YTSEJAM Digest 3266
Today's Topics:
1) metallica
by "Tedesco, Matthew" <tedescom@BDD.com>
2) Seattle show 11/15 review (long) Part 1
by Ken McWatters <kmcwatters@yahoo.com>
3) Seattle show 11/15 review (long) Part 2
by Ken McWatters <kmcwatters@yahoo.com>
4) To Live Forever
by Glen Brooks <g_brooks@yahoo.com>
5) drummers, inner strength
by "Tedesco, Matthew" <tedescom@BDD.com>
6) re: Vixen
by <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng"
7) Treasure Land
by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@bostech.com>
8) RE: Girls and prog...
by "i don't wanna seem like randy pan the goat boy" <afn39111@afn.org>
9) Re:Power of Omens / Female Singers?
by Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
10) Re: "Opinions about FII" by Mr Ptacek
by someone@prognosis.com
11) DT at Toads Place
by mscurfie@pop.ma.ultranet.com (Matthew Scurfield)
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3265
by Jason Birzer <Longshot@pressroom.com>
13) Pittsburgh show
by Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:01:00 -0500
From: "Tedesco, Matthew" <tedescom@BDD.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: metallica
Message-ID: <199711201757.MAA29175@bertelsmanncis.com>
Hey all,
from paul d.:
>Metallica are sacrificing integrity for professionalism...
agreed.
>Everyone wants to work less for more cash, even Metallica, and now they
are
>doing it.
yup. (well, most everyone, anyways...)
>It's not my right to say if this is good or bad...but I don't
>listen to anything from "And Justice etc" onwards.
WHAT?! you can't be serious, including justice in this. you may not
*like* it, but that album has the most complicated songs of all their
albums, and i'd say it required as much work (or more) than the previous
three.
concerning metallica, as unhappy as i am about their turn of career,
nonetheless, they are a primary influence on dt. people have every
right to bring them up 'round here, so long as posts about ryche, fates,
and a slew of other bands pop up around here too. i for one appreciate
the reviews and comments on reload--i was most disappointed with load
(what else is new), and it helps to hear people's thoughts and ideas
about the new album to decide if i should pick it up. and i'll trust dt
fans over any other group any day. yeah, i could go to some metallica
group, but how objective a picture am i really gonna get?
--MATt
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:33:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Ken McWatters <kmcwatters@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Seattle show 11/15 review (long) Part 1
Message-ID: <19971120183337.20821.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com>
Hi everyone,
I've been busy and trying to get this message sent to the jam
(hotmail still doesn't work), but hopefully this will work, if it's a
little dated anyway.
Okay dudes and dudettes,
Here's a spoiler-resistant (no setlist) review of the 11/15 show in
Seattle, WA. As you may be aware, Nicole and I flew up there from
Houston to see the show and have a nice little mini-vacation.. and it
turned out to be unusually clear and beautiful weather there! It was
a great weekend. In fact, Nicole called into KISW 99.9 to request DT
before the show that night, and the DJ came on and announced that the
request was from someone who flew in from Houston to see the show.
Nice promotion for the band if I say so.. and Nicole got to hear DT on
the radio for the first time ever (UAGM). You know.. I told Nicole
after the show that it's times like this that all the drudgery of
working for a living really seems worth it. Every so often you have a
special experience like this, and you know you're really alive and
you're enjoying life's rewards.
On to the review.. I'll just give general impressions of the show
and talk about meeting the guys after the show. First off, this show
was sold out (there were signs on the show poster outside saying so).
People were waiting outside the door probably in vain to get in when
we showed up (somewhat late... we only saw half of Big Wreck's set)
and got in with the tickets we had purchased beforehand. Big Wreck
was a decent band.. the most talented member had to be the singer/lead
guitarist. He did a blues song by himself full of slide guitar
soloing that was rather impressive. They are kind of an
AOR/alternative crossover I guess, if you had to put a label on them.
I even heard comments from people around me saying, "I'm getting their
CD!" However, as others have mentioned, they didn't really belong at
a DT show, aside from the fact that they could definitely play their
instruments well (well, the drummer was rather minimalist in his
playing, but was still okay).
Well, in between sets, the very full club didn't clear out much, but
we managed to move near some bar tables just above the floor level,
which was good for Nicole so she could see. The preshow DT songs
weren't very loud, and the only song I recognized was Where Are You
Now. Sorry Jim Beavens, I don't remember the last song before they
played Rooster that you liked. This song was cut off in the middle
and then Rooster was played and, well, you know what happens next. :)
Again, look for Nicole's post if you want a setlist. Derek came out
first and did a bit of keyboard soloing, and really asserted himself
to the crowd... he's now Mr. Stage Presence! I'd give him the Most
Improved Award since the Awake tour (last time I saw them). Let's
see.. Mike was Animal on the drums, never let up for a moment.. James
sang very well, and seemed very professional for his in between song
comments, Myung was very impressive on the bass (normal and fretless!)
and the stick, and Petrucci was always dead-on in everything he played.
Things I noticed. There were no samples played. Once or twice Mike
spoke a part that was sampled on the studio album (e.g. "Step right
up, folks"). The backup vocals from Mike and Petrucci (more often
Mike though) were good, from what I could tell, but they weren't
really up in the mix. As Trevor Hoit mentioned in his post, the
bass/keyboard connection cut out a couple of times, but the band
seemed to laugh it off and took it pretty well, and they also managed
to keep playing through it all anyway. It was interesting hearing
just Petrucci playing what was supposed to be the dual run with Derek
in JLMB. But anyway, I actually only heard one musical mistake that
you couldn't blame on equipment problems.. not bad for 2 hours of
playing. Also, I put up my arm as I yelled "Please don't go!" during
that part of ACOS, but I didn't notice anyone else doing so. I may
have heard one or two voices from behind me though. And based on his
post, I must have seen Jim holding up his ytsejam sweatshirt at the
appropriate moment. I was about 10 rows of people behind him.
Overall, it was quite a good concert. IMO it wasn't as intense as the
Awake show I saw.. but that's a subjective opinion, I'll admit. We
did encounter a few rude people there, but I attribute that to the
club being very full and probably fraying on everyone's nerves.
Nicole and I both didn't think the volume was too loud though; good
thing since we packed our earplugs, but forgot to take them to the
show. After the show I met Trevor from the 'jam and 3 or 4 other
jammers... sorry I don't remember your names. Also, I hope y'all
didn't mind that I didn't say much.. I'm somewhat of a shy person to
talk to. Oh, and the funniest moment of the night came during the
playback of the lounge version of UAGM. A guy not too far away said,
"What the fuck is this?" I smiled and submitted, "Under a Glass
Moon!" He said, "Well, I know *that*, but what the fuck is this??"
:) It sounded like something you'd hear coming out of a mall
piano/organ store.. but true to the original, including a more DT-like
instrumental section. It also had a casual, normal octave vocal,
which set the lounge atmosphere nicely.
Part 2 to follow.
==
Ken kmcwatters@hotmail.com - kmcwatters@yahoo.com
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/kmcwatters
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:39:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Ken McWatters <kmcwatters@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Seattle show 11/15 review (long) Part 2
Message-ID: <19971120183956.23612.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com>
As I was sidling toward the t-shirt booth after the show, I saw Derek
just walking by through the medium sized crowd in the entrance hall,
and hardly anyone seemed to recognize him. He didn't look at me as he
passed, but I patted him on the shoulder and said, "Good job tonight,
man." He didn't acknowledge me, because a blonde girl just behind me
started talking to him and I think he was a little more interested in
her. :) I don't think this was the waitress; he must've met her
later. I saw the two of them coming out of the tour bus like Trevor
and Jim have written in their reviews, but I missed the high-fives
unfortunately. :) Interestingly, a little later another waitress
came to the bus and asked a crew member if a blonde waitress was in
the bus... apparently she was worried that Derek was molesting her or
something, or else maybe her break was just over. :)
After the show a decent sized group of people waited outside their
tour bus (parked outside the front entrance). It was in the low 40s,
but I wanted to show my ytse to any fans/jammers/band members who
might recognize it, so I wore like 3 shirts with the ytsejam shirt on
top. It wasn't bad at first, but by the time I had gotten stuff
signed from most band members, I was pretty damn cold. Of course, it
was worth it.
Let's see... Mike and Petrucci got the most attention from autograph
seekers, and Petrucci didn't stay out long... he was telling Mike that
he needed some sleep and didn't want them to stay there very much
longer. It turns out that they were getting ready for a
day-and-a-half drive on the tour bus to Wisconsin. I got a pic of
Mike with Nicole and heard him talking a little bit. He said in
response to a question about Kevin Moore that "Kev came to see us at
the show in L.A." He also said that he thinks the tour will be
through Texas in January.
The only member who I shook hands with was John Myung, as unlikely as
that may seem. He stayed out for a good while, answering questions
from anyone who asked. He seems to be a lot like me socially..
doesn't say much, but readily speaks when spoken to. I asked him who
the Del Fuvio Monks were, and he said they are Mike, Derek and John
(Petrucci), or maybe the last one was James. He corrected himself,
and I lost track of which the last one was. Regardless, this seems to
affirm the theory put forth on the jam that the Del Fuvio Monks
represent the backup singers on FII, and/or the people using talk
boxes on Burning My Soul. I should've asked whether this applied to
only BMS or the whole album.. sorry, my bad.
As the crowd thinned and most members had returned to the tour bus,
there was a last gathering of people near the doors to the club, where
it turned out that James had appeared. By the time we realized it was
him and had gotten down there, most people had left, but he still
stayed to sign all our stuff, which I thought was very gracious of him
(considering I had 5 CD booklets with me). In fact, every impression
I got of James that night was that he's a class act. Also, I was
getting ready to take a picture of him and Nicole, and one of the
older crew members (he may have been tour manager; he seemed to be
talking to the members a lot) offered to take the picture with me in
it too. So I got into a picture with James.. quite cool! Oh, and my
wife was in it too. :) But anyway, James seemed the most impressed
that we had flown in from Houston to see them, and also said he
thought that they would be in Texas in January. As the older man
started calling for everyone to board the bus, James kind of patted me
on the shoulder, said something like thanks for coming, and left. A
cool DT moment to be sure.
Let's see. Last few details. Nicole and I talked a lot with a guy
named Trey who isn't on the jam, but he has AOL and might check out
this group and the web pages. Funny that he's originally from Texas
and went to my college, and we ran into each other in Seattle. But
anyway, he was really talkative, and wouldn't stop telling the band
members, "dude, these guys flew in from Houston to see you!" :) What
else... I never mentioned to the band members that I was a ytsejammer,
and I dunno if they recognized the shirt or not. Also, James said at
the end of the show that they'd be "back in '98."
I think that's about all there is worth telling about this cool show.
Email privately if you have any other questions about anything I may
have left out. A few last details: Zach asked about the instrumental
part played in the middle of Metropolis... I think it was Extreme's
"Cupid's Dead." Also if you're interested, Nicole has posted (or will
post soon) many of the pictures from this weekend on her website at
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039/fenix.html .
Later! Hope it wasn't too boring.
==
Ken kmcwatters@hotmail.com - kmcwatters@yahoo.com
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/kmcwatters
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:40:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Glen Brooks <g_brooks@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: To Live Forever
Message-ID: <19971120184052.24009.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com>
Does anybody know of a different place to download the MP3 file for To
Live Forever?The server at rsabbs.com/dt is VERY slow.I really want to
hear this song,but I want to get a good download of it too.Or is there
a RA file for it?
Thanks,Glen
P.S. Re-load.....what a joke!!!
wooooohooooo!!!!!!!!!
==
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<READ THIS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Sometimes,A view frim sinless eyes,
centers our perspective,
and pacifies our cries."
Dream Theater
g_brooks@yahoo.com,GnRBrks@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:43:00 -0500
From: "Tedesco, Matthew" <tedescom@BDD.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: drummers, inner strength
Message-ID: <199711201839.NAA09786@bertelsmanncis.com>
Hello all,
-
>Heheheh, and I bet you haven't even seen Dave Weckl, or Simon Phillips,
or
>Vinnie Caluita live have you? Well... I've only seen Weckl, and that
was
>bad enough... :) But someday I hope to see Bozzio play live, that
should
>leave a nice stain in my pants...
i saw billy cobham live once--i don't think anything could top that.
anyone here ever hear of or see chad wackerman? i saw him with
holdsworth, and he was truly a monster behind the kit.
question: anyone here know of a band called inner strength? they opened
for dt way back on the i&w tour, at least here on long island. i had
their demo tape back then and i lost it (dummy). what ever became of
them? anyone?
--MATt
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 97 13:51:04 EST
From: <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng"
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: re: Vixen
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+KM6RoA@tcx.tcco.com>
>From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
>
>Hey , I like Vixen!!!
>I saw them a 2-3 times and even got a Roxy Petrucci
>drumstick! Also Share Pederson played bass in Contra-
>band, if you recall.
>O.K., I'll shut up now.
Cool, I can come out of the closet now. I loved Vixen. In fact, I just
ordered their "Vixen" and "Rev It Up" CDs. If you guys want to hear a "male"
version of Vixen, check out the first or second Trixter CDs. They sound
very...VERY similar.
"Chick singers are cool"
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 14:03:34 -0500
From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@bostech.com>
To: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Treasure Land
Message-ID: <603838AE6912D111A2B80000C07F4C9FB6B0AA@carrier.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
>> I just wanted to tell you all (if you care) about the latest Treasure
>> Land news.We have found a new singer in Jake Samuel
>> (ex.Talisman(drums) and Jakyl&Hyde(voice)).We are entering the
>> studio on the 25 of December to make the follow up to "Questions"
>> and the realese will be in February on Noise/T&T.
>>
>> Please visit our homepage for more details.
>> http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-48707
Hey, I have this disk and these guys are great !! If you like some of
today's progressive harder sounds (and I know you do, that's why you are
on this list :) then you should check these guys out. I am more
impressed every time I hear "Questions".
Later,
Mark Metzger
mmetzger@bostech.com
Five Gratuitous CD's:
=====================
1. Treasure Land: Questions
2. Dream Theater: Hollow Years
3. Symphony X: The Power Within
4. Merry Axemas
5. Bozzio Levin Stevens
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 14:05:26 -0500 (EST)
From: "i don't wanna seem like randy pan the goat boy" <afn39111@afn.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RE: Girls and prog...
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.971120135120.88468A-100000@freenet2.afn.org>
It is the great tragedy of my life that the one woman I ever knew who was
smart enough to like Peter Gabriel-era Genesis was too smart to want to have
anything to do with me. Sigh.
Of course, a woman stupid enough to like Hanson is still too smart for me,
but it's depressing how few females out there like prog or jazz or
classical.
That said, here are the females I know about who have been in proggish
bands:
Annie Haslam and the woman from the first album - Renaissance (vox)
(I have yet to actually hear the band, but it's respectable)
Ruth Underwood - Frank Zappa (percussion, marimba goddess)
Sara Lee - League of Gentlemen (bass)
Anneke van Giersbergen - The Gathering (vox)
Anna Holmgren - Anglagard (flute)
Dawn Crosby - Fear of God (vox)
Gayle Moran - Return to Forever, Mahavishnu Orchestra (vox, keys)
"O dulcissime amator, o dulcissime amplexator, ...nos desideramus ardenter
te sequi, ... quod tu desideres gemmam requirere in putredine."
--Hildegard von Bingen //// A testament: http://www.afn.org/~afn39111
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 14:05:43 -0500
From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re:Power of Omens / Female Singers?
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19971120140543.00bc9790@sol.eng.fore.com>
At 04:12 AM 11/20/97 -0800, you wrote:
>
>The band you may be thinkin of is Phantom Blue. An all Female band that
>kicks Vixen's Ass (remember them, booo). The first CD (sorry I can't
>remember the name) is most definitely 80's, (that's when it came out) and
>was full of Hard Rockin Shred. The second CD replaced a Guitarist and
>changed the sound more towards Blues based heavy rock, but still good.
The first one you mentioned was called "Built to Perform", but I'm not sure
that was really their first album. I seem to remember them having one
prior to that, but I can't say for sure. Built to Perform was released on
Geffen, so it was a little more reknown than the others.
KAI
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:23:48 +0000
From: someone@prognosis.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: "Opinions about FII" by Mr Ptacek
Message-ID: <199711201919.LAA19845@odin.ax.com>
Okay, so you guys get this letter in your mailbox and you say to
yourselves "Uh oh... Ptacek's gonna have a field day with this guy!"
I don't intend to disappoint. :)
> I know Kuba, and know his opinion about FII. Althought I don't agree this
> opinion, he obviously have a right to his own opinion. Mr Ptacek, what a
> narrow-minded are you?
You obviously didn't read what I posted. You saw what you perceived
as insults toward your friend and you rush in to defend him, blindly
ignoring his inconsistencies, and faulty view of society.
I said quite clearly, that everyone is entitled to his or her own
opinions. I also said that Kuba was making an attempt to disqualify
other people's opinions as irrational and worth "less" than his own.
I take offense to that. My opinions are no more right than anyone
else's... but to hell with anyone who thinks he can enforce his
beliefs on me! If you want to defend him, then that's fine. But I
owe neither of you any courtesy, with the attitudes you're
presenting.
> Can't you use a more polite words to describe Kuba
> and his letter? I think, you are an idiot, if you can't respect opinions
> of other people.
Thanks for the name calling. You're much more polite than I am.
I'm not an idiot, though. Ask Clark and Lars and the newcomer,
Banister. We're ASSHOLES. I didn't find any reason to post any less
bluntly than I did. I did it in a way that I thought would get
people to laugh. It worked. If that makes me a bad person, well,
I'll just sit in the corner and fling rodents at you. I don't care
to abide by the judgements of someone who is so self absorbed as to
truly believe that his way is the "Only Right Way."
> This is a childish behaviour. How old are you? 15? This
> is strange, that a few weeks ago I red a discussion on YTSE about rights
> to opinions, and now I'm reading these f***ing bullshits!!!!
Well, it may seem childish to you, but I doubt you grasp everything
I said. You, not unlike Kuba, are attacking points I never made.
If you do understand English clearly, and I mean that in all
seriousness, not as a jab... I've tried to read Spanish mailinglists
and failed, so I know it's tough... then you couldn't possibly have
read through my post. I respect opinions. I respect
assholes. I don't respect megalomaniacs or egotists. And I'm not
15, I'm 11. :) As if age has anything to do with this argument at
all...
> I think , the european prog-metal scene is better than in US. We respect
> rights of others, but you don't. So, I wish you good luck on your way to
> knowledge about a music. I think, you probably will bring me down in your
> next letter, but nevermind. I f*** it, and f*** your mail. I don't
> understand, why some people on YTSE want to make a battles with others.
I never battled Kuba. He attempted to refute some things with some
entirely flawed logic. I took offense, and bluntly decimated him (at
least I think so... judge for yourself). You're the one posting a
flame to the YtseJam, oh morally and geographically superior European
jammer, sir. :)
> In my opinion it should be a friendly channel for real DT fans. I'm
> thinking, what other bands you listen to, Mr Ptacek. Can you tell me? You
> probably have a sunglasses on your eyes, and don't see any aspects of
> some things.
I can tell you, but I hope you have some time on your hands. I have
a LOT of music, and I listen to it for a LOT of different reasons
(and though I've spent several thousands of dollars on music, I STILL
can not judge instantly if a piece is "crap." That just can't be
done, if you ask me.)
My opinion of what this channel should be is that it should be
EXACTLY and INFLEXIBLY what the welcome message says it should be.
But I have resigned myself to the understanding that it will never be
that way, so that's fine.
Now go talk to Kuba... if he wants to defend himself, instead of
sending his henchmen, you know my e-mail address. If you insist on
posting this rubbish to the jam, I'll find some way to make it
legitimate for me to respond (I'll throw in DTC and make it humorous
or something). BTW, how's that sweater coming? I know a football
team that could use some alterations on their uniforms if Kuba's much
of a seamstress...
Much love... much love.
Chris Ptacek
someone@prognosis.com
http://www.prognosis.com/madsman
Go Home and Practice!
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 14:26:52 -0500 (EST)
From: mscurfie@pop.ma.ultranet.com (Matthew Scurfield)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT at Toads Place
Message-ID: <v01540b03b099f6280a1d@[172.16.7.139]>
Hey guess what?
I'm new to the list so I'm a little behind. Please forgive me. My bass
player and I went to see DT in Connecticut their first night out. The show
was great. I've seen them four times and that was one of the best. The
sound in that club was really good and the whole band was right on. We
hooked up with Mike and Derek after the show. Mike only briefly but we
talked to Derek for some time. He was really cool with us. We gave them
both CD's of our band MYSTIC FISHOOK. well maybe they will listen to them
and dig it right? Anybody heard of us? If there was something about the
band posted on the list I almost definately missed it. I belive we gave a
CD to a guy named Brian. (I apologize if I forgot your name) Anyway if you
read this thanks for coming to Berklee to see us.
Matt
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:22:19 -0500
From: Jason Birzer <Longshot@pressroom.com>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3265
Message-ID: <0557.971120@pressroom.com>
Thursday, 20 November 97, you wrote to me:
>and isn't fucking the mail a federal offense?
No, but imagine the papercuts. (Ouch!)
:^)
Jason Birzer mailto:Longshot@pressroom.com
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 16:03:09 -0500
From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Pittsburgh show
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19971120160309.009dc510@sol.eng.fore.com>
Here's a little on the Pittsburgh show last night, although there's not
much to say after Shawn's biography was released earlier today.
Big Wreck played nothing memorable to me. I spent their whole set drinking
and bullshitting with D.C. Cooper, Royal Hunt vocalist. We reminisced
about the days when our bands used to do jam nights for 30 people. He said
it was great to have Magna Carta pick up their recent album (Paradox) for
US distribution - hint, hint - go get it. He was glad to be home for a few
days, but said he was due back in Copenhagen sometime next week, and was
suppose to meet DT there for some band related reason. Not really sure
what he was talking about here, but I thought it could be interesting if it
was for a possible touring opportunity in Europe. I also didn't know that
DT was due in Europe so soon. I asked him how it was to work with their
keyboardist Andre, who pretty much runs the band, and he said it was tough
sometimes, but that he learns a lot from Andre. When I mentioned the
notion that it's Andre's band, he stated that that perception bothered him
a bit, but that it was essentially true. He was super cool - much more so
than he was as a Pittsburgh peon. I would have thought differently, but
I'm glad to see that success hasn't gone to his head.
Derek was also roaming the upstairs (bar) area before the show, and he
stopped to bullshit for a while. He's so laid back.
DT opened with LitS again, and I'm glad they reverted back to opening with
this tune. Derek said he liked opening with it better than NM. They
played HY instead of UaGM, which I guess they've been swapping throughout
the tour. Can't really say anything negative about the show, they were
about perfect in every respect. James had a great night. You can tell
he's a bit worn from the tour, meaning he wasn't as on as he was at the Fix
shows, but he hit notes that should have been on the album, but weren't.
TAMP was absolutely fantastic. MP sang a lot of backup, more than JP. He
also sounded better. He sand a lot of NM with James, and it sounded great.
Soundman didn't have a great BVoc mix, so the chorus to LitS didn't sound
great. All you could hear was JP singing a pretty low harmony, which was
pretty loud, but you couldn't hear Mike sing his part, which probably
would've sounded great together. I'm glad to have them singing though,
it's made a great live improvement.
I talked to all of the members afterwards (man does MP take forever to come
out), and JP said that they haven't touched Met2 since they wrote it, and
said that he's forgetting more of it everyday. I'll take that with a grain
of salt. James was extremely cool, very conversational and just seemed
ultra concerned with pleasing the fans. I tried not throw up the same
conversations that they hear every night, but I had to mention how much
better TAMP was live, since it had such an impact on me when they played
it. He was very sincere and looking a little disappointed when he said
that it was one of many new ideas that they tried on the album, and this is
one that they'll chalk up as a learning experience. JM was also very cool,
and went into a bit of detail about the Chapman Stick. Someone mentioned
him being "the silent man" and he became embarrassed, and I got the feeling
that this irritates him. FYI, you might want to avoid mentioning it. Mike
showed us his picture of Melody, and she's a sweetheart. Then they were
off, and I walked away with two new additions to my full autographed DT
collection. By the way, for anyone who thought JP was short with the fans,
he told me that he had a splitting headache, and actually did return to
sign more stuff. By then, most of the afterhours crowd had weeded out.
That's all I remember, if you've even stayed awake this long.
KAI
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