YTSEJAM Digest 3718
Today's Topics:
1) Hollow Years video
by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
2) close venues (was Re: YTSEJAM digest 3708)
by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
3) Maki Mangini WWW Page
by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
4) New Steve Vai Project
by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3716
by Seth Hatlelid <srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu>
6) Re: Covers in the middle of Metropolis (Was Re: DT doing Lynyrd
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
7) Re: Covers in the middle of Metropolis (Was Re: DT doing Lynyrd
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
8) Marshall vs. Mesa
by someone@prognosis.com
9) DT summer tour
by "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
10) Detroit show / TWoM
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net>
11) 7 stringery
by Thrak75 <Thrak75@aol.com>
12) Cozy Powell
by AURACLE <AURACLE@aol.com>
13) St.Louis show
by Yvette Cooley <beanvet@accessus.net>
14) Re: thanks to Dream TheatRE
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
15) re: Empty Tremor
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
16) Re: Metal Years
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net>
17) re: Empty Tremor
by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
18) Re: Ages..
by Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com>
19) CD reviews.
by Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 18:47:32 -0500
From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hollow Years video
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980406184732.007aec80@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
last sunday I was watching Mtv (we get latin Mtv) and the VJ was talking
about Page and Plant and like nothing he said...well...next video is Hollow
years from Dream Theater, I just jumped from the coach to tape it but my
VCR wasnt carrying any video so I decided I could only watch...anyway, the
video is ok, but I though it was directed by portnoy and according to the
video is was directed by another person (dont remember his name)
I was very happy about this (Mtv playing Hollow Years ) and I told my
little cousin about that (he's 13 years old and Mtv is his favorite
channel...yuck!)
and he told me they play the video more less often....so i think this is
pretty interesting...
anyone else has latin Mtv?
let me know
--- Alan Estrada Adler ICQ #9267174 Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/2025 Shredder's Lair: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/7842/ "You've got your whole life to write your first album, and six months to do the next one." Monterrey, Mexico al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx------------------------------
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 19:13:24 -0500 From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: close venues (was Re: YTSEJAM digest 3708) Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980407191324.007af100@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! > >That means that the closest DT will have come from here for this tour is >Boston (5 hours) and Toronto (6 hours)! This so totally sucks! Oh >well, I guess I'll have to take a nice drive to NY to be able to see >them again... Anybody from Montreal interested? I got 3 more seats in >my car!
if those are the venues then the closest place to my city is 9 hours away...and I will go, I dont care... I went to Nuno bettencourt's concert in San antonio last year, and to G3 concert 2 years ago, both of them were cool the Nuno show was in a bar called Sneakers, the G3 tour was at the sunken gardens as DT is listed. --- Alan Estrada Adler ICQ #9267174 Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/2025 Shredder's Lair: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/7842/ "You've got your whole life to write your first album, and six months to do the next one." Monterrey, Mexico al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 19:18:25 -0500 From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Maki Mangini WWW Page Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980407191825.007afa20@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
I just got into Mike Mangini site, i dont have the URL right now but you can get it at http://www.kramerskorner.com/extreme.html check on the what's new section (that's an Extreme site, that's why it has Mike Mangini's site linked there) --- Alan Estrada Adler ICQ #9267174 Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/2025 Shredder's Lair: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/7842/ "You've got your whole life to write your first album, and six months to do the next one." Monterrey, Mexico al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 19:16:41 -0500 From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New Steve Vai Project Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980407191641.007afa20@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
Hi, I just wanted to let the jam know about the new Steve Vai project... it's the Greg Bissonnette Solo album, Paul Gilbert, Ty Trabor and some other people are there too... some more info is at Vai's site http://www.vai.com --- Alan Estrada Adler ICQ #9267174 Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/2025 Shredder's Lair: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/7842/ "You've got your whole life to write your first album, and six months to do the next one." Monterrey, Mexico al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:07:12 -0500 From: Seth Hatlelid <srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3716 Message-ID: <l03130301b150a7b9ba2f@[128.252.105.105]>
Hiya, Well, the St. Louis Gathering is gettting rather large. If we can all agree on a place, I'll make the reservations for a large table and all that jazz.
I've been asked how much the tickets for the show are, I'm not sure but I'll call Metrotix tomorrow and find out how much and when they go on sale.
List as of now:
St Louis DT Jammers: Seth Hatlelid (and girlfriend, and 3 other friends) <srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu> Dale R. Newberry <drnewb@spiff.net> Tom Cox (and girlfriend) Nugetman (and five or so friends) <lexine@rollanet.org>
Keep those names comming, Seth
Seth Hatlelid srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu
Check out my web page at http://artsci.wustl.edu/~srhatlel/index.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Why do today what you can put off until tomorrow?"
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:15:27 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Covers in the middle of Metropolis (Was Re: DT doing Lynyrd Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980408011252.10612A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Alan Estrada wrote:
> I also saw a video where they played U2's pop in the middle of Metropolis
They're doing lots of variations/covers in the middle of Metropolist:
* U2's Pop; * Rush's YYZ; * Nirvana's Come as You Are; * Metallica's One (ok, this is usually performed at the end).
[]s, Roger...
NP: "Damage, Inc." -- Master of Puppets (Good ol' thrash metal).
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:15:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> Subject: Re: Covers in the middle of Metropolis (Was Re: DT doing Lynyrd Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980407211506.17554C-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
You're just sending all of these to get on the MFP list, aren't you.
--Matt
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 23:28:06 +0000 From: someone@prognosis.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Marshall vs. Mesa Message-ID: <199804080424.XAA23861@wheat.farm.niu.edu>
Bottom line:
Anyone who tells you that Mesa blows Marshall away, is talking out of their ass. There's no way around that. Why do I say this? Because Marshall is a very inconsistent amp company, and some of their amps have legendary tone, while others suck. You can have any Marshall mod'ed (any TUBE Marshall) to get it to rip, big time. Mesa is great... I use all Mesa stuff right now... but I am very wary of people just saying that one kills the other... the tone Kiko gets on Angra's Holy Live isn't Mesa, and I LOVE it. Most of my favorite tones aren't Mesa. Mesa IS a pretty consistent amp company. Comparing to another consistent company, I would not have bought my TriAxis and 2:90... Bogner, IMO makes a better line of amps. But it's all taste. Don't let someone raving about one kind of amp stop you from checking out several.
Found another 7 string company (TimTone). I'm gonna have to compile a list.
Chris Ptacek someone@prognosis.com http://www.prognosis.com/madsman Go Home and Practice! "The Dude Abides."
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:32:34 -0600 From: "woot" <woot@crypted.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT summer tour Message-ID: <000501bd6370$868e4680$442746cf@sir.micron.net>
Ok I'm just a bit confused here, so I hope someone (Mike) can clear this up. There was a tentative date set for Salt Lake City on the preliminary leg of the tour, but it was cancelled. We were all ok with that because DT promised that for the main leg they'd be a lot more thorough and hit a lot more places. Here's what I don't understand: Not only is DT not coming within a 12 hour drive of SLC, but their "main" leg is turning out to be quite a bit shorter than the preliminary leg. I live in Idaho and will be driving to Los Angeles to see DT. This is fine with me, but I really don't understand why they'd skip the whole western half of the US other than Cali. I figured they'd at least hit Arizona for crying out loud. Doesn't Megadeth play like 15 shows there every month just because they know that Arizona loves metal? Sheesh. Sorry about this, but I still haven't seen DT live and it's killing me.
Get high on ether when there's no one in the house. Pretend it's the big one the moment you pass out. That's just rehearsal, but it's comforting somehow To practice dying now.
woot™
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 00:46:15 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Detroit show / TWoM Message-ID: <352B0117.C5EF63E3@ameritech.net>
Does anybody know if there's been any confirmation on the St. Andrews, Detroit show? Opening act? When to tix go on sale?
Thanks for the info in advance, - Joe DeAngelo
p.s. I got Savatage's "The Wake of Magellan" today. This album rocks...... GREAT stuff!
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:19:39 EDT From: Thrak75 <Thrak75@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: 7 stringery Message-ID: <e8fdec86.352b08ef@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/8/98 0:10:00, you wrote:
> >>Abyss Guitars -may be my next guitar company >> ( http://kalnet1.kalnet.com/~astokka/ )
they almost look like paul reed smith guitars......since i hate those guitars, these didn't turn me on as much as others....
a company that makes beautiful 7-strings acousto-electric guitars is a company called mortoro guitars.....they rock the house. anyone know of a webpage for this guy? he's an animal.
koba, wild.
************************************************************************ david y. kobayashi new york law school thrak75@aol.com
"better to save the mystery than surrender to the secret." -j. petrucci ************************************************************************
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:34:59 EDT From: AURACLE <AURACLE@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Cozy Powell Message-ID: <843abd40.352b0c85@aol.com>
Hi everyone...
The shocking news of Cozy Powell's untimely death at the age of 50 this past Sunday is greatly saddening to me. He has been one of my favorite drummers ever since I first heard him on Rainbow's masterful "Live on Stage" album, and since then I've admired his work with The Michael Schenker Group, Emerson, Lake & Powell, Black Sabbath and, most recently, Yngwie Malmsteen. I'll always remember him as the definitive power drummer, a player ofimmense strength and presence onstage. His double bass drum-heavy style was so unique and distinctive that you always knew it was him from the moment he started playing, no matter which band he happened to be with at the time. This singular "voice" is probably the most difficult thing for any musician to achieve on his or her instrument, and it's what I'll always remember most about him. Cozy spoke through his drums with one of the most authoritative and self-assured styles ever heard in the world of heavy rock, and that world is a much poorer place for his absence now and forever more.
Thank you, Cozy Powell, for all the wonderful music you helped bring to life (such as "Gates of Babylon," from Rainbow's classic "Long Live Rock and Roll" album, which Dream Theater used to play in concert back when they were still called Majesty; Mike Portnoy played every part *exactly* as Cozy did). You will be sorely missed. *sigh* :^(
-- Jeff (thankful for his Emerson, Lake & Powell 1986 and Rainbow 1977 concert videos)
"Cozy Powell -- Drums (Get on with it)" -- from the back cover of "Live on Stage"
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:07:27 -0500 From: Yvette Cooley <beanvet@accessus.net> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: St.Louis show Message-ID: <01BD628A.B34CB6C0@mtv-i-1-67.accessus.net>
Hey everybody possibly going to the St.Louis show. My name is James,and = live in Mt.Vernon,Il. I called the American Theater today and they said = that the American Theater was booked on the 15th of may for a bussiness = meeting. So I would imagine were all gonna have to wait and see what = kind of an update Mike gives us about the show. I'm gonna keep trying, = and if I hear anything I will pass it along. Can't wait to meet all of = you DT fans. I'll keep in touch.
James
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 22:47:49 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: thanks to Dream TheatRE Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980407224746.0068ad04@postoffice.syspac.com>
At 08:30 PM 4/7/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Well, got Savatage's The Wake of Magellan today, and although I have >not had a chance to listen to all of it, I saw in the liner notes, in >their "thanks to" section, they thank some band Dream TheatRE... man, >even they got it wrong...
heheh, yeah, and Derek Sherimean :)
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 08:01:11 -0700 From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: Empty Tremor Message-ID: <352B9137.58AA@kr.fh-niederrhein.de>
Stephanie Beaulieu wrote :
>Is this a prank or what???
>>Our CD is very difficult to find (expecially in USA) at the moment so >>to all prog friends we offer a FREE PROMO TAPE sent directly at >>home to everybody that will ask for it
>What do you all guys think about it?? Does that make sense??
What's your problem ?
Empty Tremor are very nice guys and they are making this great offer to you. What are you waiting for ?
Just hear "APOCOLOKYNTOSYS" and you will see how great it is. Maybe the best album since Images And Words ! Go and buy the album and make your own opinion.
NP : LTE - LTE <--- My favorite prog album from 98 :-)
Arash -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | PROG OR DIE - The Progressive Music Page | | | | DREAM THEATER - FATES WARNING - ROYAL HUNT - SHADOW GALLERY | | | | http://lionel.kr.fh-niederrhein.de/~ashouria/index.htm | | OR | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1748/ | | | | by Arash Ashouriha | | | | ashouria@kr.fh-niederrhein.de | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:09:24 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Metal Years Message-ID: <199804080608.XAA24723@odin.ax.com>
> It was called something like "The Metal Age" and > featured, among other things, an interview with Paul Stanley lying in bed > with about four scantily clad women, members of Poison and a few other > bands talking about the size of their genitals followed by a message from > quotemaster Dave Mustaine ("It's not the size of your pencil that matters; > it's how well you write with it."), Lemmy Kilmister humbly taking credit > for the term 'headbanger', Lizzy Borden covering Steppenwolf's "Born To Be > Wild", Alice Cooper doing an interview without blinking, and > gigantic-haired fans explaining what it meant to be a metalhead. Sounds like "Decline of the Western Civilization pt. 2: The Metal Years." I saw this a number of years ago and got a bit of a laugh out of some of it :).
Dale R. Newberry drnewb@spiff.net
"As miserable as life is, I hold it pretty precious." -Henry Rollins
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 01:16:03 -0500 From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: Empty Tremor Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980408011603.007cb1b0@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
the thing with milli vanilli is that they did playback because they werent into cheesy pop music, they were prog rockers, so now they are using some children to do what they did on the 80s, they took some pop boys and who are in fact singing are the guys of milli vanilli, so I guess there wont be empty tremor anymore....
At 11:13 PM 7/04/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Stephanie Beaulieu wrote : > >>Is this a prank or what??? > >>>Our CD is very difficult to find (expecially in USA) at the moment so >>>to all prog friends we offer a FREE PROMO TAPE sent directly at >>>home to everybody that will ask for it > >>What do you all guys think about it?? Does that make sense?? > >What's your problem ? > >Empty Tremor are very nice guys and they are making this great offer to you. >What are you waiting for ? > >Just hear "APOCOLOKYNTOSYS" and you will see how great it is. >Maybe the best album since Images And Words ! >Go and buy the album and make your own opinion. > > >NP : LTE - LTE <--- My favorite prog album from 98 :-) > >Arash > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >| PROG OR DIE - The Progressive Music Page | >| | >| DREAM THEATER - FATES WARNING - ROYAL HUNT - SHADOW GALLERY | >| | >| http://lionel.kr.fh-niederrhein.de/~ashouria/index.htm | >| OR | >| http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1748/ | >| | >| by Arash Ashouriha | >| | >| ashouria@kr.fh-niederrhein.de | > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --- Alan Estrada Adler ICQ #9267174 Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/2025 Shredder's Lair: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/7842/ "You've got your whole life to write your first album, and six months to do the next one." Monterrey, Mexico al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 02:12:19 -0400 From: Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Ages.. Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980408021219.007c7780@mindspring.com>
>While I do like 2 hour DT sets in small clubs (cause there is so much awsome >music and your so close to the band), but performing with DP and others will >allow them to get bigger venues (WHERE THERE IS NO AGE LIMIT!!!) I really >hate that! Thank God the last Palo Alto show was all ages!
Hehe... I've never seen so many "Fake ID Free" youngins (I'm ancient at 21) in one place at one time. :) Maybe it's different in the southeast, but at least 75% of the under 21 folks I know have a fake, college and high school. Maybe these DT fans need to go talk to some unsavory types (or just get fluent in Photoshop). :) Good luck with it...
__________________________________________________ Adam Pye alpineone(-at-)mindspring.com ICQ: 9382967 http://www.mindspring.com/~alpineone/tapelist.html ^ Above URL for bootlist w/ setlists __________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 00:42:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: CD reviews. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980408003716.8777D-100000@otter.mbay.net>
Friends, Got three CD's from cheap-cds.com within the last three days you might be interested in.
Jason Becker: Perpetual Burn At last, I have this disc! I had no idea just how emotional and multifacetted Becker is. It fucking sucks that he can't play anymore. His classical chops are just as impressive as his picking. To me, he's kind of a combination of Nuno Bettencourt, Steve Vai, and Paul Gilbert.
Mahavishnu Orchestra: Inner Mounting Flame My first Mahavishnu disc and all I can say is ah yeeeeeah! No wonder where Steve Morse got all his ideas. I was scared that Mclaughlin might have soundid like he did on Love, Devotion, and Surrender, but he sounds much better and just sweet. Very awesome stuff if you like the Dregs especially.
The Hellecasters: Escape from Holywood Perhaps my favorite disc of all. Sure, these guys don't have the picking, sweeping, or tapping chops of some people, but not even Steve Vai uses a whammy bar with such impressive skill. Not only that, but few guitarists can match the emotion and love for music which went into this disc. Kind of country/surf instrumentals with beautiful melodies and all clean. They kick serious ass! I think Michael Lee Firkins probably got a lot of ideas from these guys. A must get.
Hope you enjoyed these reviews and they open some doors. Be well. Matt B
============================================================================ ATTENTION! ATTENTION! ATTENTION! Guitarist in the Santa Cruz/Monterey area of California seeks innovative, experimental, technical, and fun-loving musicians to create works of art and share them with the public. Enquire if interested. mattb@mbay.net ================================================================================= "That is the truth. Not the hammer and sickle; not the stars and stripes; not the cross; not the sun; not gold; not yin and yang, but the smile... Because they died, we know we still live. Because a star explodes and a thousand worlds like ours die, we know this world is. That is the smile, that what might not be is." (John Fowles, The Magus)
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