Re: Variety on the Jam...

From: Chris Ptacek (someone@enteract.com)
Date: Thu May 22 1997 - 12:39:55 EDT

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    > I just saw your note saying you were leaving Ytsejam. I
    > haven't been following Ytsejam closely recently, but I hope you don't
    > end up leaving. I agree (and there are plenty of others who do too)
    > that the Ytsejam should be open to all discussions. Things cycle on
    > the list from people wanting to restrict ideas to complete chaos, but
    > in the end people keep posting what they want. For the most part,
    > it's an open-minded list so don't leave because of a few bad apples.

            I'm already gone, actually. I got really tired of playing
    scapegoat. I just don't like being considered an egotist just because I
    voice my opinions and am not afraid to disagree with someone when my
    opinion or experience differs from theirs.
            I don't like being singled out as the cause of all of the
    ytseproblems. If I take credit for them all, I'm an egotist. If I refuse
    responsibility for all of the problems, I'm a self righteous egotist. I
    can't win in that deal.
            That Nicole person really rubbed me the wrong way. She wants to
    knock me for disagreeing with someone... as if that's unacceptable
    discussion technique. And then there's the whole issue of her saying
    "Blah blah blah, so I'm not a hypocrite. Don't ask a question on the jam
    that's directed to a single person." only to ask me a direct question that
    had no bearing on the jam a few paragraphs later.
            You can't blanket yourself from your own words like that. If you
    want to say that something shouldn't be done, then you shouldn't be doing
    it yourself, you know? Or if you do, I would think it's your
    responsibility to say that you're wrong for doing it, or that you were
    wrong in the original statement.
            It's stressing me out that I can't just say what I have to say on
    the jam, peacefully, without being called a jag off. If I really am the
    problem that's screwing up the Ytsejam, then leaving will fix it. When my
    departure changes nothing, I will have proven the pointing fingers wrong.
            But you know, I could probably bitch about this stuff forever, and
    you don't need to hear it. I will probably be back in a few months, and
    I'll be on #ytsejam all the time. Keep in touch!

    - Chris



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