YTSEJAM Digest 2379
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Dio / booting
by the bitch <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
2) Live shows
by vanzin@dks.com.br
3)
by James <rycher@pacbell.net>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2365
by ai292@freenet.carleton.ca (Gordon McFee)
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2373
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
6) Re: Maidenity
by petedz@interaccess.com
7) Open mouth, insert foot, echo internationally
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2378
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
9) Well, I'm a fucknut
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
10) Images & Tour! boot?
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
11) fix bs
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
12) Re: Megadeth
by Mike Hill <psytron@ntr.net>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2377
by strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
14) Savatage
by strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
15) Iron Maiden and Blaze
by MTeiper@aol.com
16) My definition of prog and why I like it so much...
by "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
17) "Fix" Boots and Preaching in General
by wax@sprynet.com
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 19:46:44 -0500 (EST)
From: the bitch <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Dio / booting
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970321193524.22310C-100000@umbc9.umbc.edu>
> Oh, and I DO have a boot of the HftH '95 show, but NOT Fix for '96.
> I will not get one either, nor will I listen to clips from one,
> just on principal. Maybe after the new album comes out, tho ...
Based on posts like this one, I'm wondering HOW LOYAL DT fans really are.
It's good to respect a bands' wishes but it seems that some people on this
list would jump off a building if Mike Portnoy told them to. It just seems
that the people who are speaking so strongly on this issue of respecting
DT's wishes think that they are missionaries and that their new purpose in
life is telling us to honor DT. They're a band; not gods.
Brandon
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:53:54 -0300
From: vanzin@dks.com.br
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Live shows
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.17.3.21.-11.53.54.2579404677.642402@dks.com.br>
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YT>From: George Kirk <kirk1740@mach1.wlu.ca>
YT>Subject: Great live bands
YT>Best band I've seen live is Deep Purple, last November. INCREDIBLE!
YT>Everything about that show was perfect! I can't believe 50+ year old guys
YT>can rock that hard! I think Steve Morse gave them a much needed kick in
YT>the ass.
Yeah! Their show was the best I saw, for sure. Those guys rock!
Ah, and I can't forget: AC/DC! Angus Young kicks ass live! I only think
Purple's was better because it was in a smaller place. Shows in stadiums
(like AC/DC's one was) do not have the same feeling as those in smaller clubs.
YT>Next best was Yngwie Malmsteen in 1993...that kicked ass! He's quite a
YT>performer. Played for almost 3 hours!! It was well worth the $16 I paid!
I'd put Malmsteen after Vai. Vai's show here last week kicked
serious butt, he's a great showman, and knows how to put the audience on
fire. :) Malmsteen's show last year was pretty amazing, though.
YT>I saw Iron Maiden (with Blaze Bailey) last March...their show is so
YT>stripped down...I was there for the classic Maiden songs and to see Steve
YT>Harris...not a bad show overall, but not all that special either.
I liked the Maiden show last year, I really like Blaze's singing
(although not as much as Bruce's os Paul's - he only disappointed me
when singing "The Clairvoyant"), and Janick Gers has a lot of energy,
although I prefer Adrian Smith on the guitars. I don't need
to say nuthing about Steve Harris, Dave Murray or Nicko McBrain... Those
guys rule.
Another cool live show (as someone already said) is (was)
Suicidal Tendencies. most for Mike Muir than for the others... Talk
about running from side to side of the stage all show!!! :)
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:11:44 -0800
From: James <rycher@pacbell.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970322011144.0067a4fc@pacbell.net>
I for one am glad that Morse is with Deep Purple. Ritchie Blackmore was
never more then a hack on the instrument for most of his illustrious career,
who came up with some cool riffs. I saw him with Purple back in the 80's
(Perfect Strangers tour) and for the better part of the concert he was going
back and forth backstage, hardly playing a note and rubbing his nose every
time he came back like he was doing up the coke to make it through the show.
Major disappointment. The rest of the band cooked, and the show was great,
in spite of Blackmore.=20
Morse is the best thing that could have happened to Purple, he is an awesome
player and even though I have not heard the album in depth- he jams on what
I have heard. His new energy is great for the band.=20
> >When did Steve Morse join Deep Purple?
> So he replaced Ritchie? I guess Ritchie is focusing on the other=
incredible
> band he started, huh? =1B(Not a helluva lot of difference, though if ya=
ask
> me). I'm I did hear sound samples of Poipendicular over the Web, wasn't
> very impressed with it. Is that Gillan singing? Sounds like him,
> unfortunately not like the old stuff, though (Light Me Up!)
For my money, Perpendicular is the best Purple album since Perfect
Strangers, and is one of the best ever. Morse brings a stronger sense of
melody and a fresh perspective to the band.
I'd reccommend the album to fans of Morse as being some of his best
playing. He just keeps getting better!
IMHO, of course. :)
!!!!!!!
(=F4 =F4)
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:36:29 -0500 (EST)
From: ai292@freenet.carleton.ca (Gordon McFee)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2365
Message-ID: <199703211736.MAA21643@freenet2.carleton.ca>
> Have some of you forgot what the word progressive means? Some of you
>guys expect a progressive band to stay stagnant. For example, some Jammers
>have said DT should make their next album sound like I+W or Queensryche
>should make another Operation: Mindcrime. That is not progressive music in
>fact its regressive music.
There's been a wonderful kerfuffle (like that word) in r.m.a.q.
about this already, but I'll repeat it here.
Progressive is a label used for what was "progressive" in the
70's, ie complex music. (It's a bit broader than that but this definition
serves for simple purposes). Thus although the music is regressive it's
still "progressive". If Queensryche changes their sound to grunge they are
not "progressing" in the musical sense although they are changing from a
sort of quasi-progressive metal to grunge.
Thus I would say nobody has forgotten what progressive means, just
that some ytsejammers don't know what it means in the first place.
> I've been meaning to write about this for a long, long time. I think that
>the definition that some people on this list use for the word "progressive"
>are just absurd. Many people have said lately that we have to expect DT and
>Metallica is progressive. Pearl Jam, from what I've heard on this list
>recently, is progressive. Megadeth? Progressive. Van Halen? They're so
>anything, at least I know that I'm progressive, 'cause my playing doesn't sound
>like it did a year ago. Right?
You've illustrated the fallacy well.
> The other definition of progressive that seems to prevail on this list is
>that it is simply another style of music that is defined in much the same way
>that "grunge", "cock rock", or even country are all defined. That is to say,
>a certain kind of vocals, fast guitar solos, technical drumming, etc. This
>works better, since there's actually something here to define it with.
I can assure you that despite the fact I agree with the definition
here I don't pretend that progressive is superior to other music although
*I* certainly prefer it.
> I've have always thought of "progressive" as more of an approach to
>songwriting. I guess this could be called a philosophy on music, more than a
>style. This different approach to music stresses complexity, but not
>necessarily technicality. And by complexity I mean that the music goes
>somewhere, taking a melodic theme, exploring it, changing it, and seeing what
>you end up with when all is said and done. What instruments are used are not
>so much an issue to me. Now this is just how I used to think of it. To be
>honest, I don't really care what progressive is anymore, because if the word
>ever had any meaning on this list it certainly doesn't anymore, what with all
>the differing uses of it. And I'm certainly not expecting anyone else to agree
>with my definition, I just thought I should toss mine out there after ripping
>on everyone elses.
Your assessment agrees a lot with the one you had in the second
paragraph minus the "egocentric progfan" part and seems to agree with
reality. Robert Fripp in King Crimson would definately be a good example
of someone who writes quintessential progressive music with elements of
complexity but without being masturbatory.
The main problem is that over time "progressive music" has come to
mean something different than the dictionary definition of "progressive"
might imply. Thus somebody comes and thinks they have had a brilliant
brainstorm by pointing out that progressive music is a lousy label.
-- "To seek the sacred river Alph, and walk the caves of ice..." - Rush "Ashes and Diamonds,Foe and Friend/We were all equal in the end." -Pink Floyd "The sands of time were eroded by the river of constant change." - Genesis "Others steal your thoughts they're not confined within your mind"-DreamTheater------------------------------
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 18:35:31 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2373 Message-ID: <199703220147.RAA16477@odin.ax.com>
> 1) Someone tell the story about how Portnoy sang the first > lines of Killing Hand (?) during one of the Fix shows > cuz JLB was takin' a whizz or something... > > At the Birch, I remember James asking Mike if he wanted > to do it again..... :P
My favorite stories are the ones about James getting pissed at the dude during the Surrounded song and the stories I've heard about Johnny P. falling off of the stage. I think I read an article somewhere about that, too. heheh...
> Megadeth is NOT a great live band. Performance-wise, they were > flawless (I saw them in '95), but as far as the show went, it wasn't > that exciting. Combined with the fact I dislike Youthanasia, it just > wasn't a great show. Although I did enjoy "Tornado of Souls"....I > had been yelling the title all night and Mustaine looked at me and > said "just wait"...that was
Megadeth I thought was real cool to see live. Sure they don't move around alot, but they really can't all too well. They're all strapped into something. Not like QR where Geoff wanders around, sings, drinks a couple of beers, plays a little sax, etc. :) Even so, MD is a cool band. They pay attention to their fans while they play at least. Just after I had my hair permed (that was a big mistake, all pictures have been destroyed) I went to the MD concert. My hair was a damned afro frizzy mess. The kewlest thing was being in the front right in between Marty and Dave and seeing Dave stop playing guitar, continue singing, point at me, and make fun of my hair. Marty just kept playing and laughed. All I could do was laugh along and fight for breath. It's damn hot at the front and air seems real scarce. It makes you wonder how the bands can take it. :)
> Hetfield, who can just fire out a great heavy song at a moment's > notice. As a bassist, he's just huge for me. For better or worse, > I think "The X Factor" is a fairly impressive effort.
Personally, I think the X-Factor is their best album since Seventh Son. I would probably like it more had Bruce still been there, but I still think Blaze did an excellent job on the album. It seems to be more mellow in alot of places and heavier in alot of others. The Unbeliever, 2 AM, and The Edge of Darkness being my personal faves.
> DT's wishes think that they are missionaries and that their new > purpose in life is telling us to honor DT. They're a band; not gods.
I wouldn't jump off of a bridge if Mike Portnoy asked me to. Maybe if he held a gun to my head and then asked me to, I might reconsider. :)
As for missionaries, I've had two new converts this year. Our strength is growing, and I can sense the nearness of our beloved dieties. I must now bow my head toward Long Island and pay obsequious homage to the Five. KorgX3 a.k.a. ibanez@cyberhighway.net http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ibanez/index.html Disclaimer: The content expressed in the previous document is not the opinion of the author. The author is exonerated of anything written therein. Viewer discretion is advised.
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 20:02:14 -0600 From: petedz@interaccess.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Maidenity Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970322020214.006bbb2c@pop.interaccess.com>
>Am I the only one who doesn't think Blaze Bailey is terrible?
Ummmm....probably. :) (Actually, I'm really surprised by the number of posts supporting this guy. Is he *much* better live than on the album???)
>In any event, Steve Harris is really the driving force in the band.
No arguement, but I really miss hearing the interplay between three extremely tight players...and some guy on drums. With a better choice of a replacement, Maiden could have survived losing Dickenson. From my vantage point, they didn't survive Adrian Smith's departure.
-- Pete Dziadzka
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:42:22 -0500 From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Open mouth, insert foot, echo internationally Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970321213959.0068cc00@ici.net>
I would just to take this opportunity to apologize to Ryanne:
I reread your post, and I realized that I took the line about "the list being pulled apart" and replied to that out of context. I let my vehemence about this topic get out of hand, and I'm sorry.
Having said that....
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>Thanks, don't mind if I do. (...climb on Pat's soapbox) > Booting bands that allow it is good. > Booting bands that are quiet about it is questionable. > Booting bands that ask us not to is bad. >(jump off for the next person...)
Thank you. It's good to see someone putting it to good use. Nice summation, counselor. :)
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 20:44:29 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2378 Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.970321203840.26761E-100000@enteract.com>
> >Listen fucknut, I consider myself (along with Chris Ptacek) to be among the > >most vocal supporters of the position you are railing against, > > Well, you're just one fucking perfect individual aren't you? WHY THE FUCK DO YOU > FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO FORCE YOUR OPINIONS DOWN OTHERS' THROAT? You're worse than > a reformed smoker or a born again Christian. You feel you are the moral right & > you're not gonna quit until everyone follows you, oh great Messiah! well > FUCK YOU! You don't like it then too fucking bad. Just accept the fact that not > everyone's going to agree with you and get on with it.
Please relax before you respond to this. I'm taking this particular letter to private e-mail for the jam's sake. I'd like to keep everything civil.
My question:
What about this situation is "opinion"? You are aware that the argument isn't about whether bootlegs are good or bad.
The issue is:
If you respect the band, then you respect their request not to deal in this bootleg. If you do not respect the band, then you can do as you please with the fix tapes.
I'm not trying to tell anyone that their opinion is wrong or right. What I'm saying is that it's a fact, that if you deal in these Fix bootlegs, you are not respecting the band, and that any claims one makes about respecting the band are "in fact" lies. I don't condemn anyone for dealing in these bootlegs. But I do not want to hear lies.
- Chris
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 20:47:54 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Well, I'm a fucknut Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.970321204506.26761F-100000@enteract.com>
I just accidentally sent a personal e-mail to the jam. I apologize to you all, and admit my fucknutery, and apologize personally to Scott, to whom the mail was intended.
That felt pretty fucking stupid. God, I love Pine.
-Chris
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:55:05 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Images & Tour! boot? Message-ID: <199703220255.VAA19823@newman.concentric.net>
I'm wondering, though, if any seasoned Jammers have ever had any sort of contact with a seemingly rare bootleg called "Images & Tour!". I'm really curious about this one, but it seems to be nonexistent. Anybody seen this one before, or maybe looking to part with it? Chances?
Interesting occurence the other day: I was sitting at a joint on the campus of University of Florida (I go to school there) called the Orange & Brew, which is like a wimpy bar & grill (with decent coffee). Anyway, I was reading about autoregressive moving average filtering while wearing my Awake t-shirt. Then the next thing I know, some fellow approached me and says, "Hey, I couldn't help but notice your shirt. Do you have any idea when their new album will be released?" Whoa, THAT sure came as a surprise! So there you have it. My very first DT run-in just because of my friggin' t-shirt. And to think that I was under the impression I'm virtually the only UF DT fan here. Thanks goodness I'm not.
Now playing: Meat Beat Manifesto, "Storm the Studio"
-Rick Audet
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 20:55:42 -0600 From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: fix bs Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970322025542.0076c938@mail.inlink.com>
> >Based on posts like this one, I'm wondering HOW LOYAL DT fans really are. >It's good to respect a bands' wishes but it seems that some people on this >list would jump off a building if Mike Portnoy told them to. It just seems >that the people who are speaking so strongly on this issue of respecting >DT's wishes think that they are missionaries and that their new purpose in >life is telling us to honor DT. They're a band; not gods. >
i wouldnt jump off a building if mike portnoy told me to, but thats ridiculous, they're not gods, they're people, not rejects you should take advantage of. the asked people not to boot and pass the shows, so how hard is it to just obey that? they didnt ask you for your kidney. ~Rip
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:00:49 -0500 From: Mike Hill <psytron@ntr.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Megadeth Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970322030049.00955d48@ntr.net>
>Another thing that I wonder at this moment, I don't see any connection >between DT's style of music and Megadeth. I've never considered them even >remotely similar, perhaps someone can explain to me what Im missing.
there are quite a few similarities between these bands..
first of all, i would say that both bands are the best at what they do.. next, both bands have a tremendous amount of ability and Friedman and Petrucci are both awesome.. both bands offer a lot of variety in their music, although Megadeth to a lesser degree.. also, both bands have really intelligent and thought provoking lyrics..
mike psytron@ntr.net
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 23:08:41 -0500 From: strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2377 Message-ID: <v01530501af590a23ba0d@[207.79.6.162]>
>Well, he has been singing for almost 30 years and that's a long time, so I'd >imagine that his voice is different than 'the old stuff.' You must not have >heard their last cd "The Battle Rages On." Now *that* album sucked!
I did have "The Battle Rages On." I sold it to a used record store. I really enjoy listening to Perfect Strangers and House of... which aren't that old either (compared to early stuff) and his unpopular effort in the 70's "Gillan", he really sang well (but was always phukt up while doing it.)
And, this "Perpendicular" I heard was just samples over the Web, so for all I know it could really rock.
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 23:17:05 -0500 From: strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Savatage Message-ID: <v01530502af590d52796f@[207.79.6.162]>
>I couldn't >believe that "Out on the Streets" sounded familiar. I hadn't heard of >Savatage till EoT.
One song on that album I remember, this could be the one, was originally a hit song by Air Supply or somebody. Somebody correct me if I be wrong. J.Keifling
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 23:26:16 -0500 (EST) From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Iron Maiden and Blaze Message-ID: <970321232616_920547381@emout09.mail.aol.com>
Howdy Ytsefux!
I just read a post from a recent Jam listing some of the dudes who got to audition for Maiden's vocalist position when Bruce left. Actually, I had thought that Bruce's voice had started to deteriorate (compared to say, "Live After Death"), and when I heard the X-Factor, I was at first shocked at how different Blaze sounded, but then grew used to it. Almost even liked it. No problem, right? And then... I had to read how Michael Kiske auditioned and they DIDN'T FOOKIN' PICK HIM?!?!? The day, no it was more like the minute, I read that Bruce was leaving, the first thing that popped into my head was... "Kiske would be a perfect replacement!" I never knew they auditioned him! Now I'm pissed... sorry, but I haven't heard Angra yet, and from what I understand, he sounds a lot like Kiske, and I've never even heard of Tarot. Damn, now I'm depressed... I think I'll pop Helloween's "Chameleon" in the ol' CD player - that might cheer me up some. Laterz!!! - Matt T.
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 20:28:12 -0800 (PST) From: "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: My definition of prog and why I like it so much... Message-ID: <199703220428.UAA04879@f17.hotmail.com>
Okay, since the current trend seems to be attempting to define prog, I guess I'll take a stab at it.
1.It must be intellectually stimulating. It must demand thought on the part of the listener, whether it be on the first hearing or on many hearings. It must not be a transient thing, such as "I love you, you love me, let's go out!" It should be on the deeper aspects of its subject matter, whether it be something common, such as love, or something that is in the songwriters mind that no one has ever thought of before.
2.It must be emotionally moving. After listening to the song, the listener should feel more deeply the emotions conveyed by the song than (s)he has ever felt before. It should not be a casual flirtation, but true love. It should not be a slight irritation, but pure rage. It should not be a nice feeling of fun, but intense joy. The list can go on and on.
3.It must reflect musical talent. The whole message of the progressive rock song can not be lost due to poor performance. The music must be written by the songwriters to reflect the character of the lyrics, and the performers must render the performance so that the listener is not distracted by obvious mistakes and flaws in the players playing.
Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss,
Eric Paul LaRue
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 23:59:50 -0500 From: wax@sprynet.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: "Fix" Boots and Preaching in General Message-ID: <33336746.6C3@sprynet.com>
To all involved in the boot debate <particularly Mr. Ptacek who seems to be a level-headed individual who accepts criticism with a grain of salt>,
Please understand that with my last post regarding certain Jammers telling us not to distribute the "Fix" boots, I had no intent of dissing the band in any way and I'll be the first to admit I can be downright verbally abusive when I feel people are out of line. If anyone took offense, I apologize <but based on some of the reactions, it looks like I have a few people I don't even know on my side on this one>.
First off, to the mentally deficient individual who felt the need to chastise me by calling me a brainless moron: you are right about one thing, I DON'T always read every line of what is published on the Jam because frankly, there are a lot of people, like yourself, who post shit that it isn't even worth wasting my time reading. And I'm sorry if I embarrass you as a subscriber, but it's funny because I feel the same way about you!! BTW, I'd challenge you to a Mensa test any day of the week.
OK, so you don't have the "Fix" boot. Boo-hoo. My point was that no one should be wasting their time preaching that it shouldn't be copied, whether it's in respect to the band's wishes or not. You are wasting your time.
I'm facing cold, hard facts here. My personal opinion is that the band is finished with EastWest/Atlantic and if that is the case, it's likely we won't see another album for quite some time, IF EVER, and it's fine if you want to say I'm not capable of controlling my own animal urges by not waiting for the new material, but I'm just facing the possibility that I may NEVER hear new studio material from the band again so forgive me if I go through alternate means to take one last bite...
Don't get me wrong, I'm not giving up on the band, just the label. I understand that you have respect for the band's wishes and I respect you for that, I really do, all I'm saying is that you can post your ranting until carpal tunnel sets in, but you are NEVER going to stop the bootlegging, whether the people doing it consider themselves fans or not and I'd like to reiterate that there is not a "true fan" out there who would not buy a new DT album THE DAY IT WAS RELEASED whether they had the "Fix" boots or not. Based on the petition, I would hope the band would recognize that too. Besides, it has been my experience that bootlegged live versions of new songs are almost never the same as the final studio version of the song. Christ, look at "A Change of Seasons" and "To Live Forever."
Anyway, I've wasted far too much time and space already, so I'm done with this issue. Thanks for paying attention. Take Hold!!
The Ever Present Matt
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