YTSEJAM Digest 2532
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2531
by Kramer <CK78729@ltu.edu>
2) Limited Edition Rudess/Morgenstein Disk Available.
by Michael Pomerleau <michael_pomerleau@snet.net>
3) a quickie.
by the-atman@juno.com (d a v)
4) Re: Metallica
by MASTER BLASTER <pawlak@wam.umd.edu>
5)
by jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk)
6) Re: Spock's Beard CD's
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
7) Re: QR - opening band? Their future?
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
8) Spock's
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
9) A big, happy, chewable Flinstones Vitamin (Cherry-flavored Dino
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
10) Superior extra song
by Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
11) KTS
by Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
12) NDTC - the movie
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
13) ARGH! (No DTC)
by LoneWolf <e8825527@student.tuwien.ac.at>
14) RESULTS ARE IN FOR TOP TEN CD SURVEY!!
by Jonathan Case <jcase@BERGERON.METR.uoknor.edu>
15) IN THE STUDIO
by richard@capitale.qc.ca (Richard James)
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2531
by Purplerx7@aol.com
17) SUMMER break
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
18) Great DT story - what a small world
by Brian Anderson <bda109@email.psu.edu>
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Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 23:29:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kramer <CK78729@ltu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2531
Message-ID: <01IIHMPLAWRM8ZECDW@LTU.EDU>
>>As for opening bands for Queensryche, why not have Type O Negative open.
> How about because they suck (and their frontman even admits it)?
>I'm glad it was still light enough during their set to see my _Promised
>Land_ tourbook; Type O Negative was bor-ing.
Funny how opinions can differ. The only reason I went to see that show
was because Type O was there. I didn't even bother to stick around for
the GR encores.
They couldn't open for GR now anyways 'cause they are doing the Ozzfest
thing.
-C#
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Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 23:45:04 -0400
From: Michael Pomerleau <michael_pomerleau@snet.net>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Limited Edition Rudess/Morgenstein Disk Available.
Message-ID: <336D57C0.553540F4@snet.net>
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Apparently Dream Theater is not the only band anxious to get their new
material out into the hands of their fans, I just got this message from
Jordan Rudess regarding the Rudess/Morgenstein Disk, and figured I would
pass it on to you fellow Jammers in case you were interested.
<BR>--------------------------------------
<BR>
<BR>Hello Friends,
<BR>
<BR>Hey everyone, Here's the news... After much discussion, Rod Morgenstein
<BR>and I have decided to make available (for a limited time) the new
<BR>Rudess/Morgenstein CD in a pre-release autographed CDR version (Without
the
<BR>official artwork). These CD's will be made in my own studio (with
love)
<BR>one at a time. If you are interested in getting one please
send $25.00
<BR>to;
<BR>
<BR>Bamo Productions
<BR>PO. Box 13
<BR>Plainview N.Y.
<BR>11803
<BR>
<BR>That will include postage.
<BR>
<BR>If you have any questions please feel free to write.
<BR>
<BR>Musically,
<BR>Jordan
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>Jordan Rudess
<BR>Visit my personal web site at <http://www.bway.net/~jordan>
<BR>
<BR>
One likes to believe ****
In the freedom of music
<BR>
But glittering prizes
** And endless compromises
<BR>
Shatter the illusion
* of integrity
<BR>
RUSH
<BR>
(Peart)
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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 23:42:03 -0500
From: the-atman@juno.com (d a v)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: a quickie.
Message-ID: <19970504.235012.12318.17.the-atman@juno.com>
didn't MP suggest an album by Spocks Beard????? i've still as yet to
hear of them and can't find anything on them to save my butt. i've asked
all the stores round here and same thing...Who?? never heard of em.
thanks
dave
Music is an inspiration to our existence. We live, love, and learn
through a beautiful harmony that comes from within.
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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 00:57:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: MASTER BLASTER <pawlak@wam.umd.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Metallica
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95q.970505005545.5352A-100000@rac8.wam.umd.edu>
Hi,
Something very similar happened in DC when Metallica played. Only
here, they made it look like the guy on the catwalk called and was
strangled on a cable or something.
In other words, Metallica intended it to like the show was all
screwed up. Perhaps at you show something actually did go wrong, beyond
that.
My $0.02
Craig
To live, man must hold three things as the supreme and ruling values
of his life: Reason -- Purpose -- Self-esteem.
-- Reason, as his only tool of knowledge
-- Purpose, as his choide of the happiness which that tool must
proceed to achieve
-- Self-esteem, as his inviolate certainty that his mind is competent
to think and his person is worthy of happiness, which means: is worthy
of living.
Ayn Rand
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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 01:09:33 -0400
From: jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <v01540b00af9318cf1085@[128.197.8.21]>
>Kevin Smith, he is the man. Chasing Amy is his best work yet. Not
>only did he take his comedy to the extreme but he actually involved a
>plot, a taboo plot at that.
_Mallrats_ has a plot.
>So, if you live on LI (or close
>to it) and are up for doing something Saturday night with a bunch of
>Dream Theater freaks (or just plain old freaks ;)
Hey now, the Digital Man is not a freak. (Oh, wait, he's read Ayn
Rand, so I guess he is.)
>Actually, now that you mention it, the best opening band would be:
>
>NO opening band!
>
>Think about it; they already play for about 2:15 anyway, take out
>the opening band and add :30 to the QR set. They could do it like
>Rush and break it up into two sets if they wanted.
I'd love that as much as you would, Mr. Cook. The only question
is, can Queensryche sell as many tickets without an opening act as Rush
can?
>This way, the bandwagon jumpers who only liked them for Empire
They aren't seeing Queensryche anymore. (Actually, if "Sign of the
Times" and future singles get more exposure, maybe they'll actually come
back. But it won't be soon enough to drop the opening act and play two
sets.)
>EROTOMANIA!!!
>
>There's just one problem.
>
>He didn't play Erotomania by "Dream Theater."
>
>He played Erotomania by "Dream Theatre."
>
>Oh well. Nobody's perfect.
I've been looking for this Dream Theatre band for awhile, but every
time I find their name in a record store, they only have Dream Theater
CD's. According to the ads for Fates Warning's new album, Kevin Moore was
in Dream Theatre as well as Dream Theater. And isn't it odd that the other
band has a song called "Erotomania"? Next thing we'll know, they're from
Long Island and have an internet mailing list devoted to them.
Jeff Falk
Box 3208
700 Commonwealth Avenue
Boston, Massachusetts 02215
(617) 352-8639
jefffalk@bu.edu
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Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 01:44:21 EDT
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Spock's Beard CD's
Message-ID: <19970504.224613.8678.3.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
At the CD Warehouse in Sunnyvale, CA they have a copy of
Live - The Official Bootleg, or something like that. It's $14.99
Scott
On Sun, 4 May 1997 22:03:04 -0700 (PDT) the-atman@juno.com (d a v)
writes:
>didn't MP suggest an album by Spocks Beard????? i've still as yet to
>hear of them and can't find anything on them to save my butt. i've
>asked all the stores round here and same thing...Who?? never heard of
em.
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Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 01:44:21 EDT
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: QR - opening band? Their future?
Message-ID: <19970504.224613.8678.4.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
>I'd love that as much as you would, Mr. Cook. The only
>question is, can Queensryche sell as many tickets without an
>opening act as Rush can?
Well, QR isn't even playing SF from what I understand, so that
probably answers your question. But how many people do an
opening band add anyway considering they play less than an
hour and most fans of a band want a :75-:90 or longer set by
them anyway. It definitely adds some, but is it enough to justify
the addition?
>They aren't seeing Queensryche anymore. (Actually, if "Sign
>of the Times" and future singles get more exposure, maybe they'll
>actually come back. But it won't be soon enough to drop the
>opening act and play two sets.)
I might get scorched hard for this but "it's gotta be said." If this
tour doesn't do well then I think this band's gonna call it a day.
There will be the obligatory compilation with two unreleased
trax or a live CD, but I really feel like this is the last chance to
see them. I hope I'm wrong and if it makes someone feel better
to flame me then go ahead, but it's a definite possibility.
Well, in about 12 hours I'm off to Chicago. Maybe I can score a
ticket for the game 1 of the Bulls/Hawks series. Yeah, and Donkeys
might fly out of my butt :)
Scott
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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 02:05:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Spock's
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970505015734.4019A-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Sun, 4 May 1997, d a v wrote:
> didn't MP suggest an album by Spocks Beard????? i've still as yet to
> hear of them and can't find anything on them to save my butt. i've asked
> all the stores round here and same thing...Who?? never heard of em.
Try http://www.altura.com/jordanz/spocks_beard for starters. Great page.
You'll have to mail order the discs (there are 3), but it's *well* worth
it.
-d
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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 00:32:01 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: A big, happy, chewable Flinstones Vitamin (Cherry-flavored Dino
Message-ID: <199705050631.XAA07016@odin.ax.com>
> >This way, the bandwagon jumpers who only liked them for Empire
Hey! I'm one of those bandwagon jumpers! but then I've delved back
and learned to like Rage for Order more than any other album they've
made and I like PL alot and the new one's a badass album in it's own
right. Empire was a good starting point for people to get into them.
Here in Idaho, Queensryche was pretty much unknown till Empire came
out since the only outlets for new music before the net were MTV and
radio. I did hear a couple QR songs from Mindcrime on the radio back
then, but wasn't a big enuff music freak back then to jump on it
either... :)
Jammers! Our calling is here. What we must do is infiltrate a
jammer into every radio station across the country. Some have begun,
but we must do it soon. Imagine the impact of having a jammer as a
VJ on MTV! We could rule the world! Or at least subdued teenage
America. :)
> I've been looking for this Dream Theatre band for awhile, but every
> time I find their name in a record store, they only have Dream Theater
> CD's. According to the ads for Fates Warning's new album, Kevin Moore was
> in Dream Theatre as well as Dream Theater. And isn't it odd that the other
> band has a song called "Erotomania"? Next thing we'll know, they're from
> Long Island and have an internet mailing list devoted to them.
I could almost help you there. There's a Dream Theatre section in
the local Hasting's, but they must be a good band since there's never
any CDs by them in it. They must sell out quickly. It just pisses
me off that they don't even give Dream Theater their own marker and
just dump em in right after the Dream Theatre one. DREAM THEATER
DESERVES THEIR OWN TAG DAMMIT! It's not even alphabetical... The
nerve...
I'm a Flinstones kid! Ten Million Strong! (And growing...)
"Dreams CAN come true as long as you stay awake."
KorgX3 a.k.a. Llama-boy
ibanez@cyberhighway.net
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Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 09:08:01 +0200
From: Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Superior extra song
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970505090801.007eb770@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi!
>From: alexis1@prtc.net (alexis1)
>Subject: a few things
>Hey people, I have a few questions and comments:
>
>1) I was going through the Knights of the Round Table catalog yesterday
>and I noticed that both Behind by Superior and APSOG had versions with one
>extra song. Any info on how these songs are, if they really exist?
There is NO EXTRA SONG on this CD! I don't know why they say that there
is one... it's the same CD as all the others...
Just wanted to clear this up...
Bye.
Bernd
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Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 11:26:46 -0400
From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: KTS
Message-ID: <199705051526.AA15259@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hello,
If anyone has an e-mail address for KIss The Stone, other than that
glenn@kts.it, could you send it to me? I would appreciate the
assistance. Sorry to clutter...
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Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 11:53:44 -0400 From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NDTC - the movie Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970505155344.0067bab0@ici.net>
>1) I was going through the Knights of the Round Table catalog yesterday >and I noticed that both Behind by Superior and APSOG had versions with one >extra song. Any info on how these songs are, if they really exist?
Hmm....APSOG with an extra song.....must be a double CD then, right? :)
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>And since D and I haven't >seen each other in a while, we are planning on going out for some >(lots?) drinks on Saturday Night May 10th.
And anyone *not* in the LI area, but in the Greater Boston area, the Boston Brewers Festival is Saturday, May 10th from 12-4pm and 8-12pm. If you like beer, then this is a "must go". 150 breweries, over 400 different beers to sample. I will be going to the 8-12pm show, so if you're going to go, let me know who to look for. :)
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__<psull@ici.net>__http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html IRC: DDictator Now Playing: Fates Warning - A Pleasant Shade Of Gray _________________________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 19:08:50 +0000 From: LoneWolf <e8825527@student.tuwien.ac.at> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ARGH! (No DTC) Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970505190850.0068ff08@stud1.tuwien.ac.at>
Just a simple ARGH !!! I am depressed like hell ! Fuck !
Wolf.
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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 12:20:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Jonathan Case <jcase@BERGERON.METR.uoknor.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RESULTS ARE IN FOR TOP TEN CD SURVEY!! Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.970505121748.20902B-100000@bergeron>
I recieved a modest 44 e-mails of top ten lists of all-time favorite CDs. I ranked them, weighing #1 with 10 points, down to number 10 with 1 point. I tallied all the points, and have the results on my home page:
Simply scroll below my picture, and you'll find a link to the file which has the results. Nothing fancy, but will suffice for now!
ENJOY and thanks for the responses.
-Jon Case
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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 14:40:49 +0500 From: richard@capitale.qc.ca (Richard James) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: IN THE STUDIO Message-ID: <9705051840.AA19508@jason.qc.ca>
anybody knows when they will be in the studio (the real date) for the new CD and what studion it will be?
rj
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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 14:52:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Purplerx7@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2531 Message-ID: <970505145229_153991950@emout18.mail.aol.com>
I am interested in buying the subconsious CD.
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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 20:52:58 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: SUMMER break Message-ID: <01BC5996.7C95F4A0@Checkov.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
I HATE it when people leave an unused email addresss subscribed to a mailinglist :-/
> This user has his/her e-mail account disabled because it is our > school's SUMMER break.
That would be Ramon L. Gaddi :-) (found one of his posts on Ytsejam #2311)
> Should you need assistance, please mail helpdesk@mail.dlsu.edu.ph
I just asked for them to unsub Ramon from the Ytsejam :->
Mark ____________________________________________________bredius@globalxs.nl__ Would someone please let me know how we _ _____ ___ _ _ __ __ have spun out of control ? |:||_.:._|/:._]|:]_[:|\.\_/./ Has the captain let go of the wheel ? |:| |:| (.:(_ |:___:| \_::/ (Queensryche - Sign of the Times) |_| [_] \___]|_] [_| [__/ _________________________________________________________________________ Itchy's Homepage - http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/
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Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 15:59:02 -0400 From: Brian Anderson <bda109@email.psu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Great DT story - what a small world Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970505155902.0069a254@email.psu.edu>
Ok, so my roomate and I are out celebrating the end of classes. We're at a bar here at PSU, and my roomate is wearing his ACOS shirt from the home for the holidays shows. All of the sudden this girl points at my roomates shirt and says, "My brother is the drummer!", and my roomate and I are like, "are you f*cking kidding me, we've heard about you!" (We had had a few drinks at this point in the night) So basically we were totally amazed. Couldn't believe it. She couldn't believe it either. She was up for the weekend because one of her friends was getting engaged. (She graduated from PSU by the way) She took our picture and everything. Anway, she said that we were the only people she'd met at PSU that had heard of DT, except for this DJ who played DT when she was here. And we said, we met him once. Side story: Two years ago at the home for the holidays shows, before the Birch Hell show, we were eating at the Fantasia diner with a buch of you other jammers, and we were sitting with this guy from Alabany (are you still on the jam?, forgot you're name) who said that he wen't to PSU and was a DJ, and that when he was playing DT (this is back in the WDADU days), a girl called him up and said that she was Portnoy's sister. So, we had known for a couple years that Portnoy's sister had graduated from here, and out of nowhere we run into her at a bar. Good thing my roomate was wearing his shirt, or we would have never known. She told us that she had just become an aunt a couple days earlier, which we didn't know at the time. She also said that they have no idea who that kid was on the cover of ACOS. She said he looked like a kid they grew up with, but they didn't know who he was. Anway, I'm still amazed that we ran into her. Just goes to show: Always wear your DT shirts, I do . . . usually.
Back to the jam:
-Brian Anderson
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