YTSEJAM Digest 3745
Today's Topics:
1) Opeth
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
2) Websites for venues
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
3) Laser's Edge/LTE
by "Neal Brown" <nealus@hotmail.com>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3744
by Matthew Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu>
5) State of Grace
by "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
6) ATE
by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
7) Instrumental show
by "D. Frantz" <dfrantz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
8) Re: MBC/LE
by Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
9) Re: Metropolis being played weekly
by Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu>
10) fates hollywood show
by Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
11) Eck and Ernie
by eckie@asu.edu
12) Re: concert info/ DT IS COMING TO AZ!!!!!!!!
by eckie@asu.edu
13) Re: Metropolis being played weekly
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
14) Dallas TX Bronco Bowl Info
by Darren DeLoach <ddeloach@texoma.net>
15) All Nude... Tastefully Done!
by MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com>
16) Several items
by Michael Bahr <durnik@goodnet.com>
17) Is the gig at the Vic Confirmed?
by Chris Horvath <ellie@kwom.com>
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:06:03 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Opeth
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980414160350.22249B-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Nigel Bridgeman wrote:
> Miscellaneous comments:
>
> Enchant officially rock. And so do Jethro Tull. And so do Opeth.
Of course Opeth is cool. :-) Expect a mailing list in the future,
as soon as I figure out how to configure this damn ezmlm (the list
manager).
I don't know of any other death/black metal bands with mailing
lists, BTW. :-)
> Spiff
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:47:41 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Websites for venues Message-ID: <01BD67EA.04C576E0@LaForge.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
Something is teribbly wrong when you see the following topic :
> 13) Question for Mike. > by Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
And you ask yourself "Portnoy or Bahr ?". ;-)
Anyway, I've got a request for "Under A Cyber Moon"... I am looking for websites of venues DT will be playing at, so I can link to those sites from the list of tour dates. If you know an URL for a venue, please email it to me at itchy@dreamt.org so I can link to it.
Mark Bredius ____________________________________________________________ Dream Theater - Under A Cyber Moon E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org * http://www.prognosis.com/dream * Last updated: Today 1 0 0 % D T C G u a r a n t e e d B a h r - f r e e
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:27:55 PDT From: "Neal Brown" <nealus@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Laser's Edge/LTE Message-ID: <19980414192755.987.qmail@hotmail.com>
Somebody mentioned they'd waited 2 months for an order from Laser's Edge...yeah, I've had some long wait times from them too...then again, sometimes it gets here in a week. One time, I emailed Ken G. and asked about availability...he replied, saying all systems go...and when the order arrived, it was one CD short. On the upshot, there was a note saying they'd run out and a voucher for 16 bucks from LE. Oh well. Speaking of mail order sources....www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/4500--this is M&M Music's address...they've got some really good stuff, and it's never taken longer than a week to get an order...(No, this is not a paid advertisement *lol*)
One more comment on LTE...the dropoff towards the end of 3 Minute Warning is a really big blemish...I wouldn't say it ruins the track but it's noticeable...is there any reason they couldn't have mixed that part differently to cover the difference in sound? Another question--why is it divided up into five different tracks? I don't get the point of splitting it up like that...any comments?
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:44:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3744 Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980414153409.29082A-100000@archa8.cc.uga.edu>
> > Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:59:00 -0700 > From: "Odom, C. Brett" <cbodom@fedins.com> > To: YTSEJAM@ax.com > Message-ID: <Megw.2099780@persia.fabrik.com> > > > > > THIS IS MY FIRST TIME WRITING AGAIN SINCE I GRADUATED COLLEGE. I HAVE > RECEIVED THE LAST 7 OR 8 EDITIONS, AND HAD JUST ONE THING TO SAY. CAN > WE DROP THE WHOLE THING ABOUT MIKE BAHR? EVERY SINGLE THING THAT I > HAVE READ LATELY HAS BEEN COMPLETELY ABOUT MR. BAHR, WITH VERY LITTLE > DISCUSSION ABOUT DREAM THEATER OR OTHER BANDS. I THOUGHT THIS WAS A > DIGEST FOR DT JAMMERS.
Ok, here's the thing...Mike Bahr creates CDs of rare/live/whatever ->DREAM THEATER<- material. Many people on here buy/have bought/will buy those CDs. Many of those same people felt ripped off or whatnot; this was an issue that needed to be addressed. I agree that it went on awfully long, and I'm glad it's over, but it was an important issue, related indirectly to Dream Theater and directly to their fans. I for one am thankful to see people on here looking out for other fans by letting them know what's going on and addressing timely, important issues. And, no matter what you say, this was timely and important. Therefore, your caps-lock-happy post was much more of a worthless waste of space than the Bahr thread was.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Album Currently Playing: Symphony X--Twilight In Olympus ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Smith "When Dream and Day Unite, Images and Words ktulu@arches.uga.edu Awake A Change of Seasons Falling Into Infinity." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:43:16 -0600 From: "woot" <woot@crypted.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: State of Grace Message-ID: <000d01bd67dd$adc45340$a42746cf@sir.micron.net>
Ok this is bothering me so I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this. Run and grab your LTE cd and put it on track 5. Notice that from about 2:40 to 4:45 the song is very tense as they build and build and build. I love songs like this because just as you feel like you have to go break something the song hits a climax. In SoG though, the "climax" is just a little B&C riff that doesn't really relieve the tension very well. Later on JP restates the main theme which raps it up nicely, but there's a good 3 minutes between when you're liable to go throw the cat out the window. Anyone else have this problem?
Get high on ether when there's no one in the house. Pretend it's the big one the moment you pass out. That's just rehearsal, but it's comforting somehow To practice dying now.
woot™
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:50:12 -0500 (EST) From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ATE Message-ID: <01IVV4RH1IEU001PPG@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>
Date sent: 14-APR-1998 15:33:14
Well, finals and graduation draw near, I feel like I'm in a pressure cooker, and it takes three hours to fall asleep each night. I can barely eat from the stress, I have been living through a constant, 2 month anxiety attack, I don't know what the hell to do when I graduate because the simple fact of the matter is that I'm useless to society.
So I said to myself, "I think I'll make a rock album!"
It will be called the Anal Retention Experiment and will feature such tracks as:
Broomsticked Ass Fill It Out In Triplicate Or I'll Bitchslap Your Ass to Timbucktu The Funky Butt-Cheek Chafe-orama For God's Sake Kill Me, I Want To Die
And many more. I can't actually play any instruments(well, clarinet but that doesn't do much good here), so I got Queensryche to do all that stuff. They were just sitting around eating fruit roll-ups by the dumpster when I asked them and man, were they glad to get off their ass.
josh
............................................................ Check out Another Page at www.j51.com/~mrasiel. Hot Diggity!
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:50:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "D. Frantz" <dfrantz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Instrumental show Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.980414144704.33634C-100000@green.weeg.uiowa.edu>
If that show Mike tried to pull off in the UK happened-w/ instr. DT, Rudess/Morg, Platypus, and LTE--would that be the most sought after boot in history?? I'd sell my soul to the devil for it, for sure!
-Frantz-
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:52:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: MBC/LE Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980414145008.25571A-100000@ux10.cso.uiuc.edu>
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Trevor W. Hoit wrote: > Tell me about it. I just waited EIGHT weeks for an order from Laser's > Edge.
That's odd. It's never taken more than a week and a half from the date I mailed my check to get my CDs from the Laser's Edge. And if they didn't have a CD I ordered, I just got a credit slip.
Robert Taylor rctaylor@uiuc.edu http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~rctaylor
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:59:34 -0400 From: Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Metropolis being played weekly Message-ID: <3533C025.E5375264@ic3.ithaca.edu>
> song and he had absolutly no knowlege of it....can anyone tell me how The > T-Wolves can do this without permission of DT...don't get me wrong both the > band and the wolves are an awesome compliment to each other........
I would think that they would have to ask permission from the Record Company and not Dream Theater themselves. BTW, do the T-wolves still suck??? (I'm more of an NCAA fan than NBA myself.)
Chris -- Between the iron gates of fate, The seeds of time were sown, And watered by the deeds of those Who know and who are known; Knowledge is a deadly friend When no one sets the rules. The fate of all mankind I see Is in the hands of fools.
- King Crimson
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:59:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: fates hollywood show Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980414124834.14351A-100000@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu>
Kizer already posted the set list and everything so here are just a few of my thoughts. This show kicked some serious ass!!!!! I saw the APSoG show in the summer and this was even better because they played more songs, including some classics. The Ivory Gate of Dreams is 10 times heavier live than it is on the album. All the songs rocked. -there was more interaction with the crowd from Ray -Jim looked bored again, I guess that is just how he is -I was hoping for the Spanish guitar during Monument but he used his electric again. Even though there was another guitarist, and he had used it already during APOSG -Zonder kicks ass, enough said
I must say though, something is wrong with you people. Like last time, almost everybody just stands around. Only a handful of people were very loud and rocking out. The crowd was loud between songs and stuff but nobody gets into it during the songs. I did see more heads banging during Ivory though!!
my friends were driving by the Whiskey at around six and we saw Ray outside having a cigarette. I yelled out the window from across the street and gave him the metal sign. He gave me a nod which was very cool. we parked a block down I ran back to try and meet him but he was gone. Oh well.
-Why is it everytime you buy something from Guitar Center, you feel like you are getting ripped off? How much commission do those guys make? I need to be someone like Portnoy so I can have those guys kiss my ass.
laters Conrad
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:06:16 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Eck and Ernie Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.980414125735.27820B-100000@general2.asu.edu>
> I=B4ve been watching MTV for a while these days trying to catch the=20 > Hollowed Years video, but I haven=B4t seen it. > This morning, tired of watching Smash Mouth, Cranberries, and all that=20 > kind of crap, I came up with a not-so-original (let=B4s call it obvious)= =20 > idea.
Now does Ernie not have the coolest keyboard on the planet?! ' '=20 '...damn, it doesn't work for me....
> Why don=B4t we all in the jam (and I mean ALL OF US) e-mail to eMpTyV and= =20 > request the video? It won=B4t take more than 10 minutes to do it, and it= =20 > would surely be of a lot of help. So don=B4t be lazy and start e-mailing= =20 > right now.
Man, if somebody paid me $5 for every email I've sent to those fashion=20 sluts at mtv.com, I'd have the rack of my dreams. GUITAR rack of my=20 dreams, I mean. Whatever happened to that GREAT METAL TAKEOVER that was=20 so hyped and rearing to ram its head through MTV headquarters,=20 decapitating Kurt Loder in the climax of his orgy with the Spice Girls?
> Let=B4s help DT out! Let=B4s give them the airplay that REAL MUSICIANS=20 > need!!!
I can't do a damn thing about it 'cept buy their albums, and steal (they=20 don't sell DT POSTERS!!!) the single poster I've seen hanging up around=20 town here. I was hoping MTV would do their Real World/ Road Rules=20 interviews at Arizona State again this year so I could apply, just for=20 the sake of having a metalhead in pop tv, playing DT and Savatage all the= =20 time.
"Hey, where's Eckie?" *background music fires up* DUNT DUNT DUNT! DUNT DUNT DUNT! "Hey, you two are cleaning that damn mess up. That's MY bed!" "What's that noise?" "It's music." "Don't you listen to real music like Mariah Carey?" "No. DIE TRENDY POP CULTURE SLACK OFF!"
Okay, I can seee now why I wouldn't be hired as part of the cast....
> Ernesto
~Eckieo
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Get yer kicks on Route 666
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:10:18 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: concert info/ DT IS COMING TO AZ!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.980414130757.27820C-100000@general2.asu.edu>
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Ryan Roehrich added:
> Here it is guys, straight from the club!!!!!!!!! > > >From: "clubrio" <clubrio@doitnow.com> > > Yes Dream Theater is scheduled to play here at Club Rio on Wed. May > >20. Tickets will be put on sale through Dillards. I do not have all the > >info because we just rec'd the word the show has confirmed. Please check > >our web page from time to time or check the New Times or try > >eveningstar.com for more info as it becomes available.
YYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!! I'M _THERE_!
And Mikey P, I'll do ya better than just a banner...I'll try to get some T-shirts made, Eckie style!
Oh yeh, DT rules.
~Club Eckie
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:21:20 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Metropolis being played weekly Message-ID: <199804142021.QAA02206@wi.cs.wm.edu>
Chris "And you can call me at home" Calabrese wrote:
> I would think that they would have to ask permission from the Record > Company and not Dream Theater themselves. BTW, do the T-wolves still > suck??? (I'm more of an NCAA fan than NBA myself.)
It's entirely possible that neither the band nor the label has anything to do with it, and it's all in the hands of ASCAP or BMI (whichever DT is with). While investigating what we need to do to bitcast here at WCWM, I found out that we need separate bitcasting licenses from those two groups, and little else. They must make more money than anyone in the whole deal. -d
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough cmerlo@cs.wm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "The Spirit of Radio" Saturday 2:00pm-4:00pm 90.7 WCWM-FM http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo/tsor
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:23:15 -0500 From: Darren DeLoach <ddeloach@texoma.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dallas TX Bronco Bowl Info Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980414152315.006b325c@texoma.net>
To anyone in Texas who has been to the Bronco Bowl before: I have a five year old who's also a DT fan. I've taken him to outdoor rock concerts before, but I don't know anything about the Bronco Bowl (relatively recent transplant to Texas). Is this a club? Is it the sort of place suitable for a five year old to be in?
Appreciate any guidance you can offer, he'd love to go but I need to know what sort of place it is first before I tell him about the show...
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:07:29 EDT From: MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: All Nude... Tastefully Done! Message-ID: <fad4d949.3533d013@aol.com>
Hey Jammerz....
> Garnett: "For ESPN magazine, you shouldn't do a swimsuit issue..." > Derek: "No two-piecers...." > Garnett: "No bikinis..." > Derek: "No thongs..." > both: "...all nude." > Garnett: "Tastefully done...." > Derek: "But definately all-nude." > hehehe... why does that fit so well?
ROFLMAO!!! Thanks, man, that is awesome! Made my night! :-)
One other thing, does anyone out there have a great quality Metallica boot from the Master Of Puppets tour that they'd be willing to offer a copy of in a trade? (I know, I know.... the dreaded M word again... :-) ) They seem to be fairly hard to come by from this era. I would preferably like a complete show from intro to encore. Please e-mail me privately with your info. Thanks a lot!
- Matt T.
PS: It's Important.... To Be Tasteful.... Yeah! :-)
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:19:29 -0700 From: Michael Bahr <durnik@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Several items Message-ID: <3533D2C9.3462@goodnet.com>
Several things to note here...only the first note is about Prism, so don't delete me just yet. :)
1. Yes, I'll post an interim update shortly with the new opening-orders policy, that should clarify things.
2. About Rush "Mirrors". This boot has two printings that are known to exist and didn't come out until a few years after the Bones tour (until after the CP tour even, I think). It is the same show as Rush N Roulette '92 but it is clearly taken from a better master, something I don't think anyone expected. The show break is in a different place, and there are sound flaws on RNR92 that are not present on Mirrors. Mirrors is the boot of choice from the Bones tour... and if you're on a low budget, the single disc "Run Faster from the Fans" that Ryan Whitaker is offering is well worth having, as it's an abbreviated show with comparably excellent sound quality. So it's anyone's choice. Other than the Prism releases, there are only a few "awesome" Rush boots to get... the abovementioned two, Animated, St. Louis 1980*, A Right to Passage, Live from Electric Ladyland, The Three Magicians (this one's good because of content, not sound quality), Signals From London (again, content), and Wonders Of the World (Moose records). Of the St. Louis 1980 shows there are many pressings. The very best is the CDR Moose pressing "Taurus Pedals From Hell", and the best silvers pressing is "La Villa Strangiato" Seagull version, and the Flood first-pressing of same.
3. I have some extras of some original boot silvers to trade. Rather than get money for them what I really need to do is trade them for the few silvers I still need. I finally got original gapless masters for all my Rush boots, and now it's time to take care of things on the Dream Theater side.
Here are the ones I have to trade: Rush - Mirrors (2 disc) Rush - Signals From London (2 disc) Rush - Cygnus (1 disc) - out of print! Dream Theater - Scenes From a Memory (1 disc) - o.o.p! Dream Theater - Acoustic Dreams (1 disc) - o.o.p!
The ones I need originals of are The Dance of Eternity (2 disc Why Not? version with ACOS), A Kick Into a Dream, Lost in the Sky, Mind Control, and Uncovered. I already have originals of CIA '97, IM2, and so on and so forth.
4. Anyone who's interested in Star Trek collectibles, I have an auction going on at www.ebay.com in dolls/figures:actionfigures:general of a number of figs that had so nicely adorned my closet for years.
5. I think it's just awesome that Mike Portnoy wanted the band to play an instrumental show in Nottingham! That might have been one of the best shows ever (just for novelty value)!! I wish they had been able to play it and I had been there DAT in hand. Even if I never made a CD out of it, a tape like that would be a priceless keepsake. I just CAN NOT WAIT until Mike & co. come to town on May 20th... excitement is hitting a fever pitch among me and the guys. I'll be buying a ton of tickets to make sure the band gets a good showing. Everyone I even remotely know is going to go to this concert.
That's all for now. Take care everyone!
-- - Mike Bahr - Prism Records - d u r n i k @ g o o d n e t . c o m - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:21:02 +0100 From: Chris Horvath <ellie@kwom.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Is the gig at the Vic Confirmed? Message-ID: <35337ED0.4DD4@kwom.com>
Everyone happens to have their favorites. I happen to hold Dream Theater as my favorite band (duh...why else would I have subscribed to the 'Jam??)
I have been trying to get information about the Gig at the Vic Theater in Chicago on May 13th. I have called the Box office at the Vic, and they do not list any information about DT. I also called Ticketmaster, and they do not have a date for DT in Chicago.
I had thought that these organizations would have updated their records by now, considering that DT is going to gig there on the 13th of May (a month from now).
Any input would be GREATLY appreciated!
Thanks, and keep Jammin!
*************************************** I'd rather laugh with the sinners, Than cry with the saints... ***************************************
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