YTSEJAM Digest 2958
Today's Topics:
1) Jeff's Email Needed!
by Awake77@aol.com
2) peruvian skies on dallas radio
by Brian Cox <lerxst@metronet.com>
3) Devin upset? Nah, couldn't be..., and new sig topic
by caber1@concentric.net
4) DT in UK release
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
5) re: NEED HELP QUICK!!!!
by <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng"
6) Savatage too bad, and Spicy = Good ?
by caber1@concentric.net
7) Re: DISAPPOINTMENT OF THE YEAR
by JamesAhab@aol.com
8) STUFF
by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
9) Re: James Ahab
by JamesAhab@aol.com
10) Boot-sighting
by "W. Brian Henderson" <hender@wam.umd.edu>
11) Airplay for BMS
by Paul Humm <humm@levy.com>
12) Awake
by Itchy <itchy@prognosis.com>
13) Re: Album Production
by Jon Dery <metropolis@net1plus.com>
14) Re: Album Production
by Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
15) Re: keyboards 'n stuff....
by acos0206@uriacc.uri.edu
16) No real dt content...
by Mike Skoog <mskoog@raven.phs.com>
17) Re: Awake
by Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
18) New member
by ERIC <red@chez.com>
19) Seventh Sign
by yzzy <yzzy@theonramp.net>
20) Progressive Metal Webring
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:54:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Awake77@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Jeff's Email Needed!
Message-ID: <970910155228_-298970581@emout18.mail.aol.com>
Hello! I need some help...
I was corresponding with Jeff (Chaos Theory's former vocalist), and I
accidently deleted his email before I wrote down the address. If anyone
knows it, or if Jeff is in fact reading this, would you please send it to me?
Thanks! (AWAKE77@AOL.com)
-Chris
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:15:50 -0500 (CDT)
From: Brian Cox <lerxst@metronet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: peruvian skies on dallas radio
Message-ID: <199709102015.AA25781@metronet.com>
i heard peruvian skies on Q102 yesterday. they said they they
also played burning my soul a couple of weeks ago. this was the
first tim ei had heard any of the new material (i havent gotten any
tapes of the shows since '95, and i dont have a sound card) so this
was my first opinion...peruvian skies didnt do anything for me until
the jam section at the end, which was decent. it was nice to hear
double bass drums on the radio station that usually plays alternative
stuff...
--<><><><><><><><><> Brian V. Cox (lerxst@metronet.com) <><><><><><><><><> <>rush\dreamtheater\kingcrimson\phish\moe.\toriamos\echolyn\queensryche>
"The man or woman who is insensitive to the spell of this performance really isn't fit to live in civilized society for it is one of the wonders of the world" -Frank Granville Barker <><><><><><><><><>DAT Taper/Trader - Email me for list<><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><><> http://www.metronet.com/~lerxst/ <><><><><><><><><>
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:45:40 -0700 From: caber1@concentric.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Devin upset? Nah, couldn't be..., and new sig topic Message-ID: <34172314.2E1@concentric.net>
Hi everyone,
Someone was talking about how Devin Townsend was swearing at the audience at a SYL concert. Well, the guy is in *a lot* of pain right now. When he sings, he holds onto a note, and will keep going. After doing this a couple of times, you lose some oxygen your blood. And after a few hundred times you pass out from not enough oxygen. You, also start to move your viens! I've heard that some of Devin's stomach-type viens were, uh lowered, if you know what I mean. It seems there's a new member of SYL, his name is Gordon the Impaler. :)
"And if you take one from one hundred and sixty-five, what remains?" "Three hundred and sixty-four, of course." Humpty Dumpty looked doubtful."I'd rather see that done on paper," he said. Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass Quotes that have nothing to do with C++ John McCabe caber1@concentric.net
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:31:34 -0700 (MST) From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT in UK release Message-ID: <199709102031.NAA01099@goodnet.com>
Remember, DT isn't eastwest anymore. They're on Elektra in the States, and WEA International everywhere else. You might wanna re-check the release list if you didnt see DT under eastwest before.
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 97 16:48:43 EDT From: <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng" To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: re: NEED HELP QUICK!!!! Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+TQk3oA@tcx.tcco.com>
>From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> >Subject: NEED HELP QUICK!!!! > >1.) About 2 hours before-hand, do some TheraFlu.... >2.) About 1/2 hour beforehand, douse myself with Vicks VapoRub. >3.) During the show, eat 3 Halls MenthoLyptus tablets while singing. >4.) Right beforehand, do about 4 shots of brandy
GO SEE A DOCTOR!!! The TheraFlu will leave you feeling very lightheaded, which normally would be pretty cool. But not if you've gotta go to work/gig. Brandy would probably have the same effect...
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:17:14 -0700 From: caber1@concentric.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Savatage too bad, and Spicy = Good ? Message-ID: <34172A7A.290A@concentric.net>
Hi everyone,(again :)
> From: <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng" > Subject: re: YTSEJAM digest 2953 > Can anyone confirm whether Savatage will be playing in New Jersey on Oct 17th? > I would hope to have the CD by then.
Ok, Savatage will be playing three US dates before heading off for Europe. The Oct 17th show is at the Birch Hill(oh no!). The other two are in the northeast, but I forget where. Check out the Savatage page for details... http://www.savatage.com That URL is really hard to remember sometimes. ;)
The other thing I wanted to mention was, that the US release of TWoM is now somewhere in Jan. This happened because the disc was not released early enough in Japan, which caused the European disc to be shipped later, which caused the US disc to be released late Nov/early Dec. And since the TSO disc is coming out in Dec, they don't want to compete against themselves. So, they pushed the release to Jan. The Japan & Europe CD's have the same track listing as the US, so they need extra time to sell it. Or their markets would be flooded with US CD's. ["this sucks" can be heard] --- > From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> > Subject: NEED HELP QUICK!!!!
Okay, this topic has been on here before, but I've been studying up on this. (disclaimer:I don--can't sing :) I've noticed that if you eat something really hot, as in spicy(I can see the jokes already), it clears up any junk you have in your nose. Also, for those of you who are in Canada, buy lots of Excel! It's so minty fresh, it can clear up your nose in no time! I think it's illegal in the US, for having too much minty goodness in it! :)
"Don't imagine you know what a computer terminal is. A computer terminal is not some clunky old television with a typewriter in front of it. It is an interface where the mind and the body can connect with the universe and move bits of it about." Douglas Adams, Mostly Harmless(the fifth volume in The Hitchhiker's Trilogy) Quotes that have nothing to do with C++
That Dork caber1@concentric.net
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:07:11 -0400 (EDT) From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DISAPPOINTMENT OF THE YEAR Message-ID: <970910170532_483658696@emout02.mail.aol.com>
>< They have actually written "Fallen into infinity" and not "Falling into infinity" on the promo cd... I don't know why... ><
Really? Heh. M'bad, sorry 'bout that, Michael Koshiek.
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:08:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: STUFF Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.970910170646.24962A-100000@shell.monmouth.com>
Hey. I would love to have a good sounding bootleg of the Fix shows from December if anybody has this. Please, please, please email me and help me out a little. I just want to hear what the new songs were and how they've evolved from show to album, besides, I want that new version of Caught in a web.
Reach Damon Fibraio at damon@shell.monmouth.com keyboardist, vocalist, radio personality Deviant of Reality All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer by the stars All of us do time in the gutter, dreamers turn to look at the cars. Neil Peart of Rush
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:25:31 -0400 (EDT) From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: James Ahab Message-ID: <970910172318_859965521@emout13.mail.aol.com>
>< The fact that you think they were looking for a new vocalist until 94, yet you claim to be a REAL Dream Theater fan, tells me that this is a flat-out lie, even a scam, if you will. ><
I never, once, made that claim, although I happen to be one.
Secondly, condemn me for a slip of the finger, please, when I hit 4 instead of 1. You get my point? I'll retell the story to show you the often human-mistake of typing too fast. After the release of WDADU and the short east coast tour that followed (Mechanics couldn't finance an international tour, much less a national one, nor could they finance a video), Charlie Dominici was fired due to vocal constraints (he wasn't going in the direction that they wanted him to) and bad live performances. While searching for a new vocalist between 89 and 91, they played instrumental versions of songs and experimented with such vocalists as John Hendricks and Chris Cintron. They where ready to hire John Arch until they recieved a tape from one K. James LaBrie and the decision to hire LaBrie as the new vocalist did not even reqiure thought. He was hire din 1991 and they recorded I&W in the summer of '92. The end. Happy, Abel?
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:27:24 -0400 From: "W. Brian Henderson" <hender@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Boot-sighting Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19970910172724.006a099c@pop.wam.umd.edu>
>4.Wake Up!(Saitama, Japan 1-24-95)2 CDS-$45.00
Yesterday, I went to the Record and Tape Exchange, a used CD store, and once again found "Wake Up!" huddled in with the rest of the metal CDs (metal bands like Joe Satriani -- Iron Maiden is in with rock). The price on that one was $30. Sorry 'bout the outbidding (above), but that's what they're charging. Like I said once before (I think?), I'm willing to pick it up for anyone that wants it. 'Course, with sales tax and shipping it comes to about $33.50, but that still ain't bad. I've got "Mind Control" already, so I don't really "need" it... Drop me an E-mail if'n you're interested.
Also, I just want to promise to everyone right here and now that when FII becomes mine, I will *not* post a review. That's right, no review whatsoever. Isn't that a lovely thought?
I will, however, post a "visual music" of the entire album, which will take up at least 14 'Jams because I like to use a lot of vowels.
Brian Henderson hender@wam.umd.edu
"A hero ain't nuthin' but a sandwich." -- Thoreau, _Walden_
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 12:23:58 -0700 From: Paul Humm <humm@levy.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Airplay for BMS Message-ID: <3416F3CE.1258@levy.com>
I noticed on a recent jam someone said that their local rock station had played "Burning My Soul," and that we should all send e-mail to that station asking them to continue to play it. This sounds like a good idea to me, and in fact, why not extend it further? The local rock station here in San Jose, California (KSJO 92.3) has a web page from which you can make song requests. The URL for requests is:
http://www.ksjo.com/music/suggestions/suggestions.html
I would encourage those of you who have an extra few minutes to go to this web page and request Burning My Soul. You will be helping Dream Theater by giving them more airplay, thus exposing them to a larger audience. Does anyone else want to mention a local radio station to contact?
-Paul Humm humm@levy.com
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 21:33:01 +0200 From: Itchy <itchy@prognosis.com> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Awake Message-ID: <01BCBE45.0E1F89A0@BEtor.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
Isaac Sabetai wrote :
> The reason Awake is guitar dominated is because KM did not put too > much effort into the recording. He knew he was going to move on after > Awake, so how could anyone expect him to put his mind into Awake? > Kevin Moore is the reason Awake is so heavy.
Exactly. What I remember reading was that Kevin Moore's heart wasn't in it anymore. He didn't like the musical direction Dream Theater was taking, and as a result he ended up contributing less to Awake. Just try to imagine how much more brilliant Awake could've been ! :-)
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:47:24 -0400 From: Jon Dery <metropolis@net1plus.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Album Production Message-ID: <3417156C.3523@net1plus.com>
Eric Rodger wrote:
> >In other songs, there's some very dense Floydian sections that just > >sound very trippy and laid-back. Listen to the beginning of Hell's > >Kitchen. The music makes you feel almost drowsy (A real good band > >can
> Ionian, Dorian, Phyrigian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Aeolian, Locrian, > Floydian? > > KAI
Surely you were joking when you said this...
.. but just in case you weren't and you think I'm dumb- I was not refering to modes. I was refering to Pink FLOYD.
~-~Jon Dery~-~
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 18:18:41 -0400 From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Album Production Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970910181841.010268c0@sol.eng.fore.com>
>> >In other songs, there's some very dense Floydian sections that just >> >sound very trippy and laid-back. Listen to the beginning of Hell's >> >Kitchen. The music makes you feel almost drowsy (A real good band >> >can > > >> Ionian, Dorian, Phyrigian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Aeolian, Locrian, >> Floydian? >> >> KAI > >Surely you were joking when you said this... > >.. but just in case you weren't and you think I'm dumb- >I was not refering to modes. I was refering to Pink FLOYD. >
Yes, I was joking. I figured most people wouldn't even get it, so I'm glad you did. BTW, are my spellings of the modes correct?
KAI
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:24:04 -0700 (PDT) From: acos0206@uriacc.uri.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: keyboards 'n stuff.... Message-ID: <199709102224.PAA15923@odin.ax.com>
>From: CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu> >Subject: Re: Keyboards on Awake
go to a concert.....the end. ;) here's the dragged out version:
heheh... the "Voices" in my head keep sailing on.... I mean, I must be hearing things because an "ensemble" means more than one right? and SDV is not ALL piano like WFS...right....? ok. moving on.... My professional opinion (although I'm no doctor) is that the Awake keyboards are more subtle (e.g. - the distorted-ness of 6:00 keys, Scarred, etc). Which ultimately leads to your case stating that you dislike the new twists on the Awake album although you also say that DT didn't add "new" stuff and they're turning into a "guitar band". That, in turn, leads to the fact that you may fall into the generalization of people that you want every album to sound "similar".
> Why am I even responding to you? But if you can >listen to WDADU and IaW, then listen to Awake and what's available of the new >material, and still tell me that you think the keyboards are just as much of >a presence now as they used to be, then I think you're a fool.
I disagree. a lot. and I'd like to think I'm not a fool. First, judging from this post, you seemed to be asking for this type of response. Second, PREGO- it's in there. Unfortunately you may be suffering from an acute hearing disability that renders you incapable of hearing keyboard sounds that blend with the guitar. ;) and third: if the keyboards weren't as much of a presence as they are in ANY given album then DT wouldn't be DT. If you go into an album with preconceived ideas then you're not listening. If they drop the keyboardist they might as well re-name the band.
>I posted an opinion which I tried to back up. If you disagree, fine, say so, >but I wasn't attacking you so I see no need for the sarcasm. > -Clark well here's my opinion which I tried to back up. I disagree and I endeavored to NOT use sarcasm. ;) On a little side note: My past views of the 'jam is that approximately 70-ish percent of the jammers are keyboard players. Now, isn't that the same as going into a donut shop and asking for a McD's Happy Meal??? ;)
Griswold
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"I can't believe this violence in mind and is her power all in her club sandwich" -Tori Amos- ___________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:23:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Skoog <mskoog@raven.phs.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: No real dt content... Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.970910152045.25050A-100000@raven.phs.com>
I just wanted to announce that my ytsejam folder has now reached 30 meg.
I lost about 200 of them when the box I was on lost its HD and there was no backup(suck.suck.suck)...
I wish I could remember what number I started at... it was a damn long time ago.. I would imagine around 300 or so... ( I think it was in '94 or '93)....
---------- "Unholy water Saguine addiction Those silver bullets Our last blood benediction" - Type-O-Negative "Wolf Moon"
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 18:34:52 -0400 From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Awake Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970910183452.010102f0@sol.eng.fore.com>
>> The reason Awake is guitar dominated is because KM did not put too >> much effort into the recording. He knew he was going to move on after >> Awake, so how could anyone expect him to put his mind into Awake? >> Kevin Moore is the reason Awake is so heavy. > > Exactly. What I remember reading was that Kevin Moore's heart wasn't > in it anymore. He didn't like the musical direction Dream Theater was > taking, and as a result he ended up contributing less to Awake. Just > try to imagine how much more brilliant Awake could've been ! :-) >
I don't necessarily agree with this. Although Kev's mind was wondering, I think he was still an integral part of the writing of Awake, and it's certainly evident lyrically. Most of the album reflects the pain of Kevin's announced departure from DT, from both sides of the coin. I think it's a masterpiece that a band could capture the emotion of a member leaving, on an album that still features that member. I believe Awake could not have been more brilliant. Awake also seems to me like an appropriate tribute to Kevin, because I think it's hard to listen to that album and not think about him, his departure, and his previous contributions to the band.
Just my thoughts. I'm actually quite surprised at the punches this album has been thrown lately. Maybe it's because yours doesn't include Eve and TLF.
KAI
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 00:39:17 +0200 From: ERIC <red@chez.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: New member Message-ID: <01BCBE4B.2DB20F80@eric>
Hi there I've been reading this mailing list for a few weeks, so now I'm decided to write. I'm living in france, so if there are some french guys who are reading that, can you Email me just to have a talk about DT and others.
For all the jammers : WHERE CAN I FIND (on the web) THE COVER OF FII ?? Bye
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 18:01:57 -0500 From: yzzy <yzzy@theonramp.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Seventh Sign Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19970910180157.007c4100@mail.theonramp.net>
i've heard mention of an Albuquerque band on here by the name of Seventh Sign. since i'll be arriving in Albuquerque for the Fiesta (for those that don't know, this is a week-long drunk with hotair balloons ;-) in October, i was wondering if anyone knew if the Seventh Sign is playing anywhere in Albuquerque during that time frame??
while i'm at it here, which cd stores shud i check out while i'm there? i've gotta lota friends in Alb and RR, but, none of them are into metal.
hmmm... private email response might be appreciated by some of the jammers rather then posting. (i think Mike wud agree ;-)
yzzy //Iz*zee//E*zee//E*ziz*ee//Y*z*z*y//Izzzzz ________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 19:15:55 -0400 (EDT) From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Progressive Metal Webring Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970910191311.12274F-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
Yes kiddies it IS coming! Soon you will be able to go to ALL the coolest prog bands pages with one EASY click of your mouse button! Keep your eyes open!!! If anyone has a prog band with a webpage that they want to submit...E-mail me ASAP!!! Hopefully this will be up within the week. Remember, the more pages we get...the more exposure your band gets!
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