YTSEJAM Digest 2570
Today's Topics:
1) Re: moonspell
by matt rosin <msr7146@unix.tamu.edu>
2) How many jammers?
by breitweg@fusebox.hanse.de (Jason T. Breitweg)
3) Happiness & Black Metal
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
4) Natural Selection
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
5) Fuckin' cool!
by eckie@asu.edu
6) Re: Loudest
by "James Garrett"<james.garrett@tekelec.com>
7) Re: MTV influence
by DrummerEsh@aol.com
8) re: a large number of very bad words.
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2569
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
10) New cds, not one which relates to DT
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
11) Re: FUCK!!!
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
12) BOSTON/NE/NY
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
13) RE: dream theater new album
by Mark Hatch-Miller <ace@onfire.net>
14) RE: Is Metal Dead?
by Mark Hatch-Miller <ace@onfire.net>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2569
by "Miguel Farah F." <miguel@server.webhost.cl>
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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 14:44:16 -0500
From: matt rosin <msr7146@unix.tamu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: moonspell
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970520144416.0069d428@mailbox.neosoft.com>
>For those who want really good dark metal, I recommand you an album of
>MOONSPELL called WOLFHEART. This sounds really good, I listen to it by
>hazard... Does Someone here know other release of these band
>(portugese???)
their most recent album is entitled "irreligious", and is superb, imho.
they should have an EP coming out soon, then another LP. they also put out
a couple demos prior to "wolfheart", one of which was an album entitled
"under the moonspell" (i think).
hope this helps.
-matt.
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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 19:54:42 GMT
From: breitweg@fusebox.hanse.de (Jason T. Breitweg)
Subject: How many jammers?
Message-ID: <ub67wdudfh.fsf@fusebox.hanse.de>
Ok the other day I was telling someone how loyal DT fans are and of
course I mentioned the jam. So I was wondering how many people are
actually subscribed to this list right now? I wanted to provide this
guy with some numbers since he is a nonbeliever. ANy help would be
great, thanx.
Jason
-- Jason Breitweg --> breitweg@amzeus.desy.de, jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg, http://lobelia.physics.wisc.edu/jbreitwe "The Gods Made Heavy Metal And It's Never Gonna Die!" - MANOWAR------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 15:33:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thezbianz <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Happiness & Black Metal Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970520151134.31702H-100000@dante22.u.washington.edu>
> From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu> > Subject: Re: I got an idea for a thread! > > Gee wiz, guys. I remember when the Jam was a happy place. I joined > around 1900 and everybody were just shiny happy people holding hands.
Please don't mention that song. By combining R.E.M. with the B-52's, such mental images only drive my brain's heel further into the shoe of insanity. Makes it hard to keep things instep, I need to drop ankle somewhere in reality.
As for the Jam being a happy place... You must have been here when, like, Charlie Dominici was still with the band, d00d.
> Where have all the good times gone? I wanna see all you groovy people > stand together and glorify DT, man. Nothing else, man. No more > neighbor-bshing, because won't you please, won't you please, please > won't you be my neighbor?
Certainly, sir. The opera from "The 5th Element" is called "Lucia Di Lammermoor" and was the first opera Luciano Pavarotti became famous for performing in. He was virtually unknown until his late twenties when Dame Joan Sutherland (soprano) persuaded the Florida opera companies to book him opposite her for the opera.
There, is that enough Dream Theater content for you? DT RULES!! I love you all!!
---- > From: "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaserla.fi> > Subject: The darker side of night... > > hi-hat: tstststststststststststststststststststststststststststststs > snare : ko ko ko ko ko ko ko ko ko ko ko ko ko ko ko > kickdrums: bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo > guitar: buzzbuzzbuzzbuzzbuzzbuzzbuzzbuzzbuzzbuzzbuzzbuzzbuzzbuzzbuzz > bass: dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum > vox: Shhhhriiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!Grrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
This appears to be a breakdown for the chemical formula Chaos Theorists refer to as the "Racer X" factor.
> Now, THAT is black metal. :) Anythind that differs from this formula > isn't considered pure black metal.
Always bet on black. Metal.
> Just don't get the albums mixed and purchase "Nattens Madrigal" by > mistake. NM is like machine gun and a formula one combined. You will not > like it.
So what you're saying is that it's more Spice Girls-ish than AC/DC-ish?
---- > From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu> > Subject: Ytse Jam - serves 1200
Someone should make this and bring it to the next DT show. Hand a big bowl of it to LaBrie during the ballads or sumpin'. "My name isn't LaBrie CHEESE. It's LaBrie. Kevin James FUCKING LaBrie. You're real fuckin' funny, you know that? Ha ha ha. Yeah. Well maybe you can cheese THIS--" (lunges into audience)
Otherwise that post was pretty fucking hilarious, Pat!
Mike Bahr, can you send one of your spies to Chris Merlo's hospital room to check on his condition?
B F'n V
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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 15:10:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thezbianz <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Natural Selection Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970520150050.31702G-100000@dante22.u.washington.edu>
> From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2562 > > > From: Lars Hellsten <larsh@ionsys.com> > > Subject: Fuck!
Methinks the days of the Ytsecon are over. Make way for the OCTAGON. Ytse-UFC!! (that's "Ultimate Fighting Championship" for those of you who are too high-class to order a pay-per-view gladiator bloodfest and love every minute of it) With referee Mike Bahr! "You ready? Are you ready? Then let's GET IT ON!! ...anyone wanna buy one of my cds first?"
> No... but it tooted out of your own moronic horn. I've never seen > anyone kiss his own ass like you do, Lars.
Who are you, the next host of the MTV video awards?
> If I had a brain, I'd know better than to agrue with someone who > resorts to swears and insults as a method of getting his points across.
What, you're too good to just while away the hours conferring with the flowers like the rest of us?
> You are delusional if you believe that. No one is on your case > for likeing LTL or TTT or any DT song. Get a grip.
Permanent Vacation.
> Isn't it a bit hypocritical to make fun of someone's grasp of the > English language, only to ignore grammar completely in your own post?
Actually there aren't no comma required between "language" and "only."
> > I mean, even if I was closed minded, expecting everyone in the world > > to be open minded is just as closed minded as anything else. > > That makes no sense at all. None.
Hmmm...
Sounds like he's saying that expecting everyone to be open-minded makes one close-minded. Basically, if you don't expect anything of anyone you're automatically a pretty open-minded individual. That is, assuming you use gooder grammar than the last guy.
> > If that makes any sense. > > None.
Ambassador of Logic, Chris Ptacek.
> "Fucking unoriginal bastard!" -Tollbooth Willy
"If elected mayor, ma'first order of business would be to kill every last one'a ya, and burrrn your town to cinders!" --Groundskeeper Willy
> > His argument didn't make any sense, because he was supporting my > > argument. > > Which is why I said, it would have been easy to knock his argument > down rationally, like an adult. Now you just look like a complete > moron, and he didn't have to say a word to get you there.
Sounds like you're supporting each other. A yin-yang jockstrap of sorts.
> > I was attacking the fucking flames and the fucking stupidity in his > > message > > There were neither flames nor signs of stupidty in his message, so > far as I can see.
Which is what, about three feet without your bifocals? Read the screen, dude, he didn't say "flames" he said "FUCKING flames." Now you just look like a complete moron, and he didn't have to say a word to get you there.
> No, you moron, you dove three hundred yards BELOW his level with > your cursing and moronic insults. He made a conscious effort to post > intelligently. You made a conscious effort not to.
"A CONSCIOUS effort to hide the evidence, Mulder! You KNEW about the abduction but you thought it'd be better to just continue your little crusade! ALONE!"
"Is that what you think, Scully? After everything you've been through?"
"Dammit Mulder, can't you say something to me other than 'is that what you think' or 'I don't know, Scully' or something?! English, Mulder!! DOO YOUU SPEAK IT?!"
"I don't know, Scully... I don't know..."
Bafu Vaiii
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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 16:08:22 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Fuckin' cool! Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970520160641.24511A-100000@general3.asu.edu>
Fuck man, that's a lot of fuckin' goin' on!
I fuckin' think DT should use the word 'fuck' more often.
With the 'f' spelling, not the 'ph' spelling. That spelling's for fucking fuckfucks.
~Fuckie
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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 16:21:41 -0700 From: "James Garrett"<james.garrett@tekelec.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Loudest Message-ID: <8825649D.00803A20.00@domino1.ca.tekelec.com>
I thought that Disaster Area, the Plutonian Rock Band, held the record for the loudest concert. ;-)
James G.
The loudest concert I've been to was a Metallica show. I read somewhere (probably the Guinness Book, and I don't mean a book about beers) that the Castle Donnington Monsters of Rock show (headlined by Iron Maiden, if I remember right) hit 138 db during Maiden's set. If your ears weren't bleeding after that one, you must have been out of the country. And I'll bet even that wasn't a guarantee. :)
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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 19:23:05 -0400 (EDT) From: DrummerEsh@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: MTV influence Message-ID: <970520192304_-995877068@emout02.mail.aol.com>
Lars Hellsten said>so why SHOULD MTV play DT? Because they're more talented?
HELL YA
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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 19:31:20 -0400 From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: a large number of very bad words. Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970520192402.0068ceb4@ici.net>
>For Jeff Keifling and anyone else keeping track, the word "fuck" or a >variant thereof is used 69 fucking times in this fucking post, including >this fucking sentance. Pretty fucking impressive, huh?
I'd just like to say, I laughed pretty fucking hard at this fucking post. I just hope my daughter never finds any fucking back-issues of the 'jam when she's old enough to fucking read. :)
I hope no AOL jammers read that. It's a HUGS fucking TOS violation...
..on a stick.
>-------------------------==[ Tool Fucking Roolz ]==------------------------
Actually, I think a more apropos quote would have been
"Come down Get off your fucking cross We need the fucking space To nail the next fool martyr"
-Tool "Eulogy"
________Pat Sullivan__________________________________ E-mail: psull@ici.net WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html IRC: DDictator NP: Deliverance - "If You Will"
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Date: Tue, 20 May 97 19:40 EDT From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2569 Message-ID: <m0wTyWO-000AgHC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
: saut@dns.diel.it (saut)
Hello! Please tell me about the Dream Theater new album.
The new album (an EP actually) is out- its called Learning To Die and is total black metal. The cover features a little girl (much like the IAW cover) having her guts tore out by a pack of wolves. The songs:
Learning To Die Give Me More Pain Caught In A Guillotine Blackened Skies and for a special bonus: James LaBrie Being Burnt To Death (live)
Other stuff:
The loudest concert I've been to was Danzig in February of this year and it fucking rocked. I thought I was going to be deaf afterwards. My favorite singers are Bruce Dickinson (**how could I not agree), Geoff Tate, Kory Clarke, Jon Oliva, Zak Stevens, and Erik A. Knutson.
Son of a bitch, the other day I was going to pick up Fates Warning APSOG at Media Play here and the bastards didn't have it. Fuck, I was pissed. Instead, I came home with 2 alternative CD's...Tonic's Lemon Parade (one hit wonder w/ If You Could Only See) and Local H's As Good As Dead (currently, the best damn alternative CD I have ever heard).
Thatsall
D.
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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 19:36:08 -0700 From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New cds, not one which relates to DT Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970521023608.0067246c@pop.pipeline.com>
I just grabbed the box fulla cds offa my porch and greedily opened it. Inside I found my latest shipment of stuff from the kings of mail order imports, Knights of the Round <http://www.knightsoftheround.com>. What was even cooler was the fact that I ordered a cd by Hades, which I thought was the NJ band Hades(see also: Non-Fiction, Watchtower, etc.) but it wasn't, so the guy didn't put it in or charge me. That's cool. Also, one of the cds I ordered was on back order, so he offered to send it to me later FREE!! I highly recommend this establishment! So, what cds did I buy? Tribute to Judas Priest Volume II, which so far (I am on track 3) rocks serious ass. If you like German Power Metal et al, this is the volume to buy. It has Stratovarius (not German, but I was referring to the genre), Iced Earth, Blind Guardian, Nevermore, Angra, Leviathan, Forbidden, Gamma Ray, and others. Woo hoo! I also got Symphony X - Divine Wings of Tragedy, Coroner - No More Color, Conception - Flow, and Candlemass - Nightfall. I love it when new cds arrive! Whoa! What is fucking (there's that word) Nevermore doing to "Love Bites?????" Ah - heaven.
GO WINGS!
Kevin
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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 16:41:16 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: FUCK!!! Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970520164113.007c3260@postoffice.syspac.com>
At 02:24 PM 5/20/97 -0700, you wrote: > >ONE MORE FUCK AND I'M CLOSING DOWN THE ENTIRE JAM!! > > >:)
Fuck you! :)
>Fuck man, that's a lot of fuckin' goin' on!
Fuckin' shit!!
>I fuckin' think DT should use the word 'fuck' more often.
Fuck that!!
>With the 'f' spelling, not the 'ph' spelling. That spelling's for >fucking fuckfucks.
Yeah, so go fucking fuckfuck yourself!! ;)~
>~Fuckie
Fuckie Fuckfuck ;)
j/k Chris :) hahahqah!
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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 17:31:03 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: BOSTON/NE/NY Message-ID: <199705210031.RAA10318@gms.gmsnet.com>
Hey Folks...
If any of you are in the CT, NE, NY Area... I'll be in Boston May 27th - June 3rd if you wanna go hang out, mosh, cause general chaos... send me e-mail at: drkhoe@gmsnet.com
-The Doc
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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 17:55:10 -0700 From: Mark Hatch-Miller <ace@onfire.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: dream theater new album Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970520175502.006a39b0@onfire.net>
>Please tell me about the Dream Theater new album.
YOu probably know just as much (little?) as the rest of us.. hopefully the rumor (or do we know it for a fact?) that it is being recorded as we speak, produced by Kevin Shirley (latest Journey, latest Aerosmith) and will be released by the begining of 1998 is true.
By the way, the Latest issue of Modern Drummer magazine (June 1997, w/ Chad Gracey from Live on the cover) has a pretty cool interview with Kevin Shirley, who is producing the new album. Cool!
> |----------------------------------------| > | !!! Progressive will not dead !!! | > |----------------------------------------|
hehehe dont we all love foreigners?? : ) (no offense meant to anyone, of course)
Mark -------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Hatch-Miller, ace@onfire.net
"He's noble enough to know whats right but weak enough not to choose it He's wise enough to win the world but fool enough to lose it"-
Rush, "New World Man"
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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 18:17:08 -0700 From: Mark Hatch-Miller <ace@onfire.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: Is Metal Dead? Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970520181704.006a5458@onfire.net>
>Here is an (NDTC) article about the current state of heavy metal, >written by a friend of mine recently, that you may find interesting. >WARNING: IT'S LONG (150 lines!), so don't incinerate me!
<SNIP>
What a great article, but I think some of the info is incorrect. I could've sworn that Promised Land is Platinum in the US already, and I'm SURE that Slang and the Def Leppard greatest hits album released a little earlier are gold (500,000) and platinum (1,000,000), respectively, at the VERY LEAST.
There are two things that the article neglects: 1) bands like Ozzy, Megadeth, Van Halen, and AC/DC who still release multi-platinum albums and 2) Who fills up the arenas and larger outdoor venues?? It isnt Bush, The Offspring, Pearl Jam, and especially not Silverchair, who still play half full shows at smaller, older arenas and civic centers, but it is the same metal and arena hard rock bands that always have: Metallica, Ozzy, who has been to Phoenix 4 times in a little over a year and a half, and every single show has sold out (the first was at a 10,000 capacity venue, and the last three at the same 19,000 capicity venue), AC/DC's last show here was sold out, Pantera and White Zombie consistantly sell out 10,000 to 15,000 capacity venues, and bands like Alice Cooper, the Scorpions, and Rush still draw huge crowds (as well as pop/rock bands like Aerosmith, Phil Collins, KISS, and U2).
MTV can sell albums, but they cant sell concert tickets cause the majority of people who watch eMpTyV are pre-teens who cant afford tickets and whose parents wouldnt let them go anyways.
Mark
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Deep RUSH Thoughts:
It's a good thing Rush decided to use an "R" as the first letter in the name of their band. Otherwise they might have been called "Bush" or "Lush" and those bands suck.
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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 21:20:36 -0400 (CST) From: "Miguel Farah F." <miguel@server.webhost.cl> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2569 Message-ID: <199705210120.VAA16048@server.webhost.cl>
>Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 14:09:23 -0700 >From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: FUCK!!! >Message-ID: <199705202109.OAA08745@gms.gmsnet.com> > > >ONE MORE FUCK AND I'M CLOSING DOWN THE ENTIRE JAM!!
FUCK! That means we'll have to watch our fucking mouth!
p.s.: X-D
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