400
From: "Jeremy P. Kube" <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Glam...again.. : )
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970702234924.007b4620@nh.ultranet.com>
Jon...
You wrote:
> Metal never left. Glam's dead because the music sucked. Kind of like
> Disco. If the music was good then the Village People would still be
> playing arenas. Like the old saying goes, the cream rises to the top.
Uh, you may wanna check the latest 97 tour schedule for the Village
People at: http://www.gryphon.com/village-people/
Sorry, couldn't resist :) Lycos is just too damn much fun sometimes!
I can certainly take a joke :) but in all seriousness:
Glam is a trend, just like flannel was to the Seattle and Boston music
scenes (although that is dead too!) The music of this period was excellent.
It's some of the best stuff (talent wise) that ever came out. If you
listen to the stuff that you either:
1. Threw away
2. Stuck away in your closet hoping that some day it'll be cool again
3. Sold in your yard sale for .25 a tape :)
4. Can't find
You will see that this stuff is actually really good. My buddy turned me
back onto this stuff. He believes that the 80's will never die! I agree
now.
If you look beyond the big hair and women's clothing, you might see the
talent. :)
The Village people are not to be compared to the 80's, they were disco.
Glam is 80's metal. Come on man! Lata, J
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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 23:54:53 -0400
From: "Jeremy P. Kube" <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Kings of guitar
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970702235453.007b32c0@nh.ultranet.com>
Okay, this is coming from a drummer (and what I listen to) so have some
courtesy! :)
My favorite "kings of guitar" are:
1. Satch
2. Nuno
3. Petrucci
4. Vai
5. Friedman
6. Hammet (just kidding)
6. Mustaine
7. Becker
8. Malmsteen
9. My friend John
These guys are in a league of their own:
10. Clapton
11. Alex Liefson
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 01:04:13 -0300
From: "Dan Souza" <soyza@ibpinetsp.com.br>
To: "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Carolina IV, ICQ and Wessel L@tMarquering email-me!
Message-ID: <199707030440.BAA08961@ibpinetsp.com.br>
Someone asked about the verses of beggining and ending of Carolina IV
(Angra, btw).. So, I've tried to figure it out by mylself and I couldn't..
Humm.. that's why there's a fuqing faq somewhere. For all of you interested
in, it's on www.regra.com.br/musica/angra/
If you are lazy (me?) here's the verses:
9. What do they sing in the beggining of "Carolina IV"?
-------------------------------------------------------
They sing two choruses in Portuguese in the beggining of "Carolina IV".
According to Rafael, here's what they sing:
"Salve salve Iemanjá,
Salve Janaína
E tudo o que se fez n'água
Jogam flores para o mar
Deus salve a Rainha
E o meu traço nessa esfera...
Um caboclo de orixás
Logo deixa a Terra
Vai de encontro à sua sina
Onde o céu encontra o mar
Achará seu porto
E é assim que isso termina..."
Thanks to Cristiano Mafra and Beatriz Lins for typing and sending it to
me!!
And I'm sorry, but I'm still trying to find a way to translate it to
English... :)
___________________________________________________________________________
For those who haven't tried ICQ yet, go to www.mirabillis.com and get it!
It's funny, useful, and the coolest Internet program I have. 'Nuff said. :)
(DTC:) Oh, I almost forgot.. WESSEL!! WHERE ARE YOU NOW? :)
* Dan Souza (Jay) *
soyza@ibpinetsp.com.br
"It's all about peace and love and good happiness stuff."
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:26:18 +0000
From: "Brian Reeves" <ytsejammer@worldnet.att.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Angra, Loudness, Accents...
Message-ID: <19970703051935.AAA13849@[207.146.131.186]>
>>>>>>Out of Lurk Mode<<<<<<<
Got something funny to add to the Andre Matos accent
discussion.......
I played Holy Land at work for a couple of fellow technicians
and they both said something like " I like these guys except
the Vocalist sounds EXACTLY like that singer from LOUDNESS!!"
Ya know...I kinda think there IS a certain similarity....but since
Loudnessesseses (too dam many ssssses) singer was JAPANESE
I'm not at all sure why this would be so.
Any one else think so?
These guys also liked Superior's Behind a lot except they felt the
sound was too much like DT. IMHO they have a very original sound
with less progressive tendencies and less keyboard work than DT.
Speaking Of Superior-Any of you Jammers who haven't ordered this
from Dream Disc need to do so. It's only about 13 bucks and worth
twice that. Very heavy, very melodic and it grabs you right away and
never lets go. My only wish-More solos next time guys ; )
Question for the Jammers
Thinkin about ordering Symphony X Divine Wings.
I didn't like Echolyn or Shadow Gallery (the only dissapointments
I've had with Jammer recomendations). Not heavy 'nuff for my
tastes.
Take it or Leave it - Let me know - Gimme some opinions Guys & Gals.
Long Live Electronica
L8R
Ytsejammer
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:30:34 +0000
From: "Brian Reeves" <ytsejammer@worldnet.att.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Angra, Loudness, Accents...
Message-ID: <19970703051935.AAB13849@[207.146.131.186]>
From: Ytsejammer@worldnet.att.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Angra, Loudness, Accents...
Reply-to: ytsejammer@worldnet.att.net
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:26:30
>>>>>>Out of Lurk Mode<<<<<<<
Got something funny to add to the Andre Matos accent
discussion.......
I played Holy Land at work for a couple of fellow technicians
and they both said something like " I like these guys except
the Vocalist sounds EXACTLY like that singer from LOUDNESS!!"
Ya know...I kinda think there IS a certain similarity....but since
Loudnessesseses (too dam many ssssses) singer was JAPANESE
I'm not at all sure why this would be so.
Any one else think so?
These guys also liked Superior's Behind a lot except they felt the
sound was too much like DT. IMHO they have a very original sound
with less progressive tendencies and less keyboard work than DT.
Speaking Of Superior-Any of you Jammers who haven't ordered this
from Dream Disc need to do so. It's only about 13 bucks and worth
twice that. Very heavy, very melodic and it grabs you right away and
never lets go. My only wish-More solos next time guys ; )
Question for the Jammers
Thinkin about ordering Symphony X Divine Wings.
I didn't like Echolyn or Shadow Gallery (the only dissapointments
I've had with Jammer recomendations). Not heavy 'nuff for my
tastes.
Take it or Leave it - Let me know - Gimme some opinions Guys & Gals.
Long Live Electronica
L8R
Ytsejammer
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:32:50 +0000
From: "Brian Reeves" <ytsejammer@worldnet.att.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Duplicate Post
Message-ID: <19970703052151.AAA14633@[207.146.131.186]>
Oops....
Sorry about the duplicate post
My brain fell out
L8R
Ytsejammer
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 97 01:39:11 -0400
From: cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu (Christopher R. Merlo)
Subject: King's X overview and other subtleties
Message-ID: <9707030539.AA26430@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
Mike Bahr, please e-mail me. I lost your e-mail address, and I'm
forced to take desperate economic measures and cancel all my CD
orders.
Whoever you are who posted the King's X overview (I think it was
someone with the address of durnik@goodnet.edu or something), that
was a really good breakdown of all of King's X's stuff. I plan on
grabbing a few of their discs the next time I get some moolah. Too
much of my money these days is being spent on male hookahs.
Oh, and also.. Pam Wheaton, never mind, you don't need to e-mail me.
I have it all taken care of.
Sorry again for the clutter, folks.
-d
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:38:08 +1000
From: Graham.Boyle.149036@navy.gov.au
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Cradle Of Filth
Message-ID: <4A2564C8.00189E30.00@nschq-e-navy.navy.gov.au>
Cradle Of Filth are a scream alright, they all wear full face make up and
in every picture I have seen of them they try to look as mean 'n'
evil as possible but I find them hilaroius. Their music I would
describe as standard death metal, with some nice keyboards and female
voices, nothing spectacular.
They seem to be an image band to me, here in Sydney, the one shop that
stock their merchandise sell more t-shirts than CD's, figure that one
?
All IMO only
Graham
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Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 08:45:43 +0200
From: Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Superior on the jam
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970703084543.007d2350@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
HI jammlings!! :)
Ok, as there were quite a lot people talking about my (my?) band
Superior I decided to crawl out of my hole and post something
here... :)
I'm sorry that I didn't show up here for a few months but I just
didn't have the time to read all the jams. Just wanted to tell you
that I'm still alive... :)
For any people who need some information about Superior, have a
look at http://gaia.owl.de/~fine/superior.html
This is (one of) our homepage(s) and you find a lot of info
there about our band (people, pictures, soundclips, lyrics,
Newsletters, ...). If you have any problems to find our album
feel free to email me at basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de and I'll
send you some addresses where you can find it.
Thanks to all people who wrote so positive things about our
band recently. You rock! :)
Just to let you all know... we're currently writing some
new songs (just recorded a few on 8-track) for the next
album. We're going to be in studio again from the 8th
December on and the next album will be out in Feb./March
next year.
Ok. All for now. Maybe I should read the jams more often... :)
Bye.
Bernd
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| | Bernd Basmer |
| _I_ | Guitar - Superior |
| <*,*> | |
| [( )] | For Info about Superior have a look at: |
| -"-"- | http://gaia.owl.de/~fine/superior.html |
| Punk Owl | |
| | http://www.hlti.fi/~opk/bernd/ |
| | Email: basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de |
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 00:29:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dreamt Heater <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Fire, Strife, Mischief
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970703002807.34032C-100000@dante07.u.washington.edu>
> From: loki@juno.com (Scott Cook)
> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2676
>
> Ok, DoD was pretty much put out so the Crue could get rid of Vince.
> Dr. Feelgood was a good record, but what's "She Goes Down" about?
Aren't you paying attention to that opening *zzziiip*? Geez, everyone
thinks that that's something being UNzipped, but it's obviously not. It's
a woman zipping up a jumpsuit so she can go skydiving. She just likes to
give blowjobs WHILE skydiving...
Whoah, dude... I just, like, discovered how to surpass the "unsurpassable"
adrenalin-rush skydivers are always talking about... Be right back...
> I saw an interview with Nikki after they fired Vince Neil Wharton and
> he said they fired him because Vince wanted to go in the direction of
> bands like Poison, and they wanted to get heavier.
I heard they were planning on going heavy right after the release of Dr.
Feelgood. Nikki Sixx said, before the tour even began, "our next album is
going to be total balls-to-the-wall heavy stuff" which I inferred to mean,
"there won't be any feathery 'time for change' shit on our next album."
As for why Vince was kicked out of the band, I heard and read in an
interview with the band that "basically he wanted to race cars more than
he wanted to play music." This statement was partially true as Vince Neil
was a big racecar-driving fanatic, though I think at one point all rock/
metal musicians have had their picture taken in a Pennzoil 1 Racer...
However, this statement was driven back into Motley Crue's face like a
railroad spike not six months later when Vince Neil bounced back onto the
scene with "You're Invited But Your Friend Can't Come" on the soundtrack
to "Encino Man." So yeah, the boys told Vince to Get The Hell Out Of Here,
but there they were without a vocalist for MONTHS and here was Vince Neil
on heavy MTV rotation with the video, which featured the members of the
band Ted Nugent is in now, the name of which I can't remember...
> The Crue changed their look with every album, but the music pretty much
> stayed the same. TFFL (Leathur) and SATD are great, after that they
> should've just quit.
Satanic with gothic makeup and bizarre shoulder-pad devices. Glamorous
runway models. Leather-clad badboys with motorcycles. Asylum residents
surrounded by voluptuous nurses with large syringes (though I'm not sure
exactly what trend they were trying to set with that one). As it is I'm
not sure how much guys like Nikki Sixx and Tommy Lee could "change" their
images as their arms are somewhat covered with graffitti. Not unlike a NEW
YORK SUBWAY.
Baphu Vy
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 00:31:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dreamt Heater <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Vince LuPone & Ass-Biting (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970703002954.34032D-100000@dante07.u.washington.edu>
Server ax.com, you copy? Re-sending. Take II, over...
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:45:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dreamt Heater <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Vince LuPone & Ass-Biting
I'd just like to say up front that Dream Theater rules. I'll post a list
of my favorite Dream Theater Moments in due time. Sooner or later...time
vill tell...
---- > From: loki@juno.com (Scott Cook) > Subject: Re: Umm... STUFF > > That makes two of us."That's it, McGarnigle!! You're OUTTA HERE!!"
*CRAASHSHSH!!!*
"Dat maykes two uf us."
> First of al, Vince is a good guy. Just becausee he has an opinion > that's different from others doesn't mean he's a jerk or anything.
Yeah. And just because Vince is a jerk doesn't mean he's not allowed to have opinions or anything. ;) ;)
> Or maybe the general record buying public has an IQ in the single > digits and wouuldn't know good music if it jumped up and bit them in > the ass.
Ouch! Imagine opening the jewel-case to Tracy Bonham's album and having her suddenly jump out like some super-pissed-off genie and bite you in the ass!! Hey, imagine opening the jewel-case to The Spice Girls' album and---nevermind......
> No, *YOU* don't care. I don''t care if Motley Crue falls off the face > of the earth, but some people here like them. It's called diversity.
I thought someone on this list proved a while back that diversity and close-mindedness were the same thing...wait, what was it...have to search the archives...
---- > From: loki@juno.com (Scott Cook) > Subject: Re: glam rules (?) > > "Put the bunny down."
"That man is a font of misplaced rage."
Bafu Vai
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