YTSEJAM Digest 2675
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Flotsam and Jetsam
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
2) Skadz Spaketh, Thal Playeth, LaBrie Curseth
by "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
3) HseJackdork :)
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
4) Re: HseJackdork :)
by eckie@asu.edu
5) Re: Paramaecium/bad e-mail address
by "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
6) Re: Maiden/Tick
by "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
7) CRUE(no DTC)
by Stixntrixx@aol.com
8) Black Light Syndrome (New magna Carta)
by wax@sprynet.com
9) Oops, read that one backwards...
by wax@sprynet.com
10) DreamDisc question
by alexis1@prtc.net (alexis1)
11) Re: Maiden
by marioo@plugnet.plugnet.com.br (Mário)
12) Cartoons 'n stuff
by Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
13) random B.S.
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
14) Re: QR show
by "Steven C. Young" <syoung@phnx.uswest.net>
15) Ordering CDs, Marillion, Maiden, AOR, Spice, IRC, MFP, asdf
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
16) Re: ProgDay
by Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
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Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 12:53:10 -0600
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Flotsam and Jetsam
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970627230230.007e6a60@postoffice.syspac.com>
> Can anyone tell me something about the new F & J? The previous release,
>"Drift", I ended up selling to a CD store about a week after I bought it...
>but "Cuatro" I really liked. What's the new album like?
>
A **VERY HEAVY** "Drift". If you didn't like Drift, you won't like
"High", IMHO.
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 13:05:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Vespres <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Skadz Spaketh, Thal Playeth, LaBrie Curseth
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970628130434.51840A-100000@dante09.u.washington.edu>
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 23:01:25 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
> Subject: ATTENTION IRC PEOPLEZ
RYAN SPEAKS!! (or would that be RYAN LIVES!!)
> This is for IRC people only. If you run a bot and you are not Dr
> Mosh, the bot will be k-lined from the server which means that you will
> probably be also k-lined. (this goes for the #ytsejam channel only)
> DO NOT run any bots on the system. If you have a problem with this,
> fuck off, this is policy.
>
> Skadz
You GO, girl! *snap* *snap*
(darnit, there I go with my condescending chauvanistic tone once again...)
I transcribed a riff by Ron Thal last night. It's about three seconds
long, and contains about 45 notes. It's from the song "Hangup" from the
album "Hermit." If there are any fans of his work who'd like to take a
crack at it, or anyone guitarists who are just curious as to what he
sounds like, e me. Due to the laceration on my index finger from an
exploding glass at work today I won't get the chance to practice it. Don't
cry for me Ytsejam. The truth is I can't stand Rush.
---- > From: MTeiper@aol.com > Subject: Regarding Angra... > > Well, I must say that I have recently gotten into Angra in a BIG way!Ooooh, did you show them your toolbox?
---- > From: Tim Caudill <symmetry@gate.usaor.net> > Subject: To the bloke who wanted advice... > > ej8+IikDAQaQCEAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAENgAQAAgAAAAIAAgABBJAG > ABoAAABSPICE0GIRLSxKICK@ASSAd00d!Af8PAQAAAGAAAAAAAAAAtTvCwCx3EBqhvAgA > KypWwhUAAADvyH0ftACCvNE4KZIAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAERUIE51 > AA3SO&TELLkMEwWATCHU*WANT#WATCHUnREALLY0REALLYvWANTAAB4AAzAAADwAAAHl0 > c2VqYW1AYXguY29AMAQAAAAMA/g8GAAAAHgABMAEAAAAKAAAAJ0RUIE51dHMnAAAAAgEL > EAAUAAIuWANNA0I@WANNAOIjWANNA5IAWANNA0uAAAAsAQDoBAAAAAgH2DwEAAAAEAAAA > AAAABdQyAQiABwAANLk1pY3Jvc29mdCBNYWlsLk5vdGUAMQgBBIABACIAAABUbyB0aGUg > xva22vIREALLYHREALLYdREALLYhWANNABZIGGABZIGGwAAAAAAAAAADNBACoAN0BASCA > AwAAAAzQcGABoAFwABABtAQEJgAEAIQAAAEE2MEI2QjBENUVFRUQwMTFCOEVEMDAyMEFG
Yes, he's in the part where Wayne and Garth go backstage to meet Alice Cooper. Keep your eyes open, though. Blink and you'll miss him. Just like finding Jon Bon Jovi in "Young Guns II."
If you haven't seen the cover of the Fix For '96 bootleg at
www.tequila.demon.co.uk/
You must. It's classic LaBrie. It's also kinda spooky, so if you're planning on going to bed anytime soon you might want to wait until daylight. This photo could give small children nightmares.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 12:59:34 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: HseJackdork :) Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970628125925.007e3710@postoffice.syspac.com>
At 02:04 AM 6/28/97 -0700, you wrote: >>Right before we switched 'em though, a "customer service representative" >>aka Twatboy came over and asked us how we were doing. > >Vince = prog dork #1, Eckie = prog dork #2 ;)
Try Metal Dork #1, Metal Dork #2 :) I could seriously give a fuck about prog.
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Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 14:13:16 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: HseJackdork :) Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970628141257.20109A-100000@general1.asu.edu>
Damn! He beat me to the punch line!
~Eckie
On Sat, 28 Jun 1997, Vincent G. LuPone wrote:
> At 02:04 AM 6/28/97 -0700, you wrote: > >>Right before we switched 'em though, a "customer service representative" > >>aka Twatboy came over and asked us how we were doing. > > > >Vince = prog dork #1, Eckie = prog dork #2 ;) > > Try Metal Dork #1, Metal Dork #2 :) > I could seriously give a fuck about prog. > > > |---------------------------------------------------------------------| > |"An old man tries to run me off, Vincent LuPone | > |As he stops to wheeze and cough vgl@syspac.com | > |I seize the fruit obscuredude@geocities.com | > |And seize his day away." Student/Guitarist | > | -FLOTSAM AND JETSAM, "Everything" Phoenix, AZ | > |= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =| > | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | > | | "The Secret Place I like to go..." | | > | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/6933 | | > | | "Welcome to My Hideaway" | | > | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | > |---------------------------------------------------------------------| >
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Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 16:26:21 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Paramaecium/bad e-mail address Message-ID: <199706282122.QAA02681@Walden.MO.NET>
> Dale, I tried to send this query directly to you, but it got bounced back > as being undeliverable. Is that a phoney email address or something? I don't know what the heck's going on. Evidently, more than a couple people have had a little trouble e-mailing me. My e-mail address is: drnewb@mo.net. I have no idea why it's appearing here like that. I checked my settings and everything, and all seems to be in order.
> Anyway.... ditto...
> Which is the album title, "Within..." or "Paramaecium"? I can't tell. Paramaecium is the band name. Within the Ancient Forest is the name of their second album. Their first one was entitled Exhumed of the Earth, I believe. Some good stuff if you dig that heavy rock and roll, and can stomach those cookie monster vocals :).
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 16:45:11 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Maiden/Tick Message-ID: <199706282141.QAA04399@Walden.MO.NET>
> Well yeah, I've noticed there are quite a lot of ppl that like it. And I've > especially noticed that many ppl have changed their opinion about it and > Blaze, after seeing them live... which I haven't, so maybe I'm missing > something. But in any case, I think we'll both agree that it's not a good > album as an introduction to Maiden. That's how I feel. I first heard X-Factor on the way to the show April '96, so my first real impression of Blaze was live. X-Factor has grown on me a good bit since I got it, but no, it's not a good introduiction to Maiden. > On a sadder note... they've suddenly decided to show the Tick w/o SAP here. > That means I have to see it in spanish. It's still funny, but they give him > really doofus of a voice (ala Moose from Archie)... now of course, he is > quite brainless, but half the fun is in his exagerated do-gooder voice, > which is totally absent in Spanish. But ya know what really got me? You > know how they translated 'Spoon!'? '. AMIGO MIO! That means 'friend of > mine'.... now, does 'spoon' sound anything like 'amigo mio'!? I DONT THINK > SO... who in the hell translates these programs?! AAAAAARRRRRRGGGHH! Hey, at least you get to see it. Fox dropped it, and we don't get Comedy Central on our cable system, so I have to drag out the few episodes I have on videotape when I need a Tick fix. YEAH, BABY YEAH!!!!!!!!
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 17:53:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Stixntrixx@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: CRUE(no DTC) Message-ID: <970628175312_913622946@emout04.mail.aol.com>
Sorry this is a bit late, but I’ve had ZERO time to check my e-mail lately. Anyway, Pat said:
Got the new Motley Crue cd today and well...It is hard to get a decent opinion but the ballads are like the old crue and the rockers are basically the last album with Vince on vocals.
I’ve actually had the album for the last month or so (and a four-song demo a month prior to that), thanks to a source that shall remain nameless, so I’ve lived with the album for a while. When I first heard it, there were only a handful of songs that leaped out at me: “Afaid” (first single) “Flush,” “Generation Swine,” and “Shout AT The Devil ‘97” (which, IMHO, kicks the shit out of the original version and I loved the original). But now, I think the album is one of their strongest to date. In regards to the ballads, I don’t hear any similarities to past Motley ballads (“Home Sweet Home,” “Without You,” etc), nor does the album really sound like anything Motley has done in the past. There are drum loops, samples, vocal and guitar effects that I’ve never heard before. For the most part they are incorporared well into the Motley sound and it is GREAT to have Vince back, but the sound has definitely gone through some changes.
It has a couple of weird songs where Nikki Sixx sings on one and Tommy Lee sings a song to his son-weird.
I’m in the minority amoung Motley Crue diehards when I say that those two songs should not have appeared on the album. I’ve got no problem with Nikki and Tommy singing a bit on the album, like they do on “Find Myself” and “Beauty” respectively. But how can they call “Rocketship” and “Brandon” Motley Crue songs when only one member of Motley Crue is performing on each song? This is not a comment on the quality of those songs per se, which is another issue. I just think they should have been saved for solo projects.
I have to listen to the cd on a good cd before I can really give a decent opion. Computer speakers just dont cut it.
Especially with this album. There are a lot of little things and effects that can only be heard with a real system. Lots of textures on this album, which leaves room for discovery with every listen.
The packaging takes a lot to get used to...
I knew they would do something strange. AFter all, it is Motley Crue.
Richie
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Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 18:31:15 -0400 From: wax@sprynet.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Black Light Syndrome (New magna Carta) Message-ID: <33B590B3.4807@sprynet.com>
Hey Jam! Just thought I'd let you know that the latest addition to the Magna Carta label is the band Black Light Syndrome - Terry Bozzio, Tony Levin, and Steve Stevens. I recently ordered the first Magellan album and with it came a flier saying that the album is going to be released July 15th. I am am Stevens fanatic especially after hearing the Atomic Playboys album some years back. I'm glad to see he hasn't quit. Just a thought...
The Ever Present Matt wax@sprynet.com -- "Some people fly and some of us worry..." -Queensryche
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Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 18:34:19 -0400 From: wax@sprynet.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Oops, read that one backwards... Message-ID: <33B5916B.4A02@sprynet.com>
Sorry, the BAND was Bozzio, Levin, Stevens. The ALBUM is titled Black Light Syndrome...
-Same Matt Idiot
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Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 19:05:05 -0300 From: alexis1@prtc.net (alexis1) To: "ytsejam mailing list" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DreamDisc question Message-ID: <19970629000322.AAA20572@alexis1>
Hey people! I was wondering if there is an internet site for DreamDisc, since I haven't been able to find one. If there isn't one, how can I order from them? Thanks for the help!
Alexis
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Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 21:17:33 -0300 From: marioo@plugnet.plugnet.com.br (Mário) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Maiden Message-ID: <199706290017.VAA05174@plugnet.com.br>
> Well yeah, I've noticed there are quite a lot of ppl that like it. And I've > especially noticed that many ppl have changed their opinion about it and > Blaze, after seeing them live... which I haven't, so maybe I'm missing > something.
Blaze live,singing Bruce Dickinson's songs,is awful...I think he sings well some musics from the albums with Paul Di'Anno and from The X Factor...
>But in any case, I think we'll both agree that it's not a good > album as an introduction to Maiden.
Yes,it isn't a good introduction to Maiden...My favorites albuns are "Powerslave","Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son" and "Piece Of Mind"...
Mario
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Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 23:37:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Cartoons 'n stuff Message-ID: <199706290337.XAA15211@umbc10.umbc.edu>
> ARGH! I feel your pain, Ernie. Not with the Tick, per se, as I > never watched that, but I remember trying to watch the Simpsons in > Spanish, and the voices blew. I always had this image of a 90-year > old drunk guy doing the voices out of a garbage can studio somewhere > in an alley of Mexico City. As for translations, you are so right, > but I noticed them more in the print comics. Poor "Hagar" became "Olafo" > who the hell are the "Picapiedra?" I think "los flintstone" would have > sounded fine. But, even faithful translations sometimes are losers. There > just isn't the same ring to "el raton Mickey" ....
MAybe, but sometimes they happen to nail it. In Spanish, Donald Duck is "Se~nor Pato Donato." In Italian, Doanald's nephews, Huey, Dewey, and Loiue become "Qui, Quo, and Qua" which are Italian transliterations of "quack."
> > On a sadder note... they've suddenly decided to show the Tick w/o SAP here. > > That means I have to see it in spanish. It's still funny, but they give him > > Stuff like that is *funnier* in Spanish, if ya ask me. My parents > recently got a tv with that SAP stuff (it even has a remote control!) and > channel 5 in nyc plays the Simpsons in Spanish over the sap. It's pretty > amusing. :) > > Factoid of the day: "D'oh!" in Spanish is "D'oh!".
And Kramer is still Kramer. "Seinfeld" is SOOOOOOO funny in Spanish. :)
Steve Z
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Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 22:13:12 -0400 From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: random B.S. Message-ID: <19970629023827.AAA15501@sni.pananet.com>
> Because I get a rush out of the weirder stuff (Buckethead, Praxis) I think > that's why Ron's music appeals to me so much. He has obscenely good > technical abiltiy but makes music that is extremely listenable, while doing > wholetone and atonal things. >
I have to hear this guy!
> Factoid of the day: "D'oh!" in Spanish is "D'oh!". >
Whadda you know? It's like that in German too! Actually, I seem to like the Simpsons in german better. Homer sounds even dumber:)
> > Bafu Vai > > > > ------------------------------ > > End of YTSEJAM Digest 2673 > > ************************** > > Did this happen a lot when I was in ack mode? >
Not another EOJ war!
actual content in my next post...
imagining his words, Ernie
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 01:54:41 -0700 From: "Steven C. Young" <syoung@phnx.uswest.net> To: "YtseJam (Dream Theater Mailing List)" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: QR show Message-ID: <33B622D1.7850@phnx.uswest.net>
Hey, y'all -- I haven't posted in a while, but I just got back from the Queensryche show in Phoenix (Desert Sky Pavilion) and I had to speak up. If there are any of you out there who are still struggling with the decision of whether to fork out the dough to see these guys -- FORK IT OUT, MAN!!! Could there be a better live band on the road right now? Or ever? (Boy, I just invited a wealth of flames, didn't I?) And the sound at the venue was absolutely outstanding (outdoor venues RULE, by the way). Queensryche 'live' is well worth the $$$!!! I wish that they would put out videos from their last two tours -- If you didn't see the Promised Land show, you really missed out. So, don't miss out on this one! You won't regret it...except maybe the opening act Piston (pronounced 'pissed-on'...mmm, clever).
Steve Young (no, not him) Tempe(rature), Arizona syoung@phnx.uswest.net
In the CD-player right...NOW: +1) Dream Theater - Precious Things 1) Boston - Greatest Hits (another great live band -- seein' them 8/5!) 2) Dokken - Shadowlife 3) Firehouse - Good Acoustics 4) Megadeth - Cryptic Writings 5) Motley Crue - Generation Swine 6) Queensryche - Hear In The Now Frontier
"Do you...do you wanna scream?" - Motley Crue ("Afraid")
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 14:45:15 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Ordering CDs, Marillion, Maiden, AOR, Spice, IRC, MFP, asdf Message-ID: <01BC849C.757815A0@Riker.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
Brent Reurich said :
> I'm about to buy some CD's on-line. I am thinking of using CDNow.
If you do, please use my CD Now link so I'll get 5 % credit :-))
http://cdnow.com/from=sr-223652
You could also try Music Boulevard at :
http://www.musicblvd.com/cgi-bin/tw/14100_0_/mb2/live/main/main.txt
They have lotsa real audios, so you can check out music before ordering it. _____
Walter Semerenko shouted :
> WHERE IN THE WORLD IS MARILLION?
Right now, they're on tour in Europe. They'll be back in Holland in September for some more concerts (and hopefully for a fanclub convention). I think the US tour will probably be in August.
If you're interested in concert photo's of Marillion in Holland, check out my site at http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/ _____
Ernesto Schnack about Iron Maiden :
> You should get Powerslave, Piece of Mind, or Somewhere in time... > that was Maiden's peak... and you should also consider getting Live > after Death....
Don't forget "Seventh Son of a Seventh Son" ! (IMO their masterpiece). _____
So far, I've heard three explanations for what AOR stands for :
ALBUM Oriented rock American Oriented Rock Mostly used by Europians (I think) Adult Oriented Rock Mostly used in the US (I think) _____
Eric LaRue asked :
> What does everyone have against the Spice Girls?
Well, they suck ! ;-d Dunno about their music, though (never heard it) _____
Ryan (vancer1@juno.com) asked :
> is there a mIRC chat room for DT or Metallica?
Server : irc.dreamt.org Portnr : 2112 Channel: #Ytsejam
There's also a #Freaks channel for Marillion fans on that server. _____
Check out http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/indexdt.htm for this month's Ytsejam "Most Frequent Poster Lists" in a few days. And while you are there, add your birthday to the Ytsejam Birthday Calendar :-) Also, if you're interested in some Marillion or Fish samples take a look at the "Samples and ordering albums" section on that page ! The links on those pages take you directly to the real audios, at Music Boulevard. _____
And finally :
> From: Ack! <stu3801@sun.cc.westga.edu> > How do I get off of this mailing list???
> From: Glover <glover@dns.thewebcorp.com> > Please take me off your mailing list immediately. Thank you.
Mark, back into lurk mode for another month, I guess... ____________________________________________________bredius@globalxs.nl__ HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THE YTSEJAM : _ _____ ___ _ _ __ __ Address: ytsejam-request@ax.com |:||_.:._|/:._]|:]_[:|\.\_/./ Subject: asdf |:| |:| (.:(_ |:___:| \_::/ Message: unsubscribe ytsejam <yourname> |_| [_] \___]|_] [_| [__/ _________________________________________________________________________ "What is this, some kind of fucking circus ?" - J. LaBrie (Dream Theater) Dream Theater online "Under A Cyber Moon" http://www.prognosis.com/dream/
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 15:00:50 +0100 From: Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: ProgDay Message-ID: <yam7119.2521.1461399312@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
Hi!
>be on the West Coast at the time), Little Big Man Productions and Jim >Pitulski in particular were very cordial, and they even knew what progressive >rock was!
Well, I would have guessed that Jim Pitulski knows, being one of the former managers of Dream Theater ;-))
Steffen
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