YTSEJAM digest 2735

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Fri Jul 11 1997 - 03:12:36 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 2735

    Today's Topics:

      1) Stu, some Shrapnel guys... (NDTC)
     by "Mike Patrick" <mepatrick@iquest.net>
      2) Math Content on the 'jam: Conformal Mapping
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
      3) Re: Portnoy speaks, QR stuff?
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
      4) Primus/Laundry
     by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
      5) Brain Teasers
     by The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
      6) Steve Smith
     by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
      7) curiosity.
     by the-atman@juno.com (d a v)
      8) Well well well... CDs a crankin'
     by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
      9) Re: Brain Teasers
     by "KorgX3" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net>
     10) Re: Brain Teasers
     by Bill Nottingham <wen2@po.cwru.edu>
     11)
     by impostor@wee.wee
     12) Silent Lucidity Voice Says...
     by bogie@MIT.EDU

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    Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 18:23:45 -0500
    From: "Mike Patrick" <mepatrick@iquest.net>
    To: "DT" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Stu, some Shrapnel guys... (NDTC)
    Message-ID: <199707110319.UAA03277@odin.ax.com>

    >Five Gratuitous CD's:
    >=====================
    >3. Stu Hamm: Kings of Sleep

    Hey, I need to second this, especially since so many on this list have now
    had exposure to him thanks to G3 and the other Satriani tours. What a
    remarkable album, which also features Harry K. Cody (who used to be in
    Shotgun Messiah) who is absolutely a brilliant guitarist. Does anyone
    happen to know what he's doing now? Shotgun Messiah never really caught
    on, and then they kind of changed into a psuedo-industrial band and then
    they were gone. But where's Harry?

    >Michael Lee Firkins

    After I bought his first album, I swore I'd buy everything else he ever
    did, a promise that I've yet to keep. I've got to get with it. I think he
    was held up by Shrapnel as their first non-neoclassical hotshot, and he
    came through for them in a major way. If you could mix Chet Atkins and any
    wildly talented metal player, that's Firkins. And the stuff he can do
    without using a slide makes my skin crawl.

    On the whole, I used to buy Shrapnel releases (at least earlier ones) more
    for the supporting players than for the 'star'. I mean, the first Greg
    Howe album has Billy Sheehan on bass, and the first Richie Kotzen has
    STU!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good God, could Mike Varney line up the big guns.

    Mike Patrick, CLP
    InfoTech Consulting, Inc.
    Indianapolis, IN
    mepatrick@iquest.net

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    Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 00:32:40 -0300 (EST)
    From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Math Content on the 'jam: Conformal Mapping
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95q.970711002702.678A-100000@ant116.cce.usp.br>

    On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, S. Borzilleri wrote:

    > What exactly is "conformal mapping?"
    >
    >
    > Bafu Vai

            I don't know for sure, since I have never studied any kind of
    Mathematica Analysis, but it is a kind of transformation between euclidean
    spaces that preserves the inner product (or multiples of it). I know that
    when you are dealing with functions from R^2 to R^2, the conformal
    mappings are exactly the same as analytic functions (they preserve
    angles).

            Is this garbage what you wanted to know? :-)

            Mathematical []s, Roger...

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    Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 00:50:30 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Portnoy speaks, QR stuff? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95q.970711004145.691A-100000@ant116.cce.usp.br>

    On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Jay Omega wrote:

    > [Mike Portnoy Responses to some FAQ] > > Kevin, and even a few of the other band members, prefer shorter > > albums...but we had sooo much material, it was hard enough to narrow > > down the songs to record. > > Thanks for keepin' 'em in line, man!

    I can't believe. I think that Labrie is living in another time. Why, let me repeat, *WHY* would the band not release a long album??

    > > 3) Because of the extreme length of the song (we got carried away...), > > there was no way to include it on the album while still getting all of > > the others included...... Because of the time available to us to get > > the album done, I doubt there will be an over-abundance of time leftover > > for a track of this magnitude..... > > That answers the double-album question, then.

    Which is the length of Metropolis pt. II?? Is it the 22 minutes song as I've heard?? Or not? But I'd really love a long song... :-)

    > > (Maybe an EP, or imported CD single..) This is a similar dilemma to what > > we had with ACOS... > > Go 'jam! Make it happen again!

    Well, if Metropolis pt. 2 ended being an imported CD single, things would be like the Lie or The Silent Man single. In other words, a lot of die-hard fans would not have the item. :-(

    > > What exactly is "conformal mapping?" > > Drawing maps with north pointing up, so they conform to all > the other maps out there. Unless they're really old maps, > when pointing east up was the norm.

    I have a completely different explanation to this expression... :-) See the other jams... :-)

    []s, Roger...

    -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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    Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 23:07:52 -0400 From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Primus/Laundry Message-ID: <19970711031146.AAA2496@sni.pananet.com>

    : From: Laussade@aol.com : To: ytsejam@ax.com : Subject: Yowza! OOOOH! OOOOOOOH! : : Bottom line is...you're a poser. : : 1. The fact that you like prog does not make you cool.

    Amen brother! I was about to write something along the same lines, but you got to it first.:)

    And speaking of Primus, has anybody heard Herb's new band, Laundry? It's supposed to have a Crimson-ish influence (or so I have been told), and I'd like to hear some opinions on it...

    sailing the seas of cheese, Ernie

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    Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 00:51:02 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Brain Teasers Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970711003302.1172A-100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>

    I love brain teasers, and I hadn't seen most of these before, which means I could have fun figuring them out. Thanks, Erik, for the diversions.

    IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THE ANSWERS, DON'T KEEP READING. (Should I put a spoiler warning here? :)

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    > From: ERIK STEARNS <stearns@realtime.net> > Subject: [Fwd: FW: Testing] > > 1. A snail is at the bottom of a well 30 feet deep. It can crawl upward 3 > feet in one day, but at night (being the slimy bastard that he is) it slips > back 2 feet. How many days does it take the snail to crawl out of the well?

    The answer is 28 days. On the 27th day, the snail starts at 26 feet up, climbs to 29 feet up, and slips down to 27 feet up. On the 28th day, the snail starts at 27 feet up, climbs to 30 feet up, and gets out of the hole.

    > 2. There are 2 jars of equal capacity. The first jar there is one amoeba. > In the second jar there are two amoebas. An amoeba can reproduce itself in > the three minutes. It takes the two amoebas in the jar three hours to fill > the jar to capacity. How many minutes does it take the one amoeba in the > first jar to fill that jar to capacity?

    Three hours and three minutes. It takes the single amoeba three minutes to become two amoebas. And we already know how long it takes two amoebas to fill the jar to capacity - an additional three hours.

    > 3. A ship is at anchor. Over its side hangs a rope ladder with rungs a foot > apart. The tide rises at the rate of 8 inches per hour. At the end of six > hours, how many feet of the rope ladder will remain above water, assuming > that 8 feet were above water when the tide began to rise?

    I'm not sure of this one, but it sure seems like a trick question. I'm going to say 8 feet, because the tide has to go back down sometime. I just don't remember when that is, so this is rather likely to be really wrong.

    > 4. A race driver drove around a 6 mile track at 140 mph for three miles, 168 > mph for 1 1/2 miles, and 210 mph for 1 1/2 miles. What was his average > speed for the entire 6 miles?

    Unless I missed something really obvious, it's 164.5 mph.

    > 5. If you get this one, I want to know how! With my logic, I almost got > it.... > Each day a man's wife meets him at the railroad station and drives him home. > One day he arrives at the station an hour early and begins to walk home > along the road his wife always takes. She meets him en route and takes him > the rest of the way home. Had he waited at the station, she would have > picked him up exactly on time. As it turned out, he reached his home twenty > minutes early. How many minutes did the man walk?

    ARGH! The one I didn't get. :(

    > 6. How many times does the digit 9 appear from 1 to 100?

    20. An easy question to get wrong if you answer too quickly.

    > 7. A genious came to a narrow railroad bridge and began to run across it. > He had crossed three eighths of the distance when a whistle behind him > warned of an approaching train. Being a genious, he instantly evaluated his > alternatives. If he were to run back to the beginning of the bridge at his > speed of 10 mph, he would leave the bridge at precisely the moment the train > entered it. If he kept running to the end of the bridge, the train would > reach him just as he left the bridge. At what speed was the train moving?

    This one's tricky. It takes a lot of alternate thinking. If the genius can get back to the beginning of the bridge just as the train gets there, then it stands to reason that he can also get to 6/8 of the way across at the same time (because it's the same distance.) Now, the genius could get from 3/8 across to all the way across just when the train would get across. Let's say he/she does this. Once the genius is 6/8 of the way across, the train is at the start of the bridge. So, the genius is going to cover 2/8 of the bridge in the same amount of time as the train is going to cover the whole bridge. Therefore, the train's speed is four times that of the genius, or...

    > b)40 mph > > 8.C, G, Q are to F, V, R as T, X, H are to

    This one's designed for math people. For those of you that don't know what a mathematical ring is, imagine a regular analog clock. Now imagine that instead of the numbers 1-12, it has the letters A-Z, all evenly spaced. In time, adding 1 to 12 gives you 1 again. On this clock, adding 1 to Z gives you A. So, to get from C to F is the same amount of distance as getting from T to W, and so forth, so the answer is...

    > c) W, M, I > > 9 Complete the series: 2-4, 6-18

    This one's a Mike Bahr-ism in a mutated form. :) To get from the first element of one set to the second element of the same set, multiply by x. To get from the second element of the first set to the first element of the second set, add x. Now, increment x and do it again. So, 2*2 = 4, 4+2 = 6, 6*3 = 18, 18+3 = 21, 21*4 = 84, and...

    > e). 21-84 > > 10. Which one does not belong? > a). dada > b). abstract > c). cubist > d). dodecaphonic > e). pointillist

    a,b,c, and e are all types of (visual) art. Dodecaphonic means (literally) twelve sounds.

    If anyone gets that #5, let's see it! :)

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    You can start reading again. -d

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary & Webmaster cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html

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    Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 22:09:12 -0700 From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Steve Smith Message-ID: <v01520d03afeb6f130301@[205.134.227.235]>

    Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net> wrote:

    >Yeah. And the drummer...Steve Smith. All he played was that simple >mono-rhythmic 4/4 crap. They could have hired me to play his stuff. >Good thing nobody thinks he's a good drummer. Obviously, from playing >in Journey, he must really suck or something. (All of this is sarcasm.)

    Ahh....you better hear Steve Smith & Brian Melvin played "Night of the living drum" show in SF. He showed his jazz drumming that was incredible to see how good he could play.

    Brian Melvin is the ex-drummer of Jaco Pastorius band. He's currently into the electronic stuff.

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    Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 00:01:38 -0500 From: the-atman@juno.com (d a v) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: curiosity. Message-ID: <19970711.000138.4670.12.the-atman@juno.com>

    ok, so according to D-man, thanks by the way, there are three lists for DT. our beloved jam here, voices, and metropolis? is metropolis still alive??? i tried to sub to it when i jumped on this one but to no avail....... hey, we need some more video released....i've got the japan one...but i think there should be another one due out sometime soon??? later on gang... dave.

    Dig deeper into your soul. There you will find humanity.

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    Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 22:36:21 -0700 (MST) From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Well well well... CDs a crankin' Message-ID: <199707110536.WAA04627@goodnet.com>

    Well, now that I have electricity and am not living in the stone age anymore, I just wanted to brag to the Jam that I created 26 CDs today. 13 hours of work!! And _that_ ain't too shabby. Especially because while a CD is a-burnin' and a Prog Video Montage is a-copyin', ain't much else to do but play Mario Kart 64. :)

    OK wee-wee man... Michael... you can cut it out now. It was funny the first time, not so funny the second time, and there shouldn't be a third time.

    Songs of the week... King's X "Fool You" Queensryche "Some People Fly" Adam Sandler "Ode to my Car"

    - Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik

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    Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 23:38:50 -0600 From: "KorgX3" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Brain Teasers Message-ID: <199707110540.WAA04982@odin.ax.com>

    >> minutes early. How many minutes did the man walk? > >ARGH! The one I didn't get. :(

    Actually, I'd be kinda surprised if you did get it. There is no absolute distance from the train station to his home so there's no real definite solution other than an algebraic equation to solve for the distance as it is given. Had we known when his wife had left, we could come up with something. Maybe his wife likes to stop off for a drink or two on the way to picking him up, and maybe she fell asleep at the wheel. Mebbe he had to walk 90% of the way. Mebbe he lives three blocks from home... Mebbe she drove faster home today than any other day. Mebe aliens abducted him and he thought it was his wife coming to pick him up and they performed exotic physical experiments on him and deposited him earlier in time than they'd picked him up. Maybe his train actually did show up on time, but some quantum force pushed him back in time. Maybe it's a government conspiracy...*ACK*

    ***Attention all planets of the Solar Confederation*** ***************We have assumed control***************

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    Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 01:58:13 -0400 From: Bill Nottingham <wen2@po.cwru.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Brain Teasers Message-ID: <19970711015813.37243@b62772.cwru.edu>

    The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu> wrote: > I love brain teasers, and I hadn't seen most of these before, which means > I could have fun figuring them out. Thanks, Erik, for the diversions. > > IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THE ANSWERS, DON'T KEEP READING. (Should I put a > spoiler warning here? :) > > ************************ > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. If you get this one, I want to know how! With my logic, I almost got > > it.... > > Each day a man's wife meets him at the railroad station and drives him home. > > One day he arrives at the station an hour early and begins to walk home > > along the road his wife always takes. She meets him en route and takes him > > the rest of the way home. Had he waited at the station, she would have > > picked him up exactly on time. As it turned out, he reached his home twenty > > minutes early. How many minutes did the man walk? > > ARGH! The one I didn't get. :( <snip> > If anyone gets that #5, let's see it! :)

    I think it's 50 minutes.

    If he arrives 20 minutes early, so does his wife. Hence, she must have saved 10 minutes on each leg of the trip. Therefore, the point where she picked him up was ten minutes before the train was supposed to get there, so he walked for 50 minutes.

    Bill

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    Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 00:29:12 -0500 From: impostor@wee.wee To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-ID: <199707110529.AAA09616@cgi.why.net>

    ----------------------- El subjecto: Spelling, Ivanhoe, Portnoy, QR's Silent Lucidity -----------------------

    [Itchy wrote] > > FUCK YOU IMPOSTER!! I AM THE REAL IMPOSTER!!! > > STOP TRYING TO BE A LOOSER LIKE ME!! > > Mr. Wee-wee... you are in *serious* need of some professional help. > Maybe Skadz can 'imposter' your ass *off* the list, because I don't > really think we need this kind of shit. Please read my sig.

    First things first. This guy doesn't even know HOW to spell impostor, let alone be one. Second of all, I never cuss or type in caps.

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    [Graham Borland wrote] > I find Ivanhoe to be DT clones, pure and simple, and bad ones at that, I > have two of their albums (got them for free) but I wouldn't part with any > cash for their CD's.

    I shelled out the dough to CDNow for their last CD, and I can't even remember the name of it it's so bad. They sound like they're trying WAAAAY too hard to be like DT, and not succeeding in any way.

    Woops, I just typed in caps. My mistake. I'm such a hootananny.

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    [Mike Portnoy wrote] > If you're in the fan club, the Gods will probably bless you around > Christmas time anyway....Most likely with pictures of D-Man's shaved butt.. > It just won't be this just yet..... Believe me, we'ree about to provide > you guys with PLENTY of music and more than you want to see of Chris!!!

    Cool man. I've always admired a band's desire to push the envelope a little farther. In this case, Dream Theater has expanded to dabbling a tad in the art field.

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    [Ben Laussade] He'th the cooletht perthon I know. And not becauth he livth in Lath Vegath.

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    [To Live Forever] Have I mentioned that all the band members play on To Live Forever?

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    [My Best Friend's Wedding] I went to see this movie tonight because I've seen everything else worthwhile. I almost puked up my esophagus the beginning of the movie was so.. so.. queer? (early 60's definition of queer, meaning strange) I don't think I've ever laughed at a movie more than during the intro, because quite frankly, I was in a room of chicks and I had no idea why I was watching this movie. But anyway, it turned out to be an OK movie.

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    [Queensryche's new album] Rumor has it it's going to be called Journey into the Bass Clef Frontier. Crazy rabbit, smokes are for drummers.

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    [Silent Lucidity] Bafu, I think it's 'you can achieve dream control'. I actually lucid dreamed for the first time three weeks ago. It lives up to everything it is in the song. It's easily the coolest thing I've ever done. The best thing is that it's while you sleep. I could totally control my dream, albeit for only 5 minutes, because I woke up due to the fact that I was so excited that I was actually lucid dreaming. The technique I used? I listened to Silent Lucidity 3 times a day for a week, and I repeated before I went to sleep, "I'm lucid dreaming, I'm lucid dreaming, etc." I did that until I fell asleep, which was relatively quick. I haven't done it since, but in the short time I did it, I flew around a bit (which is common for novices).

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    I'm off to beddy-bye.

    The Impostor That Took the Ytsejam

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    Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 02:56:29 EDT From: bogie@MIT.EDU To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Silent Lucidity Voice Says... Message-ID: <9707110656.AA12281@helpdesk3.MIT.EDU>

    Visualize your dream. Record it in the present tense. Put it into a permanent form. If you persist in all efforts, you can achieve dream control.

    Various voices heard behind this are: Don't be scared. How're we feeling there, better? Help me. Control. (not in this order...)

    Interestingly enough, the "Don't be scared" is also the same sample found in "Best I Can" where the phrase, "Don't be scared...you'll realize." is heard.

    Ryche on, Bogie

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