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      1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3300
     by Daniel Vasconcelos Gomes <danielvg@sel.eesc.sc.usp.br>
      2) [Fwd: Dream Theater review Attn Mitchell Foy]
     by secrets <secrets@i1.net>
      3) Powermad 97 (LONG)
     by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
      4) Re: John McLaughlin NDTC
     by Einstein H Zappa <afn39111@afn.org>
      5) Re: Dream Theater BAD review**A MUST SEE***
     by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
      6) Re: ***
     by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
      7) multiple (Eve lyrics, Gorky Park, Atlanta review)
     by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
      8) My response to Foy's review :)
     by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
      9) BAD review**A MUST SEE***
     by VAIMAN <vaiman@mindspring.com>

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    Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 00:57:23 -0200 (EDT)
    From: Daniel Vasconcelos Gomes <danielvg@sel.eesc.sc.usp.br>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3300
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.971130005622.2331A-100000@POCAHONTAS>

    hey all

    >>YOU CAN EMAIL Poets, Artist & Madmen at: madmen@atlanta.com

            (**The above EMAIL address is NOT Mitchell Foys personal email.
    It is
               the papers email. I am sure you can write Mitchell Foy to his
               attention via email. **but is is NOT his personal email.<<

    yeah, you can bet!!! I will email this asshole!

    Daniel
    (Aragorn)

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    Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 20:56:22 -0800
    From: secrets <secrets@i1.net>
    To: Prog Rock <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: [Fwd: Dream Theater review Attn Mitchell Foy]
    Message-ID: <3480F1F5.3EDAFE4D@i1.net>

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    Here my little response, e-mailed to the screw-ball.

    secrets wrote:

    > > "Any Positive press about Dream Theater ultimately
    > > focuses on the band's "dazzling virtuosity." For any band,
    > > this is usually a clear warning to stay far away. For Dream Theater,
    > > the further the better.
    > >
    > > "Falling Into Infinity" is full of pomposity that attempts to
    > > manipulate the listener with overblown dynamics and cheesy dramatics.
    > > any given song, one is reminded of slews of yesteryear's bands - none
    > > of which are any good. In the first song alone, Guns'n Roses, Asia and
    > > latter-day Rush are prominent.
    >
    > I just want to make sure that you have this right, GnR, Asia AND Rush contained
    > overblown dynamics and cheesy dramatics? I'll give you GnR, but you must not be
    > too familiar with the other two bands.
    >
    > > It is impossible to say just what Dream Theater themselves sound like without
    > > referring to the has-beens they rip off.
    >
    > Ohhh, like Yes and Rush. I see.
    >
    > > After awhile the effect of listening becomes one big blur of horrible '80s
    > > sounds (overly boisterous guitar, wimpy synth, male falsetto vocals) that were
    > > long ago pushed deep into the subconscious with the hopes that they'd never
    > > return. Well, like the whole '80s hair-metal "movement," those painful
    > > memories are back, spurred by Dream Theater, who also mix pop-rock and
    > > prog rock into their cocky stew. Though D.T's metal tendencies lean mostly
    > > toward the wimpiest of the '80s metal bunch like Cinderella, Winger and Extreme,
    >
    > Do you even listen to this music? You must have some dirt on someone there. You
    > know absolutely nothing about this type of music. Here's a tip, go out and buy
    > some CDs. You know compact discs. You see this new music, they don't release them
    > on 8 track anymore. You must have pulled these names out of a hat. They are
    > nothing like any of those 'hair metal' bands, you turd!
    >
    > > they attempt to show they have cajones
    >
    > More than you can imagine, you pussy.
    >
    > > on the single "Burning My Soul" but still fall flat despite the presence of a few
    > > (comparatively) beefy riffs. This is mainly due to overproduction that would
    > > render a Slayer song flaccid
    >
    > Which you have continually been.
    >
    > > and bland lead singer, John Petrucci, who spends too much time in the high-end
    > > range.
    >
    > The lead singer of the band is James LaBrie. John Petrucci is the lead guitar
    > player.DID YOU EVEN LISTEN TO THE ALBUM? WHO THE FUCK DOES YOUR RESEARCH. SOME
    > MUSIC CRITIC YOU ARE. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEMBERS OF THE BAND, DILLHOLE!
    >
    > > Any lyricist who is not in, say, high school knows to avoid cliches such as
    > > rhyming "pain" and "rain," but Petrucci manages to use it in a chorus, no less!
    >
    > Ok moron, if you read the liner notes, you'll see that the song is written for
    > Petrucci's father, who passed away 2 years ago, YOU HEARTLESS WORM! DID YOU EVEN
    > READ THE LINER NOTES? Wait...of course not, YOU CANT FIGURE OUT WHOSE IN THE
    > BAND!
    >
    > >
    > > When I was in the 10th grade my class was shown an anti-drug film about some guy
    > > who was administered lots of PCP in order to coerce him into killing someone.
    >
    > Wow, I'm surprised that you made to the 10th grade, I was figuring 8th, tops.
    >
    > > Perhaps they should update that film to include the music of Dream Theater,
    > > because I don't beelieve "Falling Into Infinity" can be experienced in its
    > > entirety without compelling the listener to throttle the nearest sibling or
    > > housepet."-Mitchell Foy
    >
    > Mitchell, if you had written and produced a soundtrack, they wouldn't need to use
    > the PCP. The subjects would be killing themselves. You must have screwed someone
    > to get this job, because you haven't a clue about music. Maybe you like Guy
    > Lombardo or Lawrence Welk... or maybe you don't like anything that doesn't sound
    > like Pearl Jam or Bush. This is a shoddy piece of shit review, that shows you went
    > into it thinking that the album was going to suck. If your going to review music,
    > KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!
    > Ahhhh, opinions are like your asshole, it smells and is full of shit.
    > Schmuck.....
    > Mike

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    Here my little response, e-mailed to the screw-ball.

    <P>secrets wrote:
    <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
    "Any Positive press about Dream Theater ultimately
    <BR>>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; focuses on the band's
    "dazzling virtuosity."&nbsp; For any band,
    <BR>>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; this is usually a
    clear warning to stay far away.&nbsp; For Dream Theater,
    <BR>>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the further the better.
    <BR>>
    <BR>>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
    "Falling Into Infinity" is full of pomposity that attempts to
    <BR>>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; manipulate the listener
    with overblown dynamics and cheesy dramatics.
    <BR>>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; any given song, one
    is reminded of slews of yesteryear's bands - none
    <BR>>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; of which are any
    good. In the first song alone, Guns'n Roses, Asia and
    <BR>> latter-day&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Rush&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
    are prominent.

    <P><B>I just want to make sure that you have this right, GnR, Asia AND
    Rush contained</B>
    <BR><B>overblown dynamics and cheesy dramatics?&nbsp; I'll give you GnR,
    but you must not be</B>
    <BR><B>too familiar with the other two bands.</B><B></B>

    <P>> It is impossible to say just what Dream&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Theater
    themselves sound like without
    <BR>> referring to the has-beens they&nbsp; rip off.<B><TT></TT></B>

    <P><B><TT>Ohhh, like Yes and Rush.&nbsp; I see.</TT></B>

    <P>>&nbsp; After awhile the effect of listening becomes one big blur of&nbsp;
    horrible '80s
    <BR>> sounds (overly boisterous guitar, wimpy synth, male falsetto vocals)
    that were
    <BR>> long ago pushed deep into the subconscious with the hopes that they'd
    never
    <BR>> return.&nbsp; Well, like the whole '80s hair-metal&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
    "movement," those painful
    <BR>> memories are back, spurred by Dream Theater, who also mix&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
    pop-rock and
    <BR>> prog rock into their cocky stew.&nbsp; Though D.T's metal tendencies
    lean mostly
    <BR>> toward the wimpiest of the '80s metal bunch like Cinderella, Winger
    and Extreme,

    <P><B>Do you even listen to this music?&nbsp; You must have some dirt on
    someone there.&nbsp; You</B>
    <BR><B>know absolutely nothing about this type of music.&nbsp; Here's a
    tip, go out and buy</B>
    <BR><B>some CDs.&nbsp; You know compact discs.&nbsp; You see this new music,
    they don't release them</B>
    <BR><B>on 8 track anymore. You must have pulled these names out of a hat.&nbsp;
    They are</B>
    <BR><B>nothing like any of those 'hair metal' bands, you turd!</B>

    <P>> they attempt to show they have cajones

    <P><B>More than you can imagine, you pussy.</B>

    <P>> on the single "Burning My Soul" but still fall flat despite the presence
    of a few
    <BR>> (comparatively) beefy riffs.&nbsp; This is mainly due to overproduction
    that would
    <BR>> render a Slayer song flaccid

    <P><B>Which you have continually been.</B>

    <P>> and bland lead singer, John Petrucci, who spends too much time in
    the high-end
    <BR>> range.

    <P><B>The lead singer of the band is James LaBrie.&nbsp; John Petrucci
    is the lead guitar</B>
    <BR><B>player.DID YOU EVEN LISTEN TO THE ALBUM?&nbsp; WHO THE FUCK DOES
    YOUR RESEARCH.&nbsp; SOME</B>
    <BR><B>MUSIC CRITIC YOU ARE.&nbsp; YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEMBERS OF THE
    BAND,&nbsp; DILLHOLE!</B><B></B>

    <P>>&nbsp; Any lyricist who is not in, say, high school knows to avoid
    cliches such as
    <BR>> rhyming "pain" and "rain," but Petrucci manages to use it in a chorus,
    no less!

    <P><B>Ok moron, if you read the liner notes, you'll see that the song is
    written for</B>
    <BR><B>Petrucci's father, who passed away 2 years ago, YOU HEARTLESS WORM!&nbsp;
    DID YOU EVEN</B>
    <BR><B>READ THE LINER NOTES?&nbsp; Wait...of course not, YOU CANT FIGURE
    OUT WHOSE IN THE</B>
    <BR><B>BAND!</B>

    <P>>
    <BR>> When I was in the 10th grade my class was shown an anti-drug film
    about some guy
    <BR>> who was administered lots of PCP in order to coerce him into killing
    someone.

    <P><B>Wow, I'm surprised that you made to the 10th grade, I was figuring
    8th, tops.</B>

    <P>> Perhaps they should update that film to include the music of Dream
    Theater,
    <BR>> because I&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; don't beelieve "Falling Into Infinity"
    can be experienced in its
    <BR>> entirety without compelling the listener to throttle the nearest
    sibling or
    <BR>> housepet."-Mitchell Foy

    <P><B>Mitchell, if you had written and produced a soundtrack, they wouldn't
    need to use</B>
    <BR><B>the PCP.&nbsp; The subjects would be killing themselves.&nbsp; You
    must have screwed someone</B>
    <BR><B>to get this job, because you haven't a clue about music.&nbsp; Maybe
    you like Guy</B>
    <BR><B>Lombardo or Lawrence Welk... or maybe you don't like anything that
    doesn't sound</B>
    <BR><B>like Pearl Jam or Bush.&nbsp; This is a shoddy piece of shit review,
    that shows you went</B>
    <BR><B>into it thinking that the album was going to suck.&nbsp; If your
    going to review music,</B>
    <BR><B>KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!</B>
    <BR><B>Ahhhh, opinions are like your asshole, it smells and is full of
    shit.</B>
    <BR><B>Schmuck.....</B>
    <BR><B>Mike</B></BLOCKQUOTE>
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    Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 21:23:02 -0500
    From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Powermad 97 (LONG)
    Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971130022302.0067cce4@pop.pipeline.com>

    Ok, I just got home from my second night at the Powermad
    97 festival held in suburban Baltimore. Since I have been
    pretty sick lately I only stayed until around 9pm each
    night, but what I saw/heard makes me wonder why hardly
    anyone showed up. If you live on the east coast you had
    no excuse for not coming to this show! For 30 bucks you
    got three nights of indy prog metal, three free cds (long
    cds, I might add), and some of the best deals on indie/import
    cds from such vendors as KOTR, Laser's Edge, Century Media,
    and others. I bought many cds at this show! They had EVERYTHING! I bought:
    Iced Earth - The Dark Saga, Gamma Ray - Somewhere Out in Space,
    Soundscape - Discovery, Digital Ruin - Listen, Enertia - Momentum,
    Angra - Holy Live, Solitude Aeturnus - Into the Depths of Sorrow,
    Last Chapter - The Living Waters, The Quiet Room - Introspect,
    and Misconception - Undercurrent. Only the Angra cd cost more than
    12 DOLLARS!!! As for the bands, almost every one of them was
    great. The Quiet Room drove all the way from Colorado. Misconception
    had the misfortune of opening the show, but were pretty cool
    guys, and talented musicians. Enertia drove in from upstate NY,
    and put on a powerful show. Soundscape was incredible. Our
    very own jammer Mike Blevins' band Division, while hampered by
    continual sound problems was solid. I didn't even stick around
    to hear Vicious Rumors, Mystic-Force, Leviathan, Maraya, Mercury
    Rising, or Braindance, so you can imagine the what I missed!
    Unfortunately Ice Age, Elegy, Forte, Lethal, and Digital Ruin
    had to cancel. But the best part of the event was the cool vibe
    that permeated those in attendance. Everyone was cool, knowledgable,
    and open-minded. How refreshing. I had an epiphany of music. I now
    realize there is SO MUCH talent out there that even if all the major
    labels stop putting out Prog Metal, the independant world will make up
    for it!! Dream Theater doesn't seem so important any more. If they want
    to explore commercial avenues? It's ok, there are a million indy
    bands hungering for our attentions. I only wish more people were there
    to get in on this.

    Green Bay Packers - The Quest to Repeat - Detroit Red Wings
    9-3 17-6-4
    at Vikings vs Canucks

    Kevin

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    Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 21:30:00 -0500 (EST)
    From: Einstein H Zappa <afn39111@afn.org>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: John McLaughlin NDTC
    Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.971129212352.17375B-100000@freenet2.afn.org>

    I didn't even know McLaughlin had a Europa Concerto, but I have the
    Mediterranean Concerto, which I got from Columbia House -- likely, any big
    music store could order it for you as well.

    The Med. Concerto isn't that fantastic, though, but is pleasant to listen
    to. The second movement I think is the best, using the main theme from
    "David" off PASSION, GRACE, AND FIRE ... really beautiful. But I tend to
    like more rigorous classical -- Stravinsky, Shostakovich, Messiaen.

    BUT, also on this CD are five duos for Guitar and Piano, with Katia
    LaBeque on piano, and these are just breathtaking. Better than the
    Concerto, I'm sure.

    There has only been one thing in my life worth living for,
    So it would take a true genius to fuck it up.
    Call me Einstein Hawkings Tolkien Heraclitus Darwin PKD Zappa.
    (http://www.afn.org/~afn39111)

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    Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 21:47:48 -0600 (CST)
    From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Dream Theater BAD review**A MUST SEE***
    Message-ID: <199711300347.VAA21257@enteract.com>

    Whatever.

            I support this dude's right to his opinion, but to think there's
    not an agenda here is ridiculous. Think about this, though. Imagine
    there's a Snoop Doggy Dog list out there somewhere... and imagine for your
    local dimestore newspaper, you are in charge of reviewing Snoop Donkey
    Dick's album... if their list got a hold of that review, it would look
    something like what we just saw. No reason to get pissy.
            The way I look at it, there is clearly some outside motivation in
    that review. Maybe the dude just needs to listen to Big Wreck or
    Everclear or something... let him get his rocks off. Doesn't change the
    way things are. Meanwhile, his trend is dying, and Dream Theater is
    plowing on, outside the influence of MTV's puppet strings.
            I'm not gonna cry.

     --

    Chris Ptacek at EnterAct, L.L.C -- (773) 248 8511
    http://www.enteract.com (business)
    http://www.prognosis.com/madsman/ (my contribution to
    --------------------------------- the vast wealth of
    "To err is human... to suck out | underdeveloped
     one's brain with an orally | web sites)
     deployed flesh tube is not."-MS| ****************
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    Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 23:28:43 -0500
    From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: ***
    Message-ID: <19971129183518.AAA4221@sni.pananet.com>

    > On the topic of complexity, I think another thing is important to
    > consider. DT is not playing with a score or conductor, yet their
    > arangements and counterpoint are tight. No, it's not as complex as

    Well I'm way out of my league here, but i always unerstood that the reason
    orchestras need a conductor, was due to the sheer size. Since it takes time
    for sound to travel from one end to the other, its impossible to simply
    follow everything by ear. In any case, I'd imagine the players would be
    paying close attention to the rest of their section.

    And when its small ensembles there isnt a conductor...but one of the
    musician is the leader (I'm not too sure about this). In rock, generally
    speaking, the leader would be the drummer, since he usually sets the beat.

    > I don't beelieve "Falling Into Infinity" can be experienced in its
    >entirety without
    > compelling the listener to throttle the nearest sibling or house
    >pet."-Mitchell Foy

    How come evrytime a reviewer disses DT everybody has to flame him? Whats
    the point? I understand how you feel;I'm bothered by that as well, and
    feel a natural urge to show him how 'wrong' he is. But the truth is, its
    his opinion and he has a right to it. If you really want to tell him a
    thing or two, at least do it maturely with some real arguments, instead of
    just insulting the bastard:)

    later,
    Ernesto

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    Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 23:41:54 -0500 (EST)
    From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: multiple (Eve lyrics, Gorky Park, Atlanta review)
    Message-ID: <199711300441.XAA10216@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>

    A few quick things... First off, the Eve "lyrics" are taken from my
    page (www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/dt.html). I have the lyrics there
    for Eve and the ACoS from the DoE Limelight show (I did those lyrics a
    few years ago (before Awake even came out) when I was bored one day
    and sat down for about 2 hrs to get ACoS down, comparing that to the
    vocalist audition tapes. Here are the Eve lyrics, I'll leave out
    ACoS... oh, (To Live) Forever are also there (again, a really old
    version of the song)

    >Song: EVE (live)
    >
    >The lyrics are from "Portrait of an Artist as a Young Man" by James Joyce.
    >The "moo cow" part is from somewhere else, the "ivory tower" part from
    >somewhere else still, and the "Our Father" part from the Lord's Prayer. The
    >transcription is as follows.
    >
    > [soft piano]
    > Chapter One. Once upon a time, and a very good time it was,
    > There was a moo cow coming along down the road.
    > [instrumental]
    > So He came Himself in weakness, not in power,
    > And He sent thee, the creature, in His stead.
    > With the creature's comeliness, and luster,
    > Suited to our state.
    > [brief break]
    > And now, thy very face and form dear mother
    > Speak to us of the eternal.
    > Not like earthly beauty, dangerous to look upon;
    > But like the morning star, which is thy heirloom,
    > Bright, and musical, breathing purity,
    > Telling of Heaven and its easing peace.
    > [brief break]
    > O harbinger of day! O light of the pilgrim!
    > Lead us still, as thou hast led,
    > In the dark night, across the bleak wilderness;
    > Guide us on to our Lord Jesus; guide us home.
    > [instrumental]
    > "Tower of Ivory?" they used to say, "House of Gold?"
    > "How could a woman be a tower of ivory or a house of gold?"
    > [instrumental]
    > Our Father, who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name,
    > Lead us not into temptation, and deliver us from evil.
    > [fadeout]
    >
    > This has been used live as an intro to both Pull Me Under (on the
    >Dance of Eternity bootleg, which is also the most complete version) and
    >Learning to Live (at any number of shows, including both Phoenix shows of
    >March and May 1993, among others, and skips the Tower of Ivory part) The
    >above is the composite transcription. At times, it has been performed
    >without the voice samples altogether.

    Next, Gorky Park... yeah, I sorta remember them... I actually have a
    vide tape (_somewhere_) frm a show where they were openers in Moscow
    for some international rock festival... think that AC/DC, Scorpions,
    and Motley Crew played there, or something like that...

    Finally on to the review someone posted from that Atlanta newspaper...

    >
    > "Any Positive press about Dream Theater ultimately
    > focuses on the band's "dazzling virtuosity." For any band,
    > this is usually a clear warning to stay far away.

    Well, at least this guy starts out with a warning indicating that he
    is clieless, and that talent is meaningless, so we have to give him
    some credit.

    [chop]
    > any given song, one is reminded of slews of yesteryear's bands - none
    > of which are any good. In the first song alone, Guns'n Roses, Asia
    > and latter-day Rush are prominent. It is impossible to say just what

    Well, again, a clueless aleart, I would think that the reference to
    Rush alone is enough to let us know what level of person we are
    dealing with here. Uhh, last time I looked, Rush was around for ohh,
    over 20 years... probably longer than this guy's been alive... next
    thing, he'll be trashing the Pink Floyd influence in Peruvian
    Skies...

    > their cocky stew. Though D.T's metal tendencies lean mostly toward
    > the wimpiest of the '80s metal bunch like Cinderella, Winger and
    > Extreme, they attempt to show they have cajones on the single "Burning

    Huh? I'm confused.

    > My Soul" but still fall flat despite the presence of a few
    > (comparatively) beefy riffs. This is mainly due to overproduction
    > that would render a Slayer song flaccid and bland lead singer, John
    > Petrucci, who spends too much time in the high-end range. Any

    again, clueless target permanently tatooed to this persons head. If
    he can't read the jacket, he doesn't belong working for a "newspaper"

    Well, it just goes to show you, the clueless are about to attack.

    -- 
    +------------------------------------------+-----------------------+
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    | will flush you mind right down the drain | Falling Into Infinity |
    | --- taken from: Just Let Me Breathe ---  |   In Stores NOW!!     |
    +------------------------------------------+-----------------------+
                                  Michael Burstin: mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
    Oh my God, they've killed Kenny!! http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/
    Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email: http://www.cauce.org
    

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    Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 20:58:52 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: My response to Foy's review :) Message-ID: <199711300458.AA07435@crl.crl.com>

    I just posted this on-the-fly back to POETS, ARTISTS & MADMEN at the email address listed. It's a small, casual free weekly (or monthly); they'll have no problem with the tone or the language. :)

    +----------------------------+

    Congratulations; that was perhaps the funniest music review I've read in YEARS! Not only does your hapless reviewer get the band's vocalist wrong (of course, it's James Labrie and not John Petrucci -- a fact that anyone who follows rock/metal vocalists would know), but he clearly doesn't know good progressive music from a rat's ass.

    Even my staunchest thrash/metalhead friends concede that Rush -- to use one of Mr. Foy's examples -- is comprised of excellently talented musicians, regardless of how you feel about their music. Another of his examples, Asia, contains talent in perhaps equal measure. If I were in a band, I'd be overjoyed to be compared to bands with the musical talent of Rush and Asia.

    Perhaps you should entrust any further reviews of progressive rock and metal to someone who might actually have a quarter to buy a clue. I'd be glad to do it for you for nothin'. Ask your reviewer if he's ever heard of Gentle Giant, Spock's Beard, Symphony-X, Superior, Angra, Fates Warning or Savatage. Ask him if he knows what a Chapman Stick is (obviously he doesn't, or he might have mentioned that bassist John Myung plays it on FALLING INTO INFINITY). After he says "huh," drop-kick his ass as far away from your otherwise-OK publication as you possibly can; he has no place reviewing music that's beyond his tender ears to deal with.

    --Paul W. Cashman Atlanta

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    Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 00:37:15 -0500 From: VAIMAN <vaiman@mindspring.com> To: Ytsejam@ax.com Subject: BAD review**A MUST SEE*** Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971130053715.006a759c@pop.mindspring.com>

    Hey all, I live here in Atlanta GA and noticed a music review in a small Atlanta publication called "Poets, Artists & Madmen". In the Nov 21-Dec 4th review...here is what Mitchell Foy had to say on the Dream Theater "Falling Into Infinity" cd review:

    **THE FOLLOWING DOES NOT REFLECT MY VIEWS**-todd s

    "Any Positive press about Dream Theater ultimately focuses on the band's "dazzling virtuosity." For any band, this is usually a clear warning to stay far away. For Dream Theater, the further the better. "Falling Into Infinity" is full of pomposity that attempts to manipulate the listener with overblown dynamics and cheesy dramatics. any given song, one is reminded of slews of yesteryear's bands - none of which are any good. In the first song alone, Guns'n Roses, Asia and latter-day Rush are prominent. It is impossible to say just what Dream Theater themselves sound like without referring to the has-beens they rip off. After awhile the effect of listening becomes one big blur of horrible '80s sounds (overly boisterous guitar, wimpy synth, male falsetto vocals) that were long ago pushed deep into the subconscious with the hopes that they'd never return. Well, like the whole '80s hair-metal "movement," those painful memories are back, spurred by Dream Theater, who also mix pop-rock and prog rock into their cocky stew. Though D.T's metal tendencies lean mostly toward the wimpiest of the '80s metal bunch like Cinderella, Winger and Extreme, they attempt to show they have cajones on the single "Burning My Soul" but still fall flat despite the presence of a few (comparatively) beefy riffs. This is mainly due to overproduction that would render a Slayer song flaccid and bland lead singer, John Petrucci, who spends too much time in the high-end range. Any lyricist who is not in, say, high school knows to avoid cliches such as rhyming "pain" and "rain," but Petrucci manages to use it in a chorus, no less! When I was in the 10th grade my class was shown an anti-drug film about some guy who was administered lots of PCP in order to coerce him into killing someone. Perhaps they should update that film to include the music of Dream Theater, because I don't beelieve "Falling Into Infinity" can be experienced in its entirety without compelling the listener to throttle the nearest sibling or house pet."-Mitchell Foy

    ((end of letter)

    Obviously THIS GUY Doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. He doesnt even know who the lead singer is. What a dumb ass. I bet he didn't even listen to the cd. If you would like to respond to him, you can contact MITCHELL FOY (contributing writer).

    Poets, Artists & Madmen, Attn: Mitchell Foy 175 W. Wieuca Road NE, Suite B-1 , Atlanta, Georgia 30342

    YOU CAN EMAIL Poets, Artist & Madmen at: madmen@atlanta.com

    (**The above EMAIL address is NOT Mitchell Foys personal email. It is the papers email. I am sure you can write Mitchell Foy to his attention via email. **but is is NOT his personal email.

    write those letters!

    see ya

    Todd s

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