YTSEJAM Digest 2716
Today's Topics:
1) Fates Warning
by jemmons@neo.lrun.com (John Emmons)
2) Boston jammers-Urgent!(Regarding QR show 8/2)
by "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
3) South American tour? (incredibly, pure DTC)
by "Miguel Farah F." <miguel@webhost.cl>
4) Enchant's new one
by Egils Kaljo <kaljoe@rpi.edu>
5) New songs and a YtseCon
by Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk>
6) observations and green panties in the wind
by Thrak75@aol.com
7) re: neo-classical guitar / 80s
by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
8) Fates Warning - U.S. Tour Dates
by mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
9) Re: Rush Chronicle
by DragynLMC3@aol.com
10) Moods, Rush
by Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
11) Re: Mood Songs
by Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
12) FiI stolen; Marillion used to suck, now they're mainstream; guitarists pass the torch to the animals...
by caber1@concentric.net
13) Re: Rush Recommendations
by "KorgX3" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net>
14) Glowy things
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:28:35 +0100
From: jemmons@neo.lrun.com (John Emmons)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fates Warning
Message-ID: <v01540b02afe7aa44a257@[204.210.204.246]>
Fates Warning will be in Columbus , Ohio on August 13th and in Cleveland,
Ohio on August 15th.
Fish will be in Cleveland, Ohio on August 10th.
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 06:39:04 PDT
From: "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Boston jammers-Urgent!(Regarding QR show 8/2)
Message-ID: <199707081339.GAA07141@f51.hotmail.com>
I am here for the Berklee Performance Program, and I have a ticket for
the August 2nd show at Great Woods.
There's just one problem.
When I ordered the tickets, I did not realize that Boston public
transportation does not cover this area! :-(
Is there someone who will be going to the show that can give me a lift?
If so, please email me!
Eric LaRue
(my sig is not working. :-( )
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:56:18 -0400 (CST)
From: "Miguel Farah F." <miguel@webhost.cl>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: South American tour? (incredibly, pure DTC)
Message-ID: <199707081356.JAA16388@antonia.webhost.cl>
In the last week I've been hearing constant rumors about DT doing a tour
in South Americ, that would even bring them to Chile! (finally)
Do you guys know anything about it?
(say, this might be a nice change of pace for the list: from NDTC crap
to DTC rumors...)
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:59:40 -0400 From: Egils Kaljo <kaljoe@rpi.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Enchant's new one Message-ID: <199707081359.JAA70990@alumni.rpi.edu>
Well, someone mentioned that they wanted discussion on the new Enchant album - "Wounded". I picked it up a few weeks ago and having listened to it a few times now, was not too taken with it. The songs all sounded slightly too similar, and at times they seemed to be trying too hard.
But I haven't heard "Blueprint of the World" yet, and I haven't ruled out picking it up if I see it, but for now, I would pass on "Wounded".
Not to say that there aren't some decent songs on it (Below Zero, Look Away) but all in all, it's really nothing special.
Stuff that I've heard recently that I would recommend though - Megadeth's latest (Cryptic Writings), Bruce Dickinson's latest (Accident of Birth), Marillion's latest (This Strange Engine), Fish's latest (Sunsets on Empire), and, of course, Fates Warning's latest (I think we all know the title of that one now!)
looking forward to new DT!
Egils
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 15:19:21 +0100 (BST) From: Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: New songs and a YtseCon Message-ID: <Marcel-1.08-0708141921-d07rZWN@mor.apsoft.co.uk>
Falling Into Infinity. What's the album cover going to look like? I bet it has stars and clouds and windblown trees, and a fencepost with the Majesty logo carved into it.
I also bet we get a mention in the liner notes! :-)
> From: "DJW" <DJW_at_NEON@smtpgate.walker.com> > > New songs - "Where are you now" is the best (IMHO) closely followed > by "Burning My Soul", as heavy as you like...
Unfortunately I was full of beer in Amsterdam, so I can't recall too many details of the new songs. I do remember that Buring My Soul has that cool catchy vocal line in the chorus, there are neat harmonies in Peruvian Skies, and that I was incredibly moved by Take Away My Pain.
> Lastly - 23 September sounds good but presumably that's the US > release date - does anyone know about the European release date
Whenever it is, I'll be taking the day off work.
> From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> > > I got news on Ytsecon-IV. [snip] The target city, if we want to make this > work as well as possible, should be Las Vegas, sometime late this year.
I'll go as long as D-Man promises to shave his butt.
> From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) > > It certainly helps if I'm down because I can't see my girlfriend for a > few days
I'm in a great mood, because I'm seeing Neil's girlfriend tonite ;-)
Graham
-- Graham Borland Email : gborland@apsoft.co.uk WWW : http://www.apsoft.co.uk Alternative Publishing Ltd Tel : 0141 418 0881 30 Clyde Place, Glasgow G5 8AQ Fax : 0141 418 0889
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 10:32:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Thrak75@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: observations and green panties in the wind Message-ID: <970708103236_1311506907@emout04.mail.aol.com>
my, my, what a wild few jams. this is gonna be fun.
all this homo-buffoonery makes me wonder what the next ytse-con will be like. one side of the room telling the dragonl-whateva one which rush album to get (personally, i say "fuck them" and go for yes or crimson! ha! muthafucka!), and the other side, of course, talking about you-know-what.
dear mr. impostor- you're a scary individual, as i'll point out later, but i think if there ever happens to be a ytse-con anytime soon, you should appear. you might need a bullet-proof vest or something, but that would make my entrance fee worth it, i think.
>Now Playing: Medeski Martin and Wood, _Friday Afternoon in the Universe_ > >Rick Audet >Dolby Labs
yay!!!!!!!!!! great album! it's not even progressive.
hey vinnie, you want a real nice boogie amp? i don't know if it has enough wattage for you, but it's the best sounding amp i've ever heard. go check out a mark iii when you get a chance (not the combo, but the head). please. if you do, i'd love to know what you think.
"and i'll form.......the HEAD." keith, voltron.
now, this mccabe fucknut wrties me:
>>fuck all you healthy people.
>Still can't get your jimmy wet? ;)
don't tease me, you cocksucker (woops- shouldn't say that around here). but thanks for the km (-jelly) info.
and then, on wall street:
>NOW PLAYING: >^^^ ^^^^^^^
>Bela Fleck and the Flecktones: live art
>William Ackerman: imaginary roads
>King's X: Gretchen goes to Nebraska
i wonder what they all sound like played simultaneously, brandon.
>YTSEJAM'S FIRST TOP YTSEJAMMER LIST
this might have been the most bizarre and scariest posts i've seen here. does any pink floyd nuts remember the whole deal with the enigma publius guy who posted random messages telling floyd fans about these absurd clues and a "little reward" if you solved him. all the floyd net folks pissed on themselves.
ladies and gentleman, the enigma publius has joined us here on the little ol' ytsejam. this means that when dt plays here on their next tour, we should look out for the lights to spell his name, and of course, it's time to get our tori glasses on and begin over-analyzing the meanings of the lyrics, too. just watch, i tell ya.
>So, that is how things are going to be now. If you don't like it: > >mail ytsejam-request@ax.com >Subject: asdf > >unsubscribe ytsejam > >If you have questions, comments, etc, mail me. > >Skadz >Ytsejam Moderator >skadz@dreamt.org
yo! someone get this guy a 6 pack, a pound of crack, and three nude girls which he can use as a hat. i'm dead serious.
on that notw:
>I'm a looser and I listen to Spice Girls. which one do you like? i hope not the redhead. she's MINE!
anyone catch bowie on conan? i wanna know how it was.
later, pantysniffers. ytsegoon
************************************************************************** david y. kobayashi thrak75@aol.com
"everybody loves you when you're bi- looking at the girls and laughing with the guys...." -c. glover **************************************************************************
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 97 9:49:31 EDT From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: re: neo-classical guitar / 80s Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+6HYknA@tcx.tcco.com>
>One of my favorites neo-classical albums is Jason Becker's "Perpetual Burn"<
Ah...one of the classics. I loved the music that came out in the 80s ( NO NO, not the glam stuff). We had Malmsteen, Marty Friedman/Jason Becker, Vinny Moore, Racer X/Paul Gilbert, Tony MacAlpine... These guys were actually playing gigs in rock clubs!!! Now the only way to see them is at a guitar clinic.
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 97 07:49:07 PST8 From: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM To: metalblade@arastar.com, ytsejam@ax.com, progress@ezekiel.enteract.com Subject: Fates Warning - U.S. Tour Dates Message-ID: <9706088683.AA868373665@CCGATE.HAC.COM>
These are the latest Fates Warning tour dates (some remain unconfirmed so check with your local venues): 1997 U.S. Tour Dates (As of July 7, 1997):
07/24 Corona,California Showcase Theater 07/25 Lakewood,California Northern Lites 07/27 Phoenix,Arizona Mason Jar 07/29 Lubbock,Texas Palladian Live 07/31 San Antonio,Texas White Rabbit 08/01 Houston,Texas The Abyss 08/02 Fort Worth,Texas Caravan Of Dreams 08/07 Philadelphia,PA Trocadero 08/08 West Springfield,VA Jaxx Nite Club 08/13 Columbus,Ohio Alrosa Villa 08/15 Cleveland,Ohio ???
Keep checking the web site for updates! --
~Michael Kizer -- Computer Sciences Corporation (Tucson, AZ) Email: mrkizer@ccgate.hac.com / mkizer@goodnet.com / fugazi@weirdness.com URL: http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer Fates Warning (Island in the Stream) & Dream Theater ("Unofficial" Song Book) *** Sola sapientia est qui me in merda posuit ***
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 10:57:56 -0400 (EDT) From: DragynLMC3@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Rush Chronicle Message-ID: <970708105750_-1642413329@emout10.mail.aol.com>
WHOA! holy that was long.... I had no idea id get this kind of responce when i asked for suggestions... kewl! ;}
~Lisa
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 11:03:01 -0400 From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Moods, Rush Message-ID: <199707081502.AA18942@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hello, Another boring day at work. I get to read document scanner user manuals today though! No boring insurance stuff, just boring computer stuff.
>Subject: Mood Songs
First off: SDV was an excellent choice. Always does the same for me. You should invest in the following albums: Miles Davis, Sketches of Spain; Soundtracks to Braveheart and Blade Runner; Peter Gabriel, Us; Rush, Presto; Joe Satriani, Joe Satriani; Megadeth, So Far, So Good, So What; and Chris Isaak, Forever Blue. And the Gn'R song Estranged always gets me. Okay, so you're saying: who the fuck is this guy and what is he talking about? Well these albums each have songs that reflect various moods of mine, mostly based on the despair for loss of female accompaniment (okay, getting dumped). Forever Blue does it for me every time. It has some of the best songs I have ever heard. And listening to Sketches while sitting on Lake Champlain reading A Passage to India is about as existential as life gets... For me at least. But these are albums that when I'm in a bad mood, keep me there. I like to wallow, thanks... From Merlo: >::duck::
Now, now... I would never throw anything at you Chris. Stand up straight sir and take your beating like a man! :)
>just remember that there are three distinct periods of Rush music
I'm a four period believer myself: Rush-2112, AFTK-MP, Signals-Presto, RTB-T4E. Everyone else has gone through the reasons. Just thought I'd chip in. Short and sweet. Quite unlike yesterday. But I'll be posting again. Oh, and add Hercules to your list of movies to see. It was better than Men in Black, but not as good as Face/Off. Oh, and Batman sucked, but I guess you all knew that. -- ______________________________________________________________ "Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter..." -Yoda, the Jedi Master ______________________________________________________________ Andrew Forcier a.k.a. Buck Stodgers Maintainer of the List of Ytse-Traders of Repute; To submit names or request a copy, mailto:andrew.forcier@prudential.com To view the list: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ytselist.txt -------------------------------------------------------------- --List Manager-- The Peppermint Tribe, the Saigon Kick Mailing List For info, check out: http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~rfm5570/ for e-mail inquiries, mailto:andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com **************************************************************
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 11:14:04 -0400 From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Mood Songs Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970708111404.00e389f0@pophost.fore.com>
>Savatage: Chance >Savatage: Follow Me >Dream Theater: Only a Matter of Time >Garth Brooks: Unanswered Prayers >Joe Satriani: I Believe >Any song by Eric Johnson, Nouveaux, or Tom Booth > >..and last but not least: >Dyers' Eve by Metallica :)
When I was in high school, anytime I got pissed at my parents, I would blare Fight Fire With Fire because it is an awesome song to be angry by, and I figured it was annoying to them. Wow...the memories. Only about 10 years until my daughters are slamming their door, screaming 'I hate you', and blaring the stereo. I wonder what song it'll be in 2007?
KAI
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 10:53:17 -0700 From: caber1@concentric.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FiI stolen; Marillion used to suck, now they're mainstream; guitarists pass the torch to the animals... Message-ID: <33C27E8C.6D33@concentric.net>
Hi everyone who isn't skimming,
> From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> > Subject: Hi all... > I got news on Ytsecon-IV. Whoever wants to plan it, e-mail me for > details. I found a way to get at least Mike Portnoy and Derek Sherinian to > show up, and possibly the whole band, and all it will take is careful > planning.
Let me guess you're somehow got hold of the new CD, and, you're using it to lure them in, right? ;) ___
It's kind of funny everytime Marillion is said to be terrible or "they sukz" no one really defends them(except for Itchy that is). And now with the mood music thread everyone is naming Marillion's Brave. Jeez, funny how the situation changes... ___
Who else here loves it when there is a thread about guitarists. I'm not even a guitarist but this Ron Thal and other shredders is fun...And I was reading a.m.d-t awhile ago, and a couple of people(they sounded like they knew what they were talking about but I'm no drummer) said that Portnoy is good but not a the level of Gene Holgan, and some jazz drummers that I've never heard of before were even better. I just wanted to know what you drum-heads thought.
"I was on my way to the docter with rear end trouble, when my universal joint gave way causing me to have an accident." Accident Reports from Insurance Forms
John McCabe caber1@concentric.net
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:41:10 -0600 From: "KorgX3" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Rush Recommendations Message-ID: <199707081544.IAA22402@odin.ax.com>
> I don't agree. I would listen to "Counterparts" or "Roll the bones" all >of the new stuff is easier to get into if you are a "novice" Rush listener. > I am into all of it, but I would recommend these two albums to the "new" >listener. > Rock on! J
I remember making the huge mistake of trying to get into Rush through Moving Pictures. I mean, it was cool, but not the kind of thing I could just jump right into. When I bought Counterparts, though, I listened to it for about 3 days straight uninterupted, but my friend still couldn't get into them. When I bought Hold Your Fire, he borrowed it from me and I waspissed cuz I didn't see it for weeks. :( Anyway, Presto is not the album to get started on, in fact, I think it's my least favorite. Better to start with Counterparts or Hold Your Fire. They're the most accessible, IMO. Roll the Bones is a good one, too, tho. :) Screw it, buy em all!
>the new Enchant CD (I'm shocked that I haven't >stumbled across any comments on them yet....),
New Enchant.... Best album of the year so far. I just wish I could find a place to order "Time Lost" from. I crave more. I just think Enchant is one of the most creative and talented bands to come along since Dream Theater. For anyone who hasn't checked them out yet, just imagine Marillion and Rush jamming together. Excellent (beyond excellent) drummer, killer singer, awesome guitarist, plenty of keyboards, the bass player like to surprise you. :) Just buy it. :)
And if someone would PLEASE let me know where I can find "Time Lost" I would be most grateful. :D
"Sometimes you feel like a nad, sometimes you don't..." KorgX3 KorgX3@cyberhighway.net
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:56:00 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Glowy things Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970708113550.2504O-100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: "DJW" <DJW_at_NEON@smtpgate.walker.com> > Subject: Stuff > > On to said music - pick-me-up-songs, only one word needed here > "Surrounded" - you just can't listen to it without feeling, well, that > certain glowy DT thing (please don't vomit - I'm trying to be > serious).
I'm with ya. I get that during those harmonies in To Live Forever. (Have I said this before?)
> Lastly - 23 September sounds good but presumably that's the US > release date - does anyone know about the European release date (OK, > I'll be honest - I don't give a toss about the European release date > as such - it's the UK one I want to know about).
All Mike said was September 23rd. He didn't say Europe or UK or whatever.
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> From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> > Subject: replies to past digests... > > On the Rush/eras topic:
I agree, but you have like 10 eras there. :) I was trying to be more general, but still define some areas of cohesiveness.
I think it's safe to say we really like Rush, and that's about where the agreement ends. :)
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> From: Nick Giannotti <N.Giannotti@COMEQUITY.COM> > Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 2714 > > If I want to STAY depressed, the only thing that'll do it for me is
I just don't get this. If I'm depressed, the last thing I want to do is *stay* depressed. Quite frankly, no one I've dated is worth that much time. And if it isn't a woman thing, it's some sort of real life business, where staying depressed doesn't even hold a possibility of making things better. I'd rather get back up on my horse and face the day. But I guess that's just me.
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> From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Dragon & Wacky > > And by what standard does one determine a "penis-length?" I've heard that > if a man makes a "gun" shape with his hand (bangbang!), it's the distance > from the tip of his index finger to the tip of his thumb. This theory
No way! Mine's *much* shorter than - um, I mean... <sweat> <gasp> ...
> The safest sex I'll get is sex with lesbians? No wonder I'm so unhappy. > > "Single heterosexual male seeks paprika-flavored lesbian couple for the > safest sex around next to abstinence. Must be willing to consume large > amounts of Fruitopia."
That's why it's so safe. It never happens. :)
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