YTSEJAM Digest 2604
Today's Topics:
1) Blackmore's Night
by cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
2) Women singers...
by svjohnson@amoco.com
3) Re: Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz
by alex fraser <fraser@stolaf.edu>
4) Re: Sava on TV?/New disc
by WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca>
5) Lovin' you iz easy cuz you're beautiful (and other bedtime stories)
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
6) fear of a black hat
by Brbair@aol.com
7) Pink Floyd/Wizard of Oz
by cmustard@vonl.com (Mark Lampert)
8) Re: Hmm
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
9) NDTC, Pat, MFP, Fish
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2601
by Daniel Vasconcelos Gomes <danielvg@sel.eesc.sc.usp.br>
11) FNM
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
12) Re: Pink Floyd/Wizard of Oz
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
13) Silent Man single
by gsrockr@stratos.net (George Szumski)
14) G3 world tour
by "Simon Mitternacht" <rel96dim@student2.lu.se>
15) Mimes, Alanis
by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
16) NEW CD RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENT!!!
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2601
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2603
by Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
19)
by Mark Hatch-Miller <ace@onfire.net>
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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 97 15:27:14 GMT
From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List)
Subject: Blackmore's Night
Message-ID: <M.060297.172714.76@wxs5-9.worldaccess.nl>
Say...Candice Night is Blackmore's girlfriend. I suddenly remember that from
an interview I read about a year ago. I think what they said the music would be
was kindof mediaeval stuff, nothing like Rainbow. What's the music like in the
end?
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 97 08:32:03 -0500 From: svjohnson@amoco.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Women singers... Message-ID: <199706021406.AA04563@interlock.amoco.com>
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Alanis Morrisette, Debbie Gibson, Tiffany...What's the difference? Female flavor du jour. Steve
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 10:38:33 -0500 (CDT) From: alex fraser <fraser@stolaf.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970602103545.17175A-100000@lars.acc.stolaf.edu>
> I saw something on MTV News (Yes, I admit that I watch it...) about Pink > Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" being "in synch" with the movie classic, > "Wizard of Oz". Supposedly, if you start "Dark Side" right after the MGM > Lion's third roar, it is eerily in synch with the movie.
a bunch of my friends tried this the other night... it's not going to astound you, but there are some points where it's too in synch almost to be a coincidence... especially the first scene where the (soon to be) wicked witch comes in, the tornado scenes, and the entrance to Oz, (which was my favorite, as there's silence on the screen and on the disc, and then "Money" starts up... it's really cool.)
later gators, id
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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 10:54:57 -0600 From: WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Sava on TV?/New disc Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970602105457.0068991c@autobahn.mb.ca>
>Anyways, at the end, I pick up the song they were playing in the background and the music >and melody is the same as SAVATAGE's 'Heal my Soul.' The lyrics were different though. > Sorry I missed it. Savatage's writers based the music for "Heal My Soul" on a Welsh traditional tune called "Suo Gan", so it was that song in the commercial...very cool, though. Sava news from New York - the finishing touches are being put on the new album, right on schedule for an August releases date. Laterness...
=========================================================== Madness reigns in the Hall of the Mountain King ===========================================================
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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 16:13:41 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Lovin' you iz easy cuz you're beautiful (and other bedtime stories) Message-ID: <3392F135.4DAA@mailstorm.dot.gov>
Anybody hear of a group 'Dream STH' (I think that's what the DJ said)? They've been playing a new song by themon the radio a lot, and it's got a sound I can live with :) Vocals remind me of AIC, music overall is progressive, heavy and even kewl :)
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> From: Dave
> OK, well I'm sure that this post will stir up some feedback, but > what I would really like to see is James start posting in here himself.
I fairly certain that James has more important things to do with his time: picking the lint from his navel immediately comes to mind :)
Seriously, though, great post Dave! You echo the passion that a lot of DT fans feel. I applaud you for standing your ground in the Ytsetrenches.
> Until then, I'm removing Ytsejam subscription instructions from my web site.
Remember, though, the cream rises to the top. I think at this point, the 'culture of the net' is fairly well known and anyone of moderate intelligence is going to see the sludge at bottom for what it is. Do you want to deny those that have something positive to contribute? Just something to consider.
*------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------*
Practice random senselessness and act kind of beautiful.
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 13:16:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Brbair@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: fear of a black hat Message-ID: <970602131604_-1597616979@emout09.mail.aol.com>
I must agree that if you haven't seen this movie, you must rent it. Funny as shit! Fear of a Black Hat is really similar to CB4.
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 13:30:07 -0500 From: cmustard@vonl.com (Mark Lampert) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Pink Floyd/Wizard of Oz Message-ID: <19970602182612370.AAA222@cmustard.vonl.com>
Ahoy,
This is horrible. Who the hell could be so bored as to actually time the Dark Side of the Moon with Wizard of Oz so as to find a bunch of lame *coincidences*?. When I see things like that, it makes me feel superior in knowing that I have better things to do with my time.
· • Colonel Mustard • ·
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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 14:25:52 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Hmm Message-ID: <19970602.112945.8670.0.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
On Mon, 2 Jun 1997 04:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Lars Hellsten <larsh@ionsys.com> writes:
>Why don't you just come out and say it Scott? You want ME to be >banned for life, not "anyone writing things like this".
I've read a few of these, and out of all the ones I read, you seem to be the only one that seems to want to start a "My country is better than yours" thread. All the other ones talk about North America, continent or country. If you can't see the difference than I don't know what to say.
>Otherwise you would've replied to the previous dozen or so posts on the >subject. And isn't it just a little bit hypocritical to suggest that everyone >involved in this thread should be banned from the list for life, and then >go on and continue the thread in your next message?
YOU DON"T GET IT! I'm not saying that X Country is better than Y country, so I don't see where I'm continuing anything. All I'm doing is replying to your post. I don't see where replying to a post directed at me is not allowed.
Scott
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 20:31:43 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: NDTC, Pat, MFP, Fish Message-ID: <01BC6F94.CAB78900@Yamato.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
Lauren Glenn said :
> If a ytsejam is sent and there's no DTC, does anybody care?
I sure as hell don't care anymore. I just skip everything I'm not interested in... I just skipped the last twenty digests or so... Been with on this list long enough to realize that caring doesn't help shit. _____
> From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu> > Subject: In Defense of Mr. Bahr.
This is actually the first post in weeks that I read all the way through. Great post, Pat. Keep up the good work :-) _____
If anyone's interested, I just uploaded the new "Most Frequent Poster" and "Domain" list ---> http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/
Enjoy _____
I kinda "promised" this to Fish, Marillion's ex-singer, so here it goes :
FISH - SUNSETS ON EMPIRE
As some of you might know, Marillion was considered to be THE prog-band of the 80's... Their singer was Derek William Dick, better known as Fish. When Fish left Marillion in 1988, many people considered that the end of Marillion. Instead, it was the end of a prog-era... but the beginning of a new one.
Initially, both Marillion and Fish were doing just fine. Both released a great first album after the split. But after that, Fish' carreer kinda went downhill. Lots of problems with band members and record companies, etc. He also lost some (if not a lot) of fans due to his change in musical direction.
And then there was "Sunsets on Empire".
Every Fish fan seems to agree on one point: This is without a doubt his BEST album to date. Personally, I didn't expect too much from this album. But it definately is nothing less than brilliant. The lyrics and music are darker than ever before. Really great stuff ! The album is produced Steve Wilson from "Porcupine Tree" and he also plays on 9 out of 10 songs. The first track features an awesome 2 minute Steve Wilson guitar- solo. It has some prog every now and then, but I wouldn't say it is a prog album... If you are a metal head, stay away from this album too. But if you're looking for a great album, give this one a try... If you are a fan of the Fish/Marillion era, or an ex-Fish fan, DEFINATELY give this one a try ! You won't be dissappointed :-)
I kinda felt Fish lost his magic after his first solo album, but with this one, he definately regained it ! If you are a fan of Asia or Arena, you *might* be interested to know that Keith More recently joined Fish' band. He's not on the album but will be touring with him.
Btw, "Sunsets on Empire" isn't released in the US yet. Dunno when it'll be out in the US either. If you can get your paws on the limited edition, GET IT. It has a free interview CD, and really cool packaging.
Sorry for this shameless plug
Mark <back into lurk mode for another month or so> ____________________________________________________bredius@globalxs.nl__ HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THE YTSEJAM : _ _____ ___ _ _ __ __ Address: ytsejam-request@ax.com |:||_.:._|/:._]|:]_[:|\.\_/./ Subject: asdf |:| |:| (.:(_ |:___:| \_::/ Message: unsubscribe ytsejam <yourname> |_| [_] \___]|_] [_| [__/ _________________________________________________________________________ "What is this, some kind of fucking circus ?" - J. LaBrie (Dream Theater) Dream Theater online "Under A Cyber Moon" http://www.prognosis.com/dream/
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 16:28:17 -0300 (EST) From: Daniel Vasconcelos Gomes <danielvg@sel.eesc.sc.usp.br> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2601 Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970602161901.1643A-100000@POCAHONTAS>
Hey again.
I heard a brazillian guy asking how could he get Silent Man ep. Since I'm brazillian i have the same question.But my advice to make the same question to your cd dealer. I guess you will probably get it. But I'm also thinks that the cd dealer will say that the cd will cost 20 dollars. I have a problem with ordering cds via on-line services, because I'm not sure about how safe are these services.I don't know if credit card number will be safe.If i' wrong about, please let me know. I'd really like if I had to pay only $10 for a cd. it's $10 less from what i'm used to pay. I could buy two cds for a price of one.
Daniel V. Gomes Aragorn http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8551
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 97 15:32 EDT From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FNM Message-ID: <m0wYcqV-0004bPC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
Heard a new Faith No More song on a UK Kerrang sampler I got a few days back and it sounds a little too techno. Can't remember the name.
Don >>>>>>>AUTHORIZATION DENIED- PLEASE FOLLOW THE STEP BY STEP INSTRUCTIONS TO ACCESS YOUR COMPUTER AGAIN>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
1) Beat the living hell out of it 2) Press all the buttons at once 3) See how many pieces of glass you can make out of your computer screen 4) Take all the remaining wires and mangle them to death 5) Light the thing on fire with the remains of the cigarette you are no doubt smoking at the time.
:::::::Don Compton::::::::: mcauburn@iinc.com
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 15:46:34 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Pink Floyd/Wizard of Oz Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970602154448.1084A-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Mark Lampert wrote:
> When I see things like that, it makes me feel superior in knowing that I > have better things to do with my time.
Like posting about it?
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary & Webmaster cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 15:49:16 -0400 From: gsrockr@stratos.net (George Szumski) To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Silent Man single Message-ID: <19970602194640937.AAA151@smtp.stratos.net>
Hey group! I recently bought another copy of the single. I was going to sell it to a fellow jammer, but the deal went sour. (no hard feelings, Loren) If you want the single, e-mail me at gsrockr@stratos.net and we'll see what
we can work out. The disc is still in the cellophane and I have the receipt.
On with the jam, G. ---------------------------------------------------------------- I'm a drummer. I play the radio real good.
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 22:18:04 +0200 From: "Simon Mitternacht" <rel96dim@student2.lu.se> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: G3 world tour Message-ID: <9706022016.AA07947@nomina.lu.se>
I saw an interview with Steve Vai on VH-1
G3 are doing a world tour. They're coming to Europe!!!!!!!!!! (and hopefully sweden...)
song of the day: "Bleeding Me" - Metallica
Simon Mitternacht
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/1233/
May the force be with you...
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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 15:28:01 -0500 From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mimes, Alanis Message-ID: <33932CD1.EFA@auburn.net>
> >And what's a Ytsejammer doing listening to Alanis anyway?? She can't sing,
Here's what I have to say about Alanis: Happy Birthday! (23rd) > >>If a tree falls in the forest, and it kills a mime, does anyone care? > >>If an 18-wheeler runs down a mime int he middle of a crowded highway > >>with thousands of onlookers watching the carnage, does anybody care?
The millions of people that wanted to hear "Rock and Roll All Nite" live one last time do.
War Eagle! -- *********************************************************************** * Mark Peters -- swifty@auburn.net -- Auburn University, Class of '99 * * Ytsejammer, tape trader at http://www.twav.com/swifty/index.htm * ***********************************************************************
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 13:59:24 -0700 (MST) From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NEW CD RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENT!!! Message-ID: <199706022059.NAA07302@goodnet.com>
Hi all!!
Just a quick announcement of a few things.
1. Orders are now open for King's X "Acoustic Spirits" single CD. The cost will be $25. Shipping will occur almost _immediately_ when E2E shipping begins, and possibly even sooner! The fact that this is a single disc is what is making it possible to get it to ship faster than VS did. The print run will be 100 unless overwhelming demand makes more a necessity. The discs includes an _Acoustic Dreams_-quality acoustic show from 1991 (I believe) plus added material from the Ear Candy tour. The exact setlist will be posted ASAP. We're gonna try something a little different with this release. Melissa has re-organized the paperwork end of my CD business really well, and she wants to try a direct-feed release. So instead of taking reservations, we'll simply sell to the people whose mail orders get here first. If we exceed 100 orders we'll stop cashing checks, so it's risk free. This will also speed up the release tremendously. So if you dig King's X, or are already a fan of DT and/or Galactic Cowboys, get your order in for this release!! This info will be added to the new update on my web page this week. I am: Mike Bahr, 275 W. Juniper Ave. #1013, Gilbert, AZ 85233 USA Get that check/mo in fast! :)
2. Virtual Songs shipping is about to begin. I've been given a Thursday delivery date for the liners by the print shop. Everything else is ready.
3. Precious Things and Darkest of Winters continue to ship. Both are sold out at this time.
4. I'm finally out of Critical Mass entirely. If you have a current reservation, get that order sent in pronto, or your disc will have to be sold to someone else on the waiting list. If you still need this disc, e-mail me and I'll let you know if a cancellation makes your purchase possible. :)
5. When Dream and Today Unite and Scenes From a Memory continue to be available for purchase and shipping. Yeah!! :) Boy am I glad I printed enough of WDATU. It's still my best-selling disc ever.
As always, for more info check the web page below. Take care!!
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 18:10:29 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br> To: Daniel Vasconcelos Gomes <danielvg@sel.eesc.sc.usp.br> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2601 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95q.970602180503.21223D-100000@ant116.cce.usp.br>
On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Daniel Vasconcelos Gomes wrote:
> Hey again.
Hi. I'm posting this to the list and sending an e-mail to.
> I heard a brazillian guy asking how could he get Silent Man ep. > Since I'm brazillian i have the same question.But my advice to make the > same question to your cd dealer. I guess you will probably get it. > But I'm also thinks that the cd dealer will say that the cd will cost > 20 dollars.
Well, in fact, I was the brazilian guy asking about the EP. And I was interested in getting the "Lie" EP (which has the "To Live Forever" song on it, although getting the "Silent Man" EP is on my plans).
> I have a problem with ordering cds via on-line services, because I'm not > sure about how safe are these services.I don't know if credit card number > will be safe.If i' wrong about, please let me know.
At the time of this message, I have seen:
- www.cdnow.com; - www.cduniverse.com; - www.cdworld.com; - www.cdconnection.com.
No one seems to carry the "Lie" EP (or single for that matter), but the "Silent Man" seems much more popular. If anyone could tell me why this "Lie" is much more expensive, I'd appreciate.
See you later, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 17:35:31 -0400 From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2603 Message-ID: <199706022135.AA13943@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hello,
>And I really don't like Nuno Butternut, either. :-)
This, along with most of what this person has been contributing lately, is uncalled for. I agree with ladyheather that we need to come up with more than superficial reasons to be bashing bands. Taking a potshot like this at a guy's name is ridiculous. Is that the entire basis of your hatred for him? His name? Show some respect for the talent you'll never have. For the guy who asked, I agree, the Nuno CD is great. I saw him live in NYC. Great show, though Nno wasn't in a great mood. If you'd like any details, mail me.
>TOP 10 REASONS YOUR PT or TDOW CD ISN'T THERE YET.
Way to go Mike!!!:) I seem to remember an old saying about gift horses... -- _____________________________________________________________ Andrew Forcier a.k.a. Buck Stodgers --List Manager-- The Peppermint Tribe, the Saigon Kick Mailing List For info, check out: http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~rfm5570/ for e-mail inquiries, mailto:andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com *************************************************************
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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 14:48:02 -0700 From: Mark Hatch-Miller <ace@onfire.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970602144748.0069ae4c@onfire.net>
Hey jammerz..
Well I am just sitting here bored checking my mail and listening to APSOG, so I thought I would write.
If a few could please send me a short list of good prog CDs (only a few from each band please, and no Rush or DT or Fatez, cause I have that stuff) with discriptions of each one, I would really appreciate it. I know I have asked for similar stuff from you guys before and I always get a bunch of good responses, so anyone who has time and wants to help me out can write just a couple discs they recomend, and Im sure Ill get a ton of responses.
Upon listening to the new Megadeth album again yesterday with my bud Steve, I realized it is even better than last time I heard it. Anyways, when it comes out (today for everywhere but here, the 18th for those of us in the US) I highly recommend it. There is a great, wide range of stuff on it... everything from The Disintigrators (awesome, sounds like old Megadeth PeaceSells/RIP era) and FFF (very cool, heavy, thrashy song: "Fight For Freedom, Fight Authority, Fight For Anything, My Country Tis of Me") to Vortex (just awesome, heavy with a few new twists here and there) to Use the Man (possibly my favorite track... "I've seen the man use the needle, I've seen the needle use the man": great lyrics : )) It is awesome.
Anyways, thank you all for your responses in advance.
Keep on Proggin' Mark
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Mark Hatch-Miller, ace@onfire.net
"He's noble enough to know whats right but weak enough not to choose it He's wise enough to win the world but fool enough to lose it"-
Rush, "New World Man"
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