YTSEJAM Digest 2533
Today's Topics:
1)
by Nathan Andrew Bova <bova@Oswego.EDU>
2) fates warning bootlegs
by Nathan Andrew Bova <bova@Oswego.EDU>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2532
by "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
4) YTSEJAM digest 2.532 * 10^3
by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
5) APSoG extra track
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
6) Re: APSoG extra track
by mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
7) Canadian Fates
by The Artist Currently Known as MMO <mmo@direct.ca>
8) Mike Kizer/Fates Question
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
9) Ride the Lightning
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
10) NEW MAGELLAN!!
by wax@sprynet.com
11) New 7 Strings from Ibanez!!!
by "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com>
12) Re: New 7 Strings from Ibanez!!!
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
13) Help! Need Jam #2530
by MTeiper@aol.com
14) Extra EJ ticket for DC show
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
15) Santana & Neal Schon
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
16) Re: APSoG extra track
by breitweg@fusebox.hanse.de (Jason T. Breitweg)
17) Re: Mike Kizer/Fates Question
by breitweg@fusebox.hanse.de (Jason T. Breitweg)
18) Enchant & Conception
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
19) Re: Mike Kizer/Fates Question
by Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
20) Re: Mike Kizer/Fates Question
by "Lauren Glenn" <LGlenn@quadnet.net>
21) Dutch 'jammers!
by erasm58@cicrp.jussieu.fr (Ties GOEBEL)
22) possible good news..........
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
23) Re: Mike Kizer/Fates Question
by mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:23:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nathan Andrew Bova <bova@Oswego.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970505152307.6063C-100000@rocky-gw.oswego.edu>
"and i know we're not children anymore, innocence lost in a shade of gray.
but i often wonder what else could be, and i still dream of running away"
-Fates Warning
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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:24:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nathan Andrew Bova <bova@Oswego.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: fates warning bootlegs
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970505152341.6063D-100000@rocky-gw.oswego.edu>
does anybody out there have fates warning boots they'd be willing
to dub? thanks a lot.
nate bova
"and i know we're not children anymore, innocence lost in a shade of gray.
but i often wonder what else could be, and i still dream of running away"
-Fates Warning
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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:53:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2532
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970505154156.21718B-100000@bu-ast.bu.edu>
On Mon, 5 May 1997 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> YTSEJAM Digest 2532
> From: Michael Pomerleau <michael_pomerleau@snet.net>
> Subject: Limited Edition Rudess/Morgenstein Disk Available.
> Apparently Dream Theater is not the only band anxious to get their new
> material out into the hands of their fans, I just got this message from
> Jordan Rudess regarding the Rudess/Morgenstein Disk, and figured I would
> pass it on to you fellow Jammers in case you were interested.
<html deleted>
Cool!!!!! I'm there!, now I just have to scrape up $25.00...
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>
> From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
> Subject: Re: QR - opening band? Their future?
>
> I might get scorched hard for this but "it's gotta be said." If this
> tour doesn't do well then I think this band's gonna call it a day.
> There will be the obligatory compilation with two unreleased
> trax or a live CD, but I really feel like this is the last chance to
> see them. I hope I'm wrong and if it makes someone feel better
> to flame me then go ahead, but it's a definite possibility.
I would agree, and I like QR. They have been losing steam since
O:M. It's Only A Matter of Time, in the wrong direction. But, we shall
see... the summer isn't over yet. I hope they pick a good opening act.
They have a real tendency to pick opening acts that don't fit the genre
of music they play. But, from the list on the QR fanclub site, it
doesn't look good, unless of course, DT opens. But that looks impossible.
> -----
>
>And Skadz sayeth:
>And since D and I haven't
>seen each other in a while, we are planning on going out for some
>(lots?) drinks on Saturday Night May 10th.
Dammit guys, I gots my comprehensives next week! *Grumble*
Murphy strikes again!!
-jeremy(T33rd on the most poster's list last month)
The Murphy Philosophy:
Smile.... Tomorrow will be worse.
+=====================================================================+
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# Boston, MA 02134 # I'd risk it all to have wings #
# Astronomy # I know if I try, I'll get where I'm going #
#<*> Jeremy Hallum <*># keeping my eyes on the sky" #
#<*> jhallum@bu.edu <*># -Queensryche, "Some people Fly" #
#<*>jhallum@dreamt.org <*># http://bu-ast.bu.edu/~jhallum/ #
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Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 15:08:31 -0500
From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 2.532 * 10^3
Message-ID: <336E3E3F.613F@auburn.net>
> Anyway, I'm still amazed that we ran into her. Just goes to show:
> Always wear your DT shirts, I do . . . usually.
But pants are optional. Right, Ben? :)
Mark Peters
swifty@auburn.net
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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:12:41 -0500 (CDT)
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: APSoG extra track
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.970505151035.24461F-100000@enteract.com>
I hesitate to believe that a copy of APSoG with an extra track exists.
It's possible that it would as an import, but I'd bet the farm that there
is no extra track.
Who was advertising this? We already have proof that Superior said
there's no extra track. Do I smell a fraud? A Hoax? Bait n' Switch of
progressive proportions? :) Someone should contact whoever is
advertising this stuff, and correct them immediately.
Chris Ptacek at EnterAct, L.L.C -- (773) 248 8511
http://www.enteract.com (business)
http://www.prognosis.com/madsman/ (personal site under construction)
"I'm a dead sucker for nostalgic revisitations of past
evocations of the future" - Mike Keneally
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Date: Mon, 05 May 97 14:24:13 PST8
From: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: APSoG extra track
Message-ID: <9704058628.AA862867704@CCGATE.HAC.COM>
>I hesitate to believe that a copy of APSoG with an extra track exists.
>It's possible that it would as an import, but I'd bet the farm that
>there is no extra track.
I', checking with my contact at Metal Blade, I fon't think there is an
extra track either, but there is a digi-pak version of the CD in
Europe...
>"I'm a dead sucker for nostalgic revisitations of past
>evocations of the future" - Mike Keneally
i just picked up Half Alive in Hollywood from his Beer For Dolphins
project... pretty bizzare stuff, but can that boy play <G>... Which of
his solo CDs do you have? Hat or Boil That Dust Spec? Trying to decide
which one I want to get next...
~Mike
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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:38:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: The Artist Currently Known as MMO <mmo@direct.ca>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Canadian Fates
Message-ID: <199705052238.PAA02141@aphex.direct.ca>
I just through a local record outlet that the Canadian release date
for the new Fates Warning CD has been pushed back to May 20.
Can anyone confirm this???
I still havent heard this cd and Im pissed!!!
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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:51:23 -0700
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mike Kizer/Fates Question
Message-ID: <199705052251.PAA26961@gms.gmsnet.com>
So Mike...
What're they chanting in VIII??
-The Doc
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Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 17:23:21 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ride the Lightning Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970505172321.007a25e0@pop.u.arizona.edu>
Anyone have a live bootleg of Metallica playing the ENTIRE song "Ride the Lightning"? If so, let me know through private e-mail. Thanks.
vgl@u.arizona.edu obscuredude@geocities.com
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 21:31:34 -0400 From: wax@sprynet.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NEW MAGELLAN!! Message-ID: <336E89F6.53D1@sprynet.com>
Mere hours, my Ytse friends!!
Our Test of Wills is nearly over. I've had my new Magellan on order from CDnow for over a week and am taking the day off tomorrow exclusively to blow the walls out of this place...
I can't remember when I've anticipated a new album more - Oh wait, there was this one awesome band once that did a couple killer albums. I forget the name, but I vaguely recall a single called "Pull Me Under" and a record company that enjoyed preserving their thumbs in their own assholes...
'Nuff said. -- "The man who hath no music in himself, Nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, Is fit for treasons, strategems, and spoils; The motions of his spirit are as dull as night, And his affections dark as Erebus, Let no such man be trusted." --William Shakespeare (From "Under the Wire" by Magellan) ^ long signature file to annoy those who hate such things
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Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 19:13:34 PDT From: "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New 7 Strings from Ibanez!!! Message-ID: <199705060213.TAA23784@f8.hotmail.com>
HEY!!!!!!! Ibanez is releasing a 7 string version of the RG guitar series!!!! Check it out.....
Laterz, kevin hammer http://www.getaway.net/khammer/
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Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 20:21:20 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: New 7 Strings from Ibanez!!! Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970505202120.007bd390@pop.u.arizona.edu>
> Ibanez is releasing a 7 string version of the RG guitar series!!!! >http://www.ibanez.com
Yeah, there's an ad in the new Guitar for the practicing musician too. Same purple color as Eckie's RG in the ad.
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 23:30:12 -0400 (EDT) From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Help! Need Jam #2530 Message-ID: <970505232932_1920513470@emout08.mail.aol.com>
Hi Friends -
If anyone would be so kind as to forward me Jam #2530, I'd be greatly appreciative. Mine must have gotten lost somewhere in the shuffle... Damn America Off-Line!!! :P
Cheerz... Matt T.
Now Playing: Overkill "Wrecking Your Neck LIVE" - Out Fooking Standing!!!!!!!
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Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 01:34:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Extra EJ ticket for DC show Message-ID: <199705060534.BAA07286@umbc10.umbc.edu>
Hi gang. There is a chance that I might have an extra ticket for the Eric Johnson show this Thursday night at the 9:30 Club in DC. Please e-mail me if you are interested.
Thanks!
-- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \ / / L. Jason Hartman "And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend \ \ lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu And I'll never be open again / / And I'll have no more dreams to defend \ \ Univ. Of Maryland, And I'll never be open again " / / Baltimore County - Kevin Moore : Dream Theater \ \ / / "Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot." \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 01:07:29 -0700 From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com To: freaks@ax.com, ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Santana & Neal Schon Message-ID: <199705060807.BAA00159@ms.kallback.com>
If anyone is into Santana and/or Neal Schon, you should check out the new cd by Abraxas Pool. It's essentially the original members of Santana except Carlos Santana.
FYI, Trevor a/k/a wideboy
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Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 07:02:22 GMT From: breitweg@fusebox.hanse.de (Jason T. Breitweg) Subject: Re: APSoG extra track Message-ID: <ubg1w184n5.fsf@fusebox.hanse.de>
Mike> I', checking with my contact at Metal Blade, I fon't Mike> think there is an extra track either, but there is a Mike> digi-pak version of the CD in Europe...
I have the digi-pack version (that is all I could find here in Germany) and there is no sign of an extra song. Just that alarm clock to wake me up after I have fallen asleep *evil grin*.
Jason -- Jason Breitweg --> breitweg@amzeus.desy.de, jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg, http://lobelia.physics.wisc.edu/jbreitwe "The Gods Made Heavy Metal And It's Never Gonna Die!" - MANOWAR
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Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 07:04:17 GMT From: breitweg@fusebox.hanse.de (Jason T. Breitweg) Subject: Re: Mike Kizer/Fates Question Message-ID: <ubenbl84jy.fsf@fusebox.hanse.de>
> So Mike...
> What're they chanting in VIII??
Ok, I am not Mike but here goes. If it is the part I am thiinking of it is a German crowd chanting "zugabe". The folks do that here when they want to hear more songs (basically asking for the encore). Hope that helps. I don't actually know how it literally translates. Any help from you Kraut jammers out there? *grin*
Jason -- Jason Breitweg --> breitweg@amzeus.desy.de, jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg, http://lobelia.physics.wisc.edu/jbreitwe "The Gods Made Heavy Metal And It's Never Gonna Die!" - MANOWAR
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Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 02:55:44 -0700 From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Enchant & Conception Message-ID: <199705060955.CAA00153@ms.kallback.com>
Anyone else disappointed with the new Conception and Enchant? They're both not bad, just not as good as expected. Now I'll have to see how the new Magellan is.
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Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 05:54:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Mike Kizer/Fates Question Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95L.970506055319.529B-100000@unix18.andrew.cmu.edu>
On Tue, 6 May 1997, Jason T. Breitweg wrote:
> > So Mike... > > > What're they chanting in VIII?? > > Ok, I am not Mike but here goes. If it is the part I am thiinking of > it is a German crowd chanting "zugabe". The folks do that here when > they want to hear more songs (basically asking for the encore). Hope > that helps. I don't actually know how it literally translates. Any > help from you Kraut jammers out there? *grin* > To me it sounds more like "no hope." I can't really hear a z in there...is it a silent z? :)>
-maximilian
Anton Max MadMax+@cmu.edu http://thunderdome.pc.cs.cmu.edu/aepithex.html
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Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 08:32:50 -0400 From: "Lauren Glenn" <LGlenn@quadnet.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Mike Kizer/Fates Question Message-ID: <199705061235.IAA29126@mail.quadnet.net>
---- From: Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Date: Tuesday, May 06, 1997 06:31 Subject: Re: Mike Kizer/Fates Question
>On Tue, 6 May 1997, Jason T. Breitweg wrote: > >> > So Mike... >> >> > What're they chanting in VIII?? >> >> Ok, I am not Mike but here goes. If it is the part I am thiinking of >> it is a German crowd chanting "zugabe". The folks do that here when >> they want to hear more songs (basically asking for the encore). Hope >> that helps. I don't actually know how it literally translates. Any >> help from you Kraut jammers out there? *grin* >> >To me it sounds more like "no hope." I can't really hear a z in >there...is it a silent z? :)> >
When I first heard it, I thought that they were chanting "Kevin.... Kevin...... " for Kevin Moore.
Lauren
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Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 14:34:31 +0200 (DFT) From: erasm58@cicrp.jussieu.fr (Ties GOEBEL) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dutch 'jammers! Message-ID: <9705061234.AA18272@ibm1.cicrp.jussieu.fr>
Hi Dutch 'jammers, I need your help! I'm looking for someone who can record the performance of The Gathering on Radio 3, "Denk an Henk", 14.5. ! I would pay or trade some DT stuff for a copy. Contact me at erasm58@cicrp.jussieu.fr if you can help (though I won't be able to answer your mail before the 12th, 'cause my weekend now begins... :) Thanks! Ties
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Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 09:36:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: possible good news.......... Message-ID: <199705061337.GAA24006@odin.ax.com>
I just realized (damn I'm getting old) that the summer is coming up and that school is out.....that means a lot of 'Jammers won't be on during the summer........
Could this mean less cluttered 'Jams and less flame wars?!?!?!?! It's already getting better.............just wishful thinking I guess.....
By the way, if NY/NJ jammers wanna get together (I know that Mr. Forcierwas trying too) it should definitely be set up someplace in NYC - I know this place called Fantazia II that would be perfect! :P
-Al
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Date: Tue, 06 May 97 08:09:02 PST8 From: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Mike Kizer/Fates Question Message-ID: <9704068629.AA862931560@CCGATE.HAC.COM>
>So Mike... >What're they chanting in VIII?? Well, I forwarded this question to the intrepid (and often fanatical) Rush Fan Detective Network (RFDN), who has been trying to decypher the chanting mob noises in Witch Hunt for over a decade. Using the most sophisticated equipment, and arguing amongst themselves (usually in circles) all night long they came up with this theory: The crowd noises in APSoG, when played backwards and at a slightly lower pitch, exactly match those crowd/mob noises in Witch Hunt! Amazing isn't it? They believe it is some kind of fiendish plot by Terry Brown to get back at Rush for not letting him produce them anymore. They still are not decisive on exactly what the crowd noises is saying, but they are pretty sure it must be important if Rush put it in one of their songs <G>....
I hope this helps... 8^)
~Michael Kizer -- Computer Sciences Corporation (Tucson, AZ) Email: mrkizer@ccgate.hac.com / mkizer@goodnet.com / fugazi@weirdness.com URL: http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer Dream Theater Song Book -^- Fates Warning Island in the Stream
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