YTSEJAM Digest 2380
Today's Topics:
1) Where in the world is Mike Bahr?
by Longshot@upn20email.com
2) Re: Iron Maiden's uprising!
by M9701369@fedcmac.tce.rmit.edu.au
3) Re: Where in the world is Mike Bahr?
by the bitch <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
4) Re: Where in the world is Mike Bahr?
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
5) Helloween
by Kramer <CK78729@ltu.edu>
6) Another day CD single
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
7) Savatage
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
8) Angus Young, Deep Purple, Baseball (NDTC)
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
9) ATG
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
10) Live Shows
by Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com>
11) Page & Stickers
by buster@ee.net
12) Savatage gets it done....
by "Nils Andersson" <nils.g.andersson@mbox330.swipnet.se>
13)
by
14) Re: ATG
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
15) Re: Megadeth Stage Stasis
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
16) Re: Now I'm PISSED!
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
17) Wo0h0o!
by Ben Laussade <laussade@m5.sprynet.com>
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2379
by Seth Casale <casals@Sage.EDU>
19) prog means...
by Seth Casale <casals@Sage.EDU>
20) Go to this page, down load the files, NOW!
by Awake77@aol.com
21) Have I been booted out?
by "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
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Date: 22 Mar 1997 00:40:34 PDT
From: Longshot@upn20email.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Where in the world is Mike Bahr?
Message-ID: <199703220539.VAA18473@odin.ax.com>
Excuse this question, but I was wondering what has happened to Mike
Bahr? I have been waiting for three cds which I have sent in money for.
Mike is usually very good, but there hasn't been an update on the DT
page since the end of January and I am a little concerned.
If this question has been answered on this list earlier, I apologize. I
just got back on the list a week ago. (no E-Mail account... :^( )
Could someone update me?
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"The Longshot" but glittering prizes and endless
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shatter the illusion of integrity."
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 17:39:31 +11EST
From: M9701369@fedcmac.tce.rmit.edu.au
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden's uprising!
Message-ID: <6E8C6D7F9A@fedcmac.tce.rmit.edu.au>
This is continuing with the recent theme of Iron Maiden's so called
downfall. Have some respect people. Black sabbath may have started the
whole metal 'thing', but IMHO Iron Maiden defined its limits. IE -
Maiden's music practically screams to the world 'THIS IS HEAVY METAL',
and everything else is just some derivative or variation on a common
theme. Maiden is this common theme. They are analagous to a Tiger tank
pointed in one direction and all they do is go foward destroying all
that lays in its path. No metal band is more true to the cause than
maiden - with or without Adrian or Bruce. Admittedly there are a few
dodgy songs here and there and their international 'popularity' isn't
what it once was, but this is not the name of the game is it? The point
is, the X-Factor is Maiden to the core, Blaze suits the bill well. And
anything that is the essence of Iron Maiden is the essence of Heavy
Metal. Period
Daniel
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 01:46:07 -0500 (EST)
From: the bitch <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Where in the world is Mike Bahr?
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970322014446.28646A-100000@umbc10.umbc.edu>
> Excuse this question, but I was wondering what has happened to Mike
> Bahr? I have been waiting for three cds which I have sent in money for.
> Mike is usually very good, but there hasn't been an update on the DT
> page since the end of January and I am a little concerned.
Mike Bahr has his own web page now at <http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik>. I
read his most recent update the other day and he is currently out of town
for a few days and has no email accesss.
Brandon
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 01:49:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Where in the world is Mike Bahr?
Message-ID: <199703220649.BAA27147@cliff.cris.com>
At 09:48 PM 3/21/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Excuse this question, but I was wondering what has happened to Mike
>Bahr? I have been waiting for three cds which I have sent in money for.
> Mike is usually very good, but there hasn't been an update on the DT
>page since the end of January and I am a little concerned.
Gee, you *have* been out of touch, haven't you. :) Mike has finally learned
a bit of HTML and can now post the update on his own page. It's at...
http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/home.html
-Rick Audet
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:53:25 -0500 (EST)
From: Kramer <CK78729@ltu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Helloween
Message-ID: <01IGSF69CUO291WX0D@ltu.edu>
Holy shit! Someone else besides me owns a copy of Chameleon! That album
is awesome. I was used to the older heavier style of Helloween, but after
hearing this album I didn't mind the changes. It's too bad this album
was never released in the states. I highly recommend tracking down a copy
to any Helloween fans who haven't heard it.
-C#
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 23:22:28 +0100
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'The YtseSpam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Another day CD single
Message-ID: <01BC36CE.17E55680@Chakotay.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
Rip asked :
> hey guys, can anyone tell me anything about the Another day
> Maxi CD single with AFIL and AD live on it?
1. Another Day (album version) 4:22
2. A Fortune In Lies (live) 5:10
3. Another Day (live) 4:25
LC0120
7567-96013-2
France CA 773
Tracks 2 & 3 are recorded at the Marquee London, April 23rd 1993.
Of course, "AFIL" can be found on all the versions of "LatM".
The Japanese version of "LatM" has "AD" as track four, instead
of "Surrounded".
Mark
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 97 10:48 EST
From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Savatage
Message-ID: <m0w8T2A-000AgAC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
Well, on the Savatage "Fight For The Rock" disc, I believe the cover by Air
Supply was "Wishing Well" and I think "Day After Day" is a Badfinger cover
who I think is the same band who originally performed "No Matter What" by
Lillian Axe.
Don Compton
mcauburn@iinc.com
Warrior Soul Homepage (now featuring a Whats New section, a review with more
to come, liner notes, lyrics, and info on rare CD singles)
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784/
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:53:50 -0800
From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
To: People on a Girl Scout Cookie High <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Angus Young, Deep Purple, Baseball (NDTC)
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970322195350.00675060@pop.pipeline.com>
MAMALOOKI'MONCRACK wrote:
>I've always wondered how Angus Young does it. He's been playing the same
way for
>over 20 years no matter if the show is :45 or 2 hours.
You got that right. He's been playing THE SAME WAY for over 20 years.
And I mean *EXACTLY* the same way. As in, every song sounds the same.
I'm sure that's not quite what you meant, but if the shoe fits...
AC/DC reminds me of one of those music boxes; just wind it, and it will
play the same song over and over and over.
I, (as if anyone respects my opinion! - Hey! Don't boot my ideas! Please!)
have noticed people talking about the newest Purple CD, "purpendicular."
I urge anyone who enjoys Steve Morse to buy this immediately. His tone
is so smooth. This is the best Purple album in years, and for the
untraditional Purple fan like me, who doesn't really get into the same old
"smoke on the water" stuff, maybe the best ever. This band is *tight*. You
may have to look in the cd racks under "P" because the packaging isn't
clear on just who the artist is, and what the title is. I have seen a bin
card reading, "Purpendicular" as if that were the name of the band.
On another Purple note, I saw a tribute to Purple (not the "Smoke on the
Water" one done by the LA Blues Authority w/Yngwie, etc.) by the New York
Crew or something like that. It has Tony McAlpine, Vernon Reid, etc. Has
anyone heard this one? It sounds interesting, but if it's the same old
by-the-numbers tribute, I don't want to waste my cash.
For some reason, I want baseball season to start. I hate myself for that,
because after the strike I had totally blocked out any desire to care.
I guess my Capitalist Brainwashing runs deeper than I had originally
imagined.
GO WINGS!
Kevin
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:10:43 -0600
From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: ATG
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970322171043.0075e0d0@mail.inlink.com>
hey all, i was out cd shoppin' last night, and picked up a band i've been
wanting to for a while, having heard good things but never heard them. At
The Gates: the cd is Slaughter of the Soul. these guys simply shred, i
think this may take over morbid angel's Altars of Madness for my favorite
death cd of all times. they really know how to do it. fast, and furiously.
11 tracks, 34 minutes running time. ahhhh :) they also lighten up on two
tracks, one halfway through the cd which is a mixture of classical guitar
and interesting melodic work, and one at the end of the cd, which is kind of
a gothic but not "gothic" as in the music label but just really demonic and
cool tune. so to all you bangers out there, you must hear these guys. :)
later on
~Rip
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 13:26:11 -0500
From: Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com>
To: "'(Ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Live Shows
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=bostech%l=CARRIER-970322182611Z-130@carrier.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
This is a decent thread to start even if it has minimal DT content and
could quickly decompose into a top-5 kind of thing. The really
unbelievable thing is that the two best performances that I have seen
are jazz.
Spyro Gyra in about 1977 at some grungy bar outside Buffalo (note DT
content because of Jay Beckenstein). Then the Pat Metheny Group in
Cambridge MA around 1987 (second show). The amazing thing is that both
of these bands have the image in some circles as being wushy and both
were "experimenting" with new music in a small setting. Well, here's
for more experiments as they both played like mad. It continues to
astonish me why the live CDs from these bands (especially Metheny) dont
have at least some of these type of performances included. The word
intensity was redefined.
Separately, are there any jam pre "Heaven in 97" get togethers planned
??
You know, like "lets meet at the Trinity pub" ........
Later,
Mark Metzger
mmetzger@bostech.com
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 13:33:16 -0500
From: buster@ee.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Page & Stickers
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970322183316.006a9eec@ee.net>
Couple things, DTC:
1. Does anyone know where I can get DT windows stickers and other
stuff? Only thing on the Lifting Shadows Merchandise page is
fix 96 hats and t's....if you know of anything else, please
shoot me an email: buster@ee.net
2. The folks handling the Lifting Shadows site ( http://www.rsabbs.com/dt/ )
have done a kick-ass job! I really like the graphical concepts,
way to go guys!!
Take care,
buster
http://users1.ee.net/buster
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 20:34:03 +0100
From: "Nils Andersson" <nils.g.andersson@mbox330.swipnet.se>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Savatage gets it done....
Message-ID: <199703221932.UAA09933@gaia.swip.net>
Well....What about that subject?
I couldnīt come up with a suitable one so...
Anyway....Savatage is my favoriteband and therefor I have dedicated my
homepage to them.
Why do I tell you this?? I donīt know.....
I often hear complaints about Savatage and their ability to NOT tour the
states.
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Whenīs the next tour then? Well, this I have also heard:
The new Savatage album is due to be released this summer.
The album hasnīt got a name yet, but whatever it may be, it surely will be
great to hear it.
Now, people say that itīs going to be a hard task to make a better album
than DWD, but I think thatīs no problem...Since my favorite album STILL is
"Hall Of The Mountain King"........
So...No matter what kinda album they come up with, I have a hard time
believing they can make a better album that "HOMK".........
Go see my web winter dead if youīre inta Savatage.....
See Ya..........
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"Still The Orchestra Plays....."
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:34:54 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: ATG
Message-ID: <199703222213.OAA23836@odin.ax.com>
> hey all, i was out cd shoppin' last night, and picked up a band i've been
> wanting to for a while, having heard good things but never heard them. At
> The Gates: the cd is Slaughter of the Soul. these guys simply shred, i
> think this may take over morbid angel's Altars of Madness for my favorite
> death cd of all times. they really know how to do it. fast, and furiously.
> 11 tracks, 34 minutes running time. ahhhh :) they also lighten up on two
HAHAHAH!
I just picked this one up in a used CD bin just this last week. It
looked pretty kewl on the cover and the songs didn't seem too bad,
but I started listening and there was this Barney (Napalm Death
Barney) shouting at me. Giving it a listen though, I think I'd have
really liked these guys more if the production were better. :)
Still not bad if you can enjoy real heavy stuff.
The lyrics are pretty kewl, too. :)
KorgX3 a.k.a. ibanez@cyberhighway.net
http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ibanez/index.html
Disclaimer:
The content expressed in the previous document is
not the opinion of the author. The author is exonerated
of anything written therein. Viewer discretion is
advised.
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:27:01 -0800
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Megadeth Stage Stasis
Message-ID: <199703222327.PAA11718@gms.gmsnet.com>
Well... I've seen Megadeth at least 6 times... 4 times in one year... and
they are energetic... to a point... like any other band I suppose... but
their sound is never consistent...
Dave doesn't move that much since he's singing of course, but while he
isn't he's a headbanger...
-The Doc
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:28:10 -0800
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Now I'm PISSED!
Message-ID: <199703222328.PAA11730@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, Mamalookabubuday said:
>>Listen fucknut, I consider myself (along with Chris Ptacek) to be among the
>>most vocal supporters of the position you are railing against,
>
>Well, you're just one fucking perfect individual aren't you? WHY THE FUCK DO YOU
>FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO FORCE YOUR OPINIONS DOWN OTHERS' THROAT? You're worse than
>a reformed smoker or a born again Christian. You feel you are the moral right &
>you're not gonna quit until everyone follows you, oh great Messiah! well
>FUCK YOU! You don't like it then too fucking bad. Just accept the fact that not
>everyone's going to agree with you and get on with it.
Alright guys... time to go to e-mail...
-The Doc
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 16:22:03 -0800
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@m5.sprynet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Wo0h0o!
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970322162203.0068edd8@m5.sprynet.com>
>An unrelated question: Can some of you double-bass drummers out there
>tell me how you approach perfecting your double-bass drum playing? Do
>you plant your heels all the time and work on speed and consistency or
>do you play with your heels up using the balls of your feet or do you
>switch back and forth depending on the speed you need? Inquiring minds
>would like to know.
>
>God Bless,
>
>Michael C.
Cogy!!! Long time no see! Anywho, when I play double bass, i usually always
play heels up, with balls of my feet. For slower parts, where heels down
might be considered...I usually just try to play that with one foot. i.e.,
the double bass speed under "but don't cut your losses too sooooon.." in
6:00. On a good day I can actually play that one-footed. It's easier for me
to keep it steady that way. Actually, now that i think about it, I play
heel up all the time with double and single feet, with the possible
exception of playing jazz, where I'll play heel down to keep the volume down.
Bye! :)
Ben Laussade isn't wearing any pants.
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 19:20:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Seth Casale <casals@Sage.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2379
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970322190732.10792A-100000@zeus>
hi jammers.
i was wondering if anyone coul help me out here. i was hoping to find
another list do discuss music. maybe a more general list with no
particlar band to focus on.
as for prog music, labels are in the eyes of the labeller, and to
one person, pearl jam could be the utmost in music that challenges their
ideals and morals, while someone else might think they are cheesy.
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 19:30:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Seth Casale <casals@Sage.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: prog means...
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970322192820.10792C-100000@zeus>
i think maybe prog means show everybody how good you are. i dont see a
lot of feeling in prog of today. there was when we had kansas, and
others from back in the day.
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 23:39:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Awake77@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Go to this page, down load the files, NOW!
Message-ID: <970322233915_-1303923748@emout07.mail.aol.com>
Hey,
Anyone reading this must go here:
http://www.channel1.com/users/wacky
And download all the samples! Its Brian Wherry's homepage, and if you
havent heard his stuff by now, you should. It's some of the slickest stuff
I've heard in a while, and as we all hunger for new prog constantly, I
strongly urge everyone to boogie on over to
http://www.channel1.com/users/wacky and start downloading some .Wav
files. You sure as hell wont be disappointed, and you will definately be
impressed.
-Chris DiGiuseppe
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 20:50:25 -0800 (PST)
From: "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Have I been booted out?
Message-ID: <199703230450.UAA08060@f6.hotmail.com>
I just got a message from the list manager saying I've been unsubscribed from
Ytsejam.
Why? And how do I get back on?
Please send any responses directly to me instead to the list, since I obviously
don't get it anymore!
Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss,
Eric Paul LaRue
"Take hold of the flame.
Don't you see life's a game?
So take hold of the flame.
You've got nothing to lose, but everything to gain!"
Queensrĸche-"Take Hold of the Flame"
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6289
"We're on a mission from God."-Blues Brothers
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