YTSEJAM digest 3704

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Fri Apr 03 1998 - 15:30:27 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 3704

    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: Argh!
     by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
      2) Re: symphonic/keyboard prog, Artension
     by Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
      3) Re: drunk
     by "Dan Ketterick" <ketterdv@flyernet.udayton.edu>
      4) Monster of Rock in Milano (Italy)
     by Marco Petrini <mpetrini@tin.it>
      5) Innocence Cheesy? I think not.....
     by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net>
      6) Light Fuse, Getaway
     by MentalHunk <MentalHunk@aol.com>
      7) Movin On
     by Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
      8) opening for other bands
     by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
      9) Re: Innocence Cheesy? I think not.....
     by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
     10) DMB and DT
     by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
     11) Re: Innocence Cheesy? I think not.....
     by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
     12) Re: Petition Nonsense
     by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
     13) a shameless ad
     by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee>
     14) Cancel my subscr... (sorry, that was the Doors)
     by "George Szumski" <gsrockr@stratos.net>
     15) Spock's Beard reminder
     by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
     16) Re: Take a ride on a very special boat...
     by Alan Estrada Adler <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
     17) re : Bravo magazin
     by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
     18) ...
     by Clark Abel <99able@alma.edu>
     19) Re: Innocence Cheesy? I think not.....
     by Alan Estrada Adler <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
     20) Jason Becker Songs
     by Alan Estrada Adler <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>

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    Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 08:31:55 -0700
    From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Argh!
    Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980403083153.007058e8@postoffice.syspac.com>

    > I'm sure Mike Bahr would agree. :)

            hahahah!!!!

    8^D

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    Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:38:17 -0500 (EST)
    From: Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
    To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: symphonic/keyboard prog, Artension
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980403102927.5770A-100000@peach.negia.net>

    Greetings ye 'jamanoids...

    Geez, replying to my own post. I must have an ego problem...:)

    > Songs like Magellan's "Impending Ascension"

    This was actually meant to say "Magellan's "Estadium Nacional" ". But...it
    was late. Yeah, that's it. It was late and I was tired.

    Christian remarked:
    > Speaking of Artension, I heard
    > recently that John West is joining George Lynch in his new Lynch Mob band.
    > Anybody knows if that is true and how that affects Artension?

    John handled the vox for a recent leg of the Lynch Mob tour. According to
    John and George, it's only a temporary thing, though John did say he
    enjoyed the shows he did. No permanent vocalist has yet been named as far
    as I know.

    Ta,
    Phil

    =====================================================================
    Phil Carter -- satriani@negia.net (work), carter@negia.net (personal)
    Senior Tech, NorthEast Georgia Internet Access, 546-5787
    "Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life."
       -- Berthold Auerbach
    Currently playing: Crimson Glory -- "Transcendence"

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    Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:02:13 -0500
    From: "Dan Ketterick" <ketterdv@flyernet.udayton.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: drunk
    Message-ID: <199804031602.LAA0000027483@enterprise.udayton.edu>

    Chris Bowsman,
    thank you for the intoxicated post!

    has anyone marvelled at the ability to still be able to play guitar
    while D.O.A. "Drunk Off [their] Ass" ??? (not that I would recommend
    this, for Drinking and Picking just don't mix!)

    I find that I sing (very poorly, I might add)
    "it's raining, raining . . . raining deep in heaven" whenever I get
    really sauced. Anyone else start singing DT when drunk?
    --end rant--

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    Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 18:03:00 +0200
    From: Marco Petrini <mpetrini@tin.it>
    To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Monster of Rock in Milano (Italy)
    Message-ID: <35250834.6B468C2D@tin.it>

    The Monster of Rock will be in Milano on 13 june 1998.
    (The venue is not still confirmed !!!).

    The set list is:
    1- G3 (Satriani, Shenker, Roth)
    2- Deep Purple
    3- Dream Theater
    4- Van Halen

    At the moment i can't confirm the voice about the presence of Angra in
    that show.

    When i'll have more news from the italian organization i'll pass these
    in the ytsejam.

    Marco

    Italian Dreamers
    Official Italian Dream Theater Fan Club
    home page http://ben.linknet.it/dt
    email: mpetrini@tin.it or dreamtheater@ben.linknet.it

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    Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 11:24:27 -0500
    From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net>
    To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Innocence Cheesy? I think not.....
    Message-ID: <35250D3B.57306484@ameritech.net>

    > You have proven yourself unworthy by admitting you like "Innocence
    >Faded." It seems like you have to consider that song to be "cheesy" (and
    >have to love "Scarred") to be certified with good taste in music (or a
    >"prog head"). I was disqualified long ago.
    >J--- F---
    >jefffalk@bu.edu

    I really, honestly can't understand why people find Innocence Faded
    cheesy, it's one of my favorites.
    I mean, I don't see it AT ALL. I'm not even sure what makes them think
    it's cheesy.

    For those that do..... skip to the 4:00 mark (approximately) you'll find
    one of JP's most awesome solos.

    - Joe DeAngelo

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    Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:43:24 EST
    From: MentalHunk <MentalHunk@aol.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Light Fuse, Getaway
    Message-ID: <145c5274.352511ae@aol.com>

    I just saw a cd-now update, and one of the upcoming releases is
    Widespread Panic Light, Fuse, Getaway Apr 21
    Sounds familiar....Wonder if they're DT fans

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    Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:23:37 -0500 (EST)
    From: Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Movin On
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.980403121710.12677C-100000@thunder>

            Chris sent me the web site for Movin On:

    http://www.clubs.psu.edu/movinon/

    There are no bansd listed for this year but lets hope for some good ones!
    And as far as the crowd is concerned.. sure the early bands only get a
    handful of people.. but show up at 7pm and there are at least 4000 people
    there. Usually a better turn out than arts fest shows. I rememebr how
    cool it was when Rusted Root played there (i know i know.. most of ya
    prolly dont like rusted root).. there were at least 4-5000 people crowding
    the hub lawn. Helmet also had probably close to 3000 or 4000 people.. and
    I can tellyou that they were less popular that Dream Theater is. It woudl
    be a cool way to attract a lot of new fans, especially those who are
    walking by and think "wow.. they sound awesome.. i want to check them
    out!".

    Alas.. dreams.. only dreams.

    Another ironic story.. i was talking with the crowbar manager (downtown
    state college) - a place which brings acts as "Live", and asked them "did
    you gyus ever try to get Dream Theater to play here".. and the responec
    "You think they would play here? I thought they only played big venues!".

    Testimony to their popularity here.

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    Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 12:33:08 -0500 (EST)
    From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: opening for other bands
    Message-ID: <01IVFKY8SALK002QHK@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>

    Date sent: 3-APR-1998 12:24:12

    somebody wrote how DT could never open for DMB because one is so much more
    popular. I don't get it. Isn't that the whole idea of opening bands?
    Exposure? If I were in charge, I would pair only marginally related bands
    for a tour. Give the underdog a timeslot advantage, much like "Veronica's
    Closet" on NBC.

    I didn't really think about it until I started typing but I have to agree
    with the fact that most DMB fans I know are a little more open-minded and
    at least a few of them have heard of and like DT as well. Not as much as
    me, of course...

    So wouldn't it make perfect sense to give DT exposure to 25,000 somewhat
    openminded people? I saw queensryche last summer and do you know who
    opened? Piston! This is a punk band! I have absolutely no interest in
    punk albums! And you know what? They were pretty good. I was glad to
    have heard them even though demographics might speak otherwise. In fact,
    what the hell kind of relation does Big Wreck have with DT? very little
    that I can discern. And I was very glad to have heard them. Twice.

    So I think it would be a funky experiment worth checkin' out.

    josh

    ............................................................
    Check out Another Page at www.j51.com/~mrasiel. Hot Diggity!

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    Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:46:00 EST
    From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Innocence Cheesy? I think not.....
    Message-ID: <91237520.3525205a@aol.com>

    In a message dated 98-04-03 12:23:07 EST, you write:

    << I really, honestly can't understand why people find Innocence Faded
     cheesy, it's one of my favorites.
     I mean, I don't see it AT ALL. I'm not even sure what makes them think
     it's cheesy.
     
     For those that do..... skip to the 4:00 mark (approximately) you'll find
     one of JP's most awesome solos.
     
     - Joe DeAngelo >>

    i must agree Joe, definately an awesome song, great guitar solo, and awesome
    lyrics. the only thing i can think that would make some people (not me) think
    its cheesey is the "Aaaaaaaaah" in the chorus, which is a little on the
    cheesey side, but hey it's still a great tune.

    Rocky
    http://soft.simplenet.com/

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    Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:02:00 -0500 (EST)
    From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
    To: TheListFromTheDepthsOfHell <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: DMB and DT
    Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980403125752.5094A-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>

            Well, it doesn't really matter if DT should open up for DMB or
            not, because Beck and Ben Folds Five are opening up for them...
            Can't wait to see that show (even though I could live without
            Beck)

            I think that there is a slight difference between DT opening
            for DMB and Big Wreck opening for DT. don't know exactly what
            it is, but I know there is a difference there.....I wouldn't
            mind seeing it, but I think that the majority of DMB fans
            wouldn't be turned on to DT by seeing them....IMHO, of course.

            I happen to have the advantage of being able to like both
            of them just about equally as much, depending on the mood
            I'm in...

                                                    -Al

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    balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu OR sigma982@yahoo.com OR theprof@bigfoot.com
    HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html
      

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    Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:04:16 -0500 (EST)
    From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: Innocence Cheesy? I think not.....
    Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980403130215.5094B-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>

    On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, The iban wrote:

    >
    > i must agree Joe, definately an awesome song, great guitar solo, and awesome
    > lyrics. the only thing i can think that would make some people (not me) think
    > its cheesey is the "Aaaaaaaaah" in the chorus, which is a little on the
    > cheesey side, but hey it's still a great tune.
    >
    > Rocky
    > http://soft.simplenet.com/
    >

            The only thing that turns me off to IF as "semi-cheesy" is
            the chorus, but IMHO, compared to You Not Me, it's better.

                                                    -Al

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      w e w a l k i n t h e d a m a g e o f m a n k i n d
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu OR sigma982@yahoo.com OR theprof@bigfoot.com
    HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html
      

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    Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:09:07 -0800 (PST)
    From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: Petition Nonsense
    Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980403100749.4133A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>

    On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Jon Dery wrote:
    >Actually I'm thinking about starting a petition for a petition-free
    >ytsejam.
    >
    >It's old, people. It's just silly to churn out a petition each time we
    >get greedy for a new album.

    Grow a sense of humor. Did you read the rest of that post? It was
    ridiculous, and involved people sending testicles to Elektra showing how
    dedicated we were. C' mon. If you took *that* seriously, I have a bridge
    in Brooklyn I wanna sellya.

    --Matt

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    They Might Be Giants: REM with a sense of humor.
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    Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:14:37 +0200
    From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: a shameless ad
    Message-ID: <199804031915.VAA06010@cch.estcard.ee>

    If you're into music (bah), go check out

    http://www.jrnl.ut.ee/~raitz/ww.html

    for an Estonian progressive band, influenced mainly by Yes, Rush, Led
    Zeppelin and Dream Theater. (There it is, I said it.)

    The songs are MP3 and are some 4-5 megs apiece.

    Raitz

    P.S. Any comments very welcome via email.

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    Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:36:02 -0500
    From: "George Szumski" <gsrockr@stratos.net>
    To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Cancel my subscr... (sorry, that was the Doors)
    Message-ID: <000c01bd5f2f$5bb78f60$e68556cf@gsrockr.stratos.net>

    I've had enough. The homos on the list can take their
    lifestyle to PRIVATE e-mail. In the meantime, I'm
    leaving. Go on with your puny little lives. I'll see you
    in hell. :-)

    The next e-mail that goes out is an unsubscription.

    Before I go, both the HY singles I have are great. I
    got them made into MP3's so I can listen to them
    here at the computer and keep the cd's in the car.

    Bye all.

    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    I'm a drummer. I play the radio real good.

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    Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 11:33:05 -0800
    From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Spock's Beard reminder
    Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980403113303.00738758@postoffice.pacbell.net>

    Hey everyone!

    Just thought I'd remind you guys that Spock's Beard will be
    playing the Roxy in Los Angeles on April 14th. Playing with
    the Beard will be Mike Keneally and Beer for Dolphins.

    Tickets are $15... if you hurry you may still be able to get
    tickets directly from SB, but I would suggest you use priority
    mail at this point.

    Send a check made out to Spock's Beard to:

    Roxy Tickets
    Radiant Records
    PO Box 123
    Cross Plains, TN 37049

    Tickets are also available at the door on the night of the show.

    There will be a small, informal gathering with other Spock's Beard
    fans at the pub across from the venue just prior to the show...
    hope to see some of you there!

    :o)
    Lisa Marie

    np: Madonna - ray of light

    ".`^~,^. __ _
    '._',_.; Lisa Marie Peterson \ \ ___ ___ ___(_) ___
     ( \/ ) jessie@dreamt.org \ \/ _ \/ __/ __| |/ _ \
      \ / ICQ UIN#1518578 /\_/ / __/\__ \__ \ | __/
       \/ \___/ \___||___/___/_|\___|
                              http://www.dreamt.org/jessie
    ______________________________________________________
      THOUGHTS - The Spock's Beard Mailing List Homepage
              http://www.dreamt.org/spocksbeard/

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    Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:50:59 -0600 (CST)
    From: Alan Estrada Adler <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Take a ride on a very special boat...
    Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.980403135045.80520E-100000@academ04.mty.itesm.mx>

    remember frank zappa's song "he's so gay"?

    On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Matt Johnston wrote:

    >
    > To all this gay-slinging, I say, "yaheyaheyah, and if Pantera played in
    > 13/8, they'd be sphincter-prog." Get over it. Y'all are just acting gay
    > to get chicks. (grin)
    >
    > --Matt (who's just trying to be cool and move up in the MFP ratings
    > because he has... no life...)
    >
    > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    > They Might Be Giants: REM with a sense of humor.
    > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    >

    ---
    Alan Estrada
    Email: al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx
    

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    Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 21:52:11 -0800 From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re : Bravo magazin Message-ID: <3525CA8B.4A19@kr.fh-niederrhein.de>

    >Hi there!

    >>In the new issue of the German BRAVO magazine, there is a CD review of >>THE NEW DREAM THEATER MAXI CD CALLED "TOURING IN TO INIFINITY >>AND BEYOUND" !!!!!!!

    >Stop reading BRAVO, Arash. However, this single exists, but AFAIK it's just >a radio promo. The "new song" is the radio edit of Anna Lee. Nothing >spectacular, just another butchered version. The other two tracks are the >edits of BMS and YNM.

    Hey, we own a newspaper shop (kiosk) and sometimes when I help my mother in the shop, I read mostly all kind of magazins (sport/music/computer/sience). It's for free and I've nothing better to do ;-)

    >Give me a second and I will put the cover and tracklist on the THE MIRROR >web pages. This evening, maybe... too much work here.

    Thank you for the info.

    NP : MODERN TALKING - BACK FOR GOOD <--- Progressive album of the year ;-))))))))))

    Arash -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | PROG OR DIE - The Progressive Music Page | | | | DREAM THEATER - FATES WARNING - ROYAL HUNT - SHADOW GALLERY | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1748/ | | OR | | | http://lionel.kr.fh-niederrhein.de/~ashouria/index.htm | | | | by Arash Ashouriha | | | | ashouria@kr.fh-niederrhein.de | --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 15:04:42 -0800 From: Clark Abel <99able@alma.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: 99abel@alma.edu Subject: ... Message-ID: <35256B0A.7FBD@alma.edu>

    Did the second batch of stuff ever get to you? Well, Ptacek just recently told me that his mail to me is getting bounced back as well, but I talked to the network administrator and she tells me there's nothing wrong with my account. So I need you to do me a favor. Try emailing me at this address again (99abel@alma.edu) and make sure it still doesn't work. If it comes back to you again, forward the return message you get to my girlfriend at 00skpatt@alma.edu so I can see why the messages are bouncing and show it to the administrator. Also, please let me know if you got the second batch of tab. Sorry for the inconvenience. Hope to hear from you soon. -Clark

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    Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:07:13 -0600 (CST) From: Alan Estrada Adler <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Innocence Cheesy? I think not..... Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.980403140649.80520G-100000@academ04.mty.itesm.mx>

    On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, The iban wrote: > i must agree Joe, definately an awesome song, great guitar solo, and awesome > lyrics. the only thing i can think that would make some people (not me) think > its cheesey is the "Aaaaaaaaah" in the chorus, which is a little on the > cheesey side, but hey it's still a great tune. > > Rocky > http://soft.simplenet.com/ >

    I specially like the arpegios at the end.

    --- Alan Estrada Email: al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx

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    Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:09:26 -0600 (CST) From: Alan Estrada Adler <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Jason Becker Songs Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.980403140850.80520H-100000@academ04.mty.itesm.mx>

    Can anyone play any of jason becker's songs on guitar? at least Air? let me know.

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