YTSEJAM Digest 2707
Today's Topics:
1) Re: yeehaw
by "KorgX3" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net>
2) RE: MiB
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
3) RE: Bounty Hunters, Garden Utensils, Jalapenos
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
4) TO M I K E B A H R ! ! ! !
by "D. Schoen" <denis.schoen@tip.nl>
5) RE: a bunch of seemingly non-related replies all strung together.
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
6) YTSEJAM 2.692 * 10^3 - 2.706 * 10^3
by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.T.I.F.F.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
7) =?ISO-8859-1?Q?To_all_of_you_and_Bernd=A7?=
by "Magnus Lind" <treasure.land@mailbox.swipnet.se>
8) Imposter vs. Ytsejammers: 1 - 0
by gra@provida.no
9) Christian bands
by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
10) Re: Bounty Hunters, Garden Utensils, Jalapenos
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
11) Re: Altura - Magna Carta
by wjwomack@tddeng00.fnts.com (Wade J. Womack)
12) Mumblings and Jumblings
by Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2705
by Gungha@aol.com
14) RE: YTSEJAM digest 2706
by Nick Giannotti <N.Giannotti@COMEQUITY.COM>
15) september's starting to look expensive.....
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
16) The New SONGS
by richard@capitale.qc.ca (Richard James)
17) Re: Clarity, Mr. Luh-SAWED
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
18) not soon enough, damnit
by john jens <jjens@darkhorse.triad.net>
19) Non-prog; Remember that time when...; whiny old bastard; my favorite DT moment
by caber1@concentric.net
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:46:27 -0600
From: "KorgX3" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: yeehaw
Message-ID: <199707070647.XAA02509@odin.ax.com>
>I'm surprised you have enough brain power to operate a computer you
>jackass. You can't tell the difference between a threat and a wish. Come
>back when you get a clue Spunky.
Tone down on those testosterone implants!
No need to get hostile over someone else's opinion, in my opinion.
"Everybody wants some! I want some, too!"
KorgX3
KorgX3@cyberhighway.net
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Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 23:55:56 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: MiB
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-970707065556Z-4699@ms.Kallback.com>
>The soundtrack has music by Danny Elfman, who's always been good at
>movie soundtracks.
I love all of DE's stuff. Let's just hope they release a separate score,
besides the soundtrack.
>
>And Face/Off is the best action movie out this year.... so far.
Agreed.
Trevor
Long Live Oingo Boingo!!!
>
>
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:00:48 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: Bounty Hunters, Garden Utensils, Jalapenos
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-970707070048Z-4705@ms.Kallback.com>
>Hey, how come no one's ever named a band after something from Star Wars?
>Or HAVE they???
>Yep. There's a band called Red Five as in "Red Five Leader, I've got you
>covered", and one called
>Nerfherder, Leah calls someone an immature nerfherder or something like that.
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:05:13 +0200
From: "D. Schoen" <denis.schoen@tip.nl>
To: "Ytse Jam Mailing list" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: TO M I K E B A H R ! ! ! !
Message-ID: <m0wl7rG-000FR6C@helium.tip.nl>
Hey Mike,
Could you please drop me a private line
All my emails to you keep bouncing back to me
Thanx in advance :-)
Denis
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:25:19 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: a bunch of seemingly non-related replies all strung together.
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-970707072519Z-4713@ms.Kallback.com>
>> HEY!! I HAPPEN TO BE FAT!! YOU CIRCUMFERENCIALIST!!
>
>I love it when Bafu makes up words. :)
and facts. BV's quite HWP, IMHGO. (in my humble gay opinion)
nice subject line, btw :)
>
>
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 02:34:07 -0500
From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.T.I.F.F.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM 2.692 * 10^3 - 2.706 * 10^3
Message-ID: <33C09BEF.2CE4@auburn.net>
Wow. I finish reading all the 'jams in my inbox, and by the time I
finish there's 2 more waiting on me....
Don't worry about h***(**)sexuality. There's this person named Kristi
that I love very much, and the feeling is mutual. If you are lucky
enough to find yourself in a situation similar to this, don't look your
gift horse in the mouth.
I received 2 Spock's Beard CDs in the mail Friday. I hate categorization
as much as the next person, but "Beware of Darkness" is, to me, the CD
that Yes could have released if Close to the Edge and Drama were somehow
juxtaposed. Special thanks go to D-Merlo-Man for loudly espousing this
band's virtues on the 'jam :) otherwise I'd have never plunked down the
necessary dough to get these discs.
I also noticed a long-forgotten persona in a few of the 'jams as I read
them in their entirety. James Carey, if you're reading this, please
email me.
And I almost forgot: the new Fangoria has pictures from the Spawn movie.
Omigod, this movie looks like it's gonna kick some booty :)
Mark Peters
swifty@auburn.net
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:57:27 +0200
From: "Magnus Lind" <treasure.land@mailbox.swipnet.se>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?To_all_of_you_and_Bernd=A7?=
Message-ID: <199707070851.KAA15181@janus.swip.net>
Hello!
anybody been to our page yet?
http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-48707
Hi Bernd!
Have you been to our page?(you know we are kind of family) ;^)
//Mangan
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:33:21 +0100
From: gra@provida.no
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Imposter vs. Ytsejammers: 1 - 0
Message-ID: <412564CD.003966BE.00@oslo1.provida.no>
Hi jammers, have you noticed the fact that the fucknut of an imposter got
what he came for ?
This list sure has been fucked up, big time. All you guys are posting is
your opinion on the homosexual issue.
I COULDN'T CARE LESS FOR YOUR OPINIONS (well... not on this list, not this
issue)!!!
-.profile
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 97 11:50:30 +0200
From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de
Subject: Christian bands
Message-ID: <9707070950.AA00268@sundoc13.software-ag.de>
Hi all
After all the latest talk about christian bands, I decided to take a look at the
lyrics in my King's X and Galactic Cowboys albums. Sure enough, the texts look
like real christian stuff, and the CDs were binned immediately. I could have
taken them to the used CD shop, but I don't want to expose anybody else to this
sort of stuff.
Why did I resort to such radical measures? Quite simple: I consider Christianity
(and the large section that calls itself Roman Catholic in particular) to be
the most oppressive, anti-democratic, intolerant, deceitful organization of the
last 2000 years. It has had blood on it's hands from the very beginning and it's
still killing people now. If you want to try and prove me wrong, feel free to
take this to private e-mail, and I will back up my objections with hard facts
from official church documents. Please note, I am not saying I object to other
people believing in what they call God, it's simply that I object most strongly
to the way this God has been institutionalized and to the missionary nature of
this religion. I want no part in it. I will not comment on this theme in public
again.
Back to music. I went to see Biohazard last week (any other crossover fans out
there?). Hard, harder, Biohazard. These guys were amazing. More energy than a
nuclear reactor just about to go critical. NO brilliant solos, NO castrato
vocals, NO Wakemanesque keyboards, just good, hard, clean fun (and as heavy as
a bull elephant's scrotum). Even the support act, Stuck Mojo, weren't bad. How
about Biohazard with Machine Head, Sepultura and Meshuggah?
stay safe and happy listening
Neil Gallop
(nga@software-ag.de)
Currently playing: Channel Zero - Unsafe
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 02:57:54 -0600
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Bounty Hunters, Garden Utensils, Jalapenos
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970707025753.007fc690@postoffice.syspac.com>
Way too late at night, Who? ... Bafuuuu wrote:
>Hey, how come no one's ever named a band after something from Star Wars?
>Or HAVE they???
I once opened for a band called Mos Eisley :)
Mike Bahr used to be in Scoobacca (sp?)
Any more?
>> you can rape them up the ass with a garden utensil, but you wont change
>> them.
>
>That depends on whether it's the pole-end of a shovel or a three-pronged
>Garden Weasel(tm).
Geez!! Bafu is inhuman!! Nobody can be this funny forever :) You're
almost a god, steve ;P~ almost...
Peace,
-Vince
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:01:26 -0500
From: wjwomack@tddeng00.fnts.com (Wade J. Womack)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Altura - Magna Carta
Message-ID: <199707071101.GAA14845@tddpd22.tddeng00.fnts.com>
Chung Ng wrote:
I just got Altura's "Mercy" (thanks to Carlos Alfaro) and must say that it
fits right in with the Magna Carta catalog of artists. Lots of busy and
intricate arrangements, vocal gymnastics, cool ballads, good production...
Does anyone have any opinions on their other release(s)?
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If, by "their", Chung means Magna Carta, I completely agree. I am now the
proud owner of the entire MC catalog and there is not a clunker in the
bunch - IMHO of course. I bought the Tull tribute. solely to complete my
collection (I am not a *huge* Tull fan) but I was completely suprised -
it rocks! The first two trax, by Magellan, sold me!
MC is doing us all a great service by giving young, up-and-coming prog
artists a commercial outlet. I am eagerly awaiting the Levin, Stevens and
Bozzio project. Long live Magna Carta ! :)
Wade
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 20:50:51 +1000
From: Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mumblings and Jumblings
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970707205051.006de818@powerup.com.au>
Greetings
OK, just a couple of requests this time, not mumblings and, incidentally,
very few jumblings...
1. Please cut the discussion about homosexuality.
2. There's going to be a DT album released in just over two months. Why
aren't we talking about this?
3. Be nice to each other. We're here to talk about and discuss Dream
Theater and other related topics. Private email can be a wonderful thing -
if you want to abuse someone for all it's worth, don't put it in the jam.
It just means you're either someone who thinks other people want to hear
it, or you're just an exhibitionist.
Reading the recent jams, I've found myself genuinely wishing, on more than
one occasion, that this were a moderated mailing list. Please, I implore
each and every one of you, to start talking about DT or, if this isn't
possible, at least contribute something worthy of discussing. Not the pros
and cons of being gay, not all that other shit which has been permeating
the list in recent weeks.
The band are said to read the Ytsejam. Having a look at what is being said
recently, I doubt we're the kinds of fans they'd really like to have.
Just a couple of thoughts for you to either ignore or dwell on. Do
whatever takes your fancy.
Lots of love,
Spiff
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 08:41:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gungha@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2705
Message-ID: <970707084109_1210790194@emout15.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 97-07-07 02:41:38 EDT, you write:
<< Now I know that Petrucci uses the 2:90 live, but 90 watts per channel
normally just doesn't cut it for me. >>
Vince...
there is a huge difference between a solid state 90 watt-er and a tube 90.
the 2:90, which i hope to get in the coming months.... is 90 watts per
side and with tubes, that pretty loud. you'd have to be playing some pretty
huge venues unmiked for that not to be enough. But that's just my opinion.
i could be wrong.
Mike
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:00:14 -0400
From: Nick Giannotti <N.Giannotti@COMEQUITY.COM>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 2706
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Commonwealth_Equ%l=MAIL_SERVER-970707130014Z-4518@mail_server.comequity.com>
> From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
>Hey, how come no one's ever named a band after something from Star Wars?
>Or HAVE they???
The semi-talented band "Nerfherder" is named after an insult that
Princess Leia called Han Solo in Empire Strikes Back.
Now that I think of it, I don't know if that's the best thing for me to
say in my first posting to this list.... :)
>
>
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:31:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: september's starting to look expensive.....
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970707084743.7684C-100000@qix.rs.itd.umich.edu>
what w/ DT, Genesis (are those being released (planned release, anyway)
on the same day?), savatage (i think? or is that earlier?)
as for genesis, i just (finally) got We can't Dance the other day.....just
never had the urge to do so previously, never got all that much out of the
radio songs.....but recently I been lis'nin to a lot of genesis all up and
down their career.....got a bunch of their late 70s/early 80s vinyl from a
garage sale, etc......getting excited about the new one.......
stupid nitpicking....i thot lines in the sand was one of the "completed"
songs....although DOug pinnick would be a welcome voice to hear.......
As far as me and King's X, I started with DOgman, wasn't impressed enuff
to run out and get the rest of their stuff.....ironically, Cigarettes was
and remains my fave song on that disc, it's just that nobody ever
mentioned that's the most representative KX-ish song on there (until Mike
Bahr a few days ago, o' course), otherwise, I would have grabbed FHL a lot
longer than three months ago.......Got to add one song to the lists of
best stuff off KS discs....."Mr. Wilson" (FHL) may be my fave KX song: I
have no idea what the lyrics say, I don't know what it's about (Dennis the
Menace, Maybe?), but that sucker just resonates with me musically
anywho, back to the original point....Funny how all the bands/artists I
*have* to buy early seem to release stuff near each other......last
september it was eric johnson and rush a coupla weeks apart......
knowhutimean?
Falling into infinity: I like it....sounds.....Irish or something,
beckett, maybe.....or einstein, I dunno.....
the gay thread: I got an opinion, so does everyone, but me not being
the shove it down the throat type,nor the "i got the opine, but I ain't
gonna share" type of guy, I'll give y'all the option
of seeing it (or not).....if you care to, point your browsers at:
http://www.umich.edu/~ahtrap/bschorr.html
for a good commentary on it.......I also got that dancing baby on that
page, so check it out anyway.......if you do take a look, I'd like to
hear what you think......the e-mail as always, ahtrap@umich.edu
and one more thing: Don't assume everyone holding PC ideas does so just
because it is the PC line.......that term, bad words from ALL sides of
the political spectrum, implies that people held different unpopular views
and changed them to satisfy someone.......let me assure whomever, that my
views are my own, arrived at under scant influence from some bullshit
standards.....
partha "cynical fuck" mukhopadhyay
"Gators getting close, hasn't got me yet......"
PC :) (w/ TB and MR, of course)
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:55:53 +0500
From: richard@capitale.qc.ca (Richard James)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The New SONGS
Message-ID: <9707071355.AA03204@jason.qc.ca>
only one question for the people who saw the fix show
do somebody can make a brief review of the 5 songs that they played ?
(that one is progressive, that one is "accessible",
is the songs are "awake" sound or IW SOUND)
thanks
rj
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:30:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Clarity, Mr. Luh-SAWED
Message-ID: <199707071430.KAA09881@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
>
> So I've been away for the weekend and it looks like I missed about TEN
> 'jams, time to start skimming and scanning...
>
> I just got back from the Lilith Fair in George, Washington (yes, the name
> of a real place). It was one goddess-damn awesome show, a six-hour
> music-spree! Anyone on this list who lives in a city that the Lilith Fair
> is visiting, check this event out, you won't be disappointed. And if you
> are disappointed, it's your own fault for ignoring my horrible prophecy-
> record..
dammit, THIS is what I love about the 'Jam.....I just got back
from a long hliday weekend, and was going to post to ask if
anyone had gone to Lilith and to let me know how it kinda is....
So I'm sifting through all this crap, and lo and behold my
question was answered (very briefly) before I even posted!
thanks Bafu, and if you can give me a bit more info on Lilith,
please E-mail me........
later,
Al
-- ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@I inhale the sun...........I exhale the absence of light I am the number One..........burning.
^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ email: balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu the_prof@bigfoot.com HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:53:25 -0500 (CDT) From: john jens <jjens@darkhorse.triad.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: not soon enough, damnit Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970707094625.27726A-100000@darkhorse.triad.net>
On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, S. Borzilleri wrote: | > From: Thrak75@aol.com | > Subject: the greatest irony | | A bunch of escaped convicts in a hijacked plane singing a song by a band | that was KILLED in a plane crash.
pretty good movie. face/off was better tho.
| > From: Brandon Elhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu> | > Subject: Re: the greatest irony | > | > No...A change of seasons came out on September 19th. | | Ah, but how many ACOS's could one listen to before the September 23rd | release date for the new album? Keep in mind that if the last one goes | over into the 23rd, like "it won't end until 12:06am on Sept. 23," it's | okay, it still counts towards the total.
4883 give or take power outages...plus the standard disclaimer.
oh, yeah. i'm back everyone.
john (saveur on IRC) j j e n s @ s h e l l . w e b z o n e . n e t
s h e l l . w e b z o n e . n e t / ~ j j e n s /
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 10:31:43 -0700 From: caber1@concentric.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Non-prog; Remember that time when...; whiny old bastard; my favorite DT moment Message-ID: <33C127FF.5492@concentric.net>
Hi everyone,
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> From: "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com> > Subject: Secular, and the future of prog, and all things YTSE
even Ytse-Sin?
> we can sound like nice open minded informed music listeners with well > rounded tastes by saying: > "I listen to all music but _____(insert word here)"
I listen to all music but...excuse I just heard my name. :) > So, you see how much easier things would be? So I'm interested in > hearing everybody's idea of what such a word should be. Because who > better to make such an important decision than the followers of the > almighty YTSE-JAM? > Or, if you think this is the stupidest idea you've ever heard, feel > free to flame the hell out me, and tell me what a jerk I must be to > think of something this dumb. It doesn't matter to me, I'm just curious > as to what sort of words we can come up with.
The second paragraph kinda is my opinion. I mean come on that last sentence in the first paragraph so retarded it isn't funny. I'm not flaming you it's just seeing this the second time I couldn't resist. :)
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> From: "Steven C. Young" <syoung@phnx.uswest.net> > Subject: Re: Ytse-Survey II -- Current Standings
Oh joy!!! :) > We are now entering our second week of the survey, and the first has > been a promising one. 17 entries were received in the first 3 days, > though the number of entries has slacked off a bit. We're well on our > way, but we still lack quite a bit for our goal of 150 entries. For > those of you who haven't yet, e-mail me at syoung@phnx.uswest.net with > your 10 favorite 'non-Dream Theater' bands/artists -- Entries will be > accepted until 11:59 p.m., July 31st; at that point, the entries will be > compiled and a Ytse-Survey II champion crowned.
Everyone should enter! Seriously, if you were on the list last year when this came out, you would know how much fun this was. We all asked around afterward about who else voted for another "unheard of band." I'm voting right after this! :)
> Current statistics are as follows (as of 7/5/97): > Number of entries: 21 > Number of different bands/artists mentioned: 97 > Current Survey Top 5 (with number of entries): > 1) Queensryche (13) > Rush > 3) Savatage (9) > 4) Fates Warning (8) > 5) Megadeth (6) > Steve Vai
You know what would be good, Steve. If you could also post the top 5 from last year(from each update, not from the final count). I don't know if you have the info still, but it would be cool to see how the jam changed in a year.
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I never thought that I would be one of those people who would repeatly complain about the jam, BUT, this is getting old. How many times will it take for some of you to get that after 'From:' you don't always need 'ytsejam@ax.com' most of the last couple of jams were just people still trying to throw their opinions around, and even if I agree with you or not, I emailed usually email that person if its off topic! Not to complain or praise but to talk. Yes, it's true you can email someone just to talk about what they wrote! Skadz, stop this before I ask Twinkieboy to take over the jam to fix things! ;)
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I was just thinking about WDADU, and my favorite DT moment *has* to be the ending of OMaT. Period. :)
"I saw a slow moving, sad-faced old gentleman as he bounced off the hood of my car." -Accident Reports from Insurance Forms (no joke)
John McCabe caber1@concentric.net
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