YTSEJAM Digest 2592
Today's Topics:
1) LaBrie & Gillette
by WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca>
2) Re: Glass breakage
by WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca>
3) new cds/radio
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
4) Re: LaBrie & Gillette
by Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
5) Peruvian Me? Bleeding Skies?
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
6) Welcome Back, D-Man...
by MTeiper@aol.com
7) Re: I was wrong... again!
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
8) blah
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
9) Mayadome?
by whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White)
10) categories of dt fans
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
11) Band Reviews... My Turn!
by MTeiper@aol.com
12) fates tab
by vancer1@juno.com (Ryan M Vance)
13) Re: Band Reviews... My Turn!
by Walter Semerenko <walter@orlinter.com>
14) Glass Hammer review
by Walter Semerenko <walter@orlinter.com>
15) Re: James' Onstage Antics
by bforst@busprod.com (Bruce Forst)
16) AI
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
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Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 15:35:52 -0600
From: WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LaBrie & Gillette
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970527153552.0068bb5c@autobahn.mb.ca>
>Even if they can, they rarely ever go above E; i guess they're already
>straining at that point...
>
I beg to differ ... Jim Gillette comes to mind.
> and most metal songs are in the key of E :)
>
Typically, yes...at least in the old days of metal. Also, the reason metal
sounds so depressing <hey, don't get me wrong, I love it> is it's mostly
minor in key, usually Am or Em. DT varies keys alot. For example - I&W's
common key: Bm. On Awake, common key(s): Bm & Em.
Now, on the issue of James' highest note. James' highest note on record is
an F in Innocence Faded. (I haven't quite finished transcribing ACOS, I
could be wrong.) Now, that F, for guitarists, would be the 11th fret on the
high E. Jim Gillette, on the other hand has also hit an F... an octave
higher than James. That's the 25th fret on the high E (Some of Michael
Angelo's guitars have 26 or 36 frets).
Jim & Mike got together with TJ Racer and Bobby Rock to form Nitro and
recorded 2 albums. The first album is pretty much a wank-fest...a duel
between Mike & Jim. The second album (with a new rhythm section) was more
song-based. Good luck trying to find either of these, they were deleted
long ago when Nitro broke up.
L8r
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Madness reigns in the Hall of the Mountain King
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Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 15:43:42 -0600
From: WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Glass breakage
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970527154342.0068c1dc@autobahn.mb.ca>
>> is an F above high C <yeah, the note where glass shatters.> I have his
>Ok, just want to say that there is no one SPECIFIC note that shatters
>glass. If there were, then there would be a hell of a lot less glass in
>this world.
>
>people...
>
>Steve Z
>
Gee, Sherlock, ya think???
I guess you didn't finish reading my post. You run a finger around the
rim of a wine glass. If it produces a note, it can be broken with your
voice. You must hit that exact note, and the vocal vibrations will cause
the glass to break. Not all glasses produce a note, and only the wavelength
produced by a voice will be able to break it. Playing the note on a cranked
guitar just won't do it.
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Madness reigns in the Hall of the Mountain King
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Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 17:16:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: new cds/radio
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970527171143.21981A-100000@bdmserver>
I ordered Enchant's Wounded and Magellan's Test Of Wills last monday from
cdconnection and the cds arrived 4 days later.
Test of Wills is Magellan's best effort to date. It smokes. I rank this
cd as the second best of the year right behind APSOG...
Wounded is good as well. It is a little heavier and less poppy than
Enchant's previous Blueprint... I don't know if I can say that Wounded is
better than Blueprint.
Carlo wrote:
>I had my mind blown here in the DC area by turning on my car radio at
>about midnight on Sat. and having 98Rock play "The Number Of The Beast"!
>Not during any kind of metal show, either! Of course, these guys play
>"One" and "Pull Me Under" a lot, too... (Hey, I did get some DTC in
>here, after all!)
98 Rock actually plays great tunes on the weekend. I heard Holy Diver on
Sunday in the middle of the afternoon. Unfortunately I didn't get to
listen to it too long since it was my fiance's car and she was driving...
Paybacks are hell eh??????
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| Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com |
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| "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
| "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files |
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Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 17:49:23 -0400
From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: LaBrie & Gillette
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970527174923.00953b90@pophost.fore.com>
> Now, on the issue of James' highest note. James' highest note on record is
>an F in Innocence Faded. (I haven't quite finished transcribing ACOS, I
>could be wrong.) Now, that F, for guitarists, would be the 11th fret on the
>high E. Jim Gillette, on the other hand has also hit an F... an octave
>higher than James. That's the 25th fret on the high E (Some of Michael
>Angelo's guitars have 26 or 36 frets).
Regarding the F notes on the high E string:
You must have meant 13th fret, not 11th fret, because you obviously
corrected your error when talking about the octave higher (25th fret).
KAI
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Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 16:09:23 -0600
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Peruvian Me? Bleeding Skies?
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970527160922.007d5550@postoffice.syspac.com>
Anyone notice that the "Peruvian Skies" verse riff sounds pretty darn
close to "Bleeding Me" by Metallica? I mean, I was able to sing "Bleeding
Me" along with my new DT boot (THANKS FERN!!!) earlier today.
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Peace be with you and God bless,
~Vince
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/6933
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Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 19:13:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: MTeiper@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Welcome Back, D-Man...
Message-ID: <970527191311_2053369989@emout03.mail.aol.com>
The e-mail subject pretty much sez it all...
Laterz! Matt T.
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Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 16:12:13 -0600
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: I was wrong... again!
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970527161211.007c6330@postoffice.syspac.com>
At 08:30 AM 5/27/97 -0700, he/she/it/WTF? wrote:
>>My last girlfriend HATED Rush and Dream Theater.
>
>One of my exes said Geddy sounded like an alien. Best excuse for
>domestic violence I've ever heard... :)
Yeah, that or if the chic says:
"Why don't you start listening to some REAL musicians, like Kurt Cobain or
Billy Corgan. Gavin's the greatest musician ever!"
Peace be with you and God bless,
~Vince
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Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 16:24:59 -0700
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: blah
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970527162456.006a97d4@cats.ucsc.edu>
Zach: SOmeone else mentioned that the server before arastar was bnf.com.
SOunds right to me. No, I'm not the stimpy guy, but I do remember him.
You _did_ meet me at the Awake concert in SFO, however. I was the
long-haired guy with the trench coat.
__ /\ __
__\/__\/__ ~Chris
\_||_/ http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/
/__||__\
// \ | \\ "Let nothing bleed into nothing, and did nothing at all"
\| Jim Matheos, Fates Warning, "A Pleasant Shade of Gray"
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Date: Tue, 27 May 97 19:34:55 EDT
From: whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mayadome?
Message-ID: <9705272334.AA29670@mary.cs.fredonia.edu>
Has anyone here heard anything from a band called Mayadome? Here's a review
I found on the Dutch Progressive Rock Page:
MAYADOME - Paranormal Activity (SH 10982)
10 tracks - 72 minutes
Paranormal Activity is the debut album of the Swedish progressive metal band Mayadome. The band did
however release a demo-CD under the name 'Mellow Poetry' some time ago. The four tracks that were on
that demo can also be found on the Paranormal Activity album , but have changed considerably since their
first appearance (both in length and complexity).
Mayadome's sound comes very close to that of Dream Theater, but has more feeling in the sound. On the
other hand the band does not come near to DT in the vocal department. While the vocalist did a good job on
the demo, he seems to have a huge problem with the increased complexity of the renewed material. The
instrumental team is very strong and this is shown throughout the album in the many interludes. The eight
minute instrumental title track being the absolute best piece.
If it had not been for the vocalist this would have been one of the top ranking titles of 1996, but even with
this small setback it is still a very good album which will without doubt do very well with DT fans.
Martijn: 8-
Sounds like a good review... If anyone has any info on them, I'd appreciate
it!
Chris
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Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 19:54:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: categories of dt fans
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970527194644.2569B-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Mon, 26 May 1997, Ernesto Schnack wrote:
> the 'categories of DT fans' were best described by D-man a
> loooooooooooooooooooong friggin' time ago. Remember what you wrote D?
Wow, that *was* quite a while ago. I can't believe you still remember
that. My memory of it is a bit hazy, but I think it went something like
this:
1) The prog fan, who likes DT because of their talent and their penchant
for long intricate songs. The type of person that listens to a lot of
Genesis and KC.
2) The metalhead, who likes DT because they kick ass on songs like PMU and
Mirror/Lie. Drawn to the DT sound because of the effect that Hetfield
(and others) had on Petrucci.
3) The combination listener - prog fan and metalhead. Can now put in a DT
disc and hear everything he/she wants to get out of music at once, instead
of having to load up the CD changer with Rush, ELP, Fates, and Anthrax.
4) I don't really remember if I had a fourth category or not. If anyone
still has that original post laying around (Ged knows I don't), feel free
to post it - I'd love to see it again.
-d
P.S. Thanks for the reminder, Ernie!
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Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 19:53:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: MTeiper@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Band Reviews... My Turn!
Message-ID: <970527195252_271084591@emout15.mail.aol.com>
Hey YtseDudez -
There has been some replies lately to John's request for album
recommendations... now it's my turn!! :-) Incidentally, I only have a few
that I feel I am qualified to suggest, since there are several bands I have
never heard, or only own maybe one or two of their albums. A few of the ones
listed, though, I am BIG fans of... so w/o further adieu:
Amorphis - There was a thread some time ago on the Jam regarding these guys.
Some favored the older stuff, I favor the newer stuff. But, since this IS
just my NSHO, I most definitely recommend "Elegy". (Available in America...
I do not know of any bonus trax on Japanese or Euro versions...) These guys
are amazing!!! The music on this album is so melodic, progressive, and
cohesive, it's scary! The only downer (and a minor one, at that) is the
"cookie-monster" vocals. (Whoever coined that phrase recently... you rule!)
Fortunately, the "growler" splits vocal duties (about 50/50, I think) with a
"clean" vocalist who has a really cool voice. This is still one of my
all-time faves by anyone... get this one at all costs! After that, you may
wanna try out "Tales From the Thousand Lakes" - also very good and available
domestically.
Crimson Glory - I just want to reiterate what someone else already stated...
GET THE FIRST 2 ALBUMS!!!! You can still find "Transcendence" in America for
really cheap, but as far as I know, their first one (S/T) is only available
as import for around $20. Outstanding band... keep your fingers and toes
crossed for a reunion. Oh, BTW, if you see "Strange and Beautiful"
advertised? Forget about it... it sux hard. I was very disappointed with
this one with the exception of the 2 power-ballads. Just awful. Their first
2 are absolute classics, however.
Sepultura - I have always been a giant Sep fan... until their latest "Roots".
As much as I really appreciated the band's desire to grow and change, I just
didn't like the album at all. However... "Chaos A.D." is REQUIRED listening,
IMHO. 100% killer album - heavy, but very memorable. In the running also is
"Arise" and "Beneath the Remains". Both are AWESOME, but run a close second
(tied) to "Chaos A.D.".
Hope this helps you out, John. Hey, how 'bout Dream Theater appearing in an
MTV news blurb, eh? Maybe the station is finally starting to come around...
(pause whilst I roll around on the floor laughing) well, maybe not...
Laterz, friendz... Matt T.
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Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 20:48:56 EDT
From: vancer1@juno.com (Ryan M Vance)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: fates tab
Message-ID: <19970527.175146.7487.7.vancer1@juno.com>
>Does anybody know where I can get some guitar tabs for Fates Warning?
yeah try,
http://www.harmony-central.com
from there click on guitar and then from there click on tablature do
search on fates warning and i'm willing to bet that it will be there.
that site has tab for almost every band that every plugged in.
-ryan
vancer1@juno.com
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Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 21:04:43 +0000
From: Walter Semerenko <walter@orlinter.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Band Reviews... My Turn!
Message-ID: <B0000110190@chicago.orlinter.com>
At 05:10 PM 5/27/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Amorphis - There was a thread some time ago on the Jam regarding these guys.
> Some favored the older stuff, I favor the newer stuff. But, since this IS
>just my NSHO, I most definitely recommend "Elegy". (Available in America...
>I do not know of any bonus trax on Japanese or Euro versions...) These guys
>are amazing!!! The music on this album is so melodic, progressive, and
>cohesive, it's scary! The only downer (and a minor one, at that) is the
>"cookie-monster" vocals. (Whoever coined that phrase recently... you rule!)
> Fortunately, the "growler" splits vocal duties (about 50/50, I think) with a
>"clean" vocalist who has a really cool voice. This is still one of my
>all-time faves by anyone... get this one at all costs!
I heard this at a used CD store, and was impressed. I should get this one,
but I want to get many other CDs too!
Walter.
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Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 21:07:39 +0000
From: Walter Semerenko <walter@orlinter.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Glass Hammer review
Message-ID: <B0000110192@chicago.orlinter.com>
Ok, I'm jumping on the bandwagon on reviewing stuff. Here's my latest=
review.
Band: Glass Hammer
Album: Perelandra
Label: Arion Records (1995)
Band musicians:
Stephen DeArque- leading and backing vocals, keyboards, bass guitar, Taurus
pedals, mellotron, zoomitar, rhythm programming
Fred Schendel- lead and backing vocals, keyboards, acoustic and electric
guitars, drums and programming, mellotron
Walter Moore-vocals, 12 string acoutic guitar, mo-better electric guitar
Michelle Young- vocals, more vocals, and singing
Milton Hamerick- steel guitars
Randy Burt- saxaphone
Tracy Cloud- backing vocals, speaking
David Carter- 12 string acoustic
Composed and arranged by- DeArque and Schendel
Opening comments: This is the kind of album that could sell well in
christian bookstores. I say this because this album has the same
ingredients as the successful xian band Jars of Clay=97an unique, accessible
sound and thoughtful lyrics. Unfortunately, they do not have the label
marketing strategies to reach platinum as JoC did. I would not catagorize
Glass Hammer as a "christian" band because they aren=92t out to proclaim a
message, rather as DeArque explains in an Expose article, " [Prelandra] is a
story, a musical fantasy, and it is meant only to be an =91audio diversion=
=92
for the listener...much of the inspiration for this story comes not only
from the overall theme of the books =91Perelandra=92 and =91Mere=
Christianity=92 by
C.S. Lewis, but also from a poem called =91Little Lost Girl=92 by the=
English
poet William Blake, as well as the Twin Peaks movie =91Fire Walk with Me=92=
by
David Lynch." I=92m not fond of C.S. Lewis as a theologian/philosopher, but=
I
consider him to be one of the greatest fictional writers of the century.
This album captures his creativity by using a lot of his imagery in the=
lyrics.
Overall: Take Yes, ELP, and late Tangerine Dream and put them in a blender
and you will get Glass Hammer=92s unique sound. If you are a fan of
keyboards, this album will certainly please. DeArque/Schendel=92s vocals
sound pleasing; Young has a strong female voice but lacks presence. Tracks
2-5, 12 are outstanding, and the rest are good but have different mood. If
I were to give a rating, it would be 4 =BD stars out of 5. This isn=92t
ground-breaking music, but the songs are well crafted and have replay value,
so I added the extra half star.
Sound quality: Excellent
Further information: Glass Hammer home page http://www.glasshammer.com
Songs:
1) "Now Arriving" (2:00) This track opens up with various sounds including
machine guns, broken glass, footsteps, and voice samples.
2) "Time Marches On" (10:37) This track begins with a simple keyboard
progression that builds up for a minute and a half. The only adjective that
I can describe this is uplifting. The rest of the song is catchy and has
alternating and dual lead vocals. Nice keyboard solo ending with a
reoccuring theme of the first part. This one is my favorite track.
3) "Llusion" (9:08) Organ/bass/drum assault intro that shifts back to an
accessible meter. The keyboard solo in the middle sounds very Keith=
Emerson.
4) "The Way to Her Heart" (4:47) I initially skipped this song upon the
first several listenings because it sounded like a plain acoustic song. As
I listened further, I was immediately hooked on the triple layer of melodic
keyboards.
5) "Felix the Cat" (2:34) An instrumental of Mendleson=92s Fourth Symphony,
Italian, Fourth Movement. Done in the style of ELP=92s "Hoedown" except=
more
modern sounding.
6) "Now Departing" (1:05) This track is a sample of an announcer at a train
station.
7) "Perelandra" (8:08) This instrumental track starts out as a slow new-age
sound with piano playing, and builds up to an upbeat sound.
8) "Le Danse Final" (5:19) Low droning keyboards with sax. The vocals here
are low key. Great sax outro.
9) "That Hideous Strength" (3:54) A semi-industrial song with Depeche Mode
type of vocals.
10) "Enda the Lion" (0:56) A woman being chased by an evil character and
letting out piercing screams.
11) "Into the Night" (4:46) A slow sad song with dim lyrics and monotonous
low key vocals.
12) "Heaven" (8:37) Nice mellotron/acoustic guitar opening. The keyboard
sounds here change constantly. Alternating vocals. A particular vocal
passage sends chills up my spine: "The mask is stripped away/And night turns
into day/A lion yet a lamb before her stands/The eyes you stare into/And
looking back at you/He is revealed the Son of Man" Several reviews say that
this song hearkens Yes "Awaken", but I wouldn=92t know. The song gloriously
ends with a crescendo of vocals and weaving melodies.
**
Walter.
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Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 20:17:08 -0500
From: bforst@busprod.com (Bruce Forst)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: James' Onstage Antics
Message-ID: <19970528011706985.AAA45@bforst.busprod.com>
> I know myself, more than once, have sensed my audience not paying
>attention or whatnot. Though I don't show it, it's frustrating because I'm
>putting all my energies into
>the show and into the moment on stage. Nothing else matters to me, and my
>band, than to give the audience a good show ... a memorable show, and
>making them want to see us again.
A singer has the unenviable job of being the guy who has to stand
out front and interact with the crowd.. while he is trying to perform with
his instrument! I don't blame James a single bit for getting frustrated when
he looks down and sees a crowd more interested in bruising each other than
listening to the band. Then there's the idiots that have the nerve to yell
insults between songs. Frankly James should treat these types the same way
that professional comedians treat a hostile audience, ignore them and keep
going on with the show for the people who are there to see it. At least with
music you can just crank the volume and drown them out.
bruce
bforst@busprod.com
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Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 21:36:51 -0400
From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: AI
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970527213636.00690bc4@ici.net>
>Anyway, was just wondering if any of you had heard of Auditory Imagery,
>based out of Avon, MA???? They rock!!!!!!!!
Well, there's a name I haven't heard in many moons. I don't know much about
them specifically, but I *have* seen them live. As I dig through my concert
ticket stubs, I find one for Deringer's in Brockton, MA from 9/13/91. On
the bill that evening: Rapid Symphony, Auditory Imagery, Syzygy and Vicious
Rumors. I was there only to see VR, but I distinctly remember being of the
opinion that they were the second best performance of the night.
(and on a semi-related note)
I sat at the bar after their set to have an adult beverage, not taking
notice of the people around me, until someone came up to the rather short
gentleman sitting beside me and said "Hey man, will you sign this for me?"
It turned out to be Carl Albert (VR's lead singer - R.I.P.). I was too
suprised to say anything. I kinda regret that now that he's gone - he
seemed very down to earth.
-----
Oh, and did anyone else catch the end of the MTV 500? A countdown of the
500 most revolutionary, eye-catching, trend-setting music videos in the
history of music videos - and the winner was.........
"Smells Like Teen Spirit"
I almost puked on the TV. I probably should have. :)
________Pat Sullivan__________________________________
E-mail: psull@ici.net
WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html
IRC: DDictator
NP: Deliverance - "If You Will"
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