YTSEJAM Digest 2734
Today's Topics:
1) Noses...
by zarnoff069@juno.com (Mike Potvin)
2) Re: Mikey Angelo
by WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca>
3) Vito Bratta and stuff
by Anthony LaSorsa <dtgnr@nh.ultranet.com>
4) WTF?
by george.farber@juno.com (George Farber)
5) Re: Return of The Imposter
by Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
6) Re: Neal Schon
by Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
7) Keep up the good content.
by Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
8) [Fwd: FW: Testing]
by ERIK STEARNS <stearns@realtime.net>
9) Falling Into My Infiniti (tm)
by Laussade@aol.com
10) Brazilian TV Broadcasting DT
by Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com>
11) You have the right to change time sigs...
by "KorgX3" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net>
12) Portnoy speaks, QR stuff?
by Jay Omega <jw@winternet.com>
13) JP's gee-tars...
by Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
14) NDTC.. wow, i actually posted somethin....aint cha proud...
by the-atman@juno.com (d a v)
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 19:33:31 EDT
From: zarnoff069@juno.com (Mike Potvin)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Noses...
Message-ID: <19970616.122244.4319.4.zarnoff069@juno.com>
>Yeah. The real test is thumb to pinky, hand stretched...I can reach a
12th
>interval on a piano. Also...you know what they say about guys with big
>noses
><nudge nudge>
>
>..they've got lotsa boogers!
what if you have a big nose and it doesn't have any boogers, what then?
Anyway I have very large feet. And you KNOW what they say about men with
larger feet...
They wear big shoes...
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 18:56:39 -0500
From: WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Mikey Angelo
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970710185639.0069b210@mail.autobahn.mb.ca>
> Chris P. knows what I mean (anyone else there?)..I met him at the Hard
>Rock party the night before (the night in which all was right with the
>world and shred was the most common denominator!) and he was real cool
>to talk to, although he should wear a baseball hat instead of wearing
>that dead raccoon on his head.
>
I met him in Vancouver about the time Nitro released H.W.D.W.S. (Hot, Wet,
Drippin' With Sweat) and he was really cool and funny. So, he's still got
that funky hairstyle?
> I've heard his latest "Planet Gemini" is so-so, but his first one "No
>Boundaries" is wall-to-wall shred...it can be a bit overbearing but
>thats why I like the guy so much..he totally stole the show when he came
>on stage with his plastic pants and just shredded his ass off!
>
Haven't heard Planet Gemini, but No Boundaries was a great shred album
indeed. He's incredibly fast, and without a doubt, the fastest in the
world. It might be more easily accessible to the mainstream listening
audience if it were slowed down to the speed of say, Yngwie Malmsteen.
Five Gratuitous CD's:
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1. Savatage - The Dungeons Are Calling
2. Quiet Riot - The Randy Rhoads Years
3. Dream Theater - The 1986 Demos
4. Ozzy Osbourne - Bark At The Moon
5. Rush - All The World's A Stage
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I swear on tomorrow if you take this chance
Our lives are this moment; the music, the dance
And here in this labyrinth of lost mysteries
I close my eyes on this night and you're all that I see
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:17:44 -0400
From: Anthony LaSorsa <dtgnr@nh.ultranet.com>
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Vito Bratta and stuff
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970710201744.0079e7e0@nh.ultranet.com>
Hello all. I've been feverishly trying to keep up with the jams that come
in, but as soon as I read one, another is in waiting...Oh well. If this
subject is overhashed already, I apologize, but I wanted to give my
thoughts on this guitarists thread. I wrote to a couple of the people
about their Vito Bratta. I think that Vito is and/or was a great
guitarist. Even though he was in a band that was labeled super80's glam
metal, they (White Lion) could really play their instruments and play them
well. I've heard about Warrant supposedly not really playing on the first
record and about how Motley Crue used to lip sync concerts cuz they were
too drunk and out of it. These guys were really valid musicians that
excelled, but got grouped into the stereotype. They were an 80's band, but
they could play really well as most of you know. As far as Vito goes, I'd
be very surprised to hear that his solos were awful live from either the
Big Game or Mane Attraction eras. I have a live video from before Pride
went mainstream in 87 and Vito's solos were a little weak. Bends were off
and all, but I think he must have gotten better. I have another couple of
videos with clips of him playing his Mane Attraction stuff and it is a
sight to behold. I think it was just inexperience and pressure to live up
to what he put on record. He played many a show to get where he is, or
was...whatever. I guess I'm done going on. Does anyone know what the boys
from White Lion are up to now. I know Mike Tramp had his Freak of Nature
thing (which i love too), but that is now disbanded. James Lomenzo played
with Zakk Wylde on a couple of records, but D'Angelo, I haven't heard too
much about. What is Greg up to? I haven't heard a peep out of Vito since
he disappeared back in 91 with White Lion. He's probably in a ditch
somewhere in Brooklyn...who knows? :P
Tony
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:21:56 EDT
From: george.farber@juno.com (George Farber)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: WTF?
Message-ID: <19970616.131135.7535.0.george.farber@juno.com>
I hate stuff...it sucks...
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:23:05 -0400
From: Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Return of The Imposter
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970710202305.006cb2e8@mail.ee.net>
At 03:47 PM 7/10/97 -0700>> Bafu Vai uttered:
>
<snip>
Imposter #1 is a complete "looser" who can't even successfully
pose as -D.
Imposter #2 is a funny goofball who does a perfect impression
of Bafu Vai ???????????
Does anyone really think its the same person?
Hasn't anyone caught this? Are you all completely blind to
writing styles?
If you still don't get it-
Imposter #2 IS BAFU VAI. He's the imposter of the imposter who
has succeeded in getting the jam to hate the imposter and to
ignore all posts from wee.wee.
Sort of a more subtle rendition of Y&J Parts 1,2,3 (original).
Jam-deprecating humor at its finest.
How many silent, but otherwise intelligent, jammers are participating
in this conspiracy by giving Bafu the ability to do the dancing
MESSAGE IDs?
I salute you Bafu, and promise not to plagiarize this time.
Your Shadow
Joe
jkruger@ee.net
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:34:22 -0400
From: Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Neal Schon
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970710203422.006cd5d0@mail.ee.net>
At 08:18 PM 7/8/97 -0700, Richard Warren <rwarren@memphisonline.com>
wrote:
>Are you serious? Neal Schon? I mean I liked Journey when I was in high
>school but, really? I guess I have heard just about everything he has
>released and my feeling is he is a perfect example of an average guitar
>player becoming a huge star. Mostly pentatonic, not very exciting. His
>fast passages are extremely sloppy. Can you honestly compare anything he
>has written to Learning to Live, A Change of Seasons, Metropolis, etc.? I
>sure can't.
>
>I might believe Rothery but Schon......no way!!!
>
Yeah. And the drummer...Steve Smith. All he played was that simple
mono-rhythmic 4/4 crap. They could have hired me to play his stuff.
Good thing nobody thinks he's a good drummer. Obviously, from playing
in Journey, he must really suck or something. (All of this is sarcasm.)
By the way, Neal's newest album is:
Electric World
on Higher Octave Records
its 2 CD
it will be out on July 15.
Look for it in the Jazz section of your record store where they
put all the crap from no-good talentless musicians.
His other most-recent release is Abraxas Pool a semi-reunion of
part of the original Santana bands (65-73 era). It can be found
in the Popular or Rock sections for some reason. It is not prog.
It is not metal. Yet, somehow its good...for those of you who
believe that is possible, I recommend it.
I think I'll start ripping off Adam now that Bafu has exceeded
my lowly abilities:
Gratuitous 5 CDs for Today:
1. Amorphis - Elegy
2. The Essence of Al Dimeola
3. Joe Stump - Supersonic Shred Machine
4. Divine Regale - Ocean Mind
5. Hugo - Hugo
Joe
jkruger@ee.net
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:43:55 -0400
From: Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Keep up the good content.
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970710204355.006d085c@mail.ee.net>
I promise I'll stop posting now.
This is why I'm on the Jam:
1.
> The final dates for the Fish tour of USA and Canada are as follows :
> August 12 Columbus,OH Ludlow's Mastermind
>
2.
>These are the latest Fates Warning tour dates (some remain unconfirmed so
check
>with your local venues):
>1997 U.S. Tour Dates (As of July 7, 1997):
>08/13 Columbus,Ohio Alrosa Villa
Opening act is Saddleback Shark (featuring the fine guitar work of
Columbus, OH native Rob Johnson.) You guitar heads need to check him
out as well. (I know you already did Chris P.) Another local band is
opening. Why can't Metal Blade send Divine Regale on tour with Fates?
Guess you'll know where to find me on August 12&13.
3.
>From: "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
>Subject: For Guitarists - and anyone else who appreciates guitar! (long)
Great post and great follow-ups.
Keep up the good work.
Joe
jkruger@ee.net
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 19:52:24 -0500
From: ERIK STEARNS <stearns@realtime.net>
To: artbell@aol.com, Bruno Lartigue <geyk18c@prodigy.com>,
Subject: [Fwd: FW: Testing]
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Here is a little something for the intellect! Give it a shot and send the answers back to me.
1. A snail is at the bottom of a well 30 feet deep. It can crawl upward 3 feet in one day, but at night (being the slimy bastard that he is) it slips back 2 feet. How many days does it take the snail to crawl out of the well?
2. There are 2 jars of equal capacity. The first jar there is one amoeba. In the second jar there are two amoebas. An amoeba can reproduce itself in the three minutes. It takes the two amoebas in the jar three hours to fill the jar to capacity. How many minutes does it take the one amoeba in the first jar to fill that jar to capacity?
3. A ship is at anchor. Over its side hangs a rope ladder with rungs a foot apart. The tide rises at the rate of 8 inches per hour. At the end of six hours, how many feet of the rope ladder will remain above water, assuming that 8 feet were above water when the tide began to rise?
4. A race driver drove around a 6 mile track at 140 mph for three miles, 168 mph for 1 1/2 miles, and 210 mph for 1 1/2 miles. What was his average speed for the entire 6 miles?
5. If you get this one, I want to know how! With my logic, I almost got it.... Each day a man's wife meets him at the railroad station and drives him home. One day he arrives at the station an hour early and begins to walk home along the road his wife always takes. She meets him en route and takes him the rest of the way home. Had he waited at the station, she would have picked him up exactly on time. As it turned out, he reached his home twenty minutes early. How many minutes did the man walk?
6. How many times does the digit 9 appear from 1 to 100?
7. A genious came to a narrow railroad bridge and began to run across it. He had crossed three eighths of the distance when a whistle behind him warned of an approaching train. Being a genious, he instantly evaluated his alternatives. If he were to run back to the beginning of the bridge at his speed of 10 mph, he would leave the bridge at precisely the moment the train entered it. If he kept running to the end of the bridge, the train would reach him just as he left the bridge. At what speed was the train moving? a) 35 mph b)40 mph c)45 mph d) 50 mph
8.C, G, Q are to F, V, R as T, X, H are to a) V, L, G b) B, F, Y c) W, M, I d) N, Z, D
9 Complete the series: 2-4, 6-18 a). 8-24 b). 8-32 c). 10-40 d). 20-60 e). 21-84
10. Which one does not belong? a). dada b). abstract c). cubist d). dodecaphonic e). pointillist I got this one right!
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:57:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Laussade@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Falling Into My Infiniti (tm) Message-ID: <970710205706_275396163@emout05.mail.aol.com>
to put it simply, I don't like it. With a title like that I expect to see hobbits and dwarfs and things standing on mist-covered mountains looking expectantly to some wrinkled old man wearing a travel-worn cape etc. etc. ******** No kidding. They should have called it "Prog Sucks" just to piss off all the militant prog fans. And the cover could consist of a Roger Dean painting with lots of phallus-related graffiti all over it. I'd pay good money to see that.
Ben
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 04:48:10 -0300 From: Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com> To: Freaks R Us <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Brazilian TV Broadcasting DT Message-ID: <33C09F3A.61E64327@geocities.com>
Hi there jammanoids!
I've seen much talk in the last jams about the broadcast of the Monsters of Rock here in Brazil... I must say that, well, the quality of the shows broadcasted are really disappointing (the TV network doesn't even transmit then in stereo)... In the first MoR (good ol' times... Black Sabbath, Suicidal Tendencies, Angra...), MTV did the broadcast, and they put up all the shows (incredible, huh?), and the quality was pretty good. But, the next two MoR really did let me down... I saw Therapy?'s, Megadeth's (from the 2nd edition) and Maiden's shows on TV (this last from last year's), and I must say that they were really disapointing... I did not see the 2nd MoR live, but I saw the last one, and it was much better (actually, it was kinda boring on TV). Ah, and something I was almost forgetting: probably DT won't be one of the headliners, so, expect a very short show, and a way more shorter broadcast... The same w/ Angra. O'course it'd be cool to have them taped, but don't expect too much.
About Rogerio's talk about Sepultura's "Ratamahatta" (sp?), a few jams ago (btw, we can notice it's summer vacation up there... I get something like 8 jams a day!!!): believe it or not, I've never even heard the whole song. Neither seen the video. But, as music dows not seem to count much in the VMA, the video seems kinda cool...
-- []'s /**********************************************\ |* Marcelo Vanzin *| |* vanzin@geocities.com *| |* http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/ *| \**********************************************/
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 19:52:08 -0600 From: "KorgX3" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: You have the right to change time sigs... Message-ID: <199707110154.SAA01843@odin.ax.com>
>1. The fact that you like prog does not make you cool. >2. The fact that you like prog does not mean you have to dislike alternative. >3. The fact that you like prog does not mean alternative sucks. >4. The fact that you like or dislike something does not mean everybody else >does/n't
heheh Sounds like the Miranda rule for prog rockers. :) I can just imagine a cop pulling me over and yelling this in my face. heheh
Let's embellish it a bit... 1. The fact that you like prog does not make any difference to those millions of starving children that need your care and support. 2. The fact that you like prog does not make the Hutus and the Tutsis friendly toward each other, nor the star-bellied sneetches toward those without.
We oughtta just come up with a huge list of these. : ) KorgX3 KorgX3@cyberhighway.net
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 21:02:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Jay Omega <jw@winternet.com> To: Just Words <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Portnoy speaks, QR stuff? Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970710204856.26663A-100000@parka.winternet.com>
> From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu> > (Actually from Mike Portnoy) > 2) It's not 100% for sure, but it looks pretty probably that the CD will > be packed to the max. (75 or so minutes)
Woohoo!
> Kevin, and even a few of the other band members, prefer shorter > albums...but we had sooo much material, it was hard enough to narrow > down the songs to record.
Thanks for keepin' 'em in line, man!
> 3) Because of the extreme length of the song (we got carried away...), > there was no way to include it on the album while still getting all of > the others included...... Because of the time available to us to get > the album done, I doubt there will be an over-abundance of time leftover > for a track of this magnitude.....
That answers the double-album question, then.
> We really do want M2 eventually released because it is so over the top, > but I honestly can't picture it happening until at least next year.
What a tease! Augh! "This song rocks, but you can't hear it yet!" That's just evil! :)
> (Maybe an EP, or imported CD single..) This is a similar dilemma to what > we had with ACOS...
Go 'jam! Make it happen again!
------ > From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
> 1. Visualize your dream. > 2. Record it in the present tense. > 3. blahblahblahblahblah form. > 4. If you persist in your efforts, > you can achieve a Dream Come True.
I always heard, "...achieve Dream Control"? Am I imagining things?
> 5. HELP ME.
Okay.
> What exactly is "conformal mapping?"
Drawing maps with north pointing up, so they conform to all the other maps out there. Unless they're really old maps, when pointing east up was the norm.
--Jay ":)" Omega --NP: Live - Throwing Copper
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 22:53:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: JP's gee-tars... Message-ID: <199707110253.WAA24553@umbc9.umbc.edu>
> > - Take Away My Pain - > > I can't really hear this tune very well on my tape of the Fix show, it's > quite distorted. But what I do remember from the concert is JP playing a > double-neck Ibanez with a 12-string and a 6-string, so it's got some > 12-string stuff on it. The chorus is very powerful and moving as everybody > else has said. I don't have much else to offer on this one...
If I remember correctly, John's doubleneck at the Fix shows sported not a 6/12 combination, but a piezo/humbucker combination. One neck was like his normal guitars <although maybe w/ only one humbucker> and one neck had no magnetic pickups and just a piezo in the bridge. The piezo half had a reverse headstock as well.
Steve Z
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 21:59:45 -0500 From: the-atman@juno.com (d a v) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NDTC.. wow, i actually posted somethin....aint cha proud... Message-ID: <19970710.215946.4670.7.the-atman@juno.com>
ok, out of my professional lurker mode for a minute...
well, as per recommendation, i picked up a cd by Leviathan the other day, not too bad, i'll give it a listen or two more....seems pretty cool though....i think my intial prob with it was that i'm in the mood for DT...... so i doubt if anything will sooth.....
picked up Savatage today, Dead Winter Dead....i'm bout half way through it....cool stuff, i love rock opera's just too cool takes loads of talent now don't it.....
and also as per everyone's advice, i have Enchant's Wonderous??? or whatever on order....hope it'll do....
so anyways, who are Angra, Merillion, i dunno, who else??? i need more stuff, just that i have to buy it sssssllowwwwlllyyyyy ya know??? what are these bands like and please relate them to DT mellower, harder....or what, i know mainstream bands not some of these fringe bands.....give me time....
damn, still gotta wait....september is so far off damn damn damn
later,
dave-i'm knocking the cobwebs outta my mind with this stuff....only to find one helluva void.....
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