YTSEJAM Digest 3716
Today's Topics:
1) Bass Stuff
by "Giannotti, Nick" <GiannottiN@hanscom.af.mil>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3715
by babs@sgenaa.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
3) DT doing Lynyrd Skynyrd???
by Parffit Jim Balsanelli da Silva <bre15253@datasul.com.br>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3714
by Nathan Rood <nrood@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
5) Re: celeb deaths
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net>
6) chicago
by Michael Torres <lilmikey@creighton.edu>
7) Re: DT doing Lynyrd Skynyrd???
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
8) Re:LTE reviews
by "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3714
by "Damien Harrison" <harro@netspace.net.au>
10) Re: celeb deaths
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
11) OPEN ALL NIGHT RECORDS Presents
by Volodya <provibe@club-internet.fr>
12) Irving Plaza show
by Jun-Dai Bates <jb523@bard.edu>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3713
by Matthew Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu>
14) SoCal Venues
by cherylcat@earthlink.net
15) Re: Internet Radio
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
16) Re: Internet Radio
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:20:53 -0400
From: "Giannotti, Nick" <GiannottiN@hanscom.af.mil>
To: "'matej@stones.com'" <matej@stones.com>
Cc: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Bass Stuff
Message-ID: <4AA929543BC8D111A4E800600808ACE50CADE5@HAMSXHA2>
>From: Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
>Subject: Myung`s bass
>
>Hello jammers!
>
>I have a couple dinaros saved and I though I`d buy myself
>a 6string bass for experimental purposes(I`m guitarist btw) .
>I won`t pay 2 grand for 6 string Yamaha, instead I`ll have
>it built custom at a luthier who will make this bass at a
>very reasonable price for me (he makes astonishing basses).
>So basicly all I need are the specifications of the bass.
>Does anyone know the specifications of Myung`s basses?
>I`m also wondering what kind of pickups/electronics does he
>use and how much does it costs? String gauges? Wood? Hardware?
>And what is the main difference between Tung bass Myung used
>before and Yamaha he uses now?
>Is Peavey Minx (30 Watt) a decent bass amp?
>
>Okay, I`m full of questions today..thank you in advance for
>all the answers!!
Myung's Yamaha is a shorter-scale bass (to make it easier for the little guy
to play - he's got small hands), with, I believe, active electronics and no
markers. 'Bass Player Magazine' had an article on his rig the other month; I
might still have it and can dig it out for you - it's got all the pertinent
information like scale length, wood type, etc. But what I *do* know is that
it's going to be cheaper than most of the other Yamaha basses - Myung
specifically wanted to create a good, playable, and most importantly
AFFORDABLE bass. So it'll only be about a grand, which isn't all that bad
for a signature series bass.
As far as the Peavey Minx goes - if you're thinking of getting a
custom-built bass, then get an amp to go along with it. Don't bother with a
little guy like the Peavey unless you're only going to use it to play in
your room. If you want something for practice, then it's fine, but if you
want something that you can play out with, then get something serious:
either go SWR or Eden, in my opinion. You can get combo amps from both of
those companies that will knock you right on your ass. Or, if you REALLY
have the money, get a stack (like me!). But, again, if you just need a
little practice amp, then Minx is fine. Just don't use it for playing out.
:)
I'm sure Mike Bahr would agree.
Nicholas Giannotti
"Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool."
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 10:28:27 -0500 (EST)
From: babs@sgenaa.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3715
Message-ID: <v01510100b14fb053dab8@[137.238.26.12]>
>Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:11:35 -0400
>From: MacAusland.Robert@ic.gc.ca (MacAusland, Robert: HFX)
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: Calling All Canadian East Coast Jammers
>Message-ID: <1998Apr07.090217.1255.2242756@msmail.ic.gc.ca>
>
>I know there has to be at least ONE other Canadian, east coast 'jammer out
>there? (Todd? You still with us? :)
>
>Pondering the upcoming tour dates, NYC is the nearest show.
>
>Hmmm... Roadtrip...
>
>Anyone? Anyone? :-)
Is anybody coming through western New York on the way down? I'm between
Buffalo and Rochester.
Babs
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:38:38 -0300
From: Parffit Jim Balsanelli da Silva <bre15253@datasul.com.br>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT doing Lynyrd Skynyrd???
Message-ID: <E093B0819442D111AD45002048089A6FDE90EB@itapoa.datasul.com.br>
On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Choon-Kang Walther wrote:
>> Freebird by ???(sorry!) after Take the Time.
(...)
>> Take The Time / Freebird
Did DT played Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Freebird"???
Anyone that saw one of the following shows could help me with it:
Mannheim: 03-11-98
Muenster: 03-14-98
Leipzig: 03-17-98
Parffit Jim Balsanelli
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:15:50 -0400
From: Nathan Rood <nrood@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3714
Message-ID: <352A4326.B9FEF951@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 19:07:34 -0600
> From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
> At 04:59 PM 4/6/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >Hey gang,
> >
> > Sorry about the NDTC, but could some nice guitarist on the list
> >email me privately with the URL for Marshall Amplifier's official
> >web-site? Thanks in advance.
>
> http://www.mesaboogie.com/
>
> Don't waste your time with Marshall, you'll probably end up buying a boogie
> someday anyway. MESA!!!!!
> From: eckie@asu.edu
> Subject: Re: attention guitarists
>
> On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Nathan Rood almost read like a Guitar Center Blowout
> Sale commercial:
>
> > Sorry about the NDTC, but could some nice guitarist on the list
> > email me privately with the URL for Marshall Amplifier's official
> > web-site? Thanks in advance.
>
> http://www.mesaboogie.com/
>
> Thank me later.
*sarcasm on*
Hmm, so I've already got an Ibanez RG, and I suppose I should just trade in my
current Marshall and buy a Mesa. Well screw developing my own signature tone, I'll
just copy off Petrucci!! Hey, I've already got a Dunlop wah also, so what were those
picks again!? And most importantly, what color!? *sarcasm off*
In all seriousness, I currently own a Marshall. So sue me, but I am quite fond of
the tone I am developing with the Ibanez played through the British amp. I've never
really played on a Mesa, so here's my question, what are the differences? I know that
Mesa has about 20 channels on every amp (ok, maybe that's an overshot); but other than
that, I'm pretty much oblivious to their tone. I know that Hammett (there's that word
again!) and Petrucci both use them also, and both seem to have some descent tone going
on. So can anyone explain or discuss this in a somewhat serious manner?
-Nate
-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nathan Rood / IRC and VP chat room alias: Horizen mailto:nrood@utk.edu \ Excite Message Board alias: Quietus or try:nrood@utkux.utcc.utk.edu / ICQ: 6170743 ===================================================================== "There are two ways to get through life easily; to believe everything, or to believe nothing. Both release the mind from thinking." Earl Hindman ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~------------------------------
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:21:19 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: celeb deaths Message-ID: <199804071519.IAA15551@odin.ax.com>
> Two recent music-related deaths I haven't yet seen anybody post about: > > - one of the fellows from Milli Vanilli (dunno which -- apparently it was a > pill and alcohol situation) > - Cozy Powell of all manner of bands (ELPowell, Jimmy Page's band, > Malmsteen I think... car accident) Also Tammy Wynette, famed country singer.
Dale R. Newberry drnewb@spiff.net
"As miserable as life is, I hold it pretty precious." -Henry Rollins
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:23:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Torres <lilmikey@creighton.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: chicago Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980407102102.23332A-100000@bluejay.creighton.edu>
hey everyone i have two questions
is anyone planning on going to to see DT in chicago from the omaha area?? have the tickets gone on sale yet?? if so where can i get them
thanks
mike torres
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:50:51 EDT From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT doing Lynyrd Skynyrd??? Message-ID: <be4ba200.352a4b5e@aol.com>
maybe they just did a short part of it, like the did a Nirvana song in the middle of Metropolis at Jaxx last time they were there, it was "Come as you are" and Mike sang, good singing Mike, but don't quit your day job =]
Rocky http://soft.simplenet.com/
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:04:14 PDT From: "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re:LTE reviews Message-ID: <19980407160415.26299.qmail@hotmail.com>
>What this guy decided to pick on basically carries no weight with >this >here listener. I noticed he didn't mention that they threw that puppy >together in LESS THAN A FUCKING WEEK! I guess when you have months >and >months to re-record and overdub, you can make something sound as >'jelled' as it can possibly be. And from where I sit, these guys are >JELLED! THAT comes from the musicianship! Universal Mind is >incredibly >jelled!!!
>I happen to think the ending of Universal Mind is great, they're >having >fun with it, sheesh. Someone needs to start reviewing the reviewers >:) >To take a song like that which grooves so damn hard, and to just >shrug >it off cuz he doesn't like honky tonk or whatever, is just pompous at >best... Too much ANALysis for me :)
Chill out.It was just his opinion.He did compliment the musicianship(incredible was the word he used).He also said that this album is great..He was just making a few observations that HE thought weren´t up to par with the rest of the album.
-Vilzu-
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:32:03 +1000 From: "Damien Harrison" <harro@netspace.net.au> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3714 Message-ID: <01bd6242$b2e41ea0$19fa0fd2@waldo-the-pc>
>> Sorry about the NDTC, but could some nice guitarist on the list >>email me privately with the URL for Marshall Amplifier's official >>web-site? Thanks in advance. > > http://www.mesaboogie.com/ > >Don't waste your time with Marshall, you'll probably end up buying a boogie >someday anyway. MESA!!!!! > > > _MESA/VINNIE_
Comparisons cannot be made IMHO between these two amps. Some people like the Marshall sound better than the Mesa/Boogie sound. I actually went head shopping today. I didn't like the Dual Rectifier. I much preferred the Slash sig. model Marshall. It's a matter of taste. Not which is better.
Harro.
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:48:01 EDT From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: celeb deaths Message-ID: <eef2ad1d.352a58c3@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-07 12:21:14 EDT, you write:
<< Also Tammy Wynette, famed country singer. >>
GEE DARN now aint that just a darn shame???
just kiddin, don't yell at me Rocky
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Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 19:25:33 +0200 From: Volodya <provibe@club-internet.fr> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: OPEN ALL NIGHT RECORDS Presents Message-ID: <33492E09.5B85AB3D@club-internet.fr>
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:27:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Jun-Dai Bates <jb523@bard.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Irving Plaza show Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.980407132545.34562A-100000@bard.edu>
I saw that somebody mentioned a show at Irving Plaza, NYC on 8 May. Can anybody verify this, and is Irving Plaza 21 and over (please say no)?
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:55:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3713 Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980407134544.76410B-100000@archa14.cc.uga.edu>
> >> Im not saying its off topic, Im saying I am tired of reading "Metallica > >> should go back to MoP and AJFA...They are a bunch of posers now." "No they > >> arent, I like them." We have been reading the same shit ever since Load > >> came out, and everyone who hasnt commented on it seems to think that their > >> view will be somehow different than anyone else's. Same post, different > >> name. Either you like them now, you dont, or you dont care. Im just > >> getting tired of reading about it. > >You could try: > >1) not reading it > > Since I am a die-hard Metallica fan I look forward to new information, so I > usually read most Metallica posts. Its just that Im getting disappointed > that noone has anything new to post about them and how they relate to DT. > Its all the same junk about how they sold out, etc...I am well aware that > it is my choice as to what I read, but I am (perhaps foolishly?) optimistic > that something new will pop up. > > >2) saying what you mean the first time > > I did say what I meant both times. Either you didnt read it carefully > before responding, you didnt interpret what I said the way I meant for it > to be interpreted, or I didnt convey my message clearly enough. I suspect > my second explanation... > > >> But I am only one person, so go ahead and post how much Lars sucks, or how > >> much you love Hammet's consistency in his solos over at least a 10 year > >> time span. I challange you to add something new into the Metallica vs. > >> Alternica debate, and welcome it, but for the love of god do not say > >> something that has been said 400 times before.. > > > >Hmm...if I remember correctly you didn't mention anything about > >"welcoming" new Metallica discussion, you practically said the guy should > >be neutered, tarred, and feathered for simply bringing them up in the > >first place (see #2 above)... > > Read it again. In the process of saying I was tired of reading the same > old shit about Metallica, I was NOT implying that I didnt want to see new > material posted. Im not sure where you got that. And I didnt object to > them being brought up, I objected to the same rehashed thread being brought > up. Two completely different things. > > You misunderstood the point of my post. Period.
Hmmmm....well, maybe it was someone else who made the original post to which I'm referring. Some guy posted something about Metallica and then someone basically said he should be force fed broken glass for mentioning them in here. That's the person I was referring to; if it wasn't you, I apologize. I assume it must not have been you, because I don't think anyone in here would be stupid enough to say, "I didn't object to them being brought up" after authoring the original post in question. So again, my apologies. I'll try to find that first post if I haven't deleted it; I'm curious now...
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:30:07 -0700 From: cherylcat@earthlink.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: SoCal Venues Message-ID: <352A70AF.10E2E78@earthlink.net>
Can't say I know anything about the Galaxy, but I highly recommend the House of Blues. DT played there last year, and every other time I've been there the place was rockin'! And as a gentle forewarning to the big drinkers......beware of what you think is the roof suddenly opening up.....it's quite the experience the first time you see it! :-)
rockercat
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 14:42:05 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Internet Radio Message-ID: <199804071842.OAA01592@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
> the D-Man post some very happening play lists, but I am assuming that is a > local radio station, not internet radio. Am I wrong?
Right now it is local radio in Williamsburg, VA. Very soon (but probably not by the end of the semester as I had hoped) we will be bitcasting. And don't worry, I will let everyone know when it happens. :)
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:44:40 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Internet Radio Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980407154029.6754A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Calvin 6S wrote:
> What I am also interested in is other internet radio programs that offer a > selection of prog, metal, or hard rock. Real radio sucks (and I am in > Southern California where their seems to be an assumption that it is some sort > of metal promise land. Not from what I have seen.). Okay, please take the > time to post to the jam any other live streaming audio internet sites. I see > the D-Man post some very happening play lists, but I am assuming that is a > local radio station, not internet radio. Am I wrong?
D-Man told us that his station will be streaming on the Internet soon. :-)
But here are other Real Audio sites:
www.kcuf.org (black metal, death metal, jazz and other weird things) www.thedj.com (almost anything you can think of -- including prog) www.liveconcerts.com (guess what)
There are many others, but I can't remember their address right now, but if you go do Yahoo, you'll certainly discover what you want. Also, when you install Real Audio, there are some predefined (lame) radio stations you might enjoy (who knows).
[]s, Roger...
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