YTSEJAM digest 3747

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Wed Apr 15 1998 - 00:16:05 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 3747

    Today's Topics:

      1) Mirrors, instrumentals, eMpTyV, and stuff, or something
     by Jeremy Hallum <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
      2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3746
     by Matt Evans <bmajik@abeln621a.unl.edu>
      3) Re: Eck and Ernie
     by Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com>
      4) Re: DT opening band (NMBC) :-)
     by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
      5) I apologize for that last post!
     by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
      6) UK Tour various: Manchester/Nottingham/Press
     by "Charlie Farrell" <charlie_farrell@email.msn.com>
      7) Re: la femme DT-ers
     by Anna <sionell@cyberramp.net>
      8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3741
     by Theresa Stutzman <astarte@webzone.net>
      9) Chance of a unique experience - gone forever!
     by "Charlie Farrell" <charlie_farrell@email.msn.com>
     10) A Sad Day?
     by Uroborosss <Uroborosss@aol.com>
     11) Re: Divine Regale
     by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
     12) Oh, know. It's the Master Blaster!
     by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
     13) DT Rarities
     by Xanadu Records <rsch1@idt.net>
     14) Symphony X/Surrounded
     by Matthew Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu>
     15) Re: Opeth
     by q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer)
     16) Tour shirts...
     by Shane Liebling <jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu>
     17) Philly.
     by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
     18) Re: Found a RUSH Boot, need help on quality (NDTC)
     by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>

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    Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:43:46 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Jeremy Hallum <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
    To: "Ytsejam: Where Dream and Flames Unite" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Mirrors, instrumentals, eMpTyV, and stuff, or something
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.980414180553.4980B-100000@bu-ast.bu.edu>

    RE: Mirrors

            Rush's Mirrors is like the second boot I ever bought, and it is a
    very good recording. Like one of the best I've heard. It's definitely
    an A- boot. So if you see it, buy it. It was one of the last boots I ever
    bought from an actual record store in Boston.

    >
    > ------------------------------

    > From: Michael Bahr <durnik@goodnet.com>
    > Subject: Several items

    > 5. I think it's just awesome that Mike Portnoy wanted the band to play
    > an instrumental show in Nottingham! That might have been one of the best
    > shows ever (just for novelty value)!! I wish they had been able to play
    > it and I had been there DAT in hand. Even if I never made a CD out of
    > it, a tape like that would be a priceless keepsake.
            
            I think that about sums up the thoughts of everyone reading the
    jam right now (or passing over this message for lack of content) feels
    exactly the same way about this particular show, man. I know I do.
    That would be an experience and a half.

    Anyone out there know when Savatage is coming to America for their full
    fledged American Leg? I wanna see em again!!!!! I'm figuring late this
    summer (July/August), but what do I know?

            Oh, and Eckie, I think they'd take you at MTV if you applied for
    Road Rules, or Real World, after all, they's just looking for weird
    psycho folks to create conflict anyway. :-) The killing would be good
    for ratings, right? They'd make a...um...killing off it!

                                            -jeremy

    Obmention: Sarah. :-P

    +=====================================================================+
     Every man, you see, is born beneath the sword Damocles,
      For young and old are all alive on that next beat on which we ride,
      And that beat is such a fragile thing, in both old men and youthful king,
      And that beat stands all alone, you see, between us and black eternity,
      And until that time, when death won't wait, let each man rage against
       his fate.-- Savatage _The Wake of Magellan_
    +=====================================================================+
      Jeremy Hallum Grad Student, Astronomy, Boston University
      jhallum@bu.edu:::jhallum@dreamt.org

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    Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:08:46 -0500 (CDT)
    From: Matt Evans <bmajik@abeln621a.unl.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3746
    Message-ID: <199804142308.SAA08467@goliath.unl.edu>

    I'm hoping to catch Dream Theater on May 11 in cincinatti..

    except.... where do i get the damn tickets ? ticketbastard didn't
    have much to say about Dream Theater on their website.. and as i've been a dt
    fan for years but never gotten to see them, i really want to catch this
    concert...

    please email me directly so i dont miss it while i carefully scour the next few
    jams :)

    ***********************************************************
    * Matt Evans *
    * University of Nebraska, Lincoln work: bmajik@ntr.net *
    * Computer Engineering Major school: mevans@cse.unl.edu *
    ***********************************************************

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    Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:15:00 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Eck and Ernie
    Message-ID: <19980414231500.19597.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com>

    >
    > Now does Ernie not have the coolest keyboard on the planet?! ' '=20
    > '...damn, it doesn't work for me....
    >

    Hehe, just wanted to clarify that that was another Ernesto, in case
    you hadnt noticed:)

    ~Ernie hasn't done this in a while
     

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    Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:23:36 -0600
    From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: DT opening band (NMBC) :-)
    Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980414162313.006e3c2c@postoffice.syspac.com>

    Paul wrote:
    >I was wondering if anyone has heard any rumors about possible opening
    >bands for DT's U.S. shows in May. I think that either Enchant or
    >Spock's Beard would be an awesome choice. Both of those bands seem
    >to be horribly under-exposed in the U.S., at least as far as touring
    >goes. Any other thoughts on bands you would like to see open for DT?

    Fates Warning, Savatage, Galactic Cowboys...any of the three would work :)

          Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince

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    Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 00:05:28 +0000
    From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
    To: "Harm's Way" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: I apologize for that last post!
    Message-ID: <3533F9C8.63DE@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>

    Damn! Sorry, I was trying to forward and selected a whole group of
    addresses, one of which is this list. Sorry! Actually, blame Nick G, it
    was his friend that sent it to me in the first place! I'll have to
    remember to snap his neck the next time I see him :)

    Sorry!

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    Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 00:59:14 -0000
    From: "Charlie Farrell" <charlie_farrell@email.msn.com>
    To: "Ytsejam list" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: UK Tour various: Manchester/Nottingham/Press
    Message-ID: <047690507000f48UPIMSSMTPUSR01@email.msn.com>

    1) Manchester Gig

    Following Choon-Kang's format

    Hall: The gig took place in the main hall of the student Union.
                  The stage is not huge and the capacity of the hall is
                  only around 1000. I asked the guys on the door for an
                  estimate of how many tickets had been sold, but they
                  didn't know. I'd guess that there were 8-900 people there.

    Sound: No the greatest acoustics. The band sound fine, but
                   James's vocals got a bit lost in the mix methinks.

    Light: Tiny stage, so only 1 row of lights and about 4 main
                  spots on either side of the stage.

    Crowd: Despite a small contingent who were more interested in
                   going back and forth to the bar, the crowd were very
                   receptive and attentive. The Images and Words material
                   received the best response.

         The setlist was entitled 'Manchester set 2' and was prepared in
         some word processor rather than being written out. It differs from
         Choon-Kang's setlist 2 in that they made a few omissions, namely
         Anna Lee (not missed), ACOS IV and New Millennium (Aaargghhh! - I
         really wanted to see John M on the stick again).

         It also listed 'Hollow Years (2nd kit)', but since there wasn't
         room to swing a cat onstage, the 2nd kit didn't get used.

         After the extract of 'Freebird' at the end of 'Take the Time',
         DT swung into a medley of covers, most of which sounded familiar
         but none of which I was able to scribble down at the time, so I'm
         grateful for Adrian for filling us in there.

         So it went:

         · ACOS I & II
         · Just Let Me Breathe
         · -------
         · Burning My Soul
         · Take The Time / Freebird
         · Assorted covers (YYZ, hot for Teacher etc.)
         · Hollow Years (No 2nd kit)
         · (piano solo - down stage)
         · Crack / Puppies
         · Lie
         · -------
         · Peruvian Skies
         · (guitar solo)
         · Pull Me Under
         · Ytse Jam (drum solo)
         · Trial Of Tears
         · -------
         · medley:
         · Metropolis
         - Nicky Lemons
         · Learning To Live
         · ACOS VII Sunset

         The crowd seemed a bit taken aback when Mike announced 'Nicky
         Lemons', but they applauded them afterwards. Personally I could
         have done without them.

         Rudess and Morgenstein were hanging round in the foyer after the
         gig to sign copies of their CDs (for which there were a few takers).

         No copies of LTE on sale though - bummer!

     2) Nottingham Gig (or absence of it)
         That's a real shame. Nottingham is one of the last few hotbeds of metal
          in the UK and I'm sure the guys would have had a great response from
          the crowd with or without James. Its a real shame that the venue
    wouldn't
          let them go ahead with the Instrumental gig - I'm sure it wouldn't
    have been
          completely vocal-free - Mike could have sung a few things and Derek
          could have helped out :-))

    3) Press Coverage.

        Hey Graham (Borland)! How many interviews did the guys do? How did our
        letter (or email) campaign go? The response I got to my email from Metal
        Hammer wasn't promising!

     Here's hoping that James's voice is back to its best for the gig in
    Bourges!

    Charlie

    URL: http://www.servemode.co.uk/Charlie

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    Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:36:19 -0500
    From: Anna <sionell@cyberramp.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: la femme DT-ers
    Message-ID: <35355282.23788978@cyberramp.net>

    > We may be few.....but we are mighty! LADY JAMMERS ROCK!!!!
    >
    > let's see besides Lisa who responded, there is Lisa Marie, Heather, Pam=
    , Erica, Sarah,
    > Irene, Cheryl, Babs, Jaime, Suz, and myself! Ladies..get loud and prou=
    d about the Jam!

    Awright... I'll come out of the shadows and say hello.
    Look, Jaime, my post for the year!

    > (please don't gang up on me ytsegirls.. i'm not sayin your all psycho)
    > (hmm maybe that aint such a bad idea) =3D=DE
    >
    Rocky... you're a pig. Of course I mean that in the nicest way :)

    Anna <---- heading back to lurk & waitin' for those Dallas tix to go on =
    sale....

    http://members.aol.com/sionell463/anna.htm

    "All of us get lost in the darkness
     Dreamers learn to steer by the stars"
                                      ~ The Pass ~ Neil Peart

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    Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 19:44:02 -0500
    From: Theresa Stutzman <astarte@webzone.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3741
    Message-ID: <353402D2.3EB6E050@webzone.net>

    Coldfire encouraged:

    > let's see besides Lisa who responded, there is Lisa Marie, Heather, Pam,
    > Erica, Sarah, Irene, Cheryl, Babs, Jaime, Suz, and myself! Ladies..get
    > loud and proud about the Jam!

    Definitely a minority, so I shall get loud for a moment and say here's one more lurking in
    the shadows.... satisfied to be entertained... and boy have the last couple years been
    entertaining. :)

    Hope to meet some of you folks in Dallas!

    --
    Theresa
    http://www.webzone.net/astarte
    

    "Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experiences of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition inspired and success achieved." ~Helen Keller

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    Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 02:00:28 -0000 From: "Charlie Farrell" <charlie_farrell@email.msn.com> To: "Ytsejam list" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Chance of a unique experience - gone forever! Message-ID: <069891808010f48UPIMSSMTPUSR01@email.msn.com>

    The venue for the Nottingham (UK) gig has its own website

    http://www.rock-city.co.uk/

    ... and its own message board. UK Jammers, let them know how you feel!

    Charlie

    URL: http://www.servemode.co.uk/Charlie

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    Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:22:54 EDT From: Uroborosss <Uroborosss@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: A Sad Day? Message-ID: <28ab39ba.35340bf0@aol.com>

    Close. It's a sad day when Mike Portnoy reads the jam more often than Mike Bahr and Ryan Skadberg COMBINED.

    Bafu Vai

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    Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:25:36 EDT From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Divine Regale Message-ID: <9bc31ae.35340c91@aol.com>

    In a message dated 98-04-14 14:13:16 EDT, you write:

    << THIS IS MY FIRST TIME WRITING AGAIN SINCE I GRADUATED COLLEGE. I HAVE >>

    We can hear you! Stop shouting.

    <<WHILE IN PA, I SAW FATES WARNING AT JAXX.>>

    But Jaxx is in Springfield, Va. :~) What a show, huh?

    <<BUT I HEAR THEY HAD THE SAME LINEUP AS FATES.>>

    What?? Huh??

    <<DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT ONE OF THE BANDS THAT WAS WITH THEM, DIVINE REGAL? I HAD NEVER HEARD OF THEM, BUT THOUGHT THEY WERE INCREDIBLE. THEY WERE SOLD OUT OF THEIR CD THAT NIGHT, AND I CANNOT FIND IT ANYWHERE, OR ANYONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THEM.>>

    Ask Mike Blevins right on this here Ytsejam thing. I believe he has played with them at Jaxx(well, not with them but you know what I meant). Mr. Division, can you help this man out?

    Good Luck, Kez

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    Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 19:31:20 -0600 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Oh, know. It's the Master Blaster! Message-ID: <01bd680e$31500300$360d84d0@korgx3>

    >How about Haji's, or Finneus Gauge, or BLUE? Those would be >cool as shit.

    Aw, c'mon. We don't need no stinking prog or shredders to open for DT. Let's put someone talented like Menudo or Rico Suave up on stage and laugh as they show up DT. :)

    Or the kids from Flip Side. I miss that cartoon... --KorgX3

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    Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:32:32 -0700 From: Xanadu Records <rsch1@idt.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT Rarities Message-ID: <35343860.3C14@idt.net>

    I realize this is Mike Bahr's domain, as far as Imports go, but I just hooked up with the mailing list and wanted to put some feelers out for a few DT releases from Xanadu Records: 1) A Sort Of Homecoming - 2CD-R set from New Haven, CT 10/25/97 2) Falling Into Obscurity - 1CD-R of outtakes/demos

    Most of my releases have been of Queensryche and Yes, but recently went into the DT arena as well. Just thought I'd make everyone aware. My homepage is at: http://idt.net/~rsch1/index.html

    For references on my service, feel free to ask around the Queensryche NG, almost all of them know who I am, and most have bought from me.

    Thanks, John DiBella President/Xanadu Records http://idt.net/~rsch1/index.html

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    Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:52:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Symphony X/Surrounded Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980414214813.44218B-100000@archa10.cc.uga.edu>

    Hey Jammers-- Just wondering if anybody else has noticed how the keyboard line at the beginning of SX's Through the Looking Glass sounds like a carbon copy of the beginning of Surrounded. If it's been brought up here before, forgive me.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Album Currently Playing: Megadeth--Peace Sells...But Who's Buying? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Smith "When Dream and Day Unite, Images and Words ktulu@arches.uga.edu Awake A Change of Seasons Falling Into Infinity." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:48:21 -0700 From: q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Opeth Message-ID: <35350EF3.2797@mail.connect.usq.edu.au>

    Roger wrote:

    >>Of course Opeth is cool. :-) Expect a mailing list in the future, >>as soon as I figure out how to configure this damn ezmlm (the list >>manager).

    Count me in!!

    Cheers

    Paul D.

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    Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:11:09 -0800 From: Shane Liebling <jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Tour shirts... Message-ID: <v04003a02b15b346cbbcc@[169.229.75.60]>

    So I went to the DT concert in November and shelled out $25 for my cool tour shirt. Then I on my way beck from winter break Amtrack decided to lose a ton of my shit, including my DT shirt. So now I look at the official site and see that both the shirt I bought and the shirt I really wanted (John Petrucci was wearing it backstage) are for sale (at MUCH cheaper prices). So here is my question (and if you could, please email me with your answers...) has anyone bought stuff from the website (Dream Theater International Fan Club (Ytse Jams, INC))? And if so, what is the turn around time on it? Thanks alot.

    -Shane

    ____________________________________________________________________________ Shane Liebling M "The hard part of Silicon Valley is jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu A the t-shirt - after that everything CAA Layman and Ytsejammer C is implementation." Member of a.m.m.o. since 1997 S - Guy Kawasaki -------------------------------- The Sites --------------------------------- The Short Me - http://www.hotwired.com/members/profile/demolitionman/ The Long Me - http://www.earthlink.net/~mariachi Deutsch Hall's Webpage - http://www.reshall.berkeley.edu/unit1/deutsch/ ---------------------------------- by Me ----------------------------------- "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." ------------------------------Douglas Adams---------------------------------

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    Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 23:33:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net> Subject: Philly. Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980414233137.12297B-100000@tornado.ocis.temple.edu>

    > REGARDING THE DT SHOW AT THE ELECTRIC FACTORY: > > I'm trying to get an early start with getting some people together before > and/or after the Dream Theater show at the Electric Factory in Philadelphia > on May 9. I'm tentatively planning to take a bus from Allentown down into > Philly. How I'm getting to the EF from the bus stop is still unknown. But > then, so is when the tickets go on sale, and whether or not I can even get > in. (Is the EF all-ages?? PLEASE, P*L*E*A*S*E*, P!L!E!A!S!E! tell me it > is. I'm 18. And I don't think I *look* quite 21 yet.)

    1: the electric factory IS all ages. there is a 21+ part upstairs.

    2: tickets are not on sale, as far as I know.

    > I've already received some e-mail regarding a pre-show mini-ytsecon, but > I'd like to get a list together of 'jammers who will be attending the show, > some suggestions as to where we might meet, etc. I'd also like to know if > anyone knows when tickets will be going on sale for this show (and about > any age restrictions, so maybe we can work on getting me a fake ID ;). > Private e-mail is welcome, as always.

    just email me with any questions. i'll definatly be there.

    - mike.

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    Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 23:56:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> Subject: Re: Found a RUSH Boot, need help on quality (NDTC) Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980414235613.12297D-100000@tornado.ocis.temple.edu>

    > > A week ago I saw a RUSH bootleg at a local music store. Judging by the > > track-listing, it's a Roll The Bones bootleg. The title of it escapes > > I'll stop you right there. It is virtually impossible to find a great RTB > boot. (I would have once said that great CP boots are harder to come by, but > Critical Mass is worth the bucks.) I have (a copy of) one that's pretty good > (and I mean quality-wise, not track-listing-wise, cause Rush like never > changes their set list :), but I would hesitate to call it anything better > than pretty good.

    ..well, not exactly. MIRRORS is an excellent soundboard from Oakland of that tour. Just wanted to let you know. :)

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