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YTSEJAM Digest 2597

Today's Topics:

  1) Re: To Live Forever
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
  2) LoneWolf's Homepage
by LoneWolf <e8825527@student.tuwien.ac.at>
  3) DAMN! forgot my URL!
by LoneWolf <e8825527@student.tuwien.ac.at>
  4) Re:The Seventh Day
by "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
  5) Re: To Live Forever
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
  6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2596
by WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca>
  7) RE: I hate you people.
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
  8) YTSEJAM digest 2594
by <09422587@mail3.dlsu.edu.ph>
  9) size of guitarists
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
10) JWD
by gra@provida.no
11) The Absence of Light
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
12) PT/TDOW
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
13) RE: WDADU CD
by Todd Turbedsky <Tturbedsky@Telespecnt1.Telespec.com>
14) singers...mariah....babbling
by ladyheather@juno.com
15) Lost in the Sky ???
by bwrights@dnaent.com (Bill Wrightson)
16) Re: Symphony X
by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
17) Deliverance
by A <breuric@tpgi.com.au>
18) Re: To Live Forever
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
19) Re: The Absence of Light
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)

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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 02:29:22 EDT
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: To Live Forever
Message-ID: <19970529.233243.8646.7.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>

>Hi, Yatseyammer, please somebody help find a CD with To Live Forever
>I just have a copy on cassette and it's my favourite DT song!!!
>EUGE

The studio version is on one of the import singles from the Awake cd.

Scott
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Mary had a little lamb she kept in her backyard
and when she took her panties off his wooly DICK got hard. - Dice
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 08:40:43 +0000
From: LoneWolf <e8825527@student.tuwien.ac.at>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LoneWolf's Homepage
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970530084043.00688304@stud1.tuwien.ac.at>

Greetings from the wolf's den

The lonely and insane guy (i.e. me) has updated
his pages.

Things you can find there:
- A guestbook (NEW!)
- Some new poetry
- Progressive album recommendations
- Original buttons (including DT buttons)
- Some cool music links

L8terz,
Wolf.

P.S.: Chivalry forever !

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       / "o. |o } | ,-. ,-. ,-. `| /| / ,-. | |_
       | \ ; | | | | | |-' | / | / | | | |
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" Through nature's inflexible grace I'm learning to live "
- Dream Theater

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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 09:04:41 +0000
From: LoneWolf <e8825527@student.tuwien.ac.at>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DAMN! forgot my URL!
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970530090441.0068fb68@stud1.tuwien.ac.at>

I'm a little confused these days (no wonder), so
I forgot to type my URL *blush*

http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8825527/

Wolf.

" Through nature's inflexible grace I'm learning to live "
- Dream Theater

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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 02:25:41 +0000
From: "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re:The Seventh Day
Message-ID: <199705300725.CAA28455@Walden.MO.NET>

Hmm, K-SHE 95 in St. Louis has the exact same program on Sunday
nights. They do a variety of albums, mostly in the classic rock
vein, but occasionally do a newer band (heard Dark Side of the Moon
before, and, for anyone that may kn ow of them, Third Day's debut
album). I've only actually listened to it a few times, though.

Dale R. Newberry

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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 04:49:58 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: To Live Forever
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95q.970530044754.6543A-100000@ant116.cce.usp.br>

On Thu, 29 May 1997, Scott Cook wrote:

> >Hi, Yatseyammer, please somebody help find a CD with To Live Forever
> >I just have a copy on cassette and it's my favourite DT song!!!
> >EUGE
>
> The studio version is on one of the import singles from the Awake cd.

I think that it is on the "Lie" single, but where can I find it? I
live in Brazil and so, my only chance to get it would be via an on-line
mailorder company. Do you know any (I have searched "CD Now" and "CD
Universe" with no success).

Oh, how I wish I could get that single!

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  Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito
  Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!"
   Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html
 "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters"
           James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 02:45:50 -0600
From: WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2596
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970530024550.0068e54c@autobahn.mb.ca>
>please DO NOT SEND anymore of this digest to this e-mail address.  
>Thank you.
>
	Some people just never learn how to <Subjest: asdf> get off <unsubscribe>
the list <ytsejam>
 with their name <insert><yours> and wish to be removed from said list in
the <here> body, do they now? 
L8rness
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Madness reigns in the Hall of the Mountain King
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 01:25:58 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: I hate you people.
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-970530082558Z-11191@ms.Kallback.com>
>Every time I read a jam, I find out about at least one new CD I want to buy.
>At this rate, I'll have no money to eat.
Welcome to the club, pal. 
Since I joined about six months ago I've spent about $200-$300 a MONTH
on progmetal cd's!
You just have to make a choice:
Prime rib and Spice Girls on the radio or
Ramen noodles and Symphony X and Angra on the CD player.
Time to make the noodles,
Trevor     
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 30 May 97 16:11:31 GMT+8
From: <09422587@mail3.dlsu.edu.ph>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 2594
Message-ID: <1868154B0E@mail3.dlsu.edu.ph>
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 01:37:14 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: size of guitarists
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-970530083714Z-11192@ms.Kallback.com>
>I'm just wondering because usually the guitar hero's 
>are lanky and skinny looking. It's just that I have a friend who is about 
>his size and he doesn't think he will ever be that good because of his size.
Trust me, size and guitar playing ability are not related.
Have you seen Steven Rothery from Marillion lately? 
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 10:53:16 +0100
From: gra@provida.no
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: JWD
Message-ID: <412564A7.00357DAF.00@oslo1.provida.no>
>> There's this norweigan guy, Jan Werner Danielsen who indeed has a six
>> octave vocal range ....
>Cool.  What kind of voice?  What kind of music does he do?  I'd like to
>hear him.
JWD won this song contest on national bc, at this time he was a master of
the soft music style (like stuff on musicals ...), but he has changed his
style a bit, so it's more like Mariah Carey. (Imagine a guy to changes his
music style to a heavier one and ends up sounding like MC !!!!)
I'm not very much into his music, but he's voice really kicks ass ....
.-profile
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 05:30:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thezbianz <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The Absence of Light
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970530053028.64602J-100000@dante14.u.washington.edu>
And the absence of DT content. Skip now or forever hold my piece. 
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> From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
> Subject: Oooh, my head...
>
> > whenever you see something hued black. 
>
> Actually, black is the combination of every other color, so something
> couldn't be hued black. :) Post more often Bafu, I need your insight
> into the world if Mads is departing. 
First, you don't need my input. 
Second, BLACK. 
What you have said is true of painting, not nature. Black rocks do not
look like they do because every other pigmentation found in the minerals
of the Earth's crust combined themselves together and made a really really
dark thing. There are many things that appear in nature as the color
black, though I hesitate to call black a color because technically
speaking LIGHT is required to use words like "color." (much like MANA is
required to use words like "cast.") And as we've all heard from the
philosophers of the world, "black is the absence of light!" And thus it
cannot be a "color." What's really weird is that I can tell when something
is black in a brightly-lit room (and even in a dimly-lit room). BUT, I
can't tell the color of ANYTHING in total darkness. 
What I have just proven is that black is not the absence of light, but in
fact the absence of DARKNESS. 
Mixing all paint-colors together might give you black, but more often just
a really dark shade of brown. People who say black is a combination of all
colors have never tried actually making it. Black dyes aren't produced by
combining all other dyes, black dyes are synthesized. Most of the time
when black appears on human beings it's a sign of either dead cells (hair,
eyelashes, CANCER) or shadowy cavernous places (the pupil).
Take my shoes for instance, they weren't thrown in a vat of blue, then
yellow, then red, then on through the secondaries, etc. The black
ink-cartridge in my printer is defined as "true black," which is closer to
actual black than the shade of black found by using the color cartridge,
which combines yellow, red, and blue together to make a dark-dark shade
that's close-close to black.
I have been told that when color is adhered to an object or when a dye is
used, the object is "hued" and not "colored." Thus a black stereo or a
black sofa is "hued" black and not "colored" black. It's very hard to
argue this subject 'cause there's too many people who argue that black
somehow "doesn't exist." 
"Hey, like my new black shoes?" 
"Black's not a color! It's the absence of light! It's invisible! You can't
see it, you only THINK you're seeing it! Just like those spots on the
screen at the movie theater!" 
Speaking of spots on screens, am I the only person who can see the yellow
and black reel-change spot in the upper righthand corner of the movie
screen? There's an eight-seconds-until-we-change-the-reel spot and
one-second spot. Is there anyone who sees what's going on? Please? 
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> From: Lars Hellsten <larsh@ionsys.com>
> Subject: Spam
>
> Which is fine, except I haven't seen this guy post a single thing on
> this list that's DT related.  In fact, I haven't even seen him mention
> DT in one of his messages.
Un-fortunately I'm guilty of the same charge. If a man is closer to guilty
for what goes on in his mind, then give me the electric chair for all my
future crimes.
> BTW, I'm not the first person to bring this up. 
That's about as effective as telling the undertaker, "Wait, I'm not dead
yet!" :) 
----
> Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 10:52:07 -0400
> From: Lars Hellsten <larsh@ionsys.com>
>
> But it is curious that all the bands/groups people here hate most
> (Alanis, No Doubt, Spice Girls, etc.) all have female singers... <shrug>
> It was just an observation. 
We're all cats here, Lars. Curiosity of this sort can get you killed. Take
it from me, I KNOW. :) :) :) 
Special Agent Bafu
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 08:57:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: PT/TDOW
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970530085451.5548A-100000@reagan.mcl.bdm.com>
Notorious wrote:
>Hey everyone! I got a shiny happy package in the mail from the honorable
>Mike Bahr yesterday. My Precious Things disc was #143, my Darkest of
>Winters was #141, and my Wrath of God (after MUCH ado) was unnumbered.
>So to everyone that wasn't right there in the top few discs ... our
>numbers are coming up!
huh? I am 89 for PT and 72 for TDOW and I haven't gotten my cds. What 
order does Mike send cds out in? Does he just go in random order? If this 
is the case there is really no point to paying up early except to make 
sure you get a copy. So Mike can you explain your sending out methods?????
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
|            Pat Daugherty    pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com            |
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|     "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater      |
|            "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files              |
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 08:59:16 -0400
From: Todd Turbedsky <Tturbedsky@Telespecnt1.Telespec.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE:  WDADU CD
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Telespectrum%l=TELESPECNT6-970530125916Z-31619@telespecnt1.telespec.com>
I need to get a hold of the "When Dream and Day Unite" CD, if it is even
out there.  I got the tape when it first hit the streets and needless to
say it is getting very worn.  I can make copies of it, but both my truck
and my computer at work take CDs only.  That's where I do most of my
listening - besides slapping my skins on my drums next to my stereo at
home.  I have looked high and low and I'm afraid it doesn't exist.  Any
help from the fellow ytsejammers out there would be much appreciated!  
Todd
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 09:23:26 EDT
From: ladyheather@juno.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: singers...mariah....babbling
Message-ID: <19970530.091949.3374.0.ladyheather@juno.com>
Yep....Your room mate is exactly right. One of the strange things that
you find quite often in the calculation of range is that people tend to
make up their own definitions...does it contain falsetto...how strongly
do you need to be able to hold the notes....should you need to be able to
keep the tonality all the way through.
All singers have strong points and weak points....Mariah's songwriters
exploit her falsettos abilities to sell records...Its a gimmick...same as
Jim Gillette. Each of us has their own special abilities that can be
brought out with the right song writers. I personally, am an alto....I
can sing quite high, without the use of head voice basically because I
spent an entire summer sitting with my vocal coach working on smoothing
it out. However, that doesn't mean that every song I sing needs to
contain every note in my range. What it does mean is that the notes that
were once only semi comfortable I can hit now with very little effort and
every single time. 
 To end my babbling...a singer who knows her/his craft ( yeah I wrote her
first on purpose lol) can use what they have to their advantage
skillfully while still experimenting and adding to their abilities out of
the camera's view. Sure taking chances with new songs on stage is
fun...but night after night it can take its toll on your vocal
chords....so at times it is best to lay back a little and ensure that you
can sing again tomorrow.
_the babbling Lady Dragon 
<after a little bit of insight from my terminally-singing Music Theater 
<major room mate and a little more research into Mariah's songs, she has 
<this "normal" range (forgive me, I have NO idea what the range is), this
<HUGE gap in between, and then the falsetto/scream/wailing range. 
Anybody 
<else notice this gap?
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 08:01:15 -0500
From: bwrights@dnaent.com (Bill Wrightson)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Lost in the Sky ???
Message-ID: <199705301301.IAA01749@lotus.dnaent.com>
Greeting Jammers,
Does anyone have this CD or know how to get ahold of it?  I would be
grateful to anyone who would be willing to trade it, sell it, or help me
purchase it.
Thanks in advance,
Bill Wrightson
bwrights@airmail.net (home)
bwrights@dnaent.com  (work)  
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 23:48:13 +0900
From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Symphony X
Message-ID: <199705301448.XAA26144@ma1.seikyou.or.jp>
 Yeah! Michael Romeo (guitar---Symphony X) is FAT guy. Well,I think the
trend of the looking of melodic guitarists is a bit far from pin-up rock
star. I mean they should put on meats under their skins or use hair wigs.
he,he,he...... But the most important point is whether they rock or not. On
this point,Michael Romeo is bril. 
 Well,well,well. I got my new Megadeth today. This one really rules. 
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-Keiji Nishihara
$B!!(BDoshisha Uni. Electric/Electronic Material Lab. Semiconductor ARRAY
   KYOTO JAPAN
  Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp
  tq0139@mail4.doshisha.ac.jp
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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 02:08:06 +1000 (EST)
From: A <breuric@tpgi.com.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Deliverance
Message-ID: <199705301608.CAA24570@random.tpgi.com.au>
Is this the Deliverance with Jimmy P Brown II and christian lyrics ??? or
some other band named Deliverance ??
*curious*
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 12:13:44 EDT
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: To Live Forever
Message-ID: <19970530.091647.8678.0.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
>I think that it is on the "Lie" single, but where can I find 
>it? I
>live in Brazil and so, my only chance to get it would be via an 
>on-line
>mailorder company. Do you know any (I have searched "CD Now" and "CD
>Universe" with no success).
One place you can check is www.cdconnection.com
Scott
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 12:13:44 EDT
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: The Absence of Light
Message-ID: <19970530.091647.8678.1.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
On Fri, 30 May 1997 05:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Steve Borzilleri
<magellan@u.washington.edu> writes:
>Speaking of spots on screens, am I the only person who can see the 
>yellow and black reel-change spot in the upper righthand corner of the
movie
>screen? 
Yes I have, that's supposed to let the projectionist know to change the
reels. But when you have a multi-plex theater and one person running
all the cameras sometimes they don't always work  :)
>> From: Lars Hellsten <larsh@ionsys.com>
>> Subject: Spam
>>
>> Which is fine, except I haven't seen this guy post a single thing on
>> this list that's DT related.  In fact, I haven't even seen him 
>mention DT in one of his messages.
HEY! I resemble that remark  :)
>Un-fortunately I'm guilty of the same charge. If a man is closer to 
>guilty for what goes on in his mind, then give me the electric chair for
all 
>my future crimes.
Reminds me of a Prince song. But we don't want to upset Lars so I
won't mention it (Hey asshole, you already did!)  :)
>> From: Lars Hellsten <larsh@ionsys.com>
>>
>> But it is curious that all the bands/groups people here hate most
>> (Alanis, No Doubt, Spice Girls, etc.) all have female singers... 
><shrug>
>> It was just an observation. 
I guess I shouldn't mention that I'm going to see No Doubt tonight
at Shoreline. They have a chick singer, even though most men have
bigger breats then Gwen.   :)
Scott
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