YTSEJAM Digest 2588
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Any tribute at this point
by eckie@asu.edu
2) Re: Widest vocal range
by WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca>
3) Vocal Range
by "Adam Cook" <acook@tiac.net>
4) Ugly Kid Joke
by jsj@ix.netcom.com (J. E. James)
5) DT-fans/Tesla/Waltari/Harem Scarem...
by satu.reunanen@sci.fi (Satu Reunanen)
6) so many albums, so little money...
by caber1@concentric.net
7) Re: All Hail Mike Bahr!!!
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
8) Rumors
by Alan Estrada Adler <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
9) Re: Rumors
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
10) Rush Concert 5.25.97ad TONIGHT IN HOUSTON
by cmustard@vonl.com (Mark Lampert)
11) Re: Vocal Range
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
12) More stuff wanted
by caber1@concentric.net
13) Re: high singers
by "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
14) moore & SG
by strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
15) Re: Enchant
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
16) Good Clean Joke
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
17) Re: Enchant
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
18) 2112 & DT - Top 40
by "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
19) DT news
by "Elv" <cyclone@securenet.net>
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 02:26:11 -0700 (MST)
From: eckie@asu.edu
To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Any tribute at this point
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970525021933.384A-100000@general3.asu.edu>
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 04:44:38 -0600
From: WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Widest vocal range
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970525044438.0068c004@autobahn.mb.ca>
I know the guy said to e-mail privately, but if anyone else want's to know...
>does anyone know..which is the highest rock singer octave-wise? whos the
>guy that can hit the highest octave in rock..?
Hands down, Jim Gillette wins. Ex-Nitro (Fastest guitars, highest vocals)
vocalist,
now married to Lita Ford, has just over 6 octaves. I believe the highest
note he has hit
is an F above high C <yeah, the note where glass shatters.> I have his
instructional tape, and while it's kinda goofy, I must say, it works. I
improved my vocals in only 3 months after
starting it. Jim can shatter heavy lead crystal goblets with his voice.
(But, I'm sure he's not
the only one)
(Singers: Hint - wanna try this? Take a crystal wine glass and run your
finger around the rim.
Hear a note? (BTW, not all glasses do this) This is the exact note you must
hit in order to break the glass.) It's a blast the first time you do it and
it's a most excellent party trick! :-)
Laterness
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Madness reigns in the Hall of the Mountain King
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 09:18:29 -0400
From: "Adam Cook" <acook@tiac.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Vocal Range
Message-ID: <199705251319.JAA21293@zork.tiac.net>
>A little correction... I checked back, and Tate hit a high G (which the
guy
>from Boston also hits on "More than a Feeling"). The guy from CG hits a
>high A (!) on Red Sharks. It sounds ridiculous, but he does it...
A high G is what Labrie is singing (screaming?) on The Killing Hand on LaTM
right after the slow part and they're building into the fast verse. I'm too
lazy to get out the CD and check the actual time, but you guys know what
I'm talking about. Also Ray Alder sings pretty damn high on No Exit and
Perfect Symmetry. I've never checked but I'm sure he gets as high as a G at
many points because he sings high constantly on these records. Personally I
think the effect of blasting out a high note is lessened when you're doing
it all the time. You got to use dynamics in your singing. Also Andre Matos
of Angra does this, but he has the added bonus of sounding like a woman :)
Adam
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 10:32:57 -0500 (CDT)
From: jsj@ix.netcom.com (J. E. James)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ugly Kid Joke
Message-ID: <199705251532.KAA18096@dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com>
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> Ugly Kid Joe: pulled this one out of the closet today too...
>man, these guys were pretty cool back in the day. Still pretty good stuff
>to pull out every now and then. Yet again another unique vocalist, and I
>think he could still be viable today. Whatever happened to these guys
>anyhow? Did the tragic demise of the 80's bands catch them too?
They have had 2 albums out since Amerca's Least Wanted.
Menace to Sobriety and Motel California
I haven't heard either of these, but I have heard they are not as good as ALW.
I'm gonna have to listen to ALW now with all this talk about Kid Joe.
Justin
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 20:24:46 +0300 (EET DST)
From: satu.reunanen@sci.fi (Satu Reunanen)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT-fans/Tesla/Waltari/Harem Scarem...
Message-ID: <199705251724.UAA01104@ds9.sci.fi>
Wow ! Can't believe I'm writing here again..seems like a really
long time since I last scribbled here. Anyways..
Here's the thingies;
Categorising (?) DT-fans:
All I can say is if there were only two categories for DT-fans,
I wouldn't be neither of them. I like really heavy music sometimes
or soft !! Just depends on my mood at the moment !
I mean, I like pop/dm/prog/kinda jazzy-bluesy/wm/doom/aor..
I can't even name all the styles ! It's just what ever happens to
get my interest.
Tesla:
I've been listening to their music now for over 11 years and still
listen. Song & emotion is a great song. So is Modern day cowboy
for a party song. Tesla stays in my memories. Happy memories.
Waltari-show:
Damn, I should've listened to Mape..went to their gig a while
ago and it was all techno..so who ever wanted to know about them live,
there ya go ! The new album is full of techno. I was really disappointed.
Loudest concert:
In my case it must be Manowar. And AC/DC was loud too. I still have
my hearing though, which is AMAZING !!
Females in music:
Why couldn't you listen to a band w/ a female in it ?
I couldn't care less if there was a gorilla, if it was good !
I like lotsa bands with females in them, for instance:Lita Ford,
Doro,Saraya,Cranberries, The Gathering,Heart,Skew Siskin,Romeo's
Daughter,Lush,No Doubt,Fiona,Maggie Reilly,Chrissy Steele,Femme
Fatale,Phantom Blue,L7,Annica (Finn). And Jennifer Batten..
(NOO ! She never practised)..I'm just saying I don't look at the musicians
face or sex, I just listen to the music. That's what counts !
Harem Scarem:
I have their Mood swings and I like it too. Anyone interested
in a trade, just drop me a line !
Later pancakes ! Satu
Stratovarius RULES !!
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1986 13:24:10 -0700
From: caber1@concentric.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: so many albums, so little money...
Message-ID: <1ED774E9.2F35@concentric.net>
Help!! Last night I was bored so I wrote down all the bands I'm
interested in listening to. Some are old bands and some are just baby
bands. I know that almost all these bands have been reviewed here on the
jam but I would rather to get newer reviews. I have about 30 bands with
multiple albums(plus japs w/extra tracks) to choose from and that's
messed up. What I want is not a real review but which albums should a
first time listener buy and if I should buy the american or import
version, also are the other albums even close to whichever one is the
recommended one.
Here comes the huge *ss list!
Amorphis
Angra
Arcturus
At the Gates
Blind Guardian
Crandle of Filth
Crimson Glory
Dissection
Dimmu Borgir
Edge of Sanity
Elegy
ELP
Gamma Ray
Helloween
Helstar
In Flames
Leviathian
Marillion
Moonspell
My Dying Bride
Quiet Room
Spock's Beard
Samuel
Sepultura
Skyclad
Startovarious
Symphony X
Tiamat
Watchtower
Thanks in advance...
the soon to-be-poor John McCabe
caber1@concnetric.net
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 15:17:09 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: All Hail Mike Bahr!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95q.970525151550.10155B-100000@ant116.cce.usp.br>
On Sat, 24 May 1997 MTeiper@aol.com wrote:
> Oh glorious day... "Precious Things" has finally arrived!!! Another stellar
> effort from Mr. Bahr (like he's ever produced anything less...) The last
> track, "Learning To Live", is listed as being taken from the original I&W
> demo sessions. I have the exact same recording on a couple of other boots
> that have it listed on each as being from James's vocal audition, one of
> three songs he did (the other 2 trax being "Take the Time" and acoustic "To
> Live Forever"). Can anyone confirm or deny this for sure???
I don't know which Learning to Live you are refering to, but I
have a CD called "Guitar Talkin'" that has these three songs listed as
James Labrie Audition Demo too.
[]s, Roger...
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 13:17:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Alan Estrada Adler <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Rumors Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.970525131542.21792B-100000@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
I heard that Dream Theater recorded an album under the name of Nightmare Cinema and that they switched the instruments, is this true? I also heard that there's an special album there that wont be out on the stores, wich album is it? please email me privately.... thanks....
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 12:22:35 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Rumors Message-ID: <199705251922.MAA13944@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, Alan Estrada Adler said: >I heard that Dream Theater recorded an album under the name of Nightmare >Cinema and that they switched the instruments, is this true?
ROFLMAO!!! No, they didn't actually record it as a studio album... it's a live thing they do...
>I also heard that there's an special album there that wont be out on the >stores, wich album is it?
Well, wot is it... the Christmas Special CD for fan club people I believe.
I also heard a rumor that D-MAN is back!!! Chris FUCKIN Merlo is back!! heheh.... good to have you back D-man...
-The Doc
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 14:36:33 -0500 From: cmustard@vonl.com (Mark Lampert) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Rush Concert 5.25.97ad TONIGHT IN HOUSTON Message-ID: <19970525193244954.AAA222@cmustard.vonl.com>
Ahoy,
Let the countdown begin Houston jammers! Rush goes on in 5 hours from now... 8th row center.... blow my ears out and my head off. Maybe I'll walk away with a pick, wish me luck!
** For any of you attending the Woodlands to see Rush this evening here in Houston, look for me... Shaved head, black crystal necklace, white Maxtor t-shirt with a picture of a hard drive on the back, khaki pants, black shoes, (if you spot all this, you're probably right in front of me) standing with a tall skinny guy with brown hair (not Geddy, sorry) in a bowl-style haircut. Be sure to shout "Ahoy!" when you spot me. **
· • Colonel Mustard • ·
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 13:08:54 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Vocal Range Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970525130852.007c6270@postoffice.syspac.com>
At 07:51 AM 8/42/76 -0700, so let it be written: >A high G is what Labrie is singing (screaming?)
Labrie is too perfect to "scream". It's called controlled chaos ;)~
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1986 15:34:21 -0700 From: caber1@concentric.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: More stuff wanted Message-ID: <1ED7936D.5E57@concentric.net>
Sorry I forget some other bands I want to hear about. :)
Enchant Mastermind Magellan(sp?)
John McCabe caber1@concentric.net
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 15:36:12 +0000 From: "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: high singers Message-ID: <199705252034.PAA23554@Walden.MO.NET>
No, not singer sthat are high, but singers with high voices :). Anyway, I know some of you may be familiar with Ken Tamplin. I remember something about him having a damn high voice, but can't remember how many octaves it covers or anything like that.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 17:06:53 -0500 From: strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: moore & SG Message-ID: <v01530501afae66e7f593@[207.79.6.163]>
>>Supposedly this is all that Kevin Moore has played on.. >>ROCK FATHER CREACH : PAPA JOHN : Guitar (Acoustic) /Vocals/Guitar
This must be where that "musician comes to your door / pay him for the pizza" joke comes from.
Shadow Gallery's first CD came yesterday. I've always liked this one. Years ago I had a dubbed copy and then lost it. Glad to have it on CD. Kevin V.- thanks for the carved in stone. great CD but I think your nuts if you don't like this other one as well. : )
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 19:16:43 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Enchant Message-ID: <199705260117.SAA26854@odin.ax.com>
> Just FYI: You US guys are an album late. The third Enchant album is > out here in Europe. I just forgot the name of the thing ;-) > They also played one of the new songs on the tour with DT. (wow, DTC) > > Oh, and don't get CDs for Dr. Mosh. I bought a "Wounded"-CD for him > *months* ago and he waited till "Wounded" was released in the US > instead.
Heya! I know you posted this a long time ago, but I've been jamming to the new Enchant and was wondering how it is. Pretty kewl? or didja get a chance to listen to it yet? (i should ask first whether you like them or not. :) Anyway, I would send you the cash for a copy of my own. I can't get enuff now.
Lemme know how it goes!
KorgX3 a.k.a. Pastor of Muppets ibanez@cyberghighway.net "Yay, yay, ormschperdinki du! Yay bork schperduggin dieder, Bork, Bork Bork!" ---Some Swede Muppet
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 19:29:00 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Good Clean Joke Message-ID: <199705260129.SAA27587@odin.ax.com>
Here's some humor for our deteriorating consciences...
Seems there was a treasure ship on its way back to port. About halfway there, it was approached by a pirate ship, skull and crossbones waving in the breeze!
"Captain, captain, what do we do?" asked the first mate.
"First mate," said the captain, "go to my cabin, open my sea chest, and bring me my red shirt." The first mate did so.
Wearing his bright red shirt, the captain exhorted his crew to fight. So inspiring was he, in fact, that the pirate ship was repelled without casualties.
A few days later, the ship was approached again, this time by two pirate sloops!
"Captain, captain, what should we do?"
"First mate, bring me my red shirt!"
The crew, emboldened by their fearless captain, fought heroically, and managed to defeat both boarding parties, though they took many casualties. That night, the survivors had a great celebration. The first mate asked the secret of the captain's bright red shirt.
"It's simple, first mate," the captain relied, "if I am wounded, the blood does not show, and the crew continues to fight without fear."
A week passed, and they were nearing their home port, when suddenly the lookout cried that ten ships of the enemy's armada were approaching!
"Captain, captain, we're in terrible trouble, what should we do?" The first mate looked expectantly at the miracle worker.
Pale with fear, the captain commanded, "First mate... bring me my brown pants!"
Take care!
KorgX3 a.k.a. Pastor of Muppets ibanez@cyberghighway.net "Yay, yay, ormschperdinki du! Yay bork schperduggin dieder, Bork, Bork Bork!" ---Some Swede Muppet
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 19:30:29 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Enchant Message-ID: <199705260130.SAA27668@odin.ax.com>
> Heya! I know you posted this a long time ago, but I've been jamming > to the new Enchant and was wondering how it is. Pretty kewl? or > didja get a chance to listen to it yet? (i should ask first whether > you like them or not. :) Anyway, I would send you the cash for a > copy of my own. I can't get enuff now.
Jeez, you know the tale, everyone else does it. This was meant for Steffen. Sorry, guys! Hope you enjoy the joke!
Later!
KorgX3 a.k.a. Pastor of Muppets ibanez@cyberghighway.net "Yay, yay, ormschperdinki du! Yay bork schperduggin dieder, Bork, Bork Bork!" ---Some Swede Muppet
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 22:50:16 -0400 From: "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net> To: YtseGods <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: 2112 & DT - Top 40 Message-ID: <3388FA68.3E7A@enter.net>
The CD version on 2112 has the total time as 20:34.
Someone posted posted earlier about DT wanting to become top 40, and the questioned why DT would want this (or something like that).
I just want to say why wouldn't DT want to become top 40. Not that they money hungry American hyprocrites, but they want to expand peoples vision of music and since I think in the US Billboard and MTV are VERY closed-minded in the music they select.
Here are a few things they are missing:
Jazz Classical New Age Country Progressive I'm sure there are many others, but when you look what's out there you have Grung, Rap, Dance/Techno and Pop Rock.
One word about that line up : BORING!!!!!
I think it shows the simple mindedness of America and the laziness. Just my honest opinion. Americans would rather watch the boob tube and be fed garbage than challenge themselves.
Take the time...
Bruce D. Duesterhoeft
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 23:02:36 -0400 From: "Elv" <cyclone@securenet.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT news Message-ID: <199705260302.UAA02839@odin.ax.com>
I'm not sure if this was posted on the Ytsejam before. I found this on a MTV news page:
* Dream Theater Snags Shirley, Sherinian Says No Yes
* May 15 [9:45 EST] -- Top rock producer Kevin Shirley has been snagged by * New York's prog-rockers Dream Theater. Shirley is on a roll with his last two * projects, Aerosmith's "Nine Lives" and Silverchair's "Freak Show." Dream * Theater's long songs and elaborate productions will be a change from the radio * hits generated by those artists.
* Band manager Rob Shore reports Shirley and the band will be going into a * small New York studio to start pre-production before heading to the old Power * Station, now called Avatar, June 2. The project is optimistically set for a release * on the East-West label early in the fall.
* Meanwhile, Dream Theater nearly had their keyboard player snagged by Yes.
* Derek Sherinian was being wooed by that band to replace the departed Rick * Wakeman. It seems that Yes had been scheduled to tour this summer but * Wakeman wouldn't go and subsequently left the band to concentrate on his * Christian music endeavors. Sherinian, flattered, none-the-less said no to the * Yes offer.
Elvis Batur cyclone@securenet.net elv@geocities.com
Music In Progress http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/4257 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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