YTSEJAM Digest 3744
Today's Topics:
1) NOTTINGHAM EXPLANATION
by Portnoy420 <Portnoy420@aol.com>
2) Rush Boots
by Matt Stanich <mwstanic@mtu.edu>
3) Chick Corea Live
by Matt Stanich <mwstanic@mtu.edu>
4) Re: Bill Cobham/must...have...coffee/FANning the flames :)/psychosis
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
5) Metropolis being played weekly before a sold out Target Center
by dhove@minnesotamonthly.com (Derek Hove)
6) Ibanez Tribute CD
by Shawn Carroll <carrolls@psi.com>
7)
by "Odom, C. Brett" <cbodom@fedins.com>
8) NEW PROG BAND: META SECTION
by Wilson Layne Lowery <pnut@bu.edu>
9) Re: your mail
by Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
10) Hollowed Years video
by "Ernesto Lotitto" <ernestlot@hotmail.com>
11) Friendly message to Mr. Bahr(promise!)
by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
12) DT IN CINCI
by David Hatlee <dhatlee@dhpc.com>
13) Re: NOTTINGHAM EXPLANATION
by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
14) Savatage-weak link
by Pat Daugherty <PDaugher@bdm.com>
15) Rush Boots
by "Longshot" <longshot@pressroom.com>
16) Texas DT concerts
by Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3743
by robgaul@juno.com (rob w gaul)
18) concert info/ DT IS COMING TO AZ!!!!!!!!
by Ryan Roehrich <ryan@futureone.com>
19) Spock's Beard tonight!
by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
20) Boots
by Matt Stanich <mwstanic@mtu.edu>
21) Re: Metropolis being played weekly before a sold out Target Center
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:21:08 EDT
From: Portnoy420 <Portnoy420@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: NOTTINGHAM EXPLANATION
Message-ID: <8c3a0c4e.35338cf5@aol.com>
Hey all,
Before any rumours or incorrect speculation begins among our UK fans (and we
have been pleasantly surprised to see that there actually are some!!!!),
the reason tonight's show at Rock City in Nottingham has been cancelled is
because James woke up this morning unable to speak.
The doctor who saw him today said that he has gotten larengitis and can't do
tonight's show..
Now as if that wasn't a big enough bummer for our fans here who have waited 5
years for us to come back...the thing that has me REALLY bummed is that I
spent all morning arguing with the promotor & the venue to let us do an
instumental show without James. (Instrumental DT / Rudess Morgenstein / LTE /
Platypus)
I tried to convince him that I'm sure the fans would prefer to see that as
opposed to nothing (or maybe even more than DT!!) and to offer refunds to
those not interested.....but they refused to let us play!!!
(and you UK jammers wonder why we don't tour this country!)
Well, I just wanted to go on the record saying that I'm JUST as disappointed
as any of you that were planning on coming to the show tonight....
I'm writing this post from the hotel literally across the street from the club
and there's nothing I can do about it..... : (
We will leave tonight for France and hopefully James will be rested enough for
our last 2 shows on Thursday & Friday.....
As for you UK fans, we will be back to play the Forum in London on June
25th.....
Once again,
I'm sorry....
Mike Portnoy
PS - Please post this anywhere else that some of the UK fans might see it...
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:24:31 -0400
From: Matt Stanich <mwstanic@mtu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush Boots
Message-ID: <35338DBF.3348@mtu.edu>
The D-Man wrote
>I'll stop you right there. It is virtually impossible to find a great >RTB
>boot. (I would have once said that great CP boots are harder to come >by, but
>Critical Mass is worth the bucks.) I have (a copy of) one that's >pretty good
>(and I mean quality-wise, not track-listing-wise, cause Rush like never
>changes their set list :), but I would hesitate to call it anything >better
>than pretty good.
>The bottom line, of course, is listen before you buy. If the dealer >won't let
>you, then don't buy a damned thing from them ever again.
>Oh, and let us know, if you get it, if it's better than "pretty good."
>-d
Hey D-Man
You should be aware that there is this boot called "Mirrors/Russian
Roulette" out there from the RTB tour, it's relly great, much better
sound than critical mass, only drawback is geddy's voice was a bit off.
Also try Ryan's remix of the Run From The Fans show for a great RTB
show. Granted there are many horrible RTB boots out there, but there are
also some very good/great ones.
Matt Stanich
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:29:01 -0400
From: Matt Stanich <mwstanic@mtu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Chick Corea Live
Message-ID: <35338ECD.4089@mtu.edu>
APRIL 15 @ 6:30 PM PT - Chick Corea & Gary Burton
** Early Show: Chick Corea & Gary Burton/Late Show: Pat Metheny
On April 15, the free jazz innovation of pianist Chick Corea and
vibraphonist Gary Burton mingle with the free guitar wizardry of
the Pat Metheny Group in an eclectic, adventuresome, jazz-flavored
event on http://LiveConcerts.com.
Just thought I'd let all who expressed interest in Chick Corea during
the recent jazz thread know about this event.
Matt Stanich
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:44:02 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
To: "Harm's Way" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Bill Cobham/must...have...coffee/FANning the flames :)/psychosis
Message-ID: <35339252.6488@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
> A friend lent me a CD, "Spectrum" by a guy named Billy Cobham. I had no
> idea what to expect, but was pretty easily blown away by the end of it.
I caught Billy a bunch of years back (early 80's) when he had his own
group. Imagine a guy with biceps the size of the local shopping mall,
playing drums :) Just a tireless set of chops!
Check out some of Chick Corea's stuff, if you're into fusion. Billy's
featured on his stuff and some of Return To Forever.
Chris wrote:
> Mike's final response was:
>
> > So now I'm going to do what nobody on the Jam probably expects: I'm
> > going to make Prism better than it was in the early days.
>
> My hat is off to you. This is what I've been hoping to see for a long time.
> And I do truly hope that you succeed on this mission.
>
> Good luck, Mike. I, for one, shall be silenced for a while.
Warning to all you caffeine drinkers out there: Drink your first cup
BEFORE reading the jam!!!
I totally misread this. I thought Chris had replied to a Mike Portnoy
post, and that Mike was saying that he was going to make PRIMUS better
than it was in the early days.
:)
Graham pushed some buttons:
> Dream Theater fans are probably the nicest bunch of people on the planet. :-)
Probably? I've give you a 'probably'!!!
heh :)
Rockazoid:
> they [DT jammerettes] are much more level headed and believe it or not,
> 10000 times less psychotic!
You got something against 'strange?' strange can be fun :) maybe it was
just the company they kept.... j/k :)
Peace,
Jon
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:55:43 -0500 (CDT) From: dhove@minnesotamonthly.com (Derek Hove) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Metropolis being played weekly before a sold out Target Center Message-ID: <v01530501b158fa2204e9@[206.196.58.9]>
being from the Minneapolis Area....just to let all you Dream theater fans Know that when our professional basketball team the Minnesota Timberwolves are announcing the starting line ups they fuckin crank Metropolis-part I off Images and words......recently back last November I got to talk to derek before a sold out First Ave. show and told him that they play that song and he had absolutly no knowlege of it....can anyone tell me how The T-Wolves can do this without permission of DT...don't get me wrong both the band and the wolves are an awesome compliment to each other........D
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:00:58 -0400 From: Shawn Carroll <carrolls@psi.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ibanez Tribute CD Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980414130056.00a0c440@spool1.mail.herndon.psi.com>
Hi all,
I stumbled on to a pretty cool tribute to the Ibanez Universe CD that can be found at: http://www.jemsite.com/cd
A few of the players mention JP as an influence... The disc looks pretty cool too.
Shawn
PS. Thanks to Mike Bahr! I got my QRyche Visions cd the other day and this the best bootleg I have EVER heard as far as sound quality goes!!!
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:59:00 -0700 From: "Odom, C. Brett" <cbodom@fedins.com> To: YTSEJAM@ax.com Message-ID: <Megw.2099780@persia.fabrik.com>
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME WRITING AGAIN SINCE I GRADUATED COLLEGE. I HAVE RECEIVED THE LAST 7 OR 8 EDITIONS, AND HAD JUST ONE THING TO SAY. CAN WE DROP THE WHOLE THING ABOUT MIKE BAHR? EVERY SINGLE THING THAT I HAVE READ LATELY HAS BEEN COMPLETELY ABOUT MR. BAHR, WITH VERY LITTLE DISCUSSION ABOUT DREAM THEATER OR OTHER BANDS. I THOUGHT THIS WAS A DIGEST FOR DT JAMMERS. BY THE WAY, I DID SEE WHERE SOMEONE WROTE ABOUT JAXX OVER IN VIRGINIA. I JUST MOVED BACK TO INDIANA FROM PENNSYLVANIA. WHILE IN PA, I SAW FATES WARNING AT JAXX. I WAS UNABLE TO SEE DT THERE IN JANUARY, BUT I HEAR THEY HAD THE SAME LINEUP AS FATES. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT ONE OF THE BANDS THAT WAS WITH THEM, DIVINE REGAL? I HAD NEVER HEARD OF THEM, BUT THOUGHT THEY WERE INCREDIBLE. THEY WERE SOLD OUT OF THEIR CD THAT NIGHT, AND I CANNOT FIND IT ANYWHERE, OR ANYONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THEM.
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:23:06 -0400 From: Wilson Layne Lowery <pnut@bu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NEW PROG BAND: META SECTION Message-ID: <35339B7A.89913239@bu.edu>
Hi, I am the guitarist of a new progressive band out of Boston MA. We are called Meta Section. We have gotten quite a positive response from many Dream Theater fans. Check it out. Our music has been described as a mix between "DT" and "The Gathering". Go to our web site at http://members.xoom.com/METASECTION/meta.htm We are still in the recording process and we would love to get feedback on the music. Also, if you are a progressive musician in the area of Boston and are interested in getting involved, we need live musicians for live shows. contact us. Thanks
META SECTION http://members.xoom.com/METASECTION/meta.htm
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:21:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.980414121943.46772C-100000@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
only a death metal singer can get through all this shouting successfuly. hey, relax man....you will be heard anyway :)
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Odom, C. Brett wrote:
> > > > THIS IS MY FIRST TIME WRITING AGAIN SINCE I GRADUATED COLLEGE. I HAVE > RECEIVED THE LAST 7 OR 8 EDITIONS, AND HAD JUST ONE THING TO SAY. CAN > WE DROP THE WHOLE THING ABOUT MIKE BAHR? EVERY SINGLE THING THAT I > HAVE READ LATELY HAS BEEN COMPLETELY ABOUT MR. BAHR, WITH VERY LITTLE > DISCUSSION ABOUT DREAM THEATER OR OTHER BANDS. I THOUGHT THIS WAS A > DIGEST FOR DT JAMMERS. > > BY THE WAY, I DID SEE WHERE SOMEONE WROTE ABOUT JAXX OVER IN VIRGINIA. > I JUST MOVED BACK TO INDIANA FROM PENNSYLVANIA. WHILE IN PA, I SAW > FATES WARNING AT JAXX. I WAS UNABLE TO SEE DT THERE IN JANUARY, BUT I > HEAR THEY HAD THE SAME LINEUP AS FATES. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY > INFORMATION ABOUT ONE OF THE BANDS THAT WAS WITH THEM, DIVINE REGAL? > I HAD NEVER HEARD OF THEM, BUT THOUGHT THEY WERE INCREDIBLE. THEY > WERE SOLD OUT OF THEIR CD THAT NIGHT, AND I CANNOT FIND IT ANYWHERE, > OR ANYONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THEM. > >
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:26:14 PDT From: "Ernesto Lotitto" <ernestlot@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hollowed Years video Message-ID: <19980414172616.9331.qmail@hotmail.com>
Iīve been watching MTV for a while these days trying to catch the Hollowed Years video, but I havenīt seen it. This morning, tired of watching Smash Mouth, Cranberries, and all that kind of crap, I came up with a not-so-original (letīs call it obvious) idea. Why donīt we all in the jam (and I mean ALL OF US) e-mail to eMpTyV and request the video? It wonīt take more than 10 minutes to do it, and it would surely be of a lot of help. So donīt be lazy and start e-mailing right now.
Letīs help DT out! Letīs give them the airplay that REAL MUSICIANS need!!!
Ernesto
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:27:04 EDT From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Friendly message to Mr. Bahr(promise!) Message-ID: <126556e6.35339c69@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-13 19:03:49 EDT, Mr. Bahr wrote:
<< So now I'm going to do what nobody on the Jam probably expects: I'm going to make Prism better than it was in the early days. And I will not open orders on a single new title until I am caught up on all orders. Not a single one. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Zero. >>
Hey Mike,
How about an interim update on the page stating such. Just a suggestion. If your already at it, please disregard this message.
Kez
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:32:11 -0400 From: David Hatlee <dhatlee@dhpc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT IN CINCI Message-ID: <35339D9B.4EB6@dhpc.com>
I just bought my tickets for the May 11th gig at Annies in Cinci!
PLEASE, if ANYONE has good directions from Columbus to Annies in Cincinnati please email me: dhatlee@dhpc.com I will be eternally grateful!
I've never been to this place, anyone know what it's like? All I know is I'm ready for another show dammit! WOOOHOOO!
Dave (aka buster) http://www.dhpc.com/wdadu/ http://www.dhpc.com/ryche/
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:34:12 EDT From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: NOTTINGHAM EXPLANATION Message-ID: <64ff14e8.35339e16@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-04-14 13:26:52 EDT, Mr. Portnoy wrote:
<< Now as if that wasn't a big enough bummer for our fans here who have waited 5 years for us to come back...the thing that has me REALLY bummed is that I spent all morning arguing with the promotor & the venue to let us do an instumental show without James. (Instrumental DT / Rudess Morgenstein / LTE / Platypus) I tried to convince him that I'm sure the fans would prefer to see that as opposed to nothing (or maybe even more than DT!!) and to offer refunds to those not interested.....but they refused to let us play!!! (and you UK jammers wonder why we don't tour this country!) >>
This guy is the coolest, the best, the greatest............ever. Thank you Mr. Portnoy, for your efforts to give the fans a show. If only the promoter/venue could see the light.......... BTW, I know of a certain venue, right here close to me, that would take you up on that offer 8 days of the week. Damn fools.........
Thanks MP, Kez
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:40:35 -0400 From: Pat Daugherty <PDaugher@bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Savatage-weak link Message-ID: <35339F93.DBE06C7F@bdm.com>
Jon Oliva is definitely not the weak link in Savatage. Sure if you like Zack better, then John's vocal tracks may not be that pleasing, but Jon basically writes all of Savatage's songs, with barely any help from any other member of the band. Paul O'neil does cowrite and produces.
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:44:42 +0000 From: "Longshot" <longshot@pressroom.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Rush Boots Message-ID: <199804141801.LAA22406@odin.ax.com>
I never even heard of "Mirrors". The only two good ones that I knew of were "Over The Europe", an audience bootleg that was pretty clean except for the annoying clapping in the begining, and "Rush 'n Roulette 92". I remember a big argument over which was the better one. I have OTE and am very satisfied with it. "Mirrors" was never discussed, though. Did that come out later?
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:04:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Texas DT concerts Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.980414130239.33602B-100000@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
Ok, a lot of jammers have posted about buying tickets of supposedly "not confirmed dates". Whats up with this? Anybody in San Antonio have tickets already? are the tickets on sale yet?
Thanx Mauricio
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:59:58 -0400 From: robgaul@juno.com (rob w gaul) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3743 Message-ID: <19980414.140000.6414.0.ROBGAUL@juno.com>
>>And on that topic, I have a question of my own. Do any of you bassists >>here >>know how to play Primus' "Tommy The Cat"? If so, let me know. I'm >>just >>wondering what sort of techniques (and how many strings) you have to >>use to do >>that sick shit that Les does. I mean, it simply doesn't sound possible >>to do!
i got a bass tab of tommy the cat if u want it. private email me and ill let ya know what ones i got.. lots of rush and primus tabs... robgaul@juno.com
also wondering if i can post parody songs of rush or dt on here. friend of mines written a few that are pretty cool.. just dont know if length is a factor on here.
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:17:40 -0700 From: Ryan Roehrich <ryan@futureone.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: concert info/ DT IS COMING TO AZ!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980414111740.00881cf0@mail.futureone.com>
Here it is guys, straight from the club!!!!!!!!!
>From: "clubrio" <clubrio@doitnow.com> >To: <ryan@futureone.com> >Subject: concert info >Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:02:17 -0700 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 > > Yes Dream Theater is scheduled to play here at Club Rio on Wed. May >20. Tickets will be put on sale through Dillards. I do not have all the >info because we just rec'd the word the show has confirmed. Please check >our web page from time to time or check the New Times or try >eveningstar.com for more info as it becomes available.
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:20:08 -0700 From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net> To: YTSEJAM - The Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Spock's Beard tonight! Message-ID: <3533A8D8.48FA3A4B@pacbell.net>
Hey, if any of you Jammers are going to see Spock's Beard tonight at the Roxy... the CaliCrew will be meeting before the show at the Rainbow Bar & Grill.
Hope to see you there!! :o)
Lisa Marie jessie@dreamt.org ICQ uin # 1518578 http://www.dreamt.org/jessie -- THOUGHTS - The Spock's Beard Mailing List Homepage http://www.dreamt.org/spocksbeard/
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:04:14 -0400 From: Matt Stanich <mwstanic@mtu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Boots Message-ID: <3533B32E.2C1C@mtu.edu>
Has anyone ordered from this place, are they trust worthy??
Matt
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:04:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Metropolis being played weekly before a sold out Target Center Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980414120155.10943A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Derek Hove wrote:
<cool t-wolves thing snipped by a Blazers' fan hehehe...>
I can see it now... Garnett and Derek in that commercial:
Garnett: "For ESPN magazine, you shouldn't do a swimsuit issue..." Derek: "No two-piecers...." Garnett: "No bikinis..." Derek: "No thongs..." both: "...all nude." Garnett: "Tastefully done...." Derek: "But definately all-nude."
hehehe... why does that fit so well?
> > >
--Matt
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